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Ireland abstained from vote to ban bee-harming pesticides

A ban on three pesticides, which some argue are threatening bees, will come into effect from December following a European Commission vote yesterday.

IT HAS EMERGED that Ireland was among four nations which abstained from a European Commission vote to ban bee-harming pesticides for two years from December this year.

The Commission agreed yesterday to impose the world’s first continent-wide ban on three pesticides which environmentalists argue are killing the bees that pollinate Europe’s crops although others dispute the evidence.

The vote in Brussels yesterday saw 15 European governments back a two year suspension of three pesticides – clothianidin, imidacloprid and thiametoxam which are collectively known as nenicotinoids (NNI) – being used on crops.

Ireland, Greece, Lithuania, and Finland were among the four nations to abstain with Britain among eight nations which voted against the ban.

Ireland had previously raised concerns about some of the proposed restrictions but had declined to say which way it would vote amid intensive lobbying from beekeeping groups in favour of the ban and chemical and farming groups opposed to it.

Bees account for 80 per cent of plant pollination by insects, which is vital to global food production. Without them, many crops would be unable to bear fruit or would have to be pollinated by hand.

Research by the European Food Safety Authority identified ‘high acute risks’ for bees from exposure to dust in several crops such as maize, cereals, and sunflower and to residue in pollen and nectar in crops like oilseed rape and sunflower and to guttation in maize.

Science disputed

Both Bayer and Sygenta, manufacturers of the pesticides, rejected the findings of studies which said their products are to blame for falling bee numbers saying the research is flawed.

Bayer CropScience’s Richard Breum said in a statement that it remained convinced the insecticides were “safe for bees if the products are applied according to instructions” and warned that the EU ban would be “a setback for technology, innovation and sustainability.”

Syngenta chief operating officer John Atkin said the proposed ban “is based on poor science and ignores a wealth of evidence from the field that these pesticides do not damage the health ofbees.

“Instead of banning these products, the Commission should now take the opportunity to address the real reasons for bee health decline: disease, viruses and loss of habitat and nutrition.”

Some farmers’ organisation have warned that the ban could results in €2.8 billion of losses to farmers and a further €2 billion to the EU economy due to a fall in seed production and rising feed costs due to a need to increase imports.

- additional reporting from AFP

More: Beekeepers “appalled” Govt against pesticide restriction proposal

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    Mute Nowa Huta
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    Dec 15th 2018, 6:40 AM

    Good. More competition, more choice = better savings for those who have a mortgage and those who are seeking one

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    Mute Brian Henoll
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    Dec 15th 2018, 12:23 PM

    @Nowa Huta: How about they open up the mortgage market so we can get mortgages from other EU countries (which offer rates around the 0.5% mark). Single market my a$$

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    Mute Patrick Nolan
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    Dec 15th 2018, 1:05 PM

    @Brian Henoll:
    What is stopping banks from other EU countries coming here?

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:05 AM

    There’s absolutely no reason why the post office should.go into high street banking while the high street owes us 60 billion. The credit union in my town tried to move into mainstreet banking (they literally moved to main street at the hight of the crises) and got caught for hundreds of thousands in loans while they were pretending to be bankers. The upshot is that you can’t get a small loan from them anymore. I repeat myself. The actual main street bankers owe us 60 billion. We need it back.

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    Mute Rory J Leonard
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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:34 AM

    @Louis Jacob:

    Many of those high street banks are struggling to stay afloat in an increasingly competitive environment, with their bloated cost base, and some with massive exposure still in UK market and uncertainties of Brexit, plus other disruptive challenges coming down the track, for example Cryptocurrency innovation.

    Our State still owns large chunks of equity in some HSBs which they’re hoping to sell off ASAP and recover some of that €60 bn you refer to.

    Expanding services offered by fine state-owned network of Post Offices, particularly mortgages, might offer only chance of recovery of some more over long-term.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:43 AM

    @Rory J Leonard: My local post office is stocked with O Driscolls and Mccarthys. Very few degrees there, maybe a few arts degrees. They should not be allowed near finances. Yera if you’re into that kind of thing you might be alright. Maybe the gardi could involed. The credit union in my town got involved in some dark forces.

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:52 AM

    @Louis Jacob: I hate to harp on but if you need a grand in my town now you go to a money lender who charges you 36%. All the while the eejits who work in the credit union walk around town in designer clothes

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:08 AM

    @Louis Jacob: the credit Union is a different kettle of fish. That was, in part, a stitch up by McCreavy and co. The banking sector did not like that CU held up so much of cash floating around in a friendly society set up. (They hate, for example,that in Quebec banks are sidelined CUs, as people their won’t use banks for day to day stuff). So they began a process of dragging them into their banking world. This included changing products on offer, including mortgages and commercial loans. Also dragging them into credit bureau rules. Anything to put a partition between CU and their local base. The upshot was CU money and the now increased CU debt became part of their rotten system.

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:20 AM

    @Greg Blake: So (and I’m really not being adversarial) what is the good in dragging the PO away from their base? People depend on them for a certain service. Aso sure as shot power corrupts.

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    Mute Fr. Fintan Stack
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    Dec 15th 2018, 11:13 AM

    @Louis Jacob: power certainly corrupts, as we have seen in the banks

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    Dec 15th 2018, 2:45 PM

    @Louis Jacob: watch the price of a stamp jump to 1.50 to shore up losses when bust hits

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    Mute Quentin Moriarty
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    Dec 15th 2018, 2:46 PM

    @Louis Jacob: watch the price of a stamp jump to 1.50 to shore up losses when bust hitsr

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    Mute Fr. Fintan Stack
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    Dec 15th 2018, 5:22 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: 1.50…not quite in the same league as the bank bail out.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:44 AM

    Can’t say I’ve any more faith in An Post management than I do in any other semi State.

    Irish borrowers won’t enjoy Continental interest rates until they have Continental style “Lose your house if you don’t pay your mortgage rules”

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:34 AM

    @Goban Saor: their screwing their staff pension rights their a filthy company a complete sham I’d have nothing to do with them sher their phone network is another complete scam if your unfortunate enough to sign up for that with hidden charges.

    Also I can send a parcel anywhere in Ireland with the local postal store up to a huge 30 kilos I think it is for €12 Euros and the post office would be about triple that probably even more.

    The postal store I’m on about actually have the tender for delivering the An Post mail through Ireland. It just goes to show how scammy they are the top boys must be milking it good ohh. How can the Postal Store make a profit on a 12 Euro parcel anywhere in Ireland and in An Post it would be triple the price or more work than one out?

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 15th 2018, 6:49 AM

    I’m gonna be honest here. My life has been destroyed ( and I mean destroyed) by creditors. It’s the the reason I can’t sleep. Remind me. What would be the benefit in this?

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:45 AM

    @Louis Jacob: Everybody is a slave when you owe money. The only thing you should borrow for is a home and no more than 15 year mortgage.

    Save for things you need. Don’t buy new cars unless you have it in cash or are genuinely loaded.

    Most people who have debt are in denial that they are broke. If you owe money folks you are broke.

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    Mute Greg Blake
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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:49 AM

    @Louis Jacob: don’t know what benefits are in it for you Louis, or for me, I won’t be signing into any mortgages in future. But, I think more choice can only help young couples going that way. Also if it helps to keep an post alive, that’s a good thing, with all this faceless banking taking hold.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:55 AM

    @Greg Blake: The post office is good as it is. Every time these guys try to move up they leave a vacute behind.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:00 AM

    @Louis Jacob: The post office is good as it is. Every time these guys try to move up they leave a vacume behind.

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    Mute Harry N
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    Dec 15th 2018, 11:24 PM

    @Niallers: you’re absolutely right, doesn’t matter what you earn, just spend less that what you earn and save some and you won’t have money worries. Most of the stuff people borrow for is stuff they should save up for instead – cars, furniture, tv’s, holidays, Christmas, we need to cop on and keep on to our hard-earned money instead of trying to keep up with the Jones.

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    Mute Niall
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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:45 AM

    This reads as a very naive article. So An Post is seeking a partner with whom it will enter the mortgage market and sets out its requirements of such a partner…. yet, what does An Post bring to the partnership:

    1)Mortgage lending experience – Nil
    2)Suitably experienced staff – unlikely
    3)Suitable Business Premises – No
    4)Funding capability – weak. If you had a billion would you lend it to a start up mortgage lender with no experience?!

    So An Post itself is anything but an attractive mortgage lending partner.

    I would point out that there are several mortgage operators open for business. It’s not easy to get a mortgage, nor should it be. Central Bank rules also constrain lenders. Based on our boom bust experienced heightened regulation is for the better.

    An Post? No thank you!

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    Mute Louis Jacob
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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:54 AM

    @Niall: Correct. It would be a friends only service

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    Mute Fr. Fintan Stack
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    Dec 15th 2018, 9:35 AM

    @Louis Jacob: One article in the Journal and you both have the business model sorted?

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    Mute Peter Hughes
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    Dec 15th 2018, 10:57 AM

    @Niall: You must work for a bank and are afraid of the completion, maybe they might actually offer proper interest rates and you will lose customers hand over fist lol.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 9:31 AM

    A sure way to know a recession is coming is when everyone wants a slice of the ponzi scheme.

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    Mute Quentin Moriarty
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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:08 AM

    You will witness the collapse of An Post who are now drunk on their profits and success .
    Crazy idea

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:22 AM

    @Quentin Moriarty: Amen. You can use the credit union as proof.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 9:32 AM

    @Louis Jacob: Or the banks as we have seen.

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    Mute Vinny
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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:22 AM

    They see opportunity to make money because we are at our peak again. It’ll be hard for them to get a steady foot on a sinking ship.

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