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Footage from the scene shows people running away from the building in the moments afterwards.
22 Mar 2016
8:27AM
Local television network RTBFreports witnesses spoke of seeing a number of injured in the departure hall. It is believed the explosions occurred near an American Airlines check-in desk.
22 Mar 2016
8:28AM
France Info reports Minister-President of the Brussels-Capital Region Rudi Vervoort also confirmed the explosion, but gave no information about the suspected cause. The Belgian government has now raised the country’s terror alert to its highest level.
22 Mar 2016
8:29AM
Sky News reporter Alex Rossi was in the airport at the time of the blasts. He said he could feel the building move.
“There was also dust and smoke as well.”
There is a great deal of confusion here. Certainly there are a number of very upset, as you might imagine, very frightened people.
22 Mar 2016
8:29AM
The Department of Foreign Affairs here will issue updates later this morning on whether any Irish travellers have been caught up in the incident.
An Irish student who was in Zaventem airport at the time of the blasts has said there was a stampede of people attempting to flee the area.
Luke Mac an Bháird, who is currently on an Erasmus in the city, said he was waiting at his gate when the explosions took place.
“I had headphones on and didn’t hear the explosion myself,” he told The Anton Savage Show on Today FM, describing how there was suddenly “a mass of people running to the bottom of their gates, people saying a second bomb was going to explode.”
He said officials moved the passengers to safety on the runway, although along the way “people started screaming, saying to run again, and there was a bit of a stampede”.
Mac an Bháird said they were now awaiting instructions from officials as to where they would be taken next.
Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland
Laura Hutton / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland
Irish MEP Luke Ming Flanagan has been in contact with us – he says the European Parliament is still open but with increased security. He had planned to fly home tomorrow butservice has been cancelled, he says.
A staff member of his was due in this morning but has been diverted to Liege Airport. Only certain committees were due to meet at the parliament this week, Flanagan says. He’s in the city for an economic committee meeting for the next two days.
22 Mar 2016
9:32AM
Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Charlie Flanagan TD expressed his shock at this morning’s explosions:
I am horrified by reports of multiple explosions in Brussels, Belgium and my thoughts are with those affected. The consular section of my department, in conjunction with our Embassy in Belgium, are working with the local authorities.
Anyone with concerns for family and friends can contact the consular division of the Department on +353 1 418 0200.
Any Irish citizens in Brussels or Belgium should exercise caution and closely follow the instructions of local authorities. We will be updating our guidance in consultation with the authorities as this situation unfolds.
Brussels is on lockdown at the moment. Bus and train services have been suspended until further notice, including Eurostar trains in and out of the city.
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UPDATE: No trains are currently running to or from Brussels Midi. Brussels customers are advised to postpone, and not come to station.
Ireland’s Department of Foreign Affairs has updated its travel advice for anyone due to head to Brussels in the coming days:
22 Mar 2016
10:13AM
The country’s Prime Minister has advised citizens in Brussels to avoid movement around the city. A crisis call centre has been established.
Local media are reporting that the border between France and Belgium has been closed.
22 Mar 2016
10:15AM
Irish student Luke Mac an Bháird, who spoke to Today FM earlier, has just been talking to Sean O’Rourke on RTÉ Radio 1.
Luke, who was in the airport at the time of the blasts, has said there was a stampede of people attempting to flee the area in the wake of the explosions.
He said buses are now arriving at the airport to take people away from the scene, but that passengers have been given no information on what’s happening.
He’s not sure whether the buses are taking people back into the city or to another location, he said.
Staff are giving out water to the lines of people waiting for the buses, Luke added.
Sam Boal / Photocall Ireland
Sam Boal / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland
Dublin MEP Brian Hayes has just been speaking with Sean O’Rourke.
He says he took the Metro into work at 8am and arrived inthe Parliament at 8.30am.
Politicians and staff in the institution were “really shocked” in the wake of the blasts he said.
They have been told to stay indoors by police “and that’s the story right across the EU institutions” Hayes added.
He was in parliament for an economic committee meeting at 9am, he said. That was suspended for a short time but then recommenced, as politicians were determined their work would continue, according to Hayes.
Local broadcasters report the country’s federal prosecutor confirmed the explosions at Brussels Airport were carried out by a suicide bomber.
22 Mar 2016
10:35AM
French foreign minister Bernard Cazeneuve made this statement on Sky News:
The European Union needs to deal together with this fighting and the trafficking of arms. The President (Hollande) is determined as is everyone else to defeat terrorism. All our police will deal with situation as professionally as possible and they will undertake their duties with the terror levels at the most elevated state.
France is to deploy an extra 1,600 police at its borders.
22 Mar 2016
10:36AM
Irishman Eoin Walsh, who has also been speaking with RTE’s Sean O’Rourke this morning, said he left the Maalbeek Metro station just minutes before this morning’s explosion.
He had just dropped his daughter at the creche before getting on the Metro system, and said he felt a “sense of unease” about getting on public transport.
Eoin said after he got back to the office “somebody came in and said there’d been another explosion at Maalbeek train station, which is about 500 metres from our office”.
His office building and the entire street are now on lockdown, and security and military are out on the streets, he added.
Authorities and employers have been telling people to “stay indoors,” he said.
The Taoiseach has said the government is not aware of any Irish citizens killed or injured in the explosions in Brussels but “one can’t be certain yet”:
Enda condemns attacks in Brussels, says “as far as we are aware, no Irish citizen involved, but one can’t be certain yet” #dail#Brussels
German airports, like those in France and the Netherlands, have heightened security at airports:
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22 Mar 2016
10:57AM
Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel has said: “What we feared has happened, we were hit by blind attacks”.
Speaking to reporters, he said there were “many dead, many seriously injured”.
He also said the city had been hit by two ‘blind, violent, cowardly’ attacks.
We feared a terror attack and it happened.
22 Mar 2016
10:59AM
Belgium security forces tightened security at nuclear plants across the country after deadly attacks in the capital city of Brussels, the Belga news agency said.
“Surveillance is stepped up with added security measures at nuclear plants,” the agency reported.
Vehicles are being checked with police and army on site, according to the agency.
Geert Vanden Wijngaert / AP
Geert Vanden Wijngaert / AP / AP
Belgian media are still saying 11 people have died and 35 others were injured at Brussels Airport, though there has been no official confirmation by police.
Transport operators have said a further 15 people were killed at the Metro station in Maalbeek.
A Belgian TV station has posted an appeal online asking people living near the airport to bring blankets, water, food and other supplies to a nearby gym being used as a makeshift shelter.
St Pierre hospital, which is treating the victims, is also asking for blood donations:
Brussels St Pierre hospital asking for blood donations #brusselsattack
French Prime Minister Francois Hollande has has said “the whole of Europe has been hit” today.
In a media conference, he urged the continent to take ”vital steps in the face of the seriousness of the threat”.
France, which was itself attacked in January and November last year, is fully engaged in that. France will implacably continue the fight against terrorism, both on the international level and at home.”
Just a reminder for anyone who has concerns about an Irish citizen in Brussels, here’s how you can get in touch with the Department of Foreign Affairs’ consular division:
The Irish President Michael D Higgins has expressed his sympathy to those in Belgium, saying he has conveyed those sympathies to Belgian King Philippe .
“These attacks strike at the fundamental right of all to live in peace,” he said.
22 Mar 2016
12:47PM
Belgium’s Foreign Minister Didier Reynders says authorities fear that suspects involved in the deadly attacks could still be at large.
“The inquiry is still ongoing… because we fear that people are still at large,” Reynders told RTBF television after a news briefing in the Belgian capital.
Justice Minister Frances Fitzgerald says the explosions are “another dreadful reminder of the savagery of terrorists who hold our values and democracy itself in deadly contempt”.
She says that there is “no specific information” about a threat to Ireland.
“As a country with the same values as our European partners, we are not immune. That threat level is, of course, kept under review and will continue to be particularly in the light of today’s terrible events. And we have to bear in mind too that an attack on our European neighbours is an attack on us all.
“The Government is determined that all necessary steps will continue to be taken to counteract this threat and will play its full part in doing so with its international partners.”
AFP reports that an army team has blown up a suspect package at Brussels airport.
The news agency reports that police found an unexploded suicide vest at the airport.
Belgium’s Crisis Centre said army explosives experts would neutralise a suspicious package at Zaventem airport. AFP reports that an explosion was heard shortly afterwards and smoke was seen coming up from the departures hall building.
22 Mar 2016
1:35PM
Pope Francis has slammed the ‘blind violence’ of the coordinated explosions in Brussels. He has offered prayers for the victims.
“Pope Francis entrusts to God’s mercy those killed, and shares through prayer the suffering of their relatives,” the Vatican’s Secretary of State Pietro Parolin said in a telegram to Jozef De Kesel, the archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels.
“The Holy Father once again condemns the blind violence which causes so much suffering and, imploring the gift of peace from God, invokes divine blessings on the bereaved families and the Belgian people,” the telegram said.
Francis expressed his “deepest sympathy to the injured and their families, and all those who contribute to relief”.
Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, Charlie Flanagan said the Dáil observed a minute’s silence in response to the horrific terrorist attack this morning.
I echo the words of the Taoiseach in saying that Ireland stands with the people of Belgium against terrorism.
He said he had briefed Cabinet this morning on the emerging situation and said ministers are working closely to deal with the fall-out from the heinous attack.
The Irish Embassy in Brussels is actively liaising with the Belgian authorities as they work to identify those who were affected by these attacks.
The Irish Ambassador to Belgium, Mr Eamonn Mac Aodha, is monitoring the situation on the ground and is in touch with the relevant authorities, including the Belgian National Emergency Centre, and is providing me with regular updates on the situation.
Ambassador Mac Aodha has informed me that the large number of Irish staff working at the Permanent Representation, the Embassy and the various State agencies, and their loved ones, are all accounted for.
22 Mar 2016
2:19PM
The Department of Foreign Affairs Consular Division has been responding to calls from the public since 7am this morning.
Minister Charlie Flanagan has reiterated the department’s advice that Irish citizens should exercise extreme caution if in Belgium. Further advice can be found on the department’s website.
Anyone concerned for the welfare of an Irish citizen in Brussels can contact the department at +353 1 418 0200.
US President Barack Obama has made a statement on the attacks in Brussels.
Speaking in Havana, Cuba, he said the thoughts and prayers of the American people were with those in Brussels today. He said they stand in solidarity with those in Belgium.
Obama said they will do whatever they can to bring to those responsible for the attacks to justice.
“The world must unite,” he said.
He said everyone must stand together regardless of nationality, race or faith.
We can and will defeat those who threaten the safety and security of those around the world.
22 Mar 2016
2:34PM
The Department of An Taoiseach has released a statement of behalf of the Irish government.
It addresses the issue of whether Irish people should be concerned about Ireland being a target for such attacks.
It states that while there is no specific information in relation to any threat to Ireland from international terrorism, Ireland cannot consider itself immune from the threat.
It remains the case that an attack here is assessed as possible but not likely.
The level of threat is kept under constant review by the gardaí.
For obvious security reasons, we could not go into the details of the operational responses. All the agencies here co-operate closely in respect of any threats that are identified.
The activities of a small number of people based here and whose behaviour may be of concern will continue to be monitored closely.
It adds that there is an “international problem” and gardaí co-operate very closely with its EU and other international security and intelligence counterparts on an ongoing basis in responding to these threats.
Witnesses of the Brussels airport attack describe hearing “a big bang,” smoke and shattered glass shortly after the bomb exploded. (Video: Associated Press)
Belgium’s neighbours France, Germany and the Netherlands reacted swiftly to the attacks in Brussels today.
A number of emergency security measures have been introduced, according to AFP:
France:
an additional 1,600 police are being deployed to border crossings, airports, ports and train stations, said Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve.
People in France will need tickets or ID cards to access public transport areas and they may be frisked
Major stations in Paris remained open but AFP correspondents saw many police patrolling in the city’s Gare du Nord, from where Eurostar operates trains to London and Brussels.
Germany:
Federal police said controls were being stepped up at the border with Belgium and at airports and stations.
The Netherlands:
There is strengthened surveillance at the border with Belgium and ordered extra patrols at national airports and train stations
Police patrols have been stepped up at Amsterdam’s Schiphol international airport, Rotterdam and Eindhoven.
London Gatwick, Frankfurt and Moscow airports has also raised security. Meanwhile across the Atlantic, police in New York said they were positioning counter-terrorism reinforcements to crowded areas and train stations “out of an abundance of caution”.
In Washington DC, canine sweeps and patrols and patrols were stepped up, also as a precaution.
Associated Press reports that the Islamic State group claimed responsibility for the attacks in Brussels, saying its extremists opened fire in the airport and “several of them” detonated suicide belts.
The posting in the group’s Amaq news agency said another suicide attacker detonated in the metro.
The posting claimed the attack was in response to Belgium’s support of the international coalition arrayed against it.
22 Mar 2016
3:50PM
People can start moving around Brussels once more after being told to stay in place for hours after the bombing attacks this morning.
Peter Mertens of the Belgian Crisis Centre says “the threat is still real and serious” of more attacks.
Many measures enforced this morning are to be eased at 4pm today.
Threat Level 4 will be maintained for the whole of Belgium
Citizens are no longer requested to stay inside
Public transportation will be restarted at 4 pm
Train stations will reopen at 4 pm with additional safety measures
Brussels Metro lines 2 and 6 will restart
Schools can get back to a normal situation
Air traffic at Brussels’ Zaventem airport will remains closed for the day.
AFP reports that Belgian authorities have published surveillance camera images (below) of three suspects in the attack on Brussels airport.
The grainy picture, which Belga news agency said was released by Belgian police at the request of the federal prosecutor, shows three men pushing trollies with suitcases past the check-in area.
While transport measured put in place this morning in the Belgian capital are set to be eased by 4pm, Brussels airport will remain closed until Wednesday, officials have said.
During the Charlie Hebdo attacks in January 2015 a number of cartoons circulated on social media in the immediate aftermath in an act of defiance against the attackers.
There has been a similar response to today’s attacks in Brussels.
One of the most widely shared images has come from Le Monde cartoonist Plantu:
The Twitter page for French music festival Esperanzah! has also changed its profile picture to a child statue peeing on the fuse of a bomb with the caption ‘Pis & Love’.
According to Google Maps, the distance between the Maalbeek Metro station and the the Berlaymont building – the headquarters of the European Commission – is just a four minute walk.
Raids are underway across Belgium, AFP are reporting.
Two of those involved in today’s attack were believed to have been suicide bombers while prosecutors have said they are looking for a third man in pictured in CCTV footage.
The man pictured in the hat is still believed to be at large, France 24 is reporting.
Abdeslam is suspected of being a key planner in the 13 November attacks in Paris that left 130 people dead.
There has been much speculation today that Abdeslam’s arrest may have hastened any potential terror attack that was planned for Brussels, leading to today’s tragedy.
Addressing those questions, a Begian prosecutor has said that it is “too early” to make links with the Paris attacks.
22 Mar 2016
6:23PM
During follow up searches in Brussels this evening, Belgian police have found an Islamic State flag and a nail bomb.
Speaking this evening, he said that the nation “must continue to respond firmly in a calm and dignified manner”.
22 Mar 2016
6:40PM
More details on that bomb find in Brussels. AFP reports that a federal prosecutor says chemicals were also found during the searches
“The searches that took place in the Schaerbeek (district) found an explosive device containing among other things nails,” the federal prosecutor said in a statement.
Investigators also discovered chemicals and a flag of the Islamic State.
Chancellor Angela Merkel has said that Germany will help to “find, arrest and punish” the perpetrators.
“The horror is as boundless as the determination to defeat terrorism,” Merkel said.
The murderers of Brussels are terrorists without any regard for the principles of humanity… The perpetrators are enemies of all values for which Europe stands today.
Belgian police are looking for this man. He was standing to the right of the two men who were spotted on CCTV in Brussels Airport before this morning’s blasts.
A unexploded explosive vest was found earlier today in Zaventum Airport in the hours after the attack.
ABC News reports that an X-ray taken of a patient’s chest at the Military Hospital in Neder-over-Heembeek revealed a large nail or screw puncturing a lung.
No details about the patient’s current condition have been made available. The photo was released by the European Pressphoto Agency.
The White House has released an image of President Obama receiving an update on today’s terrorist attack while in Havana, Cuba.
Official White House Photo by Pete Souza
Official White House Photo by Pete Souza
Later, Obama attended a baseball game in Cuba – a planned event to show unity between the two strained nations.
He defended the decision to no cancel his appearance, telling ESPN that it was always a challenge to carry on as normal after a terror attack.
You want to be respectful and understand the gravity of the situation… But the whole premise of terrorism is to try to disrupt people’s ordinary lives.
Mentioning Boston’s response to the marathon bombings, he said those moments were some of his proudest during his two-term office.
Zaventem Mayor Francis Vermeiren has said that the bombs which detonated at Brussels airport were hidden in the luggage the bombers wheeled on front of them.
Three suspects in an image released by police. SkyNews
SkyNews
The Paris attacks also demonstrated a step change in the level of capability on the part of the perpetrators. The individual attacks were unhurried and involved the deliberate and coordinated exploitation of firepower.
The intention was to generate a mass casualty incident among innocent civilians in an unprotected, unsecured and congregated setting.
In other words, ‘soft targets’ were selected.
22 Mar 2016
9:14PM
Belgium’s interior minister says authorities knew that some kind of extremist act was being prepared in Europe but that they were surprised by the scale of the attacks in Brussels.
Interior Minister Jan Jambon said that,
it was always possible that more attacks could happen but we never could have imagined something of this scale.
The CCTV picture released shows a bespectacled man with a goatee beard, wearing a white jacket and black hat, pushing a trolley with a large black bag.
Police say they are actively seeking him and believe he may have fled and run away.
A wider picture shows the man pictured alongside two other men who police have said are “very likely” to have committed a suicide attack at the airport.
Huge crowds are attending a vigil in Brussels in honour of the victims of today’s attacks.
Martin Meissner / AP/Press Association Images
Martin Meissner / AP/Press Association Images / AP/Press Association Images
22 Mar 2016
11:13PM
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‘Ahh sure the Paddies are great fellas, we have studied their history in detail and we think they are owed a break. Lets just bomb ALL the other white Christians in Europe but leave the Paddys alone.’
The planning permission includes accommodation for transient Muslim men. Why? It’s supposed to be a place of worship but the planning allows it to be a hostel too. So aimless, jobless, Muslim men can hang their hat and get on that Internet.
Marg murphy / Donald Hayes interviewed on Fox News on this terriorist attack…
Donald – can I go off point please ?
Marg – I have a thing about transient Muslim men ( Irish men are boring)
Interview terminated
Dude..we had it on this island only last week with a bomb killing a prison officer. Dont forget we have some very similar minded people living on this island still also
Please reference above where anyone blamed ALL Muslims Diarmuid. It did not happen, stop making up a problem that doesn’t exist.
Once again people right this very second are lying mangled on the streets of Brussels and your first concern is to make sure your views on bigots are known? Pretty f***ked up in my opinion.
I’ll repeat myself again Paul Dunne, there has been no major attacks against the ‘general public’! It’s very unfortunate what happened to that man I agree, but we have not had an undiscriminated attack on the public and I for one feel very grateful for that.
23 Islamic attacks in 22 countries
1018 people killed
2008 people injured in the last 30 days.
But..but muh IRA.
There are other countries in the world outside of Ireland and in those countries Islam is a murderous scourge and it won’t be long until this plague hits Ireland.
The level of whataboutery here is embarrassing .
I just want to say Islam is NOT a murderous scourge!!! Extremism is and it is down right ignorant to confuse the peaceful religion of Islam with the extremist, non religious terrorists that falsely do these acts in the name of Islam. Have we forgotten that in our recent history extremist and regretful actions took place is Catholic Ireland! This does not make the religion bad or the Islamic people, it makes the extremist murders bad. Please let’s not forget this.
I was wondering when the apologists would appear, thanks Paul for reminding me that there are people naive enough to believe that this isn’t Islam at work.
You should brush up on the Quran if you think that Islam is a peaceful religion. Here’s the words of Al Baghdadi who holds a PHd in Islamic Studies and happens to lead Daesh:
“Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. No-one should believe that the war that we are waging is the war of the Islamic State. It is the war of all Muslims, but the Islamic State is spearheading it. It is the war of Muslims against infidels.”
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is the leader of the Islamic militant organisation known as the Islamic State and located in western Iraq, Libya, northeast Nigeria, and Syria. And according to the time magazine is involved in murder and the sex trade. Ya he proclaims to be a follower of Islam but he’s an extremist. Thank you for helping me prove my I point.
Michael Johnson
Unfortunately I see loads of comments blaming all Muslims. I’m not saying everyone does but I saw enough comments that made me feel like I should say something.
Michael Johnson, Well noted regarding the Philippines. I had merely looked up the reference – looked at where the bombings occurred… Worse than I thought.
Jason culligan
Congrats on being able to find all the worst quotes, please read the first testament and come back to me. These books are thousands of years old and written for that time, nowadays religions use the morals not that actions from them. Thank you.
Also Jason the Quran was written during a time period of war. It was written to end a war and it states Muslims may not begin hostilities (2: 190). You quote out of context, funnily enough this behaviour of quoting out of context is exactly what lead extremists to use the Quran for evil.
I have logged in here to politely say you are an ignorant b@st@rd!
Now, let me compose myself. My wife is Filipino and I have understanding of the Filipino way of life for the last 14 years. Filipinos DID NOT take anyone’s jobs.
The majority of Filipinos in this country are in the caring/nursing profession (as is my wife). They then sometimes bring some of their family here (which is quite difficult and bureaucratic at times).
I have been to so many Filipino gatherings at Christmas, Birthday parties and the Filipino people are a wonderful people, very accommodating and friendly and they will put you first, even when in the Philippines.
Southern Philippines do have Muslim people and not all are violent. The Philippines is in fact predominantly 85%+ Roman Catholic.
Now let me remind you Mr. Smyth. I have seen people on the internet who have made dirty nasty comments about Filipino people like yours and they have lived in fear. They have had to close down their social media accounts, they have stayed in doors or even left their community for a while because their brain did not engage before their tongue.
I apologise to the rest of the forum for my outburst, but this comment incensed me with rage with me having so much understanding and immersion in the culture.
@Paul O’Connor. How can you say Islam a set of ideas created in the 7th Century is in no way violent or aggressive? Do you have a direct connection with an all-powerful being who will give you the correct context and interpretation for all Holy Books ?
How can you honestly say that a religious text is completely nonviolent? That’s ludicrous; the majority of Muslims do not condone public orientated violence, much like in most religions. However a percentage do engage in violent and punishing behaviour, see Egypt, Indonesia and Pakistan etc.
No complete reformation has occurred in Islam to suppress the more violent doctrines, in many places Secular learning has done wonders and it is perhaps why most Muslims do not take the text literally.
No one is saying all Muslims are one way or another, that’s bigotry at its most refined. However the set of 7th Century ideas voiced by an illiterate trader from the desert is easy to interpret any number of ways. Malawa and Bagdadi can take the same book and spin it in opposite directions. It doesn’t mean either has the correct version that Allah wanted to give. ( Gods are either very poor writers or intentionally vague or its just proof it’s a human construct)
Those that do violent and destructive actions regularly do so in the name of Islam and quote verse and context of Hadith and Quran to justify their actions.
The same as those from Christian, Hindu and Buddhists can take their holy books take them literally and go out and give life to their interpretation. Now you can disagree with their interpretation, but at the heart of this is their interpretation of religious conviction and it is just as valid as anyone else’s.
No one has a Monopoly on the words of God, thus their actions are in the name of their religious interpretations. The fundamentals of the faith are flawed when fundamentalists take the words on the page literally and it leads them to bomb people.
Furthermore when pointing at Catholic Ireland and the abuse of the Church, it is a representation of the flawed nature of the Catholic Religion. I.E No Condoms, No Abortions, suppression of women’s rights, Hatred of Homosexuals, contributions to the Rwandan Genocide, Contributions to a large percentage of Anti-Semitism before world war 2, concentration camps in Ireland, mass child rape etc
I could go on but I won’t, the fundamentals of all religions have always been flawed and a minority take the fundamentals seriously and act upon them in a pious manner.
I refuse to follow the dogmatic line that all religions are inherently peaceful; people have a predisposition based on evolutionary development to not destroy each other all the time, thus most people don’t regularly kill each other. Religion much like politics, nationalism etc. are all interpreted violently by many and given life by the bombs and bullets of fundamentalists.
Pt pat, Muhammad was a man. His wrong doings can’t be portrayed on a religion. The religion was started by God, through man and we all now how flawed mankind can be. I just think we shouldn’t blame all Islamic people for the actions of a few.
Paul Muhammad is the founder and prophet of that religion. Muslims are supposed to emulate him and he is seen as the perfect man by Muslims. The mental gymnastics you have to do to separate Muhammad from Islam is insane.
And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy. Try this Jason http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/holywar.html Why do you constantly proclaim war on ‘the enemy’. People who have not attacked you personally
@Diarmuid You seem to forget that one fifth of the worlds population, 7.125 billion is just over 1.4 billion. Thats IS a hell of a lot of lunatic nutjobs in anyone’s language.
@ A few of you. “They took our jobs!” is a Southpark reference. I’m merely pointing out the idiocy of a false dichotomy. Some apples are bad therfore all apples are bad is a mindless reactionary argument. Incredibly, a few of you argued against this form of argument when referwncing filipinos but with it when referencing muslims. Wow!
Bingo, merely referencing how the historical documents christians refer to is the same as the muslin documents. If theirs and ours say the same but we don’t, how does that mean that it is responsible for their attacks. Also it depends if you want to view american and british attacks on muslim countries for the last 60+ years as inspired by religion. If they aren’t then its a fine coincidence.
‘Diarmuid’ fair play to the residents of the Clandeboyne est in Bangor who despite the death threats removed your parading cultural ambassadors flags(uvf) that surrounded their kids playground.
Lets hope the British government closes, acts on the named community organisation a front for the uvf in the Bangor area highlighted by the Spotlight programme that siphons off money for the uvf.
It’s time for state funding of the uvf/uda to cease and their threat of wide scale violence faced down.
Stop being thick Paul , unless you have being living under a rock you must know the Islamic attitude towards women , gays , non believers etc , honour killings , forced marriages the list is endless , why not spend a little time and remind us of the contributions made by the Islamic world to the advancement of mankind in say the last 500 years
Quotation from hijra2ireland site: “Looking for ways to join your brothers in Ireland? There are many methods in which you can enter the country ranging from obtaining a work permit to registering as an asylum seeker. Whichever method you choose, know that the Muslim community will assist you in your efforts.
In addition there are also other organizations that work for the benefit of immigrants. To make things even better, the Irish government is also very supportive, and you can receive much needed aid from official institutions as well.
Make HIjra, Join your brothers. “
Paul while you are at it can you give us a few examples of what the Muslim world has contributed to the advancement of mankind in the past 500 years for example
@Gusty Apologies for offending you, genuinely. Please read my previous response. The rage you felt is how I feel reading many of the negative comments towards muslims as a whole. I used filipinos as an example to highlight the idiocy of those sentiments. I appreciate that I can’t have expected you to get that. Again, I apologise.
I don’t feel any safer here than when I was in Brussels a few weeks ago. Also – in a last few days Dublin police looks on alert for some reason. Maybe Paddys day, maybe more.
Peter, Terrorism in the Philippines has been a Muslim issue!!! Most of the Filippino’s living here are Christian. Also, I’m not surprised your spending your time talking about Filippino’s and Southpark – it’s a very handy way of not dealing with the actual issue!
Just for the sake of balance, the bible encourages Christians to kill non-Christians too.
Deuteronomy 17
“If there be found among you… that hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them … bring forth that man or that woman … and stone them with stones, till they die.
First testament? Whats that? Old testament your talking about. Muslims curse jews and christians in their prayers. You dont understand your own background, so domt even try to understand islam. Its getting to the stage where a violent far right will rise up in europe. the quaran is about 1300 years old, not thousands. parts of the bible are very old, maybe thousands of years as you say.
Islam has not changed, thats the problem. Islamic immigration must stop in europe NOW! As in today, and repatriation of as many muslims as possible. We are on the eve of war. And its the fault of people like you.
There will be bombings and shootings in ireland soon. Isis are here.
Everyone has, and is entitled to their opinion. That comment hit harder with me as my wife was beside me as I read it to her. All I could see was an atrocity in Belgium, then “export Filipinos for taking our jobs” – 2 unrelated things.
My thoughts are with those affected by today’s atrocities.
Thanks merkel… one of the guys who was killed in paris came in a group of 90across tye balkans. Are u listening now frances Fitzgerald? How many are coming our way again?
Funny how the mohammad did all the same extremism too then and how islamic texts tell them to do it
funny how islam conquered everywhere it went by the sword, with several attempts to conquer Europe and how the koran directs them to do so, funny how real muslims, (the extremists) find a nice haven in the sea of so-called moderate islam.
There is no excuse to ruin our western countries by allowing immigration, they have their own countries, no need for us to lose ours and look like them
Not too unrelated things, mass-immigration is destructive to the natives of any country, and yes opening up Irish jobs wholesale to the world means Irish people no longer have at least a better access to the resources of their own country, that is what taking jobs means. So yes they do take jobs, simply a fact.
@paul Oconnor . Yes he is involved in murder and the sex trade. The murder you speak of he would call executing infidels, apostates, adulterers etc and the sex trade you speak of, he would call spoils of war. It’s all in their holy book. Very Islamic. The number of verses in the Koran that involve sex and death (involving the minutiae) is jaw dropping.
Don’t forget now good people to self-flaggellate for any sinful thoughts of securing your country and people with the idea of “borders ”
-this is anti-multicult sinful thoughts, you must pray to multicult god, keep calling ourselves racist and bigots, until we too receive our rightful reward of gang-rapists, Cologne rape mobs, sharia, more enrichment and diversidee bombs.
Amen.
Unlike you mired in fantasy I don’t believe what I like, I tell you the facts, the reality, something being borne out by what we have seen unfold in Europe for the last 30yrs and around the world since the dawn of islam, you obviously dont know the history of islam
Paul O’Connor, “Extremists are the cause” – yes – extremists who follow Islam! They committed this atrocity because they follow an extreme ideology within Islam. What about IS fighters as “refugees” – you want to give them a hug too!?
“We are told that ISIS, whose acronym invokes a pagan goddess, has just conducted a big human sacrifice in Brussels on a major satanic holiday. The date 3/22 (322) is not only the emblem of America’s leading CIA Freemasonic elite group, Skull and Bones. 3/22 is also the culmination of the three-day Satanic Feast of Pelusia, consisting of – get this – “the invocation of Isis.” http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/03/22/322/
They committed these atrocities because they miss quoted and miss used the Quran. Your reasoning means someone could do something horrendous and then just say they did it in the name, of let’s say Christianity. It does not make them Christian and does not make Christianity bad. I think any member of Isis should be dealt with in the most extreme way possible but I don’t think we should stop helping the innocent refugees!
@paul O’Connor……….. Here’s a bit of Al-Baghdadi’s BIO translated from the Arabic
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Sheikh Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi is a former teacher and educator and a well known preacher, and a graduate from the Islamic University in Baghdad and he studied in it the academic levels (Bachelor, Masters and PhD) he was known as a preacher and erudite in Islamic culture, and Sharia knowledge and Fiqh, and an expert in the sciences of history and noble lineage, and he has a wide relations and clear impact on the members of his ——-etc.—” https://pietervanostaeyen.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-a-short-biography-of-the-isis-sheikh/
@ Patrick J O’Connor
Two things:
1. You can write your own bio.
2. As I said before extremists base their beliefs on religion, yes he may have a doctorate but he is the leader of Isis which is internationally known as an “Extremist group”.
I hate terrorists and extremists and I hate what happened today but I think it is very narrow minded to condem all Islamic people because of the actions of a small minority.
‘Three phone calls were made warning of a bomb in Omagh, using the same codeword that had been used in the Real IRA’s bomb attack in Banbridge two weeks earlier.’ And ‘Telephoned warnings had been sent about 40 minutes beforehand, but were inaccurate and police had inadvertently moved people towards the bomb.’
@Paul O’Connor……….A small minority backed up a substantial number globally and funded by ZAKAT/Islamic Charity that all Muslims pay into by Sharia Law and a substantial portion 1/8th. that goes to Jihad. Muslims are very well aware where their money goes to and I haven’t heard and objections by any of them.
This makes Muslims complicit in Global terror waged against non-Muslims.
For the actual numbers of Jihad backers see below video by Canadian Muslim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPvnFDDQHk
People seriously comparing an Irish group made up of people of Irish blood, who fought for our own territory of Ireland, and comparing that with foreign people and descendants of foreigners who wish to change the native Europeans way of life. No comparison
Not according to the latest details. Apparently members of the European Parliament were due to fly in this morning so it seems like it was a targeted attack on parliamentary members.
So once again Merkels’s decisions have proved catastrophic, if what you say is true Jason. Fist of all, she welcomes 800000 refugees to Germany without making any provision for their passage. Then she decides that they would all be rounded up and forcibly sent to Turkey starting from yesterday – again no mechanisms were put in place to do this. There are people in Brussels who are there to make decisions on our behalf. They are utterly incapable of dealing with any kind of crisis situation. Did they really think the deal with Erdogan was going to help anything. It was bound to inflame tensions. Whatever you think of refugees/migrants, you can’t initially invite people esp without any vetting, and then when they show up, decide that you’ve changed your mind and then herd them off to a place they never wanted to be in
Very unlikely that they could have planned something like this so quickly. The speculation is that it’s a remnant of the plans of suspected attacked some weeks ago when the city was locked down.
Why? How do you know any of those refugees who traveled to Germany were involved in this?
The Belgian police and security services don’t yet know who was responsible, but the Journal’s loudmouth xenophobes are better informed – it was the brown people!
@Marg. You can’t say to people, yes, come in and then decide that you have changed your mind when people arrive and then force them to go back to a place they don’t want to be without it causing absolute chaos.
The refugee crisis has been so badly mishandled by our EU masters since the beginning. In fact, you could even say it has been caused by them. Instead of firstly implementing a plan which would allow genuine refugees safe passage into Europe, of putting mechanisms in place, Merkel encouraged people to get into rubber dinghies, to put their lives at risk to get onto any bit of Europe as quickly as possible in huge numbers and has now decided that it would be better to do a deal with Erdogan and start deporting people, again without having a mechanism to do this in place. It’s giving even more fuel to the extremists. Headless chickens playing jeopardy with the lives of Europeans and those fleeing conflict
Maybe not Alan but they will be the future breeders of Islamic nut jobs, the ones to be most worried about are the product of multiculturalism 2nd and 3rd generation Muslims showing their gratitude to the countries who gave their parents and grandparents a better standard of living!.
@Alan. If that was to me, I must have misrepresented myself. I don’t think it was refugees who did this. In fact, the vast majority of attacks have been carried out by radicalised Europeans, some of whom have converted to Islam. I think it was inflamed by Merkel’s complete mishandling of the entire situation. If you invite refugees, you need to provide safe passage. Merkel encouraged people to risk their lives to get to Europe and then abandoned them. Now, she has decided to basically sell people stuck on Greek islands to Turkey. This is what I mean by Merkel’s decisions creating chaos.
You only need a small percentage Alan, many of the Muslims in France fled war torn Algeria and then bred Islamic nut jobs, their religion is poisonous when taken literally!.
Which has nothing to do with Merkel or Syrian refugees in Germany, William – which was the link here.
We’ll likely find that those who carried out this were Belgian citizens. Yes, they will probably have has some links to another country in their past (don’t we all) but the idea what we’re branding Syrian refugees are terrorists already is complete nonsense.
What we need to do is ensure that those who have come here to escape the hateful elements of Islam (a religion which isn’t along in having a bad side, Christianity is just as poisonous when taken literally ) don’t succumb to it now they they’re here. Branding them all terrorists or potential terrorists, making them feel unwanted, treating them as “sub-humans” is only going to increase the chances of them feeling marginalised and that will only aid radicalisation.
Ann Marie the EU has been in chaos for years now, from the Euro to the immigrant crisis decision making and policy has been in tatters, those running it are an unelected elite along with the German parliament, it has proven unfit for purpose from dealing with economic crises to foreign policy. The main phrase link to the EU and decision making is “kicking the can down the road”.
Except most Christians don’t take the old testament seriously the new testament is a love in between Jesus and his followers, the Quran is seriously twisted as such it commands almost total obedience to Allah hence why its just as much a dictatorship as a a religious ideology?.
@Alan. No. I am clearly not saying this. I am saying that the situation has been fuelled by Merkel’s incompetent handling of the situation. The inability to treat people with dignity and respect, to provide safe passage for refugees and the current decision to deport people en masse, against their will has added to the situation. I believe we have a moral responsibility to provide shelter for people fleeing war/violence. But our moral responsibility includes planning and providing safe passage. Merkel did not do this. she simply announced that Germany’s borders were open. She did not ensure people could get to Germany; little provision was made within Germany itself to accommodate the refugees and the result is thousands of people taking to unsafe boat; thousands more trapped in various no-man’s lands on islands and between borders and boiling tensions between communities.
In short, my opinion is that things have reached this point, not because a few refugees have been let into Germany, but because proper provision was not made for refugees to enter Europe in a safe and fair manner.
I still can’t see how you can link this to Germany, Anne Marie. This is not the first of this sort of thing to happen in Brussels and much of what has gone before, though not as awful as these events, predates the German border opening.
Alan, you do realise that a proven Daesh member who fled to Finland was given a suspended sentence for war crimes this week right? A person who willingly chopped the head off of a religious opponent and fought for an extremist organisation managed to make his way to Finland and secure asylum thanks to Merkel’s open door policy.
Alan, are you serious? All it takes is a couple of suicide vests and willing volunteers. You see, that’s the beauty of this type of attack, they have so many choices of target and only need the materials to carry it out.
The planning would have been in getting these people into Europe, assembling the vests and then getting the green light to move. Make no mistake, venue reconnaissance has already taken place long before the attacks.
So you keep repeating. But you can’t seriously believe that someone who is willing to commit such an act won’t, if they want to, find a way to do it.
I don’t think the benefit if not assisting millions of genuine refugees is a price worth paying for the misguided believe that it will keep us safe from people like that who want to do us harm. I referenced 9/11 as an example, those people entered the US legally.
“The planning would have been in getting these people into Europe, assembling the vests and then getting the green light to move. Make no mistake, venue reconnaissance has already taken place long before the attacks.”
Firstly – you don’t know who “these people” are yet. Unless you have some information the Belgian police don’t. You don’t know if they needed to enter Europe at all. As I said before in most cases of attacks like this (Paris and London for example) the people who carried them out where citizens of the country in which the attacks too place.
Secondly – Why are you arguing at me when your comments actually agree with what I said in my initial post here, to wit “. The speculation is that it’s a remnant of the plans of suspected attacked some weeks ago when the city was locked down.” you replied ” venue reconnaissance has already taken place long before the attacks.”. That’s why I said what I said.
Alan, ‘remnants of a plan’, I don’t think so, unless of course you are implying that the plan is to carry out mass attacks in Europe, in which case I agree. But I doubt very much that it was a leftover phase of a previous plan, however if you believe so then could you share which plan you think it was linked to.
And, in the days to come I am certain that it will come out that the attackers were not Belgian nationals. If I am wrong then please remind me at that point.
Brussels was in lock-down in late November owing to a suspected imminent terrorist attack. That is the plan which I refer to. I took it for granted that the people here were aware of this, though clearly I’ve given too much credit to people commenting here.
isis said they were going to send 500000 refugees to europe, they exceeded that number. Isis said they were going to send 5000 jiihadis with the refugees. there were migrants involved in paris attacks. its safe to assume we probably have five to fifteen jiihadists sent from the middle east with the migrants. Along with islamic convert jiihadis and second and third generation, god knows how many are in europe now.
During the serbian conflict serbian forces were dealimg with over six thousand jiihadists from the middle east. We heard nothing about this over here of course, Thats not justifying what happened there, but there is another untold side to that story.
@Alan Kennedy – Can you show me how Christianity is “just as poisonous” please – as laid out in the New Testament? I would be interested to see that Alan. Enlighten me!
Angela Merkel…
In many peoples opinion you have committed treason.
You are solely responsible for aiding not just terrorism, but have put into jeopardy the future of the EU.
I just hope that the UK votes to exit the European Union as many member states have been bullied into submission over this refugee/escapee issue.
No country should be obliged to follow twisted ideals of one individual.
Michael and The Dude! Your Bible is the word of GOD,you don’t get to decide that all the nasty parts like the Old Testament aren’t the Word of GOD. Michael clearly hasn’t read all about the evil deity in the Bible that advocates rape,murder,mutilation and genocide. ‘Oh no no,we decided recently the bad parts aren’t really part of Christian teaching’ please enlighten us as to when a Synod disowned the OT as not being a part of Christianity,thank you!
Anne marie…despite the EU saving thousands of muslims/arabs/iraqis/afghans/nigerians/algerians…its still not enough to appease them….heres 34 EU citizens who have paid the ultimate price for open borders..
Michael the Biblical scholar would be aware of Matthew 5:17 in the New Testament – ‘Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets,I have not come to abolish them,but to fulfil them’ – nice try though,you know you can only claim the Qu’ran is worse than the Christian Bible by dismissing the Old Testament,when both books are as evil as each other.
Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Oh sure the bible is way way worse, look at the beheadings, the gang-rapes like the 1400 girls in Rotherham uk, the sharia, all ok’d by the koran, all takign example of Mohammad who had sex with a 8yr old and had sex slaves, hmmm, Jesus didn’t, wonder who the more “holy man ” was…..meanwhile 2-3% of priests who were pedos were not following christs teachings,were anti-Christian, were against Christs teachings and joined church coz they knew they’d have access to children, but yup, we need to stop immigration of Christians coz they just blow shit up
Not true Richard, even if we debated the Old Testament and forgot about the New Testament. Anyone who objectively examines both can see there is no comparison.
Two simple words Richard you should learn: descriptive and prescriptive. Yes the bible has stories of Genocide, but it does not tell it’s followers to go out and commit genocide! It tells of tales of when god did it, or when he told someone else to do it; ie a DESCRIPTION.
The Koran tells its followers directly to “smite the necks of the unbelievers”, not from a story or an example, a direct command; ie a PRESCRIPTION.
You are no dope Richard so please explain to me how you do not understand the basics of biblical and koranic scripture.
And where is that implemented again?! And when is the last time someone faced that punishment for that crime.
If you are telling me the STFU I think you should justify the relevance of your statement… and I’m really looking forward to how exactly you are going to do it!
its not smug crap allen, its reality. Deal with it, and use your brain. Tell me what happened to Lebanon which was a mainly Christian country, progressive and civilized, then Islamic migration started. Enlightenment me as to what its like now.
Grow up and get real.
@Chewy @Cheney – is there violence in the OT? Yes. It is where the israelites were instructed to kill those who were engaged in human an child sacrifices and other abominations. But of course you didn’t know that because you two know little of the bible.
@the dude, you obviously aren’t keen on modern European history, if you were you would know that Srebrenica was the greatest act of terrorism/genocide to occur on European soil since the Second World War.
In a three day period over 8000 men woman and children were brutally murdered. Woman had their babies throats slit in front of them before they were then were raped and murdered themselves.
And all this was carried out by Christians against a native European Muslim population.
So my point is, religious fanatics can all be equally brutal no matter what what faith they claim adhere to.
There is also the warning about were the route of bigotry and intolerance can lead to.
Now are you going to reply to this or are you going to ignore this uncomfortable truth?
Given that every eu politician and beaurocrat uses this airport regularly they might finally take this terror threat more seriously. Only flew out of that airport recently – sobering stuff. Next thing will be pre airport entry security checks.
Last time I lfew through Moscow I had to go through a metal detector and put my bags through an x-ray scanner at the entrance. First time I’d seen it done for just getting in to the airport, but it didn’t cause any delays, went very quickly.
Happened in Belfast airports for years. In fact happened going into the city centre and into shops. I remember when I first moved away, it was an automatic reaction for me to spread my arms on approach to M&S. Got some weird looks
I’m afraid the damage is done now. Merkal has facilitated the infiltration of enough IS operatives into Europe. Even if we stem the flow now, there are probably enough already in the continent to plan and recruit at ease.
We are reaping the true wonders of open borders and failed multicultural policies. The only thing we can do is have a purge of all identified militants and terrorists, then start controls again.
Germany accepted 2 million migrants in total in 2015. Look it up, those are the official figures. How many were subjected to even a rudimentary background check? How many terrorists and criminals have they imported out of that 2 million?
Alan you are the ignorant one if you don’t think there are terrorists among the 2 million. In fact statistically, given that a large proportion are young males, there are likely to be hundreds, if not thousands of terrorists or terrorist sympathizers in the 2015 cohort of migrants alone.
Cal. How many of the people involved in carrying out this incident were refugees from Germany?
How do you know any of them were? The Belgian security services don’t know who is responsible, yet here you are blaming Merkel and blaming refugees from Germany. That’s the height of ignorance.
In most cases we’ve seen in the recent past the people responsible for such attached are citizen of the country they attacked.
I didn’t say these particular attacks came from Mama Merkels dependents. I’m making the general point that statistically she has imported hundreds, if not thousands, of future terrorists and criminals.
Sure, boot them out because they could be terrorists. Treat them like terrorists because they could be terrorists.
Or treat them like human beings who have fled from a horrible situation, house them, educate them, treat them well and deal with the bad ones when they commit crimes, like we do with everyone else.
Jesus, you really think those 2 million in 2015 were fleeing war? Some groups of migrants to Germany were found to be composed of just 15% Syrians. You really are gullible and nieve.
Your comment: “Or treat them like human beings who have fled from a horrible situation” by which you were referring to the Syrian civil war. I simply said that the German head of intelligence said that many terrorists have posed as refugees and entered Europe.
I never mentioned Brussels, and neither did Cal beforehand, who you also accused of claiming something he did not claim.
The head of German intelligence has said Daesh have entered Europe through the migrant entry points. The CIA has said that Daesh have entered Europe along with economic migrants. Hell even the Russian FIS are saying it.
Alan, I don’t think you have any justification for calling other people “thick” when you’re the one who’s pulling off an ostrich here.
@Jason
I really don’t know why you keep repeating that, I’ve addressed it already.
@Michael
In the comments section of an article discussing a specific event John Payne mentioned, not in reply to anyone, “Merkal [sic] has facilitated the infiltration of enough IS operatives into Europe”. I can only assume he was saying this in reference to this event. Specifically “We are reaping the true wonders of open borders and failed multicultural policies.” what else could that be a reference to in an article about a terrorist attach other than that attack? Yours and Cal’s comments followed on from that comment. So it was’t a deflection of any sort, I was addressing the comments in the context of where they were being discussed.
They haven’t “schooled” anyone. All they have done is repeat nonsense.
There’s not enough knowledge of this incident to suggest it has anything to do with Syrian refugees in Germany. Doing so, at this stage, is simply nonsense. inflammatory xenophobic nonsense and I’m pretty sicked that people here would use a tragic event like this to stoke up and to support their completely unrelated xenophobia. It isn’t at all a shock that like minded idiots rally around such nonsense. God forbid people like you should think for yourselves.
By repeating that assertion you’re proving you didn’t even read or understand the above commenters.
Was a Paris attacker being shown to arrive as a migrant not enough? How many will it take?
Most worrying is a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation are involved in attacks aswel.
If you don’t believe daesh or sympathisers were among the migrants then you’re just plain stupid…look how much damage a small few people can achieve
@Foghorn Leghorn
“By repeating that assertion you’re proving you didn’t even read or understand the above commenters.”
In the comments section of an article discussing a specific event John Payne mentioned, not in reply to anyone, “Merkal [sic] has facilitated the infiltration of enough IS operatives into Europe”. I can only assume he was saying this in reference to this event. Specifically “We are reaping the true wonders of open borders and failed multicultural policies.” what else could that be a reference to in an article about a terrorist attach other than that attack? Other commets followed on from that comment. I was addressing the comments in the context of where they were being discussed.
“Was a Paris attacker being shown to arrive as a migrant not enough?”
Enough for what? For me to consider all refugees fleeing terror as terrorists and deny them a safe place to live? You’re bloody right one terrorist isn’t enough for me to believe we shouldn’t help those who needed for fear of the possibility a tiny fraction might be terrorists.
“Most worrying is a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation are involved in attacks aswel.”
Which is nothing to do with refugees coming here and all to do with how they are treated when they get here – exactly what I am saying!
“If you don’t believe daesh or sympathisers were among the migrants then you’re just plain stupid”
Again with this projection nonsense. I never, ever, said this. Please stop making things up.
“look how much damage a small few people can achieve”
And look how much good we can do when we help ordinary innocent people feeling these terrorists in their own homes. Why would I let those who would do us harm cause me to abandon my compassion for people in need simply because they share the same religion, one radicalised and one not? I won’t and will argue against those who think we should.
‘All refugees fleeing terror’
These 4 words prove you don’t know what you’re talking about. By all means help those ones, but good luck picking em out amongst the hoard
We can go through each point one by one but with that basic fundamental error in your thinking we are not dealing in reality
The thumb system speaks volumes, unless we are all bigots and you’re the enlightened one.
Good of you to offer innocent European blood to help a problem not of our making
“These 4 words prove you don’t know what you’re talking about. By all means help those ones, but good luck picking em out amongst the hoard”
Those four words prove you’re not interested in debate. You selectively quoted four words from a passage, misrepresented them and then dismissed everything else. You’re either disingenuous, lazy or both.
I said: [Was one of the Paris attackers entering as under the guise of a refugee from Syria enough ]“For me to consider all refugees fleeing terror as terrorists and deny them a safe place to live?”
The answer to that is still no. There have been hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria who weren’t part of the Paris attacks or any acts of terrorism anywhere. I am absolutely not going or tar them all with the same brush because a tiny fraction are made up of people who will, one way or another, try to harm us. I am sorry you can’t understand such a basic argument but that’s not my problem.
As for picking them out “amongst the hoard”. That makes absolutely no sense. Among what “hoard”. The people fleeing from a horrible situation are now “hoards” are they?
“We can go through each point one by one but with that basic fundamental error in your thinking we are not dealing in reality”
Well no, we can’t because, as I’ve already said, you’re just selectivity quoting me, misrepresenting what I’ve said and dismissing the rest and you’ve just done it again here. If you can’t debate with someone then why bother trying? If you have a point make it. If you disagree with them explain why. If you have facts then use them but these sad childish attempts to undermine me like this are ridiculous.
“The thumb system speaks volumes, unless we are all bigots and you’re the enlightened one.”
I am not going to appeal to populism. I have my point of view and I’m putting it for ward. You might be so badly in need of validation that some small minded morons thumbing up your comments makes you think you’re righht but that you’re as small minded as them doesnt make you right and you haven’t been able to put a decent aggument forward against what I have said other than to lie and dismiss out of hand what I’ve said. I’m not interested in what thumbs I get, I am interested in the arguments put forward and sadly you and others seem unable to do that.
“Good of you to offer innocent European blood to help a problem not of our making”
Oh f**k right off.
FFS can you not comprehend only a fraction of the hoards, yes hoards of migrants are genuinely fleeing war.
Quite a noble way to put everyone disagreeing with you except for the fact you’re the one appealing to populism, not the other way around.
If I thought all the migrants were genuinely in need of help id be with you man I really would.
Keep it brief bro your essays are hogging my bandwidth. One point at a time please..the crux of the argument here is you being naive enough to think that all arriving are fleeing something
He can’t stick to the point Foghorn, I asked him to previously. Now that he’s claiming I’m spouting nonsense when I clearly explained and then quoted a reputable source, a senior figure in the country that espouses Alan’s own views I might add; it’s quite clear he doesn’t want to listen or address specific points.
You are still talking nonsense. I have already addressed you on this. You can ignore it if you wish. That’s up to you. But you can’t misrepresent me and get away with it. Your ” reputable source” speaks with reference to Syrian refugees in Germany, which as far as we know has nothing to do with this incident.
As I said earlier.
In the comments section of an article discussing a specific event John Payne mentioned, not in reply to anyone, “Merkal [sic] has facilitated the infiltration of enough IS operatives into Europe”. I can only assume he was saying this in reference to this event. Specifically “We are reaping the true wonders of open borders and failed multicultural policies.” what else could that be a reference to in an article about a terrorist attach other than that attack? Yours and Cal’s comments followed on from that comment. So it was’t a deflection of any sort, I was addressing the comments in the context of where they were being discussed.
Referring to 1 billion as sub human because of the actions of a few. I suppose you will agree with Brits calling you the same for our troubles in the past?
“Zach Mouzoun, who arrived on a flight from Geneva about 10 minutes before the first blast at Brussels Airport, told French TV the second louder explosion brought down ceilings and ruptured pipes.
‘It was atrocious. The ceilings collapsed,’ he said. ‘There was blood everywhere, injured people, bags everywhere.’
‘We were walking in the debris. It was a war scene.’”
Any chance we could ditch the political correctness for 5 minutes, and as a nation say we are not allowing migration from a list of Muslim dominated countries? Anyone have a problem with that?
Can you imagine the uproar if the UK had decided to ban all Irish immigrants back in the 70,s and 80′s as a result of the actions of the IRA. Just putting it out there.
You can’t compare. The IRA were a paramilitary organisation with a specific territorial aim, here we simply have Muslim people turning into terrorists because they decide they hate the west.
Ah the classic good terrorists versus bad terrorists argument. Someone always brings it up. Omagh, Birmingham, Warrington etc. Were these justifiable too?
The IRA was a reaction against apartheid (police collusion, oppression of rights) against the Catholic community in the North. This Islamic extremism is a reaction to the rape, pillage, genocide, theft of natural resources, propping up of “friendly” dictators and so on that has been happening in the Middle East for over a hundred years. You reap what you sow and in this instance it’s the innocent of Belgium that suffer. Responsibility lies with those in power always.
It’s more than just a ‘few’… just ask ISIS, lslamic front, FSA, Hamas, Al Nusra, Boko Haram and the countless other Islamic terrorist groups around the world.. add this deadly attack to the more than 28000 other deadly lslamic terrorist attacks around the world since 9/11. So which airport will be next to be bombed by the ‘few’… Paris, London, Amsterdam?
I bet Trumps call for a temporary restriction on Muslim immigration into the United States until we figure out the situation does not sound so crazy, outlandish and “right-wing” any longer, does it?
A lot of ideas sound good when you’re angry, fearful and reeling. The irony is that the biggest victims of Islam are by far Muslims, who put up with this on a daily basis.
No, some ideas are completely rational and backed by mountains of evidence. Whether Muslims are killing Muslims on a daily basis is of completely no relevance, what we need to ensure is we don’t import their killing to Europe, which we seem to be doing.
There is no practical, constitutionally-sound way of banning Muslims from the US. I’m not interested in panicked non-solutions. The terrorists are here, they’re largely home-grown – more conservative than their parents. How does your strategy address that?
So you’re saying that all Muslims should’ve been stopped from moving here in the 60′s, 70′s on the off chance that their children became radicalised by extremists 20-30 years later?
I thought you were into “rational” ideas.
“They’re only here because people like you allowed them or their parents to migrate to Europe.”
I’m not sure what “people like you” is supposed to mean, would you care to clarify?
“People like you” would be open borders liberals. I know your type: nieve, gullible, want to give the migrants a hug. Foolish & childish. Actually you remind me of watching an elderly person hand over his cash to a conman. You then try to berate everyone around you for not being as “generous”. You make me literally sick to the stomach.
If you took 5 minutes to stop frothing with rage at things I didn’t say, we could actually have a worthwhile discussion.
I’m not an apologist for Islam. Islam and its followers have been responsible for heinous amounts of human misery. That doesn’t mean I support half-baked ideas nor am I going to accept being blamed for the actions of terrorists because I don’t support fantasy captain hindsight policies pulled out of your ass.
This is so terrible. I hope it’s not as bad as this but Rt are reporting that there are 17 dead. There doesn’t seem to be an end in sight to these attacks in Europe.
This is what happens when you let every sort into your country with little restriction.
The UK want to leave the EU and who would blame them as this rate. I hope the number of people dead is as low as possible. RIP.
What are you on about? You know exactly what I am referring too. Europe has a Muslim problem…and hundreds of thousands more will be entering this summer.
How many more innocent people need to be killed before serious action is taken against ISIS just blitz them out of the strongholds they have and try to do something about the web pages they possess to spread their evil
The only rational response is a complete suspension of migration from Muslim dominated countries. All “refugees” can be accomodated in UN refugee camps in Turkey. Once that’s done. we can work on eliminating the existing terrorist networks in Europe, without having to worry about them being able to replenish the supply of radicalised young Muslim males by importing them from the middle east.
Well, supporters of Islam are doing a great job of that all by themselves Rochelle. There’s quite a few people out there who are either trying to play down attacks like this or outright justify them.
See, this is what happens when you bring Islam to your front door. the most oppressive ideology on Earth being forced upon the citizen of Europe by Mama Merkel and her counterparts in Sweden and France whom desperately need cheep labor to ensure they stay competitive in the international markets and to prop up the pensions 20,30 and 40 years from now as in case liberals haven’t noticed people don’t have as many children anymore…. And YET there are complete idiots out there whom think they are being brought here because “humanitarian reasons”, Jesus H Christ some people are thick as fxck. This is the Europe of the Future
Muhammad was just a man, a genocidal paedophile man but he is seen by Muslims as the most perfect man there ever was or will be and they are supposed to emulate him to become a better Muslim.
If we didn’t live in such a PC environment people who died in these attacks might be alive today. It’ll shortly come out that the captured $cum bag Salah Abdeslam knew these attacks were going to take place and where, he probably was part of planning it. People will scratch their heads and say why wasn’t this information beaten out of him. Simple reason Mr & Mrs PC have said we shouldn’t. So well done Mr & Mrs PC, Well done.
What measures should be taken when extracting information from a terrorist? Where do you draw the line?
I know exactly what I’d do.
But under PC law it’s not allowed.
That’s the point of my comment. Until terrorism is treated where there are no rules then terrorism will always win.
“Until terrorism is treated where there are no rules then terrorism will always win.”
We have rules, and civility and decency. The very qualities they lack. Torture as a method of information extraction is ineffectual in any case.
It seems “PC” has become a flabby catch-all term for describing things one disagrees with. I wouldn’t regard it as “political correctness” that our police forces are not mandated to use whatever methods they like. It’s a pretty important check and balance.
So let me get this right, we’ll draw up a scenario here. Your kids have been kidnapped, you have the kidnapper and you need to get some information from him because without it they will die.
You “sir/madam”i must do everything right as instructed will of course not do everything you can to save those kids? correct?
you sir/madam are full of shite.
You’ll walk the walk, are pretend to be all righteous but you are no different than me. Don’t pretend to be either mate because at the end of the day no one gives a toss about your pretend righteousness.
And we will hear the same line from the Muslims ” they don’t represent Muslims”
Angela Merkel let them just walk in to Europe and this is the result we get
We need a Trump in europe
No we don’t. The Austrian and German Chancellors opened their borders to Syrian refugees on 4 September 2015.
hmad al-Mohammad, the Paris bomber with a Syrian passport, registered on arrival from Turkey on the Greek island of Leros on 3 October 2015. A month before Germany opened it’s borders “at Merkels request”.
There is no evidence that he left Greece, but it’s believed that he did so through Macedonia and there’s no evidence for, or suggestion in any official source I can see, that he ever set foot in Germany.
@Cal
Really? You were caught lying and that’s what you’ve come back with?
Stop being an idiot.
Where did I say, or in any way suggest, that I think it is alright that ahmad al-mohammad came to Europe?
I didn’t and trying to suggest I did shows you up for the disingenuous idiot you are! You can’t deal with facts and you can’t debate without this sort of nonsense.
He wasn’t caught out lying at all Alan, you’re stretching things to fit your viewpoint and then labeling people idiots for not believing you.
He specifically stated that one of the bombers managed to get into Europe through the open borders which Merkel encouraged. Where was he wrong? You yourself admitted that he left Greece through Macedonia which opened it’s borders to allow migrants in Greece an onward journey to Germany and Denmark.
The only one spitting nonsense is you with your insults and half-truths.
If you’re going to defend a liar then I’m not interested in engaging with you further.
Yes, he absolutely was caught lying. He said:
“We already know one of the Paris terrorists walked into Europe at Merkels request.”
This was a reference to Ahmad al-Mohammad. Originating from Syria he came to Europe (Grece) through Turkey. Greek island of Leros on 3 October 2015.
Germany didn’t open it’s borders to Syrian refugees until a whole month after he registered in Greece and there is no suggestion anywhere that he ever set foot in Germany. He was already in Europe when Germany did do. So claiming as Cal did, and you’re defending that he “walked into Europe at Merkels request” is factually untrue.
These are established facts. I have stretched nothing. You are being as disingenuous has he is now.
You can be as smug and dismissive as you like but you’re defending a lie.
Alan please clarify what you mean by “opened their borders” on the 4th of September?
There borders were never closed prior to that, they are EU nations bordered entirely (except for Switz) by other EU nations!
You also stated “there is no evidence he left Greece”. Do you really believe, in the days of tens of thousands of migrants crossing every day, that each country was registering them? I mean seriously!
“Alan please clarify what you mean by “opened their borders” on the 4th of September?”
I mean what I said. The Austrian and German Chancellors opened their borders to Syrian refugees on 4 September 2015.
“There borders were never closed prior to that, they are EU nations bordered entirely (except for Switz) by other EU nations!”
What’s your point? You cant move freely in the EU if you’re not in the EU. If you’re going to try and contradict me on this you should at least know what the tell you’re talking about which clearly you don’t.
“You also stated “there is no evidence he left Greece”. Do you really believe, in the days of tens of thousands of migrants crossing every day, that each country was registering them? I mean seriously!”
Yes, they were registering them. The person in question was registered in Greece when he made his way to Leros on 3 October 2015. There is no documented evidence that he left Greece, but we know he did, obviously.
On the evidence of registering, you have proved my point, because clearly they weren’t registering everyone, and he was able to cross seven countries unhindered.
Which brings me to your next point, saying you can’t travel freely in the EU if you are not an EU citizen… Eh ok well I’ve lived in Sweden, Germany and the Netherlands and never once have I been stopped at a border -ever-, over the past four years! So I don’t know exactly what you are talking about, but I very much do know what I am talking about. Not every country is an island like Ireland where we go to the airport and get our passports checked. So once you cross the first one (Croatia) it’s open season!
“On the evidence of registering, you have proved my point, because clearly they weren’t registering everyone, and he was able to cross seven countries unhindered.”
The person in question was registered on entering the EU in Greece, on the Island of Leros, on 3 October 2015.
“Which brings me to your next point, saying you can’t travel freely in the EU if you are not an EU citizen… Eh ok well I’ve lived in Sweden, Germany and the Netherlands and never once have I been stopped at a border -ever-, over the past four years!”
If it is possible for you not to lie about what I said that would be great, thanks. I didn’t say “you can’t travel freely in the EU if you are not an EU citizen” that is a lie.
What I did say was “? You cant move freely in the EU if you’re not in the EU. ” Which is true. You must first enter the EU. Like the person in question did in Leros on 3 October 2015.
” So I don’t know exactly what you are talking about, but I very much do know what I am talking about.”
Clearly not, because in your sad effort to undermine me you lied about what I said.
“Not every country is an island like Ireland where we go to the airport and get our passports checked. So once you cross the first one (Croatia) it’s open season!”
He entered though Greece, he was registered there. This is a documented and well known fact which I have stated countless times now, not Croatia. He did this a whole month BEFORE Austria and Germany allowed the free movement of refugees (I have said this before too). So to claim that he did, as Cal claimed, walk “into Europe at Merkels request.” is utter nonsense. It is a complete lie which has been shown demonstrably not to be true and you’re being incredibly disingenuous in defending it by lying about what I have said.
You have just – again! – argued my point for me! This is hilarious :D
You said “What I did say was “? You cant move freely in the EU if you’re not in the EU. ” Which is true. You must first enter the EU. Like the person in question did in Leros on 3 October 2015.”
Therefore you have accepted that once within the EU someone can travel freely, yes. So firstly, why would there be any evidence of him travelling out of Greece once he had entered the EU? Why would you even make that statement, it was a completely pointless comment.
Secondly, your point that he came to the EU a month before Merkel “opened the borders” is also pointless because they were never closed in the first place!!! Do you not see that, so he did walk in there at Merkels request because by default she had no way of stopping him once he entered Greece!
And your little insults are demeaning you. There’s no need for them.
I’m very worried about the Irish at the airport in Brussels.
My husband, 2 kids and I were outside departures getting out of the taxi when the bombs went off. We heard the first explosion. My husband saw the second. We ran like crazy.
We were there for the 9.50 ryanair flight to Dublin. There’s an Aer Lingus one around the same time. There would have been a lot of Irish checking in around 8 am.
The Brusselèèrs, Bruxellois and Brusselaars have a tendentiously odd sense of humour but during the lock down in November were wonderfully accommodating of the many people who were stranded.
Donald Trump is right again.
In an article in The New York Times in January he is quoted as calling Brussels
a “hellhole” due to the terrible effects of mass immigration.
“Asked by the Fox Business Network anchor Maria Bartiromo about the feasibility of his proposal to bar foreign Muslims from entering the United States, Mr. Trump argued that Belgium and France had been blighted by the failure of Muslims in these countries to integrate.
“There is something going on, Maria,” he said. “Go to Brussels. Go to Paris. Go to different places. There is something going on and it’s not good, where they want Shariah law, where they want this, where they want things that — you know, there has to be some assimilation. There is no assimilation. There is something bad going on.”
Warming to his theme, he added that Brussels was in a particularly dire state. “You go to Brussels — I was in Brussels a long time ago, 20 years ago, so beautiful, everything is so beautiful — it’s like living in a hellhole right now,” Mr. Trump continued.”
This has to be laid right at Merkels doorstep. She unilaterally exposed Western Europe to completely unfettered immigration – and this is the result. The rest of Europe needs to tell her she’s got to do it the bill to fix this, starting with closing borders. All of them.
The Christian prophet is a peace loving hippie who fed the poor and healed the sick. The Muslim prophet was a genocidal maniac who spread his religion with the sword. It is not surprising that one of these religions produces more crazed murderers than the other.
Syria is a war zone and a vast Jihadi training camp.. Only a complete idiot or an Islamo fascist apologist would comment that there were no Jihadi fighters or potential suicide bombers with the ‘migrants’.
time to put up iron wall borders and leave Muslims to solve their own problems.
Any Muslim that is in Europe is welcome to stay but you live by the laws in Europe
i am sick of them trying to change this side of the world and of them bring their problem here.
The Journ@l and it’s hareem of bia$ed, cuck0lded, weak willed Islam apologist tw@ts already have blood on their soft little middle class hands, pontificating about the treatment of these barbaric, incompatible, military aged men roaming Europe ráping women and children, setting off bombs and murdering innocents.
The bias on this site is almost amusing sometimes, how someone can continue getting paid to promote diversity and multiculturalism on here while completely ignoring what an absolute disaster it has been shown as in Belgium Molenbeek, Sweden Malmo, Paris France, Rotherham Luton Birmingham England, Cologne Germany among many others. All these places infested with disgusting, arabic and african young men roaming the streets grooming girls and children, resenting their host country plotting attacks, all worshiping a pedophile false prophet and the oppressive death cult “ideology” of Islam. Why do pathetic liberal reporters still purposefully ignore the facts and figures pertaining to Muslim immigrant violence that has skyrocketed around Europe for years? Where does it end?
It doesn’t!
People like our deluded left wing “journálist” here will continue to select only the stories which show the locals as the bad guys and promote ANYTHING which shows migrants getting a hard time, it would completely undermine their cause if they were to do equal reporting on all the destruction, assault, rápe, murder etc these uneducated Muslims commit as soon as they enter Europe, there arguments for taking more in would be utterly redundant.
And that’s their aim, they soften up the public and control the discussion on immigrants with biased and agenda driven reporting, using slight underhanded tricks like phrasing words differently and using emotive language to pull at heartstrings, never showing what complete dregs of society these violent sex-deprived incompatible young men are, they want to roam around Europe unchecked and unhindered free to sell drugs, receive welfare, beat up locals, further the Islamic caliphate and rápe young girls who are seen as “kaffir” to their Muslim minds and murder the “infidels” through guerrilla warfare.
Be under no impression the tw@ts at the Journ@I think they are “doing the right thing” in their pathetic marxist reporting on this issue,if they go against it and actually report on the migrants destruction in Europe that has already been happening for years before this attack they will be out of a job, no mediá company wants to employ someone going against the “neo-liberal multicultural wet dream” because that’s where the money is, thats where the power is, look toward Péter SutherIand and Ge0rge Soros.
But they will always fail, their lies will always be seen through, at this stage they are grasping at straws for little stories to generate false sympathy for these incompatible young men, day in day out the stories of terror these Muslims cause completely outweigh any strawmen argument liberals come up with to defend them. The Irish are well aware what a scourge on humanity these Islamic animals are, the ones who attacked in Paris, in Molenbeek comitting violent terror attacks, in Sweden dominating the rápe statistics, in Rotherham for years rapíng the community going unchecked and many other communities where they’ve caused destruction. Keep them out of Ireland, don’t listen to the j0urnaI because they don’t give two hoots about the public, they have their own biásed agenda.
Quite a mouthful Travis but you are completely right , the left have ruined Sweden , Merkel in Germany getting into bed with that Islamist in Turkey , its hard to believe that such a small number can cause so much harm , will it be any different here ? Not a chance RTE and the Irish Times will lead with the joys of multiculturalism even when the evidence throughout Europe points to the opposite , our weak political class haven’t got what it takes so we can expect a Molenbeek here in Dublin in the near future
Yeah, the irony of him expressing his anger on the same “marxist”, “neo-liberal”,” eluded” “left wing” media “hareem of bia$ed, cuck0lded, weak willed Islam apologist tw@ts” isn’t lost on many, I’m sure.
Thanks for the update Ming, probably the most helpful thing you’ve done since you very elected….. unfortunate that it happened on one of the 16% of days you’re actually in parliament doing your job.
Despite what most people feel at a time like this which is as usual it is more poor innocent people getting killed for the actions of their governments who are incapable of defending them. These security services are little more than the keystone cops.
Well that’s not true. There are countless operations carried out on a daily basis by security services in the UK, US and elsewhere which prevent or minimize the impact of events like this. You won’t always hear about them owing to the nature of what they do. The problem is that security forced need to be lucky every time (and sadly can’t be) terrorists only need to be lucky once.
Diarmuid was just listening to your fine gael homie Brian Hayes. Thinks Merkel is right to open the flood gates on Islamic refugees into Europe. He was blaming us and other governments for not letting in more. Keep these terrorists out of Europe. Back Assad against isis.
Jason, no one is trying to down play attacks. The whole thing is atrocious. Despicable. It’s what we take from these attacks that’s important. It’s essential that we are not short sighted in these situations, and that we properly think about all the factors involved. Otherwise we go mental with fear and end up killing each other, while the people who caused tensions between the two areas continue to scare monger us, while we go and fight for them.
are you telling me that Salah Abdeslam was in the Belgian capital for the last 4 months and that no Muslim new about it or had see him ??
They are not working with us
How about a complete suspension of Muslim immigration Rochelle, so we can work on dismantling the existing terrorist networks that your Muslim friends have constructed?
So sad to here. The poor families and friends RIP. Terrorist win if we start getting angry over Islam and whoever the western media stations want to blame. These guys are terrorists that’s all! The western nations have been bombing them for the last few decades how did we honestly think they were going to react?
I can give you a few places where you can shove your apologist comment. Innocent people are due to a cowardly attack and you want to somehow blame them to shove the spotlight off radical Islam?
This problem can only be solved by peaceful, moderate Muslims. They are, supposedly the “Vast Majority”.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good Muslims to do nothing.
How many Mosque Leaders will condemn this attack, very few if Paris was anything to go by. Think they have ensured Trump’s presidency, ironic really as he will just bomb them to oblivion.
None of then and the leader never do condemn them, they are as bad as the bombers
I for one am sick of Muslim flocking to Europe like as if they have a right to be here and breeding like rabbits.
western people are not free to visit most of the Muslim country’s and if you do u are at massive risk.
So why should Muslims be allowed walk around our country’s ??
“A statement issued by the Belgian Muslim Executive (EMB) committee, an umbrella group, said the organization “condemns with force and without reservation” what it called “acts of extreme cruelty against innocent civilians.””
Gusty….10 years ago..when our enrichment by vibrant multiculturalism was at its height…..i was chatting to a dublin copper about the “new irish”…he said filipinos almost never came to the attention of the gardai….
What measures should be taken when extracting information from a terrorist? Where do you draw the line? I know exactly what I’d do. But under PC law it’s not allowed. That’s the point of my comment. Until terrorism is treated where there are no rules then terrorism will always win.
@Gusty Thanks for accepting my apology. I wanted to make a point, one I feel is valid. I didn’t consider who I might offend as a consequence. Something I will be mindful of in future. Please, apologise on my behalf to your wife. It must have felt awful.
So the fact that many people called this and said it would happen again is worse than the murder of dozens of people? That is a sick way to think, isn’t it? Islamophobic? Damn right I am. I don’t want that incredibly primitive, backward and irrationally violent death cult becoming a significant presence in this country, neither do the vast majority of people, get used to it.
Isn’t that what you libtards have been doing since the money men started with their openBorders fiasco, and you libtards have had their hand up your ar^^e. How many attacks does it take for you numpties to get it, they don’t want you sitting down, they want you on your knees in submission and your land and women conquered. The reactionary thing is not reacting to when you are consistantly let know you are under invasion. Grow a pair
“Grow a pair” ok who should we bomb, do we need some kind of internment, how about trials in camera, or should we all just man up and go get ourselves a terrorist
Whoever kills an innocent…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)
The NWO carries out another terrorist attack , sells the attack on its 100% owned media and the dumbed down zombie population of the world buy it hook line and sinker while beating the war drums for their very own agenda . Flawless !!!!
So true,being natural doesn’t mean we are safe just means we can be taking over, or airports,ports, lands etc can all be used to aid war crimes. It’s already been happening for years and years. Shannon Airport being a prime example of this.
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Certain information (like an IP address or device capabilities) is used to ensure the technical compatibility of the content or advertising, and to facilitate the transmission of the content or ad to your device.
Match and combine data from other data sources 64 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Information about your activity on this service may be matched and combined with other information relating to you and originating from various sources (for instance your activity on a separate online service, your use of a loyalty card in-store, or your answers to a survey), in support of the purposes explained in this notice.
Link different devices 46 partners can use this feature
Always Active
In support of the purposes explained in this notice, your device might be considered as likely linked to other devices that belong to you or your household (for instance because you are logged in to the same service on both your phone and your computer, or because you may use the same Internet connection on both devices).
Identify devices based on information transmitted automatically 75 partners can use this feature
Always Active
Your device might be distinguished from other devices based on information it automatically sends when accessing the Internet (for instance, the IP address of your Internet connection or the type of browser you are using) in support of the purposes exposed in this notice.
Save and communicate privacy choices 54 partners can use this special purpose
Always Active
The choices you make regarding the purposes and entities listed in this notice are saved and made available to those entities in the form of digital signals (such as a string of characters). This is necessary in order to enable both this service and those entities to respect such choices.
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