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Broken promises and invisible candidates: Here's what we learned from last night's Prime Time debate

Someone ‘pulled a Ming’ and the issue of Roscommon Hospital just isn’t going away… Here’s what went down in the RTÉ studios last night.

THERE ARE TEN candidates in the running to take the Roscommon-South Leitrim Dáil seat vacated by recently-installed MEP Luke ‘Ming’ Flanagan in Europe.

Some — like long-serving Sinn Féin councillor Martin Kenny and Labour’s John Kelly — are experienced political operators. Others — like Fine Gael’s Maura Hopkins and Strokestown Independent Emmet Corcoran are relative newcomers.

All of the candidates hoping for success in next week’s Dáil vote made the trip to the RTÉ studios last night for a Miriam O’Callagan-hosted debate.

As expected, issues at the centre of politics in the region — like water services and the closure of the Roscommon hospital’s Emergency Department — got more than a few mentions.

There were also a few surprises along the way…

Here’s what we learned:

1. RTÉ has done away with its ‘two stream’ debate format

The national broadcaster came in for serious criticism from independent candidates during the European elections. One hopeful in that race, you may recall, even staged a sit-down protest in the studio during the North West constituency debate — and had to be dragged out of the studio.

There was no repeat of that scenario last night, with the candidates all lined up in a single row. They drew lots to decide who would stand where, Miriam explained, before kicking off proceedings.

[Screengrab/RTÉ]

2. The main parties all took a hammering on water. 

Fine Gael’s candidate – Hopkins – talked up the fact that householders with water that’s unfit for drinking will be handed a discount on the ‘water supply’ portion of their bill. Fianna Fáil’s Ivan Connaughton, a councillor and local auctioneer, contended that his party would have addressed problems in the supply system before “even thinking” about bringing in charges.

Senator John Kelly, of Labour, said the water system should have been fixed during the Celtic Tiger period (though, oddly, he pronounced ‘Celtic’ with a soft ‘c’ — like the football team — which is a new one on us).

 

“Down the road things will improve,” Kelly said.

There’s no doubt about it.

Senator John Kelly [RTÉ]

2. It took a while before the Independents got a look in…

Miriam let the candidates from the two government and the two opposition parties go at it for a while before bringing in some of the non-party hopefuls.

That meant we were at the 20 minute mark before someone did this…

It was bound to happen, wasn’t it?

Crosby said the Government had created a “monster” in Irish Water.

3. The ‘Ming’ legacy looms large…  

The outspoken Independent may have his feet firmly under his new desk in Brussels. But he was mentioned several times in the course of the debate.

Michael Fitzmaurice, one of the front-runners in the campaign, is the Flanagan-endorsed candidate…

Fitzmaurice suggested using fresh water from the River Shannon to boost supply in the constituency.

If you can bring water half-way across America. I’m damn sure you can bring it to Roscommon — or to Leitrim.

The current charges system means the Government isn’t giving people “enough water to wash themselves” the turf-cutting association chief said. 

4. The issue of the closed emergency room just isn’t going away. 

Taoiseach Enda Kenny made a pre-election pledge to “protect and defend” the Emergency Department at Roscommon County Hospital back in 2011.

The facility was subsequently closed, and Fine Gael TD Denis Naughten ended up leaving the party over the issue.

The FG hopeful in the race this time out faces an uphill battle as a result of her party’s handling of the issue in recent years.

[RTE]

Here’s what she had to say on the subject last night…

“Roscommon A&E is closed and it won’t be opening in the future.

“But Roscommon Hospital is very much opened and at present — as you mentioned — there is a €6 million endoscopy unit currently under construction.

“There is a rehab service planned. That will be a satellite service to the National Rehabilitation Hospital in Dun Laoghaire, working with stroke patients.

I know that this will be crucial not only for the people within Roscommon but also for people within the west of Ireland.

As you might imagine, her response didn’t get an overly-positive response from John McDermott, the Roscommon Hospital Action Committee candidate (he’s the chap who was involved in the scuffle last Friday)…

[RTE]

John Kelly (of Labour) said he agreed with McDermott that the way the emergency room was closed was “done wrong”.

“But you’re a member of this Government,” Miriam reminded him.

“We don’t have the health ministry Miriam, and you know that.” he responded…

I was campaigning strong prior to the last election on retaining services at the A&E at Roscommon.

Connaughton, the Fianna Fáil candidate, said he would work to ensure the re-opening of the Department was on his party’s manifesto for the next General Election.

5. Des Guckian felt invisible… 

We were at the 35 minute mark before the Independent managed to get his spoke in for the first time.

“I feel I must have been invisible for the last 15 minutes,” he opined.

Guckian — who was elected to Leitrim County Council back in May — said the Government’s handling of both the hospital issue and of Irish Water had been a “disgrace”.

He entered the campaign primarily to highlight the dangers of fracking, he said — warning that use of the hydraulic technique in the area would have an effect akin to letting off an “atomic bomb”.

[RTÉ]

Gerry O’Boyle — running under a ‘Land League West’ banner — had also been pretty invisible until this point

The Castlerea man hopes to highlight the issue of home repossession, as the campaign progresses.

[RTÉ]

6. The John McNulty Affair got a mention…

The main political controversy of the day was bound to come up, and attention switched back to Maura Hopkins and the main parties as Miriam asked the Fine Gael candidate to explain the events surround the The McNulty Affair.

Some of the Independents weren’t happy with the focus on the issue.

“It’s not fair play. This is typical RTÉ policy,” Gerry O’Boyle complained.

From Miriam:

Gerry, to be fair — that was a huge national issue.

“Let them deal with the Seanad issue down the line,” O’Boyle responded.

I’m here to deal with the issue of family homes… Family homes — you don’t even think about it!

7. The Sinn Féin candidate’s hoping to capitalise on the drift away from FF/FG…

The rise of ‘Ming’ in the area in recent years has coincided with a drift of support away from the old Civil War parties… With Fianna Fáil still reeling from their electoral wipe-out of three years ago, and Fine Gael the main party in a Government that’s presided over a raft of unpopular decisions, Martin Kenny attempted to paint himself as the rational alternative choice.

They don’t look after the farmers — they look after big business.  It’s the same thing, whether its Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael in power. This election is a choice between the politics of the past — the politics of Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael — or a new and different way forward.

Martin Kenny [RTE]

8. One candidate wants to resurrect Decentralisation… 

Remember the disastrous Fianna Fáíl policy?

Tom Crosby wants to bring back a version of it. Though he insists:

My plan is totally different. And we put a lot of research into it. There can jobs put in from the public sector to every town and village in the constituency of Roscommon and Leitrim.

[RTÉ]

Emmet Corcoran, another Independent, insisted however that the policy was nothing short of “economic quackery”.

*     *     *     *     *

Voters in Roscommon-South Leitrim go to the polls on 10 October.

The Prime Time debate for the Dublin South West by-election takes place next Monday night.

Read: How’s the ‘Ming’ by-election shaping up?… We hit the trail in Roscommon-South Leitrim

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    Oct 16th 2013, 9:59 PM

    Newsagents and shops will have to pay more to sell cancer

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    Oct 16th 2013, 11:13 PM

    Great comment there Gerry…..NOT

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    Oct 17th 2013, 10:04 AM

    I hope they are fully staffed with nurses in the BURN department!

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    Oct 17th 2013, 9:56 PM

    But will purveyors of other Carcinogens pay more? I’m sure Mr Noonan will ignore Hep sufferers: Hepatitis B virus (HBV) and hepatitis C virus (HCV) are viruses that cause acute or chronic liver disease. They are listed in the report as “known human carcinogens” because studies in humans show that chronic hepatitis B and hepatitis C infections cause liver cancer. Approximately one million United States residents are chronically infected with HBV, which primarily is transmitted through sexual contact (50%) and intravenous drug use (15%).

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    Oct 16th 2013, 11:04 PM

    I hate what has happened. I feel sorry for people coming out of school. Go to college? Can’t afford fees. Get a job. Is none. Maybe a part time job. Sure how do you save to go to college on a part time wage?

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    Oct 16th 2013, 11:02 PM

    Cigarette cause Cancer n its Legal n Cannabis is Anti Cancer n its illegal….

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    And if I’m causing no harm, it shouldn’t bother you “Mr whoever Make the Law”

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    Oct 16th 2013, 11:33 PM

    @ Criminal

    imagine the amount of money generated if they make drugs legal then tax it

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    Oct 16th 2013, 11:07 PM

    At least they left the box of matches alone?

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    Oct 17th 2013, 1:34 AM

    A Nurse Bank, I Would love some interest from that.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 3:28 AM

    In NY where I work we use agency and Per Diem (bank nurses). It is cheaper as they don’t get benefits or pension contribution. Great for my budget but these group work when they want not when I need them. And nary a one is available when it comes to the holiday season. It causes morale issues with regular staff who are paid less and have little choice about schedules.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 9:11 AM

    If that’s the case in NY Mary, be very interesting in Ireland to see how that works

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    Oct 17th 2013, 9:26 AM

    I see that already where I work , the full time staff have little or no choice when it comes to Christmas but the permanent but cover staff refuse to work it as they feel they don’t have to , however they are the first to complain about not getting ti work every Sunday and Bank holiday . It has caused serious problems amongst staff . Wont work in the long term.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 1:25 AM

    how many people and new born babys have cancer and never smoked??????????

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    Oct 17th 2013, 2:13 PM

    You should take the percentage of people who don’t/have never smoked and get cancer versus the number of smokers who get cancer. Or you could engage your brain before you comment.

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    Loads, if they live near Chernobyl.

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    Oct 16th 2013, 9:54 PM

    Anything about when the free gp care comes in for under 6s?

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    Oct 16th 2013, 10:40 PM

    Why not bring in “free” everything? How many jobs will be lost raising the €40,000,000 to pay for “free” under 5 doctors visits? I’d guess about 4,000.

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    Oct 16th 2013, 11:01 PM

    I just asked a simple question. I have read a good few of the budget documents abduction could see no detail on it. as this article is aimed at going into more detail on the budget, i thought it was the appropriate place to ask the question.

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    and* not abduction!

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    Oct 17th 2013, 8:14 AM

    Sandra legislation will be needed here and this is likely to be heavily opposed ao I reckon wr’re looking at Q4 2014 before anything concrete is in place

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    Oct 17th 2013, 9:58 PM

    If I visit a doctor under five times , is it free?

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    Oct 17th 2013, 12:34 AM

    Is that a typo the our debt will rise from 205 MILLION to 2011 BILLION by 2016? Or should the million have been billion???

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    Oct 17th 2013, 1:02 AM

    Typo. We are already screwed

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    Oct 17th 2013, 4:37 AM

    Making cigarettes illegal or having any drug illegal for that matter is not a good idea. While this may seem counter-intuitive, it makes sense.

    Crimes rates from a black market would increase and thus violence. Stress would be put on Gardai, courts and the justice system and also cost a fortune. Products would be adulterated and worse for your health. People would still end up in hospitals which would cost the government a fortune (taxing such products is what’s paying these bills currently).
    Not to mention illegality prevents researchings developing cures and treatments due to harsh licensing of studying illegal substances.
    All on top of making criminals of otherwise law abiding people AND making access to their treatment more difficult!

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    Oct 16th 2013, 10:40 PM

    Sandra its under 5′s. I dunno, but would imagine Jan 1st as with most reforms.

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    Oct 16th 2013, 10:59 PM

    It is 5 and under apparently and i heard it is later in 2014 as they haven’t planned anything yet to implement it.

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    Oct 17th 2013, 1:52 PM

    I am building an Ark.. Any takers?

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