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WITH THE CAO offers coming out today, 25 students will be placed in courses in Trinity College Dublin based on more than their Leaving Cert points totals.
This year, TCD ran a feasibility study on how they handle admissions, as a pilot for both the third-level sector and CAO.
There were 270 applications for the 25 places on offer in TR003 (History, 10 places), TR004 (Law, 10 places), and TR028 (Ancient and Medieval History and Culture, 5 places), a higher than expected level of interest in the new admissions route being tested.
The ten students offered places in Law today received points scores within 70 points of the required CAO total, but demonstrated their suitability for the course through three other headings:
The ten students offered places in History today received points scores within 150 points of the required CAO total, and also impressed when all three scores were combined to provide an overall, or ‘holistic’ evaluation of their ability, potential, and suitability for the chosen course of study.
The project sponsor, Dr. Patrick Geoghegan, said that the results show that points are not the only thing that make a third-level student.
“The feasibility study shows that it is possible to use additional factors when assessing applicants, and still maintain anonymity and transparency. The best students are not necessarily the ones with the highest points – they are the ones with the academic ability and potential needed to thrive at third-level, self-reflective and independent thinkers, who are the right fit for the right course.
“These are the kinds of students we want in our classrooms – students who are passionate about learning, independent and critical thinkers, and with the ability and potential to succeed academically.”
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It’s not rocket science lads, season ban for anyone hiring undocumented workers. Simples.
@canuckandgo:
Undocumented? Illegal workers
@Just Some Guy: Same thing – but yeah, let’s call a spade a spade. Presumably these boat owners are being prosecuted though? Right?
Pendency at it’s best…
@canuckandgo: but sorry i thought controlling your borders was racist and we were all supposed to feel sorry for US businesses without a supply of illegal immigrants? So it happens in ireland and now it is bad?
how can our fishermen make any money with dutch spanish and huge russian factory ships taking all our fish? we got severly screwed by the Eu.
@gregory: And the solution to that is modern slavery?
I wondered how long it would take for someone to make it their fault.
@Tony Canning: the solution is that our politicians stop giving all our fish for free to foreign countries. We’re losing huge money because our politicians don’t stand up for us. At least Norway told the Eu to take a hike and they’re making huge money as a result.
@gregory: Making excuses is worse than just being an apologist.
@Tony Canning: Address the point. This stealing of our fish is costing this country huge money since we joined the Eu. Our politicians are not representing our National Interest.
@gregory: at least acknowledge that hiring illegals and working them like that is wrong .. I agree with your other points though.
@Suzie Sunshine: how much are the russian and spanish factory ship workers getting paid?
@gregory: I am addressing the point. You’re advocating for slavery and using the big bad EU as an excuse.
@Tony Canning: the big bad eu just facilitated the transfer of irish jobs to romania avg salary €500/mth. post below. the Eu doesnt’t give a damn about Ireland.
@Suzie Sunshine: suzie, true but we cant compete w slave wages on russian spanish factory ship. lets get our fisheries back – it should be a billion dollar industry here and pay fair wages to all. The Norwegian system is an excellent example!
@gregory: pathetically conflating a low wage economy with slavery now….
Irish fishing industry worth 850million a year. Irish fishing industry worth 9billion a year to Eu This is the real problem.
@Sinbad the sailor: 100% and why the hell Irish people don’t protest about this issue is beyond me. Our politicians are useless. Look how many jobs we could have created a major industry like the Norwegians. It is time our politicians were held to account instead of the people lying down like sheep.
@Sinbad the sailor: I heard someone describe fish in Irish waters as European fish as due to migration they may only be passing through Irish waters. Don’t know if that is a fair comment?
@Finn Bowe: if this is true leave them wait till said fish have migrated through Irish waters.
Modern day slave galleys
@Tony Hardwicke: speaking of slave wages….over 200 workers lost their jobs in longford recently at a key supplier of components to the oil and gas industry-Cameron who was based in ireland for nearly 40 years . the workshop workers in ireland were getting around €3k/month. The manufacturing operation was moved to another Eu country where the workers get paid about €3/hour or €500/month all aided and abetted by the Eu with Infrastructural Grants to offset the over €100mln cost of building a state of the art factory. So dont talk to me about the Eu or a level playing regarding wages. the Eu represents big business not equality.
@gregory: it was moved to Romania.
I am a fishermen and last year we were broken down we had two lads on contract and 5 Irish lads so for 3 months the contract lads got there money every week but we get nothing can’t even get the dole we are self employed but yet we can get sacked I started a new job and we are having problems with boat so I have not made a wage in 6 weeks I was on a boat when Mr Fleming came aboard check on out crew so he went to the foreign lads first and ask were they be treated OK and everything was and then I asked Mr Fleming how come you didn’t ask the Irish crew men which was five men and his answer was there Irish and they are OK it’s a total joke we work big hours and some times we don’t even make a wage cause of weather or other problems who is there to look after us
You get paid by what you catch. If it’s a poor week fishing wages will be poor , if it’s a good week fishing wages will be good simple science, if the don’t like it no one is stopping them from quitting their not chained to the boats like slaves, it’s a tough industry as it is without all this bolloxology .
@Sinbad the sailor: ‘simple science’, Russian for, ‘I’m trolling from St. Petersburg’.
@Sinbad the sailor: True that. I know of three Filipino fishermen doing prawns in The Porcupine all year round. Rarely come off the boat. £1200/month paid into the bank for herself and the family, and all are delighted.
@Grotmaster: no doubt they’d be even more delighted if their wages reflected the hours they work.
If we’re going to even try to pretend that we live up to the most basic standard of decency, we have to give these fishermen a decent working wage. It’s not all about dangling a line over the bow of a boat, or dropping a net in the water, it’s a very dangerous job at times, and I’m speaking from personal experience from when I was younger.
We have all of these big brave comments from people hiding behind keyboards, giving out about immigrants, and the same people probably cream their pants trying to get a slice of toast out of the toaster with a fork. It’s pathetic.
@Grainne Abdulaziz: there illegal they should be stopped by the authorities long before the even get on a boat.
@Sinbad the sailor: There was never a time when illegal fisherman haven’t been on fishing vessels. I don’t think the general public give a damn how the fish on their plate is caught. I also notice a lot of syntax errors in your comments which strongly indicate you are not, yourself, an Irish-born fisherman. This doesn’t bother me personally, but can I ask are you operating on a valid licence and registered vessel in Irish waters?
@Grainne Abdulaziz: Grainne: our rescue services were out twice to rescue russian workers on factory ships recently – address that why we are giving our fish away. If you’re so worried about honours English i suggest you avoid this site and logic dictates foreign fishing interests are not going to support any of the arguments he posted which are to stand up for our National Interest which I would suggest is more important than your policing of the English language idem you are missing the point entirely. Look at the big picture.
@Grainne Abdulaziz: I’m Irish born, a fisherman of 20 years . Own my own boat employ only Irish crew. The industry has been good financially to us . In my 20 years I’ve only worked with Irish crew. Yes there is greedy fishermen who did or do employ illegal workers. But let not that tarnish the vast majority of good genuine Irish fishermen who work in this hard industry with the little quota we’re giving .
@Sinbad the sailor: You’re about as Irish as a pineapple, yourself and gregory are trolski trolski from Petrograd, dobra!
@Grainne Abdulaziz: well with a surname like yours I think the odds of me been more Irish than you are in my favour, plus we’re involved in the industry so if all you can question how Irish we are you know very little on the issues in the fishing industry
Load of old carp.
Fishing is always tough no matter where you are from.
Undocumented, illegal, or with work permit anyone not being paid for their labour is a slave. Slavery was abolished many years ago. Let’s not reintroduce it by sleight of hand.
@John Campbell: How much are the workers on those russian and spanish factory ships being paid ?
Construction ask restaurant trade is no different but it was OK for I phone Joan to do it through Jobs bridge.
Remember it was 39 hrs per week for €50.
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