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"We're going 'mother of God, how are we going to survive in this country?'"

Actor Michael Collins speaks to us about Traveller life in Ireland, and his latest role.

‘EVERY ONE OF us judges others on first contact’. That’s the tagline of Foxy, a new play by Noelle Brown, and it’s a line that rings true for actor Michael Collins.

As a member of the Travelling community, he has seen first-hand how people can discriminate against him because of his identity.

For Collins – who many will know from his days as Johnny Connors in Glenroe – starring in Foxy is a way for him to bring the topics of identity and discrimination to a wide audience.

“He knows that the child is his”

Foxy was inspired by real-life events. It involves red-headed garda Ivan, lonely Doreen who has a shameful past, and Traveller Michael who finds himself pushed to the limits when it is assumed his child is not his own.

“The character I’m playing, [Michael], is the father and the father is in the house with the child and the guards come,” explained Collins. “He’s trying to get his head around what’s going on. He knows that the child is his.”

The play deals with prejudice against Travellers, as well as their relationship with the gardaí.

“It’s a very emotional play but also parts of it are quite funny,” said Collins, who feels like he’s made a connection with the character.

He is a very strong member of the Travelling community. He is proud of who he is and where he comes from. He would have had bad experiences with the guards or with people who would discriminate against Travellers. I went through that and sympathise.

Collins and his wife have brought up her nieces as well as their own children. “The youngest one is very, very blonde with blue eyes, so I could imagine someone coming and knocking at the door and saying ‘is that your child?’.”

Mark Fitzgerald & Michael Collins in Foxy by Noelle Brown Direted by Oonagh Murphy Produced by Verdant Productions Project Arts Centre Tues 27 October 2015         Photo Tom Lawlo Mark Fitzgerald & Michael Collins in Foxy by Noelle Brown

Collins has written four plays himself, the most recent of which, Magpies on the Pylon, dealt with suicide in the Travelling community. There is an extraordinarily high rate of suicide amongst Travellers, and this was Collins’ way of taking a dark subject and exploring what it means to people.

After each show, he would meet people in the foyer who would tell him their own tragic stories.

“My nightmare is this tragedy is going to happen again”

Collins is a Traveller activist, and the recent deaths in Carrickmines are weighing heavy on his mind.

He fears another fire like Carrickmines could occur.

My nightmare is this tragedy is just waiting to happen again, because there are tonnes of sites around with naked wires, no panel walls blocking off mobile homes from each other.

While filming a recent project, Collins watched as a mobile home was set on fire – it took 6.5 mins to turn into an inferno. It further impressed on him the dangers that face people living in some halting sites.

The Carrickmines fire was “a terrible shock to the Traveller community”, but also to the settled community, he said.

“I think that people out around that area are traumatised and will be for a long time,” he said. “It’s great to see the settled people coming out in supporting the Travellers and great to see the politicians coming out on the radio from all different parties, and finally saying we need to do something about this.”

He believes Traveller accommodation needs to be taken out of the hands of local authorities. “Travellers are not a priority to government or to the local authorities,” he maintained.

He said there is no room in politics for people who get votes with an ‘anti-Traveller agenda’.

Collins did feel proud about the country’s reaction to the Carrickmines deaths – like the flag hung at half mast.

It made me feel very proud. It was the first time I’ve ever felt that we’ve been received as a community and almost felt like we were an ethnic minority grouping in [the eyes of the country].

But the reaction at Rockville Drive made him feel “that things were never going to change”. It is ”what you’re fighting against as member of the Traveller community”.

“I know it’s not all the local community there,” said Collins, who described himself as “heartbroken”.

He thought to himself:

Oh mother of sweet loving God, what sort of people would do something like that when there are people not even identified in the morgue? It brought me back to Ireland in the 70s, 80s, 90s… something else needs to be done.

Michael Collins in Foxy by Noelle Brown (2) Photo Tom Lawlor

He believes the settled and Traveller communities need to mix more, and from childhood. Collins notes how Ireland has become a multi-cultural society, but feels there has been no change in how Travellers have been accepted.

Of discrimination, he says: “We feel the brunt of that and we’re going ‘mother of God, how are we going to survive in this country?’ We all have children. All people want is to raise their children as good, honest, strong adults.”

All I want people to [say] is alright, OK, there’s Michael Collins out there, he lives up in that house, we know he’s a Traveller and we respect he’s a member of the Traveller community. That’s all I want: a little respect. Everyone deserves an opportunity. Everyone needs an opportunity to be accepted.

He is “completely” against bare knuckle fighting, describing it as “part of our [Traveller] society… it is an internal issue and an issue we need to resolve ourselves. It can’t be resolved by settled people.” He believes gardaí should arrest bare-knuckle fighters.

“A number of years ago, it was a way of dealing with Traveller feuds. Now it’s not like that anymore.”

Traveller pride

The parts of his life he is most proud of? His family, doing a show that gets a good response, “when the Irish flag goes up in the Olympics and there’s a Traveller standing there with a silver or gold medal”; “hearing that young Travellers are in the guards, are teachers, solicitors - all those things are a move forward”.

He believes in the importance of good role models, showing how there are Travellers with a variety of roles in Irish society.

As he prepares to explore discrimination yet again on stage, Collins sends his condolences to the families of the Carrickmines victims.

“I think these people will need the help and support of Travellers and settled people all over the country and will need time to deal with the situation themselves. May God give them all a bed in heaven.”

Foxy is on at the Project Arts Centre. Preview Tuesday 27 October, tickets: €10. Opening night: Wednesday 28 October. Until Saturday, 7 November, 8.15pm, tickets: €16/14.  2.30pm matinee on Saturday 7 November, tickets: €14/12

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    Nov 14th 2017, 8:53 PM

    What about the crisis of bullying in SinnFein Peadair?

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    Nov 14th 2017, 8:56 PM

    @Dave Sherman: they have procedures in place aka kangaroo court.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:07 PM

    @Paul: Was the kangaroo court not when Enda Kenny used Dail privilege to act as judge and jury against people who had already been acquitted in a court of law?

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:08 PM

    @Dave Sherman: What about, what about, what about…

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:11 PM

    @Dermo Adams: nah the Kangaroo Court was when the provos subjected victims of sexual abuse to paramilitary courts

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:12 PM

    @Incognito: Hypocrite of the highest order that’s what.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:12 PM

    @Dermo Adams: who are u referring to?

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:51 PM

    and some people wonder why the Shinners have 13% of the vote. This hypocrisy might work in Norn Iron but not down here sunshine

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:03 PM

    @Dave Sherman:
    So all that is needed is for SF to be accused of something and everyone else can join in and do the same !!!.. I don’t think so Dave.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:03 PM

    @Dave Sherman: will u cut that out Jerry said it never happened

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:15 PM

    @Dave Sherman: is it just me or do all SF representatives look like older toerags

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:30 PM

    @Dave Sherman:
    I agree with you completely !!!!!!
    as a very long time member of
    Sinn Fèin I shall not be renewing
    my membership because of the intimidation and bullying I have
    Witnessed at grass roots level
    Even from yourself Peadar. !!!!!!!

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    Nov 14th 2017, 11:26 PM

    @Dave Sherman: Their Ard Fheis is coming up this weekend, Have to have something to Deflect the Sheep’s Attention from the widespread Bullying, Harassment and Intimidation going on around them and the fact that the partys vote ( in last few opinion polls ) is going down, down and down .. lol ..

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    Nov 15th 2017, 1:18 AM

    @For Connolly: Was ‘sunshine’ a Pink Floyd reference?

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:01 PM

    SF giving a moral lecture on bullying is a bit like bank executives giving a lecture on always putting the customer first…..Thoes with mortgage difficulties….

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:16 PM

    PMSL! Same way they like to think they’re a bunch of peacemakers

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:56 PM

    @Diarmuid: hilarious! Forgot to check the calendar, is today the first day of April?

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:58 PM

    @Diarmuid: Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Loser.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:14 PM

    @Diarmuid: I did. Unless he’s calling out the widely reported culture of bullying in SF, he’s a bland hypocrite. Much like SF going public on wanting to sell easter lillies on the same day their abject failure in makey uppey government was highlighted.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:17 PM

    @Diarmuid: “bringing it into talks” – suppose someone needed to represent that terrorist organisation while it was surrendering and handing over its weapons. Lucky for Jorry he got cushy British public sector jobs out of it.

    Diarmuid – have you been possessed by a evil ghost?

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    @Diarmuid: The new Diarmuid is Dermo Adams. If he wants to troll he shouldn’t verbatim his comments from this mornings defence of Gerry Adams.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:45 PM

    @Diarmuid: He brought about peace by stopping killing people. Bravo…….slow handclap.

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    @Honeybadger197: the Risen must have been banned…… must hurt the poor fella.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 8:55 PM

    Im more interested to know why Journal has refused to report his comments on 8th Amendment Committee……

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:01 PM

    @Paul: what comments? Care to elaborate? Genuinely curiosity.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:01 PM

    @Paul: Afraid of a kneecapping?

    They haven’t gone away you know!

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:10 PM

    @Geffrey Kane: he has called out the committee been pro abortion. SF have said his comments do not represent party position.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:30 PM

    @Paul: “he has called out the committee been pro abortion”

    Eh?

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    Nov 15th 2017, 1:26 AM

    @Paul: “being”

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    @Paul: “being” Of course they don’t represent the party position – they’re still pro-killing children in their mother’s wombs, much the same as ISIS philosophy really.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:14 PM

    A SF TD lecturing on bullying and harassment. I have heard it all. Have they no shame or integrity.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:18 PM

    I don’t support SF but I’m unconvinced that the problem of bullying and harassment in Ireland is exclusively confined to the SF Party.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:10 PM

    Lol these Shinners are a funny bunch

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:21 PM

    Start with your own party peadar,clean it up.until then sf have no credibility on the issue.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:25 PM

    Interesting, a senior SF td condemning bullying… they must be trying to deflect from their own issues

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:01 PM

    Peadar Toibin wishes to harrass and bully women who aren’t antichoice like him.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:58 PM

    Has Peadar got a soundbite in the widely reported culture of bullying in his own party? This must be like SF announcing Easter Lily sales on the same day the utter failure of their pretend governance of the North is exposed.

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    @CloneDiarmuid: just like the shinners? : )

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:25 PM

    A bit rich coming from him of all people. Fully appreciate that the Arts & Heritage sector has a major sexual harassment issue. But really, this is fake indignation from an anti-choice zealot who thinks women’s lives are no more important than the content of a discarded condom. He couldn’t give a toss, so to speak, about women’s rights.

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    @Emo101: you mean not pro–death for defenceless babies. Shinners may have stopped killing grown-ups but innocent children are still fair game for slaughter as far as they’re concerned.

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    @JMac: If you can’t tell the difference between an actual baby and sperm, read a biology book, not TheJournal.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:19 PM

    Special Communications Unit Mobilisation!

    Incoming!

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:32 PM

    @Jarlath Murphy: Yeah don’t think you need a SCU to call out utter SF hypocrisy.

    How many SF Councillors is that to have resigned or been sacked due to bullying now?

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:09 PM

    What a dufus!

    The calibre of shinner politician is farcical.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:30 PM

    the impersonating shinner bot who was banned a few years back?

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:34 PM

    @We’re Jammin’: Yeah I was trolled by a shinner bot with the same name in the past. Thankfully he/she was banned. Why do you care Diarmuid?

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:38 PM

    Hi everyone,

    Please ignore the clone account above. As you can see from the ’5Y’ (5 year contributor) symbol under my name, this is the original.

    I will be reporting the above account in the morning.

    Best wishes

    WJ

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:48 PM

    @We’re Jammin’: looks like one of the guilty shinner bots is back ^

    Any idea how a different photo and proper grammar on a Bob Marley song is a clone?

    PMSL!

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:49 PM

    @were jammin: so you have we’re jamming, For Connolly, the Risen and Francis McCarthy? How do you keep up?

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:49 PM

    @Jane: sorry were jammin

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:52 PM

    @were jammin: It really is disrespectful to contributors who just want to comment and discuss the actual article above.

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    @Jane: You’re fine Jane. It’s easy to get mixed up with the abuses of posting privileges that are happening around these parts all too often.

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    @Jane: me thinks the “Risen” was banned.

    Pfizer took an action for copyright infringement : )

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:29 PM

    ah I get it now – Jammin’s “Risen” was banned so he set up clone accounts to troll Diarmuid, but is offended by supposed clone accounts

    trying to be a bully on an article about shinner bullying : )

    confused little shinner : )

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:39 PM

    @For Connolly: when you see ‘good lad’ you’ll know it’s him

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    @Diarmuid: a clone account angry about clone accounts PMSL : )

    Silly little shinner : )

    Good lad : )

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:08 PM

    Somebody really needs to put some sort of filter on this site to prevent children from posting.

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:12 PM

    No bullying in Sinn Fein If this is all you have to speak on you are overpaid for doing nothing but making a fool of yourself

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    Nov 14th 2017, 11:13 PM

    The words “Deflection and Distraction” comes to mind … Also the expression “Titanium Bulletproof Necks” also comes to mind with any reps from Gerry Adams party accusing others of Bullying or Intimidation/Harassment … Concentrate on sorting out their own house first, before trying to Deflect peoples attention towards other peoples houses …

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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:08 PM

    People in glasshouses should not fire stones ,i am against all forms of bullying ,be it political ,social or economic .

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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:16 PM

    he’s a looker.

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    Nov 15th 2017, 3:26 AM

    You have to wonder about people who attack Sinn Féin (no I am not a member), rather than address the serious issue Deputy Tobín aided. They seem to be like the judges who give suspended or lenient sentences to men who beat and brutalise women….. a very disturbing mindset

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    Nov 15th 2017, 1:32 AM

    Why is an intelligent and talented man like Peadar focusing on such relatively trivial nonsense?

    Sinn Fein need to get off the hard left Utopian bandwagon and become more pragmatic and inclusive….

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    Nov 15th 2017, 7:03 AM

    There are similar issues of abuse of power in other state-funded bodies, such as within the health service. I find this very disappointing in this day and age. You’d think we’d have learned from all of the past cover-ups in this country.

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