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Two thirds of the country are against paying higher insurance premiums in order to help flood victims

The latest Claire Byrne Live / Amárach poll suggests that a levy on premiums would not be a popular move with the electorate.

9/12/2015 Storm Desmond Flooding Warnings Sasko Lazarov / Rollingnews.ie Sasko Lazarov / Rollingnews.ie / Rollingnews.ie

THE MAJORITY OF Irish people are not willing to pay higher insurance premiums in order to support flood victims.

The findings of a Claire Byrne Live/Amárach Research poll found that 60% of those polled would not be prepared to pay a higher insurance premium.

23% of people would be willing to do so, while 17% of those polled did not know.

Much of Munster, the west, and the midlands have been devastated by the torrential storms which have hit the country since the beginning of December.

The percentages seen in response to the poll question do not vary much when split on gender lines.

Indeed the most significant split from the overall findings occurs in the 55-plus age group where 29% of those polled were willing to pay a higher premium in order to aid flood victims.

When split across geographical regions, Dublin residents showed the most enthusiasm for paying a higher premium in response to the question.

14/12/2015. Floods Shannonbridge. The swollen Shan Eamonn Farrell / Rollingnews.ie Eamonn Farrell / Rollingnews.ie / Rollingnews.ie

25% of urban-dwelling Dubliners would be willing to pay an increased premium, while just 17% of those polled in Ulster and Connacht would be prepared to do so.

A figure of €100 million has been placed on the estimated cost of repairing roads damaged in the recent stormy weather alone.

A levy on insurance premiums is one of the solutions that has been mooted as regards helping those who have been stricken by the huge flooding seen in recent times.

Last week Insurance Ireland, the body representing insurers in Ireland, said that building adequate flood defences is the only way to deal with the problem.

They added further that building such defences is the government’s responsibility, not theirs.

Read: One way to help stop floods? Don’t let developers build on flood plains

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    May 24th 2018, 12:01 PM

    If they didn’t hide the outcomes to save their own mistakes than it should not have been a problem. Dishonesty from the HSE is the problem.

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    May 24th 2018, 12:27 PM

    @Hans Vos: no the problem, as with cervical screening is that NO test is 100% accurate and you will always have false negatives. It’s nobody’s ‘fault’.

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    May 24th 2018, 12:52 PM

    @Ciaran Bolger: I agree that no test is 100% accurate. But hiding the results so woman didn’t know their test was suspicious and ultimately ended up in full blown cancers was.

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    May 24th 2018, 1:17 PM

    @Ciaran Bolger: false negatives might be nobody’s fault but covering up certainly was somebody’s fault.

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    May 24th 2018, 2:17 PM

    @Hans Vos: In a blame culture like ours, informing a patient of a false negative will likely result in a legal action and collapse of the service- thats what they were afraid of , and that is what is going to happen.

    The breast screening program was hit with 15 solicitors letters- best course of action would be to stop “look back” audits -to protect the programs.

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    Mute Hans Vos
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    May 24th 2018, 2:41 PM

    @paul kelly: So you saying that women who are in the past willingly misleaded can’t have their rights executed?

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    May 24th 2018, 4:20 PM

    @Hans Vos:
    Of course you can , it just will cost millions.

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    May 24th 2018, 4:45 PM

    @paul kelly: Don’t you think that being honest from the beginning could have avoided all the hassle. That’s the problem with the HSE . There are people, and don’t get me wrong not everybody, who think that they are more important than the truth. When it’s going wrong than they blame : 1 Somebody else.
    2 Politics
    .3 The system.
    4 The cost.
    And I can get on and on but they never blame them self.

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    May 24th 2018, 5:57 PM

    @Hans Vos: No, being honest with a look back audit showing the screen to be a false negative will lead to a substantial payout.

    Solicitors are looking at a definite new income stream.

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    May 24th 2018, 7:13 PM

    @paul kelly: contrary to you I like to be honest.

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    May 24th 2018, 7:18 PM

    @Hans Vos: Oh I believe honesty is the ideal , but it will cost hundreds of millions, the collapse of screning and the deaths of far more women.

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    May 25th 2018, 9:34 PM

    @paul kelly:
    Make that 16 from Monday next. There will be no collapse of the service that’s scaremongering. I never knew there was a look back service nobody ever mentioned it OR A REVIEW

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    Mute Jenny Kelleher
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    May 24th 2018, 12:01 PM

    I really hope that this is not:

    A) Another case of our healthcare system failing women
    B) People jumping on the bandwagon hoping to make a few euro!

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    May 24th 2018, 2:18 PM

    @Jenny Kelleher: I have to disagree with your statement about looking for a few quid… in most cases including the cervical cancer cases the hse deny everything and in fact try to cover up what has happened…. nobody goes to jail, nobody is held responsible… the only retribution these people receive is a pay out… and let me tell you that it’s not an easy decision to make about bringing a case because it is a long and very difficult process.. and is even more so difficult when all you can think is,what if people think I’m doing this just for money !!

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    May 24th 2018, 2:36 PM

    @Tommy Byrne: There was no cover up. There were false negative results discovered retrospectively (an inevitable feature of any screening programme), some women were told of this others weren’t due to failure of HSE procedures. There is no suggestion that the women’s outcomes were adversely affected as the prior false negatives were only discovered on review after a diagnosis of cancer had been made. The lawsuits pertain to the false negatives themselves. If a situation emerges where there are payouts for every false negative result then the screening programmes will be driven to bankruptcy as false negatives are an inherent statistical feature of large scale screening programmes.

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    May 24th 2018, 2:55 PM

    @Damon16: in the cervical cancer cases it most definitely was a cover up … and who is to say there isn’t something similar happening here ? We don’t know the facts of any of the future cases that may come of this. All we are hearing is one side of the story so far… so to judge people as only in it for a few quid is very wrong

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    May 25th 2018, 9:20 PM

    @Tommy Byrne:
    Indeed ..very wrong

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    Mute Damon16
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    May 24th 2018, 12:49 PM

    The medical profession and the Gov need to do a better job explaining to the public the difference between a screening test and a diagnostic test. A screening test such as breast check will invariably have some false negatives results. The Gov need to introduce legislation capping or limiting claims in the context of screening programmes. If they don’t the HSE is the HSE are going to stop running screening tests and or not bring in new screening tests due to legal exposure. This will cost many lives.

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    Mute Fiona Fitzgerald
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    May 24th 2018, 2:16 PM

    Alternatively, push for a national Irish healthcare system that looks after patients to internationally recognised, excellent standards. Adopt a class action suit with one aim; justice and improved medical standards. Don’t force individuals to take individual cases and slog through alone. Too many people end up going abroad – men who need hip replacements badly, and have been waiting in pain on long lists, for example. Don’t inflict symphysiotomy on women while the rest of the world is not crippling their own citizens with decades-old clumsy practices. Don’t sweep the outcomes under the carpet until a few suffering families have to spend all their resources to highlight real and ongoing issues and appeal to higher courts separately until they die and the files are closed.

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    Mute Sean Ryan
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    May 24th 2018, 12:20 PM

    There are lots of pros and cons to screening. Some medics (and not crackpots) would argue against most kinds of screening and a lot of unnecessary screening takes places privately (ie a money spinner). Total transparency and full disclosures are needed in public and private health care.

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    Mute Michael Kavanagh
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    May 24th 2018, 12:32 PM

    Do they not have ambulances to chase?

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    May 24th 2018, 1:31 PM

    It’s no good in trying to shift the blame for problem onto women who had smear checks carried out on systemic failure on the HSE full stop.

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    May 24th 2018, 2:34 PM

    The circus continues with the legal profession rubbing their hands with glee ,the government have to take responsibility ,this has been kept back from the media to prevent the effects it may have on the referendum .again no accountability ,put your trust in LEO and simon everything will just be fine

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    May 24th 2018, 12:31 PM

    My god,these people think the public are fools.

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    May 24th 2018, 2:19 PM

    @@mdmak33: Clearly some are.

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    May 24th 2018, 7:23 PM

    Where were the tests carried out?
    Were they the cheapest option?

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    May 24th 2018, 7:51 PM

    @The Irish Bull: tested in Ireland and results read in Ireland. Totally different process to cervical screening.

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