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Leon Farrell

If you make a trivial complaint against gardaí, it's unlikely you'll be prosecuted

Just 26 files in relation to bogus complaints have been sent to the DPP in the last ten years.

THE GARDA OMBUDSMAN has said the success rate for prosecuting people over vexatious complaints against gardaí is “appalling”.

Speaking to garda superintendents at their annual conference in Naas today, Judge Mary Ellen Ring said GSOC does send files to the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions in these cases but many of them come back with no prosecution. In the almost ten years the ombudsman has been in operation, just 26 files have been sent to the DPP in relation to these kinds of complaints.

Of those 26, 11 went to court and six of those were convicted, receiving either a fine, community service or a custodial sentence.

Comparing it to prosecuting people for perjury in the courts, she said it can be “difficult to prove”. Ring said there is one such case before the courts at the moment, with another due to begin tomorrow.

When asked about the issue of “serial complainers”, Ring said her office receives a high number of complaints online, and many of them come in at night. She suggested reverting to only accepting complaints by post may discourage people from sending nuisance complaints.

Rude

In her speech to delegates at the conference, Ring said GSOC should “not be doing the work of gardaí” when it comes to discipline. Around one in ten complaints relate to members allegedly being rude to a person. These issues could be quickly resolved in many cases, she said, with an explanation or apology from a senior member at a local station.

What is wrong with stepping up and saying, “I am sorry you appear to have had a bad encounter and here is what I am going to do?”. If I have a bad encounter with staff on a shop floor I go to the manager and make my complaint. A good manager will tell me that he or she is sorry I had a bad experience, undertake to speak to the person involved, express the hope it hasn’t put me off shopping in the store in the future and perhaps offer me a cup of tea as I appear to be upset.

Ring said she believed members of the public who make complaints about gardaí would also feel better if they could hear that the person in question was to receive further training to address their issues.

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    Mute Gee Gach Duine
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    Jun 29th 2014, 10:24 AM

    Try leaving your phone in your pocket and you might actually see someone.

    Although I am not a doctor so please don’t take this as medical advice.

    Actually do, do take this as medical advice.

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    Mute Niall H
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    Jun 29th 2014, 10:31 AM

    Cool app but has it really come to the stage where we’re too socially inept to bloody chat somebody up in a nightclub, instead we have to do it hiding behind a screen??!

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    Mute Diarmuid
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    Jun 29th 2014, 11:10 AM

    Add a function to register your cloakroom ticket.. and a taser function to fend off s€umbags.. and an ID function where the club can validate your age on first visit (no need for subsequent ID documentation).. and a “pint of water” reminder after your 5th jaeger.. and a DJ music request function.. and a broken glass/pile of sick warning function.. and a “Will ya shift me mate?” function.. and a “No thanks, I’ll wash my own hands” automated voice button.. then cut me in on the profits!

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    Mute Jim
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    Jun 29th 2014, 10:31 AM

    Sounds like something that could take off
    Ill send a wink to me wife and see if see buys me a drink
    Cheers

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    Mute Graham Carrick
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    Jun 29th 2014, 11:31 AM

    If it sends you a reminder of her name at 8 the next morning then this is a winner! Cut out the rest of the needless crap.

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    Mute TOP CAT
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    Jun 29th 2014, 10:37 AM

    I use the Vino application to get the best results with the ladies…

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    Mute Seamus Kirby
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    Jun 29th 2014, 10:27 AM

    Fix your headline. Grammar and spelling as good as ever on this site!

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    Mute James Darby
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    Jun 29th 2014, 10:45 AM

    Who’s Will?

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    Mute Andrea Rock Massey
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    Jun 29th 2014, 11:14 AM

    Imagine going through all of this, selecting your venue having winked at someone you fancy, pre ordered your drink etc etc and then the doorman doesn’t let you in.

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    Mute Patrick
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    Jun 29th 2014, 11:40 AM

    It’s dehumanising the life experience. Young people are lacking in people skills now. I can see a future growth in an area that teaches people social skills as a result of their whole social life being conducted on a phone.

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    Mute GATHERINGYOURMONEY14
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    Jun 29th 2014, 12:02 PM

    What next?
    A riding App?

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    Mute Melanie Dunne
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    Jun 29th 2014, 2:17 PM

    You mean tindr?

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    Mute GATHERINGYOURMONEY14
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    Jun 29th 2014, 9:57 PM

    Please send me the link : )

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    Mute The Hooded Biscuit
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    Jun 29th 2014, 11:14 AM

    Don’t know who has power in their phone to be using these apps in nightclubs

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    Mute Hung Xi
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    Jun 29th 2014, 2:59 PM

    Seeing people staring at their phones on a night out is a real old annoyance for me. When I see free wifi on display I go elsewhere.

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    Mute Michael Connors
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    Jun 29th 2014, 11:17 AM

    A guy approached me a few years ago to work on something like this. Perhaps I should have said yes.
    Ah well.

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    Mute Sean Hyland
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    Jun 29th 2014, 12:58 PM

    Think we’re in a bit of an app bubble. Tons have launched this year and most seem to be four square type spin offs.

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    Mute Mark Boyle
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    Jun 29th 2014, 1:48 PM

    Dunno about the app but the website appears to send your credit card details across the internet without any encryption or protection. Classy.

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    Mute peter
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    Jun 29th 2014, 10:30 AM

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/tag/kieran-boylan/

    Seems you don’t go to jail for heroin in Drogheda.

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    Mute David
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    Jun 29th 2014, 12:10 PM

    Seems you’ve got the wrong story.

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    Mute Paddy Herlihy
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    Jun 30th 2014, 9:57 AM

    I work on the other side of the bar and have been taking venoo payments for the past couple of months.. I find it to be much quicker than someone using their card which for anyone who works behind the bar knows it’s very tedious.. the fact that you can lodge a predetermined amount into your account is also very useful as you don’t overspend, which for me happens all too regularly.. the 15% discount is a nice touch too.. serious potential here.

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    Jun 29th 2014, 3:21 PM

    Crapp

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    Mute The Truth Hurts
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    Jun 29th 2014, 4:59 PM

    Ring a taxi? Bahahahahahahahahaha

    They clearly have never seen the queue on Harcourt St any night of the week or even outside some pubs I frequent in….

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    Mute Gary Mason
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    Jun 29th 2014, 6:01 PM

    The truth hurts

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