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'Examining the dress code of other parliaments is ridiculous'

The dress attire of politicians in the Dáil was raised at a recent committee meeting.

WHAT TDS WEAR in Leinster House should not be adjudicated on by the Dáil, according to AAA-PBP TD Brid Smith.

Smith, who recently wore a Repeal the Eighth jumper in the Dáil, also sits on the Oireachtas committee on procedures and privileges.

It was reported last week that this committee is to consider implementing a dress code for TDs and Senators.

At last week’s meeting, an item was on the agenda to deal with a complaint made about the appearance of some Dáil members.

The committee was told by Ceann Comhairle Seán Ó Fearghaíl the attire of parliamentarians was a source of constant complaint from members of the public.

It’s been reported that it was agreed at the meeting that library and research staff are to examine other parliaments to assess what dress codes are in place in other countries.

However, it’s understood there were objections to this measure and nothing was agreed to take it further.

“What someone likes or chooses to wear is subjective. There are hundreds of parliaments around the world. For example, in Papua New Guinea’s parliament, they hardly wear anything,” said Smith.

She said to research what other parliamentarians wear around the world would serve no purpose, stating the dress code in some countries would not be the same as in western Europe. “It’s ridiculous, it’s entirely subjective,” she added.

The introduction of a dress code in the Dáil has been proposed a number of times in recent years.

Dáil rules state members should dress “in a manner that reflects the dignity of the House”.

The closest a dress code came to being implemented was in 2011 when a proposal was drafted to request TDs and Senators to wear appropriate business attire, but the proposal was rejected.

However, it’s understood that just recently some foreign visitors to the Dáil made passing comments about the dress of some TDs, stating they were “surprised” about the attire worn in the chamber.

Last week’s committee also discussed the wearing of emblems and party political badges in Leinster House.

On Budget day, Fianna Fáil’s Fiona O’Loughlin was asked to remove a badge she was wearing on her lapel.

The badge was to raise awareness that it was International Day of the Girl. She told TheJournal.ie that earlier that day she had been at Plan Ireland’s launch event. She was wearing the badge on her jacket to raise awareness, when she was asked to remove it, which she did.

24/2/2016 General Election Campaigns Starts Fianna Fáil's Fiona O'Loughlin, Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin and Ceann Comhairle Sean O'Fhearghail. Eamonn Farrell Eamonn Farrell

It wasn’t until afterwards did O’Loughlin think to raise the matter and wrote a letter of complaint to the Ceann Comhairle.

She was later told by the Ó Fearghaíl that there had been a mistake and it was wrong for her to be asked to take it off.

O’Loughlin said she wore the badge in the Dáil the next day, but said it does raise the issue of consistency.

It’s not about being right or wrong, or whether you agree with it or not – it is about consistency of the rules. .

“I do feel people should dress appropriately in the chamber,” said O’Loughlin.

“I personally don’t feel men should have to wear a tie and jacket but it is important to remember that we are all representatives of our constituents and our country.”

O’Loughlin said she is not saying what should be allowed or not allowed be worn – but said she is merely calling for consistency of rules.

“If there are going to be rules, they should be for everybody. If those in the press gallery have to adhere to dress rules, why does that mean the elected representatives shouldn’t,” she asked.

11/4/2016. Dail Scenes Sinn Fein's Louise O'Reilly says she wears her Repeal the Eighth badge everyday. RollingNews.ie RollingNews.ie

Louise O’Reilly, who wears her Repeal the Eighth badge in the Dáil every day, said she has never been asked to remove it, though she said she has been told by some that she may be approached to do so.

She said a number of TDs in the Dáil have asked her what the badge represents and she is only too happy to inform them.

The Sinn Féin TD said she believes she hasn’t been approached to remove it as people know there would be a “hoo haa” about it if they tried.

She said the debate about a dress code is “ridiculous”.

I think that when the day comes that people are more concerned about what politicians are wearing in the Dáil rather than the laws they are implementing then it is a very sad day for Ireland.

She said if the debate opens up and there are restrictions about what can and cannot be worn in the Dáil she questioned where would it end.

The Sinn Féin TD said had someone not raised this issue at the Oireachtas committee on procedures and privileges she did not think the Ceann Comhairle would be overly concerned about it.

O’Reilly said she did not feel it was correct to discipline any of the AAA-PBP members for wearing the Repeal jumpers as she said it was all done very subtly. “They didn’t get up and shout and rip off their jackets,” she said.

Smith echoed the O’Reilly’s opinion that if you begin to discuss logos and emblems, like the Repeal jumper, where does it end.

“Do we discuss the Easter Lily and the pioneer pin?”

Read: Repeal the Eighth campaigners call for referendum within 12 months>

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    Apr 8th 2021, 8:59 PM

    That has to be the longest article I didn’t read.

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    Apr 9th 2021, 11:57 AM

    @Jason Ebbs: exactly what they want. The headline will stick in your mind though.

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    Mute Mark O'Donohoe
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    Apr 8th 2021, 9:16 PM

    Seaspiracy on Netflix.
    Stunned…..
    https://g.co/kgs/Us1NVr

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    Apr 8th 2021, 10:11 PM

    @Mark O’Donohoe: just watched this – no more fish for me!

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    Apr 8th 2021, 11:24 PM

    @Patricia: pretty sad but to be honest if you watch any documentary on industrial farmed produce from any source (meet, poultry, fish) you would be left wondering what you would feel comfortable eating.

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    Apr 9th 2021, 12:11 AM

    @John Egan: vegetables, grains, nuts, seeds and very happy and healthy doing so

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    Apr 9th 2021, 9:22 AM

    @Aedín: im sure it is, would 6 billion people be able to do the same

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    Apr 10th 2021, 10:46 PM

    @Mark O’Donohoe: I haven’t eaten a morsel of meat or fish since I watched that, followed by conspiracy. I’m done.

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    Apr 8th 2021, 9:34 PM

    Can we not have the small Irish boat as a symbol on fish products, like the guaranteed Irish symbol.
    Give people the choice to pay a bit more for a more sustainable fishing method.
    Ultimately, only a boycott on fish will force the fishing industry and government to implement changes.

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    Apr 10th 2021, 10:48 PM

    @Ian Downes: that’s an ideal solution. Sadly the industry is anything but ideal. Cant see it happening unless the whole industry as it is collapses.

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    Apr 8th 2021, 9:14 PM

    The fishing industry is always left behind. Lost most of the rights coming into Europe because we didn’t know/ want what we had.
    Now, an advanced society realise what we let go.
    Totally overfishing by everyone. The negotiations come up every December and the only sector that looses out every year are the fish

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    Apr 8th 2021, 8:53 PM

    Great article

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    Apr 8th 2021, 10:30 PM

    I see this rag isn’t happy the EU have started to plunder our waters.

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    Apr 9th 2021, 5:35 AM

    @HonestGrump: The plundering of our waters began a long time ago

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    Apr 8th 2021, 10:21 PM

    Last year decided to go “meet free Mondays” where I’d have veg only… apparently a kilo of meat uses like a thousand litres of water. Then moved to “fish free Fridays” as I knew about over fishing. Will I have a world changing impact? Probably not..but if I can help a lil bit, without drastically changing my life? I’ll give it go!
    (This is coming from a prepper btw)

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    Apr 8th 2021, 10:54 PM

    @The Kev in Kevlar: you need to learn how to spell before you can comment. The standard of English and commentators is very poor on this website. Including reporters. Just take moment reread and then publish

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    Apr 9th 2021, 12:13 AM

    @The Kev in Kevlar: as they say.. lots of people doing they’re best imperfectly rather than a few doing things perfectly

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    Apr 9th 2021, 12:14 AM

    @Aedín: **** their best

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    Apr 9th 2021, 12:31 AM

    @Keith Rankin: hahaha you come at me for spelling rather that my point? Eat you troll food and go back under your bridge…try harder next time darling

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    Apr 9th 2021, 12:32 AM

    @Aedín: underrated comment, full credit

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    Apr 8th 2021, 9:57 PM

    Dont eat fish tis full of plastic.

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    Apr 8th 2021, 10:22 PM

    Also, after Fukushima went (literally) nuclear, the sheer amount of chemicals is the Pacific,now leaching into the Atlantic has jumped a lot…

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    Apr 9th 2021, 9:41 AM

    Seaspiracy on Netflix well worth a look. I won’t be eating fish anymore. The impact fishing is having on stocks, other animals and even the climate is substantial. Very long article but very good!

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