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TODAY MARKS 100 days since the general election. No, we’re not kidding.
If it seems like it went by quite quickly, remember that the first 70 days or so were spent trying to come up with a government.
Well things are (relatively) back to normal now as the Dáil settles down to business. Aside from the enormous summer break that may yet come to pass.
Still, the 32nd Dáil contains an absolute cavalcade of first-time TDs. Almost a third of the 158 deputies are new to the lower house of parliament (if not Leinster House itself). Have you wondered how they’re settling into their new positions?
We wondered that too. So we asked them. Here’s what some of them had to say.
One thing you wouldn’t have expected about being a TD?
I understand now why the Dáil chamber is often empty, something which horrifies most decent people. Broadly speaking you know when you are expected to speak, so it is sensible to be in your office doing other work watching the live feed in the meantime, even if it looks dreadful from the outside. Before I understood this I sat for hours waiting to be called to speak, particularly on the night of the mental health debate - Bríd Smith (Anti Austerity Alliance/People Before Profit, Dublin South Central)
How supportive people have been towards me. There has been so much anger towards political figures in recent years that the genuine support I’ve received is something that kind of takes me by surprise - Shane Cassells (Fianna Fáil, Meath West)
It’s like going from the third division straight into the Premiership. There’s so much more of a focus on you here. It’s a very, very different animal from the council - Gino Kenny (Anti Austerity Alliance/People Before Profit, Dublin Mid-West)
While I expected them, the extent of the late and long hours spent sometimes in Leinster House, on constituency work and the increased demands on my time within the party since being elected. Also the degree of good will and messages of encouragement I have received from people who I don’t know - Catherine Martin (Green Party, Dublin Rathdown)
The delay in getting business up and running in our Dáil. Things taking days when a few minutes could sort them - Michael Collins (Independent, Cork South-West)
TDs across parties work together behind the scenes on many policy issues both locally and nationally. This is something that mightn’t be evident or visible from those watching the activities in the Dáil chamber. It’s refreshing to experience - Jack Chambers (Fianna Fáil, Dublin West)
I wouldn’t have anticipated that voting is such a slow process - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire (Sinn Féin, Cork South-Central)
For me the biggest change is there’s a lot less chance to speak compared to the Seanad, where there’s less people but more speaking time. Here you have to wait for priority questions, and you have to take your chance when it comes - David Cullinane (ex Sinn Féin Senator, Waterford)
On problems maintaining your personal life…
I’ve always tried to keep a good balance and I’m keen to make sure I maintain my normal routine. I’m no different just because I’ve become a TD. And if I thought I was I’d get a fair kick in the arse from the people around me. The toughest thing for me is the time spent away from family due to the demands on your time outside of normal hours. I have three young children so it’s hard on them that a lot of my evenings are taken up during the week - Shane Cassells
No. As my husband is a county councillor he has a great understanding of political life and he gives me tremendous family support too - Catherine Martin
Yes. Being involved in the programme for government meant I got a lot of media attention which has made me very much recognised. I have little time with family during important events - Michael Collins
There are problems to an extent, and certainly you do get recognised more, but thankfully I have found that when I am socialising people generally respect that. It does have an impact on things that would have been a big part of your life. I often miss hurling training because of meetings or being in Dublin, or I was a Scout Leader and again, due to being in Dublin mid-week, it means I have had to take a step back. But I expected that. The role has to come first, and it’s a huge privilege and honour to have that role. I don’t have children or a partner, so in that regard it hasn’t suffered greatly - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
Other stuff in my life is very much on hold for now. If I am not in the Dáil I am busy moving constituency office and visiting people who need my help - Bríd Smith
On mixing with other TDs
You might have a coffee with somebody for 10 minutes during the day but there is so much to do you really don’t have a chance to socialise. The legendary stories of the Dáil bar don’t seem to be replicated in the modern political world. I wouldn’t be staying up during the week like the TDs from down the country so I’m probably missing out on that side - Shane Cassells
I’m not sure as I always go home straight away at the end of the day to my family. But at lunch time in the canteen TDs from all parties dine with each other. I’ve had many enjoyable conversations with TDs and Senators from various parties - Catherine Martin
There’s little or no mixing. Seeing as I object to there being a Dáil bar I don’t drink in the bar which means I won’t be meeting my fellow politicians socially as often as others - Michael Collins
There’s not a great deal. Around the buildings, and during votes and things like that of course there is chat and mixing, but there isn’t very much outside of Leinster House so far as I can see - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
The food in the canteen is very good, I haven’t been to the restaurant or bar though - Bríd Smith
I’d say hello to anyone in the Dail. It’s like a bear pit though. I would never make any personal remarks about anyone, or on someone’s appearance. I hate that stuff - Gino Kenny
Getting used to Leinster House
I reckon it’ll take maybe a year and a half before you get a real feel for it. At the start I was very daunted, then it became like any other building. The first time you’re in the chamber I was a bit struck you know. It’s surreal seeing all that you’d normally see on TV and you’re in the middle of it - Gino Kenny
Honestly, my initial impressions have been unexpectedly underwhelming. Like for instance the size of the chamber. I only ever saw it on TV before so my first impression was that it was really small. Coupled with that was a feeling of familiarity with all the famous players, like Enda Kenny, Micheál Martin, Gerry Adams. Most likely that comes from TV recognition. So it wasn’t like ‘oh my God there’s Gerry Adams’. And I’ve become less and less impressed as time goes on to be honest - Bríd Smith
I’m not even halfway there to getting used to it! - Shane Cassells
I’m not sure I’m fully used to being there yet - Catherine Martin
I’m still getting used of it, but since the formation of a government it’s getting much better - Michael Collins
I have the advantage of having worked here for close to three years, which meant that I was familiar with the building, and had a general understanding of the procedures and set up in the Dáíl, so it maybe didn’t take that long. But of course, it’s a different thing being in the chamber, especially the first few times, and having to get up and speak and so on - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
Travelling to and from work
It varies. I’ve travelled by train and occasionally have travelled up with Jonathan O’Brien, (also a Cork Sinn Féin TD). The train is useful for reading briefing papers, reports and documents, as telephone and wifi signal aren’t always the best - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
It takes five hours in the car. I spend the time on my hands-free talking to my staff and keeping up to speed on happenings in west Cork - Michael Collins
If I am dropping my children to school then I have to drive in to Leinster House to ensure I arrive on time for 10.30am. Otherwise I get the bus. It takes about 45 minutes. I listen to the radio on my way in - Catherine Martin
It takes about an hour by car and the time is spent listening to my local radio political programme – the Michael Reade show - Shane Cassells
On the bike. It’s about 13 kilometres each way, so maybe a half an hour to get in - Gino Kenny
The best advice you’ve heard…
Don’t get caught in the bubble of Leinster House - Shane Cassells
A few ex-TDs have said to try to enjoy it. I think it’s good advice, it’s like anything new, you could detest it. I’m trying to enjoy it, I’ll smile as much as possible - Gino Kenny
Take your time to adjust to life in Leinster House and reserve plenty of time for family - Catherine Martin
Remember who put you there - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
I’ve been listening to senior politicians on a number of issues, but some advice I got many years ago from a wise man I think is best – “say little first but listen” - Michael Collins
What frustrates you about the Dáil
The slow pace can be really, really difficult. Like I’m prepared for it, I know that in politics things can be excruciatingly slow. I want to try and concentrate on two or three things that I can change, that’s what kept me going on the council. But it could drive you insane with all the talking. I want to see something done at the end of the day - Gino Kenny
The most frustrating thing is the feeling of not getting things done or completed but hopefully that will change. I feel like I am working very hard, I usually do, but achieving less than normal. I am surprised how much time is wasted running from building to building, queuing up to vote and also trying to interpret the agenda and timing - Bríd Smith
The procedures of the chamber and how so much time is wasted on nonsensical stuff. It took two hours of walking through lobbies to try and elect the Leas Ceann Comhairle and we still didn’t get a result at the end of it. Pure madness - Shane Cassells
The time it took to form a government - Catherine Martin
The six or seven weeks after the election were deeply frustrating as a new TD, You’re full of energy and enthusiasm and ideas, and you have a desire to make a contribution and raise the issues that were raised with you on the doors, but in many ways we were frustrated in that. I think much more debate on legislation and motions could have been facilitated during that period - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
The poor opportunities for independent TDs to speak in the Dail as speaking times are eaten up by the leaders. Also the difficulty of getting accommodation up in Dublin - Michael Collins
Pleasant surprises?
The way all staff are most helpful right throughout the Dáil - Michael Collins
The genuine warmth of people around the constituency who are willing you to do well. Goes against the popular belief that people want to see you fail - Shane Cassells
Probably how close it is to what I had anticipated it being, maybe from having worked there before. What’s also noticeable the prompt response you get from officials as a TD, compared to being a councillor - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
The positive reaction I received to my maiden speech - Catherine Martin
People stopping you in the street. That gives me that bit of hope. It’s what keeps me going - Gino Kenny
The staff around the Dáil are really sound and extremely helpful and cheerful, given that they are dealing daily with those who cut their pay and pensions while maintaining a high standard of living for themselves. One of the things that people outside the Dail really enjoy, like local people I work with or Luas strikers I am supporting or even just friends, is to be invited in to have a gawk at the chamber, to witness what goes on and to take a short tour of the historical building. I think that is a good thing - Bríd Smith
On getting some sleep…
I sleep well enough still, it varies but I still usually manage a reasonable night’s sleep. I anticipate that things may yet get much, much busier though - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
Seven hours is what I aim for. It all depends on whether or not there’s a decent row on Vincent Browne and whether I stay up to watch it - Shane Cassells
I sleep well but I work late and get about five hours a night - Michael Collins
Six or seven hours - Catherine Martin
Has it been worth it?
Every single bit of it! - Shane Cassells
Yes I wouldn’t give it up for anything. Being involved in the programme for government has been a huge benefit for me and my constituents - Michael Collins
It’s still really too early to tell, it’s already been a great opportunity to be a voice for the people who elected me, but I want to measure my time as a TD by what I achieve, and thus far it has been difficult to achieve much due to the slow pace of things. However, it is great being part of such a strong team of capable Sinn Féin TDs, from diverse backgrounds. So it has been worth it, to be a part of that - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
Totally - Catherine Martin
Some mornings I wonder do I want to be here. I’m not an office person. I like being out and about, chatting, knocking on doors. I have difficulties doing this. But then I know I’m making a difference - Gino Kenny
Important one this – what does an Oireachtas pay slip look like?
It’s just a very ordinary A4 thing. I got my first one last week - Gino Kenny
A hell of a lot healthier than any payslip from my days as a journalist - Shane Cassells
The pay is enormous and I honestly am annoyed with TDs that don’t acknowledge this – like those TDs who criticised the Luas drivers for fighting to stop lowering the starting rate of their pay to €29,000 while the TDs start on €87,000. And yes we pay a lot over in tax but the same applies to lowly paid teachers and nurses - Bríd Smith (AAA / PBP TDs take home the average industrial wage and use the remainder to fund campaigns in their constituency)
Because my family, like many others, is part of that negative equity generation, I consider myself very fortunate. Also, it assists me to pay back time and money spent on getting elected. It’s a sense of relief - Catherine Martin
Getting paid pays the bills, although I was being taxed at a very high rate and I am trying to sort that out now. My expenses are high as I am the TD living furthest from the Dáil but hotel rooms here in Dublin are hugely expensive also - Michael Collins
What’s the pace like in Leinster House?
Tuesday to Thursday is quite busy when the Dáil sits. That’s the part I have to adapt to. In here you do less because you’re here. It’s a learning curve - Gino Kenny
The day just goes by in the blink of an eye. You have to be really disciplined to make sure you accomplish all you set out for the day - Shane Cassells
The day never seems long enough. There is so much to do and there is nothing like getting things done for both the people of West Cork and for our country also - Michael Collins
The pace of life since becoming a TD is absolutely frenetic. But the most frenetic is the Dáil itself. “Do this, respond to that, speak on the other, read this – no actually the schedule is changed, go to the chamber now and speak and get your PQs in this morning, no actually go to the plinth or Buswells for a media event” - Bríd Smith
Frantic! Time flies in there. 10 hours can feel like 10 minutes - Catherine Martin
It has been erratic. The first few weeks were particularly frustrating, sittings which had no outcome, and a lack of ability to discuss and debate the motions and legislation we were elected to discuss. Recent weeks have been much, much better, and days can certainly go by very quickly, and I would anticipate that when the committees get up and running that will be even more the case. You don’t mind spending long days in that way - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
Those lovely Dáil bars, and the Dáil gym
I haven’t been to the restaurant or bar. When we were without a government but frequently voting for Taoiseach, usually late at night, a shocking proportion of TDs spent most of their time in the Dáil bar and only came into the chamber to vote. I remember one night late leaving to go home and the smell of alcohol oozed around the corridors. I am not prudish and enjoy a drink but I think it sends out all the wrong messages to allow the bar remain open while the Dáil is sitting. It should be closed and I will put a motion forward to this effect in the near future. If we do this we could contribute to changing a very dangerous culture of over-emphasis on alcohol which permeates our society - Bríd Smith
I’d rather go to the gym than either of the bars. I will eventually go in. I’ll go in for one drink at some stage. But right now I’ve never set foot in either of them - Gino Kenny
I popped into the members bar once to have a coffee in the first week but haven’t been back there since. I sometimes take a cup of tea in the public bar. I’m quite the teetotaller really! I haven’t been to the gym as I’m an outdoors person and try most days to fit in a three or four-mile walk - Catherine Martin
No. I don’t approve of a bar in a workplace so while I have shown people that have come to the Dáil the bar I will not be drinking any alcoholic drinks here. I have not been to the gym as I don’t have time - Michael Collins
I haven’t been to either Dáil bar since being elected. I have used the gym frequently though - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
I have paid a couple of visits to the bar alright. My Meath colleague Thomas Byrne has told me there is a gym. I just haven’t found it yet - Shane Cassells
Rules, regulations, procedures, requirements…
It’s confusing rather than intimidating. You really have to learn on your feet - Shane Cassells
It’s a little intimidating, but then we live in a rules and regulations country, be you a farmer, a fisherman or self-employed. I am used to rules - Michael Collins
Some are rather outdated and peculiar, and the more structured and timed speaking slots are a long way from the cut and thrust of debates in local councils - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
Everything about Leinster House is quite intimidating at first and I’ve been told it will take at least a year to get used to it! - Catherine Martin
Tell us something odd…
I am still not used to being called ‘Deputy’. It’s great to see the increase in female representatives in the Dáil and that is certainly moving in the right direction but sitting in the chamber it is hard to ignore that the overwhelming picture is one of a sea of suits. That needs to change - Catherine Martin
The Monday after the election I headed to Leinster House to register with the clerk of the Dáil. When I got to the security hut I phoned Thomas (Byrne), who was inside, to sign me in. He fell about the place laughing. “You’re a TD now… you just walk in,” he said. He’ll never let me forget that one - Shane Cassells
The oddest thing is sometimes hearing party people all want to speak about the same thing. Instead, in my view, the party leader should speak on an issue, or a designated person from that party, and no more - Michael Collins
I was surprised at how long it takes to record a single vote. This afternoon four votes took about an hour. This is partially due though to the fact that the electronic voting system isn’t in use yet - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
I find it mystifying the amount of TDs that aren’t in the Dail at any given time. When someone’s talking about anything there tends to be less than a dozen at any one time. I try to be in for at least an hour for anything I’m concerned with - Gino Kenny
Finally, the Dáil summer break – a good idea?
I think a month is enough to be perfectly frank. Three months is too long, although there is plenty of work I’ll find for myself to do. I understand you have to prepare for a new Dáil term, but too much time is not used for that process. Then we have a lot of stuff crammed into the last weeks of recess, we’ve seen it before, and then legislation is guillotined through. I wouldn’t be in favour - David Cullinane
I have to admit I am tired and looking forward very much to a break. But a three-month break would be nuts just now especially since we had no government for the first three months. It would cause completely justified public outrage. I am also looking forward to returning in the Autumn and getting my teeth into a few pieces of legislation that we’re hoping to introduce - Bríd Smith
I have never taken a holiday. I go away for five days every year but also work while I’m away - Michael Collins
With the year that’s in it and the time it took to get the Dáil up and running, holidays should be drastically reduced - Catherine Martin
Not particularly. Of course holidays are needed, and even when the Dáil is not sitting naturally TDs are working. But I think we have a great deal of work to do on a whole lot of issues and on many pieces of legislation, and not much has been achieved by the Dáil since the election. In that context, what has been proposed for this summer is far too long - Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire
Having waited so long to get here I’d prefer if the place would keep sitting so I could get used to things rather than see everyone head for the hills - Shane Cassells
If work needs to be done on Leinster House then fair enough, but seven or eight weeks is too long. Having said that, most of the stuff you do as a TD you do it outside the Dáil. You’re always busy, what goes on here is just one part of it, the national prominence of Leinster House. Both of them are complementary as a socialist. Still, to close on the 7 July would be ridiculous given how late everything started - Gino Kenny
The end is near from the US backed rats in Aleppo. Neighbourhood after neighbourhood is falling today as the Islamist Neanderthals run away. Finally we are seeing civilians flee from their hostage situation as the terrorist are running so fast they have no time to shoot civilians who are fleeing from them.
You might want to update your article, thousands of civilian are now fleeing to government held areas as rebel lines collapse. I wonder how the western media is going to report this as it, it doesn’t fit their propaganda they’ve been spewing for the last year on Aleppo.
If the Assad regime is so bad according to the Western media then why is everyone running to safety in their area of control? Surely the US backed “moderate” rebels are their saviours, right?
Simple survival. Dont think anyone is launching constant air strikes etc into government held areas.
I don’t think Assad’s forces are chopping the heads off 12 y.o boys either.
@Pat O’Dwyer: CIA Still Supplies TOW Missiles To ‘Rebel Group’ That Beheaded Child Near Aleppo and Filmed This.
Syrian “moderate rebel group” Nour al-Din al-Zenki became widely known past July after beheading a child near Aleppo city and posting the video (CAUTION GRAPHIC FOOTAGE) of this. Initially, some mainstream media (for exmaple BBC) attempted to defend the ‘moderate opposition group’, explaining that it was a “mistake” and an isolated case. [Indeed it was not a msitake, Nour al-Din al-Zenki members continue to behead their opponents].
However, under the pressure of public opinion, the US State Department was pushed to announce that the US may consider to withdraw its support for “rebels” if reports of beheading of 14-year old boy are confirmed. Let’s give a word to State Department spokesman Mark Toner:
https://southfront.org/cia-still-supplies-tow-missiles-to-rebel-group-that-beheaded-child-near-aleppo-and-filmed-this/
@Pat O’Dwyer:
WWIII ?
Media Blackout: House of Reps passes ‘No-Fly Zone in Syria’ bill during special session with rules suspended.
Hillary Clinton’s loss was a shock to the purveyors of U.S. military hegemony, who saw in her an easier path to keep the Syria conflict going. Secretary of State Clinton was instrumental in the early days of Syria intervention, in 2010 making a series of demands for Syria to get in line behind the U.S. vision for the Middle East.
When Bashar al-Assad refused to roll over, regime change became the talking point of Washington think tanks and mainstream media echo chambers. Clinton promised during her campaign to ramp up action in Syria, to the delight of the same neocons who brought the Iraq invasion. She acknowledged that many civilians would die if the U.S. set up a no-fly zone.
Establishment of a no-fly zone is the next crucial step toward full-scale war. It would mean Syrian planes could not fly in their own airspace and would bring the disturbing prospect of U.S. planes shooting down Russian planes — which are operating there on invitation from Syria to help battle ISIS.
Soon after the presidential election, key warmongers in Congress began formulating plans to make increased conflict a near certainty, complete with the kind of propaganda peddled before the Iraq attack. While everyone was distracted by the election of Trump, six representatives took advantage of the lame-duck session and suspended “normal rules” to bring us H.R. 5732.
https://www.sott.net/article/334894-Media-Blackout-House-of-Reps-passes-No-Fly-Zone-in-Syria-bill-during-special-session-with-rules-suspended
That’s a well thought out response Brian.
BARACK OBAMA got a noble peace prize!! Remember. That???? I suggest the Novel Committee members to put a 10 year minimum hiatus before they consider applicants in future as this Warlord Obama has turned into a real bad egg!!!!!
# NOBEL Committee….. Typos don’t do favours to me!
Oh dear! If any normal readers are in doubt that Putinbots aren’t spamming the Journal, ask yourself why Charlie’s non-partisan comment got red-thumbed to hell. MUST NOT ALLOW DISSENTING LOGIC, COMRADES. KEEP TROLLING!!!
It is and really they should do something about it before it becomes a corporate owned indy media site. Bit of oxymoron there.
It’s interesting the article doesn’t state whether the families are fleeing from ISIS or the moderate rebels.
Maybe they were just fleeing to safety and couldn’t give a fcuk who they are?
You mean ISIS or Al Qaeda!
Deery me, how is the BBC going to report on the imminent defeat of it’s beloved and rebranded “moderate rebels” in East Aleppo. Especially, after all the hard work they’ve done in promoting this distorted propaganda myth in the first place.
The so called “moderate rebels” in East Aleppo are at best Muslim Brotherhood extremist’s and at worst, head hacking, sharia law loving fanatics.
Hopefully, when these Islamist fanatics are defeated; some sort of ceasefire will prevail between Syrian Govt. forces and legitimate opposition groups and unite against the other Islamist “moderate rebels” in Raqqa.
You can see the muck from the Guardian already today. According to them people are going government areas due to starvation, the air assault or because of the SAA advance. They are beyond
pathetic at this stage. No mention that people are fleeing the head hacking terrorists that held them captive in Islamist controlled districts. The Guardian no longer allowed comments on articles related to Syria which says it all. The lies and propaganda they spouted on a regular basis was debunked by most commentators so censorship was their answer to that problem.
Or maybe the Grauniad’s moderators got so fed up of removing endless automated posts fed non-stop by what are so obviously Kremlin shills (ALWAYS the same messages; ALWAYS deflection/whataboutery; ALWAYS on the same topics) that they gave up out of sheer boredom. The Journal is one of the few places they can still get away with it – mind you, a load of normal readers seem to avoid Syria articles these days, can only assume they got fed up with being spammed by the Putinbots.
Harry your rant is pathetic, if its not Shinnerbots it’s now Putinbots to label the many people who don’t believe the rubbish of established media outlets in Ireland and the rest in general. The Guardian was and is publishing pure and utter rubbish with no evidence whatsoever and and nearly 90% of comments were challenging their lies and highlighting the falsities they were making, especially in relation to the so called “rebels”, who are head hacking savages for the most part.
LMAO, whataboutery and links to pro-Kremlin blogs =/= ‘challenging’ anything.
I have not educated myself on the various groups in this city but isn’t it absolutely abominable that schools and hospitals have been deliberately targeted.
@winston smith: which hospitals or schools are you talking about exactly, those the yanks are constantly talking in the media about but refuse to give anybody details at all about any of them
It’s called extermination of human civilians. Barbaric and criminal.
No words of condemnation from the Pope. Understandable since the civilian victims are not Roman Catholics.
The Pope has being calling for a ceasefire for months now and as recently 18 of November has commented on it. It might be because there are Christians caught up with Muslims in the bloodbath. Then again it might just be down to not wanting to see civilians of any faith getting slaughtered.
@Brian Ward: he originally called for a cease fire before the mass killings started. Now he remains mute in the face of a war crime.
@Micheal OLainn: I don’t see why you’re having a go at the Pope seeing as the atrocities that are being carried out are for the most part committed by Muslim fanatics. I can’t see them suddenly listening to the head of the Catholic Church anytime soon and deciding to fold up their tents and buggering off back to the Dark Ages. Now if the heads of Qatar, Saudi, Turkey and the US/NATO allies said something or even stopped supporting these terrorists then maybe something might happen.
Come to think of it the Dalai Lama has been very quiet about the whole war, maybe you should have a go at him as well!
It seems that not even children are innocent.
Dark days ahead for the people of Aleppo and don’t show much mercy from the Russians either. They just want to get the job done and go home to their families….
Very strange comment. Get online and you’ll see what’s happening all day. Terrorists are fleeing to the south of their enclave in Aleppo city and civilians, in there thousands, are going to SAA/YPD controlled districts. Bright days ahead for the civilian of Aleppo as the terrorists that were holding them hostage flee.
@PaulJ: So Paul you think the war is nearly over, what started as a civil revolt now is a war against terrorism. So who are these terrorists if they are not the opposition to a sadistic regime.
Sorry Chris, but you are main stream media misinformed. There was never a civil rising in Syria. In 2009 Assad blocked a proposed oil line from Qatar to Turkey. The US then set about “regime change”.They never tried to eradicate ISIS as they needed their disruption in northern Syria, as they attempted to remove Assad. But the worst part and what will be Obama’s legacy is the arming and funding of Al Qaeda and the disgraceful attempt to call them “moderate” rebels and paint them as the good guys!..This is the same Al Qaeda that attacked the US in 9/11, killing thousands!
@Lord Clanricarde: and the same al CIAda that were supported by the Saudi government and it’s assets in the US, the same terrorists the US allowed to fly planes in the most watched and guarded airpace on the planet for over 1.5 hours
follow the money
so this morning we find out that all 10,000 residents of the area have managed to flee after Syrian and Russian forces wipe out even more of the western backed ISIS terrorists, it seems the western media and it’s sources have got the population of the area wrong by 265,000
have your say