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Updated 8.27pm
THE DÁIL HAS voted down United Left TD Clare Daly’s bill to provide for abortions in circumstances where there is a fatal foetal abnormality.
The bill was rejected by 104 votes to 20.
Only one Labour TD, Anne Ferris, defied the government to support the proposed legislation. The Wicklow deputy’s vote means she is automatically expelled from the Labour parliamentary party and becomes an independent TD.
Speaking to reporters outside Leinster House this evening, Ferris said she felt “very bad” for having gone against her party, but said it was “an issue very, very close to my heart”.
Ferris said she intended to remain a Labour member, reapply to the parliamentary party and run for the party in Wicklow at the next general election. She added that she did not see herself voting against the party again.
“I’m as loyal to the Labour party as ever,” Ferris insisted.
There was earlier speculation that Ferris’s party colleague Ciara Conway was also planning to vote against Labour. However the Waterford TD ended up opposing the bill.
The four Labour TDs who missed the vote were said to have been granted permission to do so by the party whip Emmet Stagg.
After the vote, the Clare TD Michael McNamara said he would introduce his own bill to provide for terminations where the foetus has no prospect of life outside the womb. The move is likely to heap further pressure on the Labour party if the bill makes it to the Dáil floor.
Three Fianna Fáil TDs - Billy Kelleher, Niall Collins and Robert Troy – supported the bill with all else opposed. Sinn Féin abstained on the vote.
Speaking to RTÉ’s Six One News, Daly said the vote was “another example of the total disconnect between the Dáil and what goes on outside”.
She said that voting against the bill was “a shameful abandonment of the families who were crying outside the Dáil”.
The vote followed a lengthy meeting of the Labour parliamentary party in Leinster House this afternoon. The party was given legal advice by minister Alex White, who is a trained barrister, that Daly’s bill was unconstitutional as the Attorney General had advised the government last week.
Several Labour TDs and Senators spoke during the meeting which lasted for over two hours. Ferris is said to have made a passionate and emotional speech to her parliamentary colleagues before departing the meeting.
Speaking to reporters this evening, Tánaiste and Labour leader Joan Burton said the party has a long history of opposing the 8th amendment in the Constitution, which reads:
The State acknowledges the right to life of the unborn and, with due regard to the equal right to life of the mother, guarantees in its laws to respect, and, as far as practicable, by its laws to defend and vindicate that right.
She said that Labour is “committed to dealing with the issue of fatal foetal abnormalities” and “the huge amount of distress and trauma it causes to individuals and families involved when they get the news”.
However, she added that the party as a member of Government, is “constitutionally-bound to put before the Dáil legislation which complies with the Constitution”.
She said it is “cruel to some of the families involved to suggest that legislation which doesn’t deal with the issue in a constitutional way would be passed”.
As for Ferris, Burton said she is a “very respected colleague”, adding that it’s up to her to apply to rejoin the party, something Labour will address “in the next few days”.
Daly’s bill would have provided for two suitably qualified medical professionals (an obstetrician and a perinatologist) to jointly certify in good faith that the foetus in question is suffering from a fatal foetal abnormality.
Proponents of it argued it does not confer any new rights in relation to abortion, merely clarifies existing rights and, they argue, it is constitutional.
However, speaking for the government last Friday, Health Minister Leo Varadkar said the bill was flawed legislation and would require a referendum which the government has no mandate to hold.
In a statement released this evening, the Terminations for Medical Reasons (TFMR) group said it is “devastated” by the defeat of the bill.
The organisation thanked all of the TDs who spoke in favour of the legislation, but sharply criticised the government for voting against it and Sinn Féin from abstaining.
“Because of the utter contempt with which we have all been treated by successive governments, but most particularly by this government, those who receive the terrible news [that their baby has a fatal foetal abnormality] this week, next week and into the future will continue to suffer as we have.
“We are calling upon all political parties who say they do not have an official position in relation to terminations of pregnancy in cases of fatal foetal abnormalities, to give us your written undertaking that you will discuss this specific topic at your next Ard Fheis.”
Additional reporting by Órla Ryan
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Even though he tried to chat up what he thought was a 16 year old girl, “Judge” Nolan still gives him a suspended sentence? Beggars belief
@COYBIG: see I agree with you and dont get me wrong these people are sick and should get longer sentences but you cant blame the Judge because he is just going by the law and the law should be changed !
@Jim Gold: Judge Nolan is known to give very lenient sentences to paedophiles … why is he allowed to continue to preside over these cases??
@COYBIG: Nolan again????????
Nobody allowed to critise a certain judge any more??
@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: Judge Nolan is half the problem with crime in this country.
@Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: I said he was a joke and my comment was deleted!
In 1994, the Sunday Sport newspaper published a series of pictures of then 15-year-old Linsey Dawn McKenzie as part of their day-by-day countdown to her 16th birthday, on which occasion they published her topless debut.
@Zozzy Zozimus: yes??
@Hans Vos: yes what?
I dont get it, were the sharing pictures of kids to each other or just sharing their own sik fantasies
If these gents were to be hung from a lamppost at high noon tomorrow the outcry from the liberal left and civil liberties groups would be vociferous
@Damien Mooney: yawn. Not only “liberals” and “lefties” oppose public lynchings.
@DJ François: yeah, I’m a positive rascal and I want no part of that. Unless they physically harm a child, then we can talk business
Wait, did the second guy know that the first was a man posing as a girl or did he actually think he was contacting an underage girl?? I don’t see the harm in a guy posing as a girl for some fantasy but a guy trying to chat up what he thought was a young girl is worrying
@Raymond Burke: they were both in on it from my reading. It’s effectively a thought crime.
Very hard to spot the crime here. No images of children and no actual children were involved. Having said that I wouldn’t be calling either of them up to babysit on Saturday evening.
@Anthony Horan: Crime-fiction writers would want to tread carefully around these parts….
Presumably by the same token, the author of the book Lolita would be getting a visit from the cops were he to publish it today….. Ireland1984?
Rough childhood,bullied,blah blah!
When is this going to stop?
Judges being lenient on sexual deviants because of their “remorse”.
https://tag.com/ heres tag.com I reckon this is all fake news.
@Kenneth Finnerty: I think they mean tagged, not tag
@J M Raw: no, that’s how the gardai found a conversation between the 2. Sounds like they were publishing it online (?) or on a forum at least.
They are psychologically sick individuals who should be sentenced to a year of therapy to cure their illness’s not suspend the problem for 12 months as Nolan’s has issued.
what a pile of shit
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