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File photo of former Anglo chief executive David Drumm.

David Drumm's Cape Cod house could sell for $4m

A US bankruptcy official wants to sell the former Anglo chief executive’s house in Cape Cod, Massachusetts.

A US BANKRUPTCY official has set a price for the sale of a Cape Cod, Massachusetts mansion which former Anglo Irish Bank CEO David Drumm claims is his principal residence.

RTÉ reports that the official is seeking $4 million for the house and its contents, but adds that a court will decide later this month if Drumm is entitled to any of the proceeds of the sale. He could be given as much as $500,000 of the money if the sale goes ahead at that price.

Both the bankruptcy official and Anglo Irish Bank argue that Drumm should not receive any funds from the sale.

Drumm bought two multi-million-dollar period houses in the Cape Cod area over three years ago. In this video from last year, RTÉ’s then-Washington correspondent Charlie Bird paid a surprise visit to Drumm at one of those houses:

For more information read RTÉ.ie’s report on Drumm’s Cape Cod house >

Column: David Drumm and Anglo fiddled while Rome burned >

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    Mute Dermot McL
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    Apr 1st 2021, 7:27 AM

    So Fr PJ Hughes is right in his assumption that he is not breaking any laws by saying Mass.

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    Mute Ann Neylan
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    Apr 1st 2021, 7:32 AM

    @Dermot McL: he might not be breaking any laws, but it’s still criminal!

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    Mute Tarraing Mo Liathróidí
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    Apr 1st 2021, 8:32 AM

    @Ann Neylan: what’s criminal is the hysteria around things like people going to church, I’m not religious but I see elderly people in my area who literally feel cut off from the world since covid and their only comfort is their faith….we basically locked the elderly away for a year like animals in nursing and their own homes, and now when we have actually got them all as good as vaccinated, someone telling me we can’t let them do social distancing church service??…the grey vote is an incredibly powerful thing in this country, and believe me they won’t forget this in a hurry especially in rural Ireland, the parties who stood behind this decision will ultimately pay for it whether they believe they were doing good or not

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    Mute Nollaig MacSuibhne
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    Apr 1st 2021, 12:09 PM

    @Ann Neylan: https://www.noca.ie/documents/irish-national-icu-audit-annual-report-2018
    With respect Ann, this too can then he seen as criminal. The state has failed it’s people with a sub standard health care system. The EU also pressed the Irish government to improve this. They refused. The people suffer. Close to criminal

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    Mute Corby Trouser Press
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    Apr 1st 2021, 7:54 AM

    Excellent work lads.

    Doing what academics and experts should be doing.

    See a fault in State response and challenge it.

    A lot happy to sit back, not rock the boat and keep collecting pay cheques.

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    Mute Dennis Laffey
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    Apr 1st 2021, 8:33 AM

    @Corby Trouser Press: eh… They are academics.

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    Mute David Hanly
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    Apr 1st 2021, 7:32 AM

    Hi Oran and David. Any idea the rationale as to why only 10 allowed in a church but a maximum 21 in a courtroom?

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    Mute David Jordan
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    Apr 1st 2021, 1:35 PM

    @David Hanly: Typically at religious services, everyone is singing, reciting hymns or saying prayers, this spreads the virus massively compared to a court room where only a couple of people are talking and most remain quite.

    There’s many examples of superspreading events at choir practice and in churches (e.g. Korea). The following case, one infected singer infected 53 out of 61 singers, there were 3 deaths.

    It is also easier to contact trace attendees at a court case compared to church goers, courts i imagine usually keep a reliable list of names and addresses of people in court.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/mount-vernon-choir-outbreak-was-superspreader-event-says-cdc-report-on-how-easily-virus-spreads/

    Miller, S.L., et al., 2021. Transmission of SARS‐CoV‐2 by inhalation of respiratory aerosol in the Skagit Valley Chorale superspreading event. Indoor air, 31(2), pp.314-323.

    Korea:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/coronavirus-hundreds-infected-in-outbreak-linked-to-south-korean-church-1.4332606

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    Mute Sean Oige
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    Apr 1st 2021, 8:27 AM

    Thank you Professors Doyle and Kenny for this. The intentional blurring of the law and advise has been a dangerous precedent to set.

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    Mute Bert Carolan
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    Apr 1st 2021, 7:31 AM

    A section of the community have come to this conclusion ages ago.

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    Mute Tarraing Mo Liathróidí
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    Apr 1st 2021, 8:26 AM

    I’m not any way religious but the whole fiasco around people going to mass was death appallingly by those in charge, the sight of gardai in a church fining people really showed how messed up things have gotten, then the mixed messaging of no its not illegal and suddenly coming up to Easter it was illegal to gather for mass was just another pathetic episode from those in charge…..the government need to be careful here cos the last time they went rattling the grey vote it stirred a hornet’s nest, and taking away the ability of elderly who still believe in the church or anyone to to attend services, will come back to haunt certain parties….they need to get a grip cos the covid hysteria is going beyond logic now, between banning people going to mass or playing sports outside

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    Mute Arch Angel
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    Apr 1st 2021, 7:50 AM

    In the midst of a worldwide pandemic that’s taking lives daily, should they really have to be told something so basic?

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    Mute Mickety Dee
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    Apr 1st 2021, 7:52 AM

    @Arch Angel: Is there anything to be said for another mass?

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    Mute Corby Trouser Press
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    Apr 1st 2021, 8:14 AM

    @Arch Angel:

    What’s “basic” has been the Irish authorities approach.

    Closing access pretty much hasn’t happened to such an extent as in Ireland.

    Zero risk of transmission with mitigations in place.

    Follow the science.

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    Mute Tarraing Mo Liathróidí
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    Apr 1st 2021, 9:11 AM

    @Arch Angel: I find this argument funny but ill ask the question so, what’s the difference in say maybe 10 people going to a socially distanced mass where they will not be even within 2m of the other person and giving them some comfort, and a person going into a large factory with 200 people 5 days a week where you will be interacting with others for 8 hrs a day???…..while i understand we all have to use a bit of logic during covid, I find it funny how people just dismiss how sending large amounts of people into factories under the banner of it being essential work is anyway safer than 10 people or so being allowed into a church once a week

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    Mute David Stapleton
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    Apr 1st 2021, 9:28 AM

    @Tarraing Mo Liathróidí: clearly it is safer in the mass situation, however, you said it yourself, essential work beats communal gatherings. I happen to agree with you in terms of distancing, etc. However, it all depends on how the state officially views mass and religion. Does religion hold a special legal definition or is it classed as a mass gathering, (no pun intended). If the state is serious about separating state and religion, then legally a mass is a gathering and falls under covid-19 restrictions. Ireland has never fully went one way or the other, but have side lined the issue again and again. I believe that there should be a legal separation of church and state, but until we have clearly defined laws and rules on the subject, it will always be up for debate.

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    Mute Michael J. Walsh
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    Apr 1st 2021, 10:03 AM

    @Arch Angel: You are right! The government should not have to be told to allow churches to open freely and without undo restrictions! If souls are leaving this world daily then they need to be spiritually prepared and comforted!

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    Mute Corby Trouser Press
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    Apr 1st 2021, 10:56 AM

    @David Stapleton:

    There is no country with a more seperate relationship between Church and State then France.

    And they will continue to allow attendance at services even now they are planning to close schools again for 3 weeks.

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    Mute David Stapleton
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    Apr 1st 2021, 11:37 AM

    @Corby Trouser Press: yes, but they allow mass in the same way they allow other gatherings. Religion has no special place in the law, which is my point.

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    Mute Bob Murray
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    Apr 1st 2021, 7:39 AM

    There is the law to tell us what we can and cannot do, legally. There is our intellect to steer us towards the sensible thing to do and then there are morals to steer us towards the ‘right’ thing to do. A society where we live by the whims of an interpretation of the legal system should be approached with caution.

    Now, must go and put my hand in the fire of eternal damnation. There’s no law that says I can’t!!

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    Mute Corby Trouser Press
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    Apr 1st 2021, 8:01 AM

    @Bob Murray:

    If anything it is immoral for the State to steer Mass goers away from an activity that has been proven to have almost zero risk in terms of Covid transmission.

    Parishes have done all the heavy lifting ensuring that the services were Covid safe.

    The thanks they have got has been for the State to put them on a par with a hobby or recreational activity.

    Very few other authorities in Europe view religious worship as a hobby.

    Closure of access to Church services has been very rare across Europe since reopening in Summer 2020.

    It is immoral for people’s right to practice their faith to be taken away from them, in practical if not legal terms.

    Ireland has been an outlier in this “closure”, as with a lot of other things.

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    Mute Dave Hammond
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    Apr 1st 2021, 9:54 AM

    @Corby Trouser Press:

    I take the contrary view – this virus is particularly devastating to older people – it kills them – the age profile of mass goers is predominantly old – it would b foolish and risky to be encouraging them to congregate for mass during this pandemic – much much safer to encourage them to practice prayer at home and improv online masses – if they can get out for a walk to do so safely – but splitting hairs about legality is missing the point – th country is not trying to criminalise older people they are trying to protect them. Prayer should be a personal thing during these times – not something that you need to add risk to and put on display for others to see – the advice to older people is sensible in this context in my opinion

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    Mute Laz Mahon
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    Apr 1st 2021, 8:33 AM

    Gods law over rules man,s law, at all times.

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    Mute David Stapleton
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    Apr 1st 2021, 9:17 AM

    @Laz Mahon: if you believe in the power of God or gods, then even Jesus himself said, “Render under Ceasar the things that are Ceasar’s and under God the things that are God’s”. To me that means a clear distinction between your God’s law and human law. The issue is the vague way in which the state has treated religion in regards to the state. If Ireland really has a separation of the two, then religious services can be considered communal gatherings, and therefore fall under the remit of current covid-19 laws. If religion is afforded a special status, i. e. there is no separation, then it doesn’t.

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    Mute Con Callaghan
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    Apr 5th 2021, 10:56 PM

    @Laz Mahon: The Pope is Christ’s vicar on earth, and he says act with your brain and don’t endanger your health or others.

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    Mute Col de Gal
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    Apr 1st 2021, 9:40 AM

    I believe in beer, and wish to exercise my right to worship. I’m quite devout, so we’re talking 3 or 4 times a week here. Anyone know of any regular services in the North County Dublin area?

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    Mute Dave Hammond
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    Apr 1st 2021, 10:05 AM

    @Col de Gal: i have it good authority the main man is self isolating for 40 days at the mo and is zooming a last supper this week , drinks are off for good friday but he is expected to make a re appearance sometime after this weekend and i have invited him to a wedding we are planning in Cana – there will be plenty of wine sorted if you would like to come along to that .

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    Mute William Bryan
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    Apr 1st 2021, 8:22 AM

    So we have pick and choose enforcement, large ethnic gatherings

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    Mute Fachtna Roe
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    Apr 1st 2021, 9:47 AM

    Somehow I should not have thought it necessary that legislation would be required for intending mass-goers to do what is right by their neighbours, if not themselves. But, since the arguments offered in so many places appear to be based on social, cultural, and even entertainment reasons (for which combination ‘religious’ is a shorthand) the legislation in fact does appear to apply.

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    Mute Rebecca BarrettNp
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    Apr 1st 2021, 12:10 PM

    Irrespective of the lack of *legal* clarity surrounding opening Catholic churches. The head of the Catholic Church, Pope Francis, has said all Catholics must adhere to public health guidelines, are we about to see another split in the RCC?

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    Mute Liam Mernagh
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    Apr 1st 2021, 11:22 PM

    It’s amazing really, the parallels between Covid 19 control mechanisms and the penal laws ot the 16 & 17th centuries. When might is right and diabolical laws can be enacted and implemented and enforced in the name of the “common good”, r
    Rest assured, democracy is and always will be the big loser.
    We are most definitely on a slippery slope which needs to be stopped with utmost haste.
    Whatever happened to St John More’s words¦ Your servant my lord, but God’s servant first!

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    Mute Garreth Byrne
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    Apr 1st 2021, 4:18 PM

    Can I sum up the matter of attending religious services? :
    + It is not unlawful to attend
    + It is not criminal
    + It is not allowed.

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    Mute Mick.
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    Apr 1st 2021, 1:10 PM

    It could be argued that Religious Services are both Cultural and Community events and thus are in breach of Section 31a of the 1947 Health Act.

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    Mute Mary Paget
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    Apr 4th 2021, 7:59 AM

    That would be an ecumenical matter…….

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