@milton friedman: Do you honestly believe most people try to be green as possible? Inconveniencing people raises awareness, how many people would notice if it happened in a field in Donegal? If Governments and major Corporations did their bit then you wouldn’t be inconvenienced, instead of getting the message you’re attacking the messenger. Governments and major Corporations won’t change their behaviours unless they are made to change.

@milton friedman: So what is? Omelettes and eggs, milton. Compare the inconvenience of a delayed commute now to the inconvenience for your kids when there’s not so much of a world left for them to raise THEIR kids in

@milton friedman:
So criminal damage instead of concerted protest?
Sheez dude. Call in sick and join us

@JusticeForJoe: the purpose of extinction rebellion is to compel governments to take action on climate change.

So I’m telling them to up the ante on the government, not average Joe. Not protracted protests that most likely won’t work.

@milton friedman: Sorry, I actually missed the funny bit about Leo’s car. Haha. Yeah but it has to be kept legal and you can’t be seen to be “victimising” or “intimidating” poor innocent politicians who are just trying to earn an honest shilling. Remember Joan in the car?

@Trevor J Coonan: it was more of a joke, but the London protests don’t seem to be obeying the law based on the arrest numbers. If ours is the same movement then how long before it’s not criminal?

@milton friedman: Seriously, man. You’re gonna look at a few arrests and focus on that?

@JusticeForJoe: yes delay public transport genius

@Seán O’Sullivan: Fine point well made, Sean. I wouldn’t dare debate you

@JusticeForJoe: yea all the exhaust fumes the extra hr longer the bus n car were running while ye trying to save the world

@JusticeForJoe: Yes, what were these bandwagoners protesting about two years ago before “Climate Change” became the latest buzz word?

@JusticeForJoe: yeah “man” …

@Alan Carthy: Yeah but now consider the changes they’re trying to bring about. They’re trying to prevent more pollution than was caused there and they’re trying to push for ways to start getting rid of the carbon dioxide. Like planting forests. Did you know they actually have a reason to do this?

@GerryCummins: Just to help a little bit with the counting… “Climate change” is two words.
Read over that a few times tonight and I’ll test you on it tomorrow. Then we’ll talk

@JusticeForJoe: “A buzzword is a word OR PHRASE, new or already existing, that becomes very popular for a period of time”.

@Sean O’ Donovan: Slow clap for you, Sean. Glad you’re focussed on what’s important anyway

@Diarmuid Hunt: have you ever been in a field in Donegal Diarmuid, mad craic altogether so it is

@JusticeForJoe: well I was advocating destruction of property up there so I’m not really emphasizing that.

I just don’t think they should shut the place down to a large extent (I’m not sure if it’s that bad here, but in London they were blocking access to a hospital apparently).

@milton friedman: *unintentionally blocking the access to the hospital

@milton friedman: I’m glad to see it was unintentional, at least. I hope they make sure not to do it again. I also think disruption is the only thing that works. Otherwise nothing changes. People continue their humdrum existence trying not to rock the boat or call attention to themselves.
I also get what you were originally saying about the car. Personally, i used to say I’d like to drag a few politicians from their cosy beds in the middle of the night and hold public floggings for their flagrant disregard for the majority of people they’re supposed to represent. I realise that would probably be frowned upon by some people though

@JusticeForJoe: arrest them for disturbing the peace. It’s illegal to do so muppet

@JusticeForJoe: dismissing people like this isn’t going to win friends and influence people. The guy going to wexford or wherever maybe has sick kids, parents obligations. By antagonising normal folk u turn them against the message. Many people recycle etc take public transport.

Protest corporations and chains etc . If any of the protestors travel, buy in large chains or use large corporations at all they are part of the problem. Like the carbon tax penalising individuals is a ridiculos propsition when capitalism and corporations are the gigantic elephant in the room. Yes teach consumers ,change attitudes but go to the source. Protest diageo and other big business in the capital. Agriculture another problem here.

@Niall Brew: it’ a crisis no denying it but attacking ordinary joe soaps imo is a waste of time. Gigantic social media companies ( who give ad vrevenue to huge polluters etc ) are all based here. Its not hard to find out where much of them are based using google maps

@Niall Brew: * take ad revenue i mean…billions of it

@JusticeForJoe: oh dear, anal much?

@Niall Brew: I’m always gonna call out people who are slagging people who are trying to help. I’ll taunt them and boo them until my throat is sore because I refuse to let them belittle such a just cause. I don’t care if they don’t wanna be my friend and I don’t care that they’ll never change their mindsets. They’re lost causes and we have to push on without them. I’ll happily argue with them any chance I get though because otherwise they’ll assume I agree with them and I can’t have that.

@GerryCummins: Are you 12?

@JusticeForJoe: Carbon is 0.01% of the atmosphere.

@milton friedman: What use is a protest that doesn’t inconvenience someone, keeping quite doesn’t make a difference. Taxes are not equivalent to action. Time the Govt stepped up and banned single use items, e.g. why do McDonald’s, KFC etc allow paper cups, wrappers etc for sit down meals? Single use coffee cups should be banned, separate bins in the streets to separate rubbish, ban non-recyclable packaging on food etc. Lots they could do but don’t.

@VIncent McGloughlin: that’s the point.

@John gaughan: Not everyone works 9-5 Mon-Friday

@John gaughan: Believe it or not, Some people actually care about these things enough to use their annual leave for it.

@Trevor J Coonan: I don’t need to be saved … so jog on with your “new cause”. Where were you 2 years ago before Climate Change became a “buzz word”? It’ like the Life of Brian quote “He is the Messiah, and I should know I’ve followed a few”….

@GerryCummins: Nobody cares what you think you need. They care about their kids

@John gaughan: what a stupid comment. Do you work 24 7 ?

@David: I work hard six days a week I am mad to see these people sitting on the streets in the middle of the day when working people paying for them to be there

@JusticeForJoe: working people are too tired to sit on the streets

@Trevor J Coonan: I don’t think that bunch on the Dublin streets will quench it

@ObsidianShine: yes some people do care and use holiday days to protest but the majority is on the dole

@John gaughan: You don’t speak for all working people, John. I work and you don’t speak for me.

@JusticeForJoe: kids? Like the offspring of Goats? Anyway I broke my own rule , interacting with scaredy anonymous people…Who is Joe anyway. You are looking for Justice for him?

@GerryCummins: Shh. Run along, child

@John gaughan: Why are you getting so wound up about some fantasy you had where the majority of the protesters are on the dole? They’re not. You can rest assured that whatever bad working conditions you have that have you working six days a week are a result of you being too scabby and mean to join a union as well.

@Em Gee: Look down their powdered noses at ordinary workers?? Who do you think is protesting? Politicians and royalty??

@Em Gee: People tend to have no interest in anything other than their own self interest.

@Kev: Good for you. You also think everyone else works in the same job as you, or else they don’t work.

You also demonstrate beautifully the exact type of person who slags this movement

@Kev: is that contributing to society, or is it contributing to the status quo?

@JusticeForJoe: raising environmental issues is fine but jumping on the “let’s save the environment” bandwagon and blocking up traffic and preventing people from getting home from work, college etc is not the way to do it. Why can’t they do that on the weekend when it would disrupt less people? Don’t go blocking me on my way to work now while I pay for your entitlements

@Brian Ó Dálaigh: well it’s contributing to a little thing called a mortgage so that I can own my own home and earn a decent living for myself. I don’t these lads doing that for themselves.

@Kev: There you go. No interest in actual debate or discussion. I don’t claim entitlements, thanks. I work a lot. I doubt you earn much with that intellect though

@Kev: Have you spoken to any of “these lads”?

@Kev: Where you think you got the time to work and then come on and comment here. Protests. Trade union and otherwise.Go research your worker history. Your taxation gets wasted quite alot. 150 odd million gone on fixing schools this summer for example that should of been built the right way the first time simple checks from any one of multiple departments would of done it from many people employed and being taxed. Everything you buy is taxed. as your employed you probably go on holidays or buy a car, washing machine whatever with your money most of which goes overseas to whichever company produces it to be given out as a dividend . If a person on the dole buys something chances are it all stays in country, so they are funding themselves.

@Kev: Thats your choice as to what you decide to do with your time on this planet. Look after yourselve. Other people want to see a better world for them, you and the kids of both so they put time into that. Everyone end up in the same place in the end. You probably work just long enough making another bunch of indiviuals money to croak it as you make your final mortagage payment.

@Mark O’Leary: And before you start im full time self employed.

@Kev: you’re on TheJournal. Shouldn’t you be out working instead of commenting if you’re that concerned about your mortgage?

@Mark O’Leary: rubbish

@Mark O’Leary: Well said

@Mark O’Leary: that’s one long sentence!

@Mark O’Leary: yes it is, very hot in fact, aircon everywhere!! check out their methods of beef production…

@Damian Moylan: maybe 13/14 states could be considered “hot”… they have 50 on the mainland….

@Mark O’Leary: 49 actually, Hawaii is not on the mainland

@Damian Moylan: PLA Polyesters, Hemp,Starch-based plastics,Cellulose-based plastics,Protein based plastics and various others all more than capable of replacing hydrocarbons….. Legislation makes hydrocarbon based ones more affordable and blocks the use of others Hemp can make much stronger plastics than alot of hydrocarbon plastics. Look up Henry Ford and his hemp car for one example

@Damian Moylan: I’d like a horse and cart
but the poor yoke would fart.

@Damian Moylan: We’ve been a net exporter of electricity since 2016 so start again

@Damian Moylan: france – there are plans to lay an underwater cable / interconnector from france to ireland and then to connect up with the one from the uk to ireland , allegedly we will be able to ‘sell’ any excess electricity to either the uk and europe (though how that is going to work after brexit -the ‘brainboxs’ have not come up with yet ) or import extra when we need too – this of course means ireland will no doubt become dependant on either the uk or on europe for our energy needs – costs will no doubt double and we will face more carbon taxs to pay for the infrastructure – of course we COULD also try to build out own energy generating stations running of renewable sources like solar ,wind ,wave power etc or even nuclear –but that wont happen – we will end up going with the french option and screwing the irish citizens while making the french richer !!