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Row rumbles on as Siptu rejects DAA/Aer Lingus offer

Aer Lingus has slammed Siptu, accusing the trade union of releasing “wildly inaccurate details” about the process.

A DISPUTE OVER staff pension funds at Dublin Airport is set to continue as Siptu has rejected an offer by Aer Lingus and DAA, while the airline has accused the trade union of releasing “wildly inaccurate details” to the media in relation to talks.

Describing the companies proposals as “derisory”, Siptu organiser Dermot O’Loughlin said the trade union’s two pension committees decided against accepting the offers given “the scale of the pension deficit”.

Following a meeting at the Irish Congress of Trade Unions this morning, they have written to the Labour Relations Commission (LRC) seeking its assistance to obtain “a very significant improvment on the monies offered by both companies”.

“The pension committees have also asked the LRC to urgently comment on the status of this negotiation process,” added O’Loughlin.

Aer Lingus said it regrets Siptu’s decision to release what it called “wildly inaccurate details to the media” in relation to talks aimed at resolving the funding issues within the Irish Airlines Superannuation Scheme.

“Such wild inaccuracy has the potential to destabilise the progress of current talks,” said a spokesperson. “Aer Lingus remains committed to finding an appropriate solution to the issues with the IASS and continues to engage with all the parties involved in the LRC process.”

Siptu had claimed that Aer Lingus offered to provide between €9 million and €15 million to resolve the crisis but refused to inject any lump sums unless staff accept very significant productivity measures. The airline denies those figures.

DAA also called the union’s statement that the DAA had agreed to provide €33 million without any preconditions and a further €10 million if secondary pension matters are resolved “a misrepresentation”.

A spokesperson for the company said, “SIPTU’s claim that DAA’s offer is derisory is a misrepresentation of the facts. Based on actuarial advice, our offer will deliver a substantial pension for DAA staff at retirement.”

Workers have previously threatened industrial action over the issue but plans were put on hold to enter last-minute talks with the LRC last week.

Earlier: Dublin Airport workers withdraw strike action for Monday>

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    Mute Padraig Stapleton
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 7:12 AM

    Worked as a charity mugger years ago, door to door and lasted a week. Got fired when I felt guilty and wouldn’t let a pensioner sign a direct debit he couldn’t afford. A lot of these people are on commission and some do very very well out of it.

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    Mute James Higgins
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 7:21 AM

    Just ban the practice completely.

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    Mute Marie Carroll
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 7:55 PM

    Agree it should be banned. People are made to feel guilty by not engaging with the chugger, and that’s unfair.

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    Mute John Ryan
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 7:36 AM

    It makes you not want to give to charities.

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    Mute David Douglas
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 7:19 AM

    Please let’s have something like that here…I miss having a nice uninterrupted stroll and listen to my ipod to get my lunch. Having someone try get my bank details when I’m having the only time out I get from being a business owner in a recession where the majority of my life is spent thinking about banks and money is just too much….many people are under way too much financial stress these days to be hassled for donations when walking down public streets by some way too happy clown in a tee shirt…

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    Mute finbar m
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 7:18 AM

    I hope they do tge same here

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    Mute Caroline Locke
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    Aug 23rd 2012, 12:16 PM

    Indeed.

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    Aug 22nd 2012, 7:41 AM

    Ciaran Hayes needs to walk down Shop Street on any day of the week to know it isn’t an intermittent problem. I hope they bring in rules & regulations here also, these chuggers tactics make me not want to give money at all.

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    Mute Dave O'Shea
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 8:21 AM

    Must get at shirt made up ” chuggers get punched in the face” ….. Don’t fret I won’t do it… Much

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    Mute bob
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 9:24 AM

    I had to tell one to f##k off yesterday.he would not stop!! amnesty international chuggar in mullingar outside park gate! fine cause but will push people away with hard sell tactics!! name and shame!

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    Mute Orela Krawczyk
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 9:27 AM

    I was accosted by one guy a few yrs ago and when I told him I didn’t have my bank details to hand, who does?, his reply was sure there’s an ATM over there. I was 18 and very intimidated so I did what he asked. When I got home I rang the bank and cancelled the D.D. and I rang the charity and got it cancelled and reported the chugger. Now they full of Sorry, we def do not support this method of collection, it’ll be looked into. My arse the same guy was just moved to a different corner. Would never give to that charity now.

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    Mute Sinead Taaffe
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 12:13 PM

    had something similiar happen to a mate of mine, its shocking that this seems to be a somewhat regular occurance. I personally just say no once then ignore them until they give up, even if they decide to follow me down the street.

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    Mute Stephen Church
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    Aug 22nd 2012, 1:42 PM

    Chuggers and those charity ads with crying / sick children should all be banned , People should give to charity because they want to , not because theyre being presurised by ads that make you feel bad or pushy sales people on the side of the road.

    All the major charities do this and its a disgrace.

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    Mute Caroline Locke
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    Aug 23rd 2012, 12:17 PM

    Well said.

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