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Climate and Transport Minister Eamon Ryan Alamy

Interview: Does Eamon Ryan trust Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael on climate? Well, no.

The former leader of the Green Party is hopeful his party will get back into Government.

EAMON RYAN IS nervous going into this week’s United Nations General Assembly in New York.

As Climate Minister, Ryan is there to represent Ireland alongside Michael D. Higgins, Simon Harris and Micheál Martin.

From his perspective, the week is a precursor to COP29 (the UN’s climate change conference), which will be held in Azerbaijan this November. 

Ryan explained he is nervous that enough progress won’t be made this year, but he’s hopeful that last year’s efforts can be built on.

“It’s not certain. It’s really contentious. The level of climate financing we need is so huge, and it’s such a divisive issue. And the world is in such a difficult situation at the moment,” Ryan said.

It’s understood the minister will be appointed to a senior role at this year’s COP, playing a key role in negotiations. 

However, Ryan made the point that there is so much happening in the world at the moment that can derail climate progress, pointing to the political uncertainty ahead of the election in the US as one concern.

When asked what another Donald Trump presidency would mean for climate, Ryan responded: 

“There are certain gold rules if you’re in government, we don’t comment on other elections.

“There are plenty of people who can run the commentary on what a Donald Trump presidency will be. People can imagine what my views would be,” he added.

What about our own election, does Ryan expect the Green Party to be back in government? 

“I really hope so,” Ryan said. 

He’s more certain when asked if he has confidence that his current coalition partners are up to the task of responding to the climate crisis without the Greens: “No, not without the Greens.”

In particular, he fears progress made over the last four years in public transport would be reversed if either Fianna Fáil or Fine Gael remain in government without the balance of the Green Party. 

“Not to be overly critical of my colleagues, but I think they themselves would recognise that with the Green Party element in government, you get much more ambitious action on climate. You get much more ambitious action on nature,” Ryan said, adding that he believes both parties would also reverse progress made with retrofitting and with nature restoration. 

After 13 years as leader of the Green Party, Ryan’s resignation in June of this year came as a surprise to many.

The leadership contest that followed resulted in TD Roderic O’Gorman taking the reins of the party, beating Senator Pippa Hackett with a slim 52% majority. 

Ryan told The Journal that he was “happy either way” with either candidate succeeding him and that he’s now happy to follow O’Gorman’s lead on coalition negotiations, after the election. 

On the timing of the election, he maintained the government will be going full term but added there “isn’t much of a difference at this stage” whether it is “November or February or March”.

Health of the Green Party

Last week, it was announced that well-known climate activist and former Green Party councillor Sadbh O’Neill, is to seek the Labour Party nomination to stand in the next general election in the Waterford constituency. 

If selected by Labour, O’Neill will be going head to head with Green Party TD Marc Ó Cathasaigh. 

When asked if O’Neill’s decision to move to the Labour Party reflects poorly on his party, Ryan said it doesn’t.

“I wish Sadbh well, I’ve the highest regard for her,” Ryan said.

“There wasn’t an opening in the Greens, because we have a sitting TD so that may have influenced her decision…I don’t think it really says much about the Green Party,” he added.

Budget 2025

Ahead of the Budget, Ryan’s priority is getting an outline in place for how the Climate and Nature fund will be spent. 

The €3bn fund was established by Ryan as part of last year’s Budget to pay for climate action and nature restoration projects, but its contents cannot be spent until 2026.

He’s hopeful that the fund will be used expand public transport services as well as help transform heating systems for homes, businesses and public buildings like schools and hospitals.

“No one can paint the world as a pretty picture at the moment, but there are positive signs,” Ryan said.

He pointed to the “phenomenal” change solar power has been for our energy system, and the fact we managed to get through the energy crisis that resulted from Russia’s war in Ukraine, as two examples of these positive signs.

“It showed the ability to manage crises in a way. So it’s not all impossible. If you felt it was impossible, you would give up, but you can’t.”

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This article is part of Policy Matters, a series from The Journal that takes a deep dive into the ideas and solutions proposed by Ireland’s politicians on some of the biggest issues of the day.

As part of the series, The Journal sits down with different spokespeople from across Ireland’s political parties to take a deeper look at what they believe needs to be done across areas like housing, health, the environment and childcare.

Last time, we caught up with Labour Party Senator and spokesperson on employment affairs, Marie Sherlock to talk about the argument for bringing waste collection back under public control. 

You can read past articles in this series here. 

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