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THE OFFICIAL PLANS for how Europe is to deal with the refugee and migrant crisis were unveiled this morning with Ireland’s response likely to be finalised tomorrow.
European Commission president Jean Claude Juncker outlined the current situation in his State of the Union address to MEPs earlier.
“Italy, Greece and Hungary cannot be left to deal with the migrant crisis alone”, he told the European Parliament in a speech which can be read here.
He said that pushing back boats, setting fire to refugee camps or turning a blind eye to the helpless is “not Europe”. Instead, he said that “Europe” is the reaction of people who have welcomed refugees with open arms and that there is no belief or religion when it comes to dealing with refugees.
Juncker’s comments came as ministers in Dublin prepare for a special cabinet meeting on the issue tomorrow morning at 7am.
Cabinet will meet at 7am tomorrow to discuss Ireland's response to migrant crisis including how many refugees country will take
While a broad discussion was held at their weekly meeting today, ministers are expected to focus on the detail during tomorrow’s talks.
This will include exactly how many refugees Ireland will take in with it expected this will number around 1,800 in the initial phase.
Justice Minister Frances Fitzgerald is due to bring a memo to cabinet which will outline financial support, expected coordination with NGOs, and details on how refugees will arrived, be processed, and accommodated.
A special scheme that will fast track the assessment of those refugees fleeing conflict areas like Syria is expected to be set up.
Special Cabinet meeting tomorrow morning 7am to focus on planning for and delivering a generous, appropriate response to the #refugeecrisis
Earlier, in a “letter of intent” to the President of the European Parliament, Martin Schultz, and Prime Minister of Luxembourg, Xavier Bettel, Juncker said that the European Union “is at a defining moment”.
The letter outlines a movement towards a new policy on migration, saying there will be:
A swift, determined and comprehensive response to the refugee crisis, including adoption of proposals on an emergency relocation mechanism, on safe third countries of origin and on a permanent relocation scheme.
There will also be renewed efforts towards better management of the external borders of Europe, and steps towards the creation of European coastguard and border guard systems.
The Common European Asylum System will be strengthened, while the existing Dublin system will be evaluated, and the European asylum support office will be strengthened.
Juncker promised the delivery of safe legal avenues for those in need of protection, and a proposal for a permanent scheme for resettlement, together with enhanced protection schemes in the proximity of the EU.
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There will be a renewed approach to manage legal migration, including the revision of the Blue Card directive.
In his SOTU address, Juncker said that a “comprehensive European agenda” on migration is needed. He said that emergency mechanism to relocate the people seeking protection from Italy and Greece has been proposed.
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A second emergency mechanism to relocate a further 120,00 people from Italy, Greece and Turkey was also proposed.
“We are talking about 160,000 Europeans [who will] have to be taken in charge and [Europe] will have to take [them] in their arms,” he said. “I really hope this time everyone will be on board.”
Juncker: Today we will open emergency trust fund, 1,8 Billion to address Sahel, North Africa crisis and I expect all MS to pitch in #SOTEU
Nearly 500,000 people have made their way to Europe since the beginning of this year.
The plans come after weeks of heightened interest over the crisis, which has seen people flee to Europe to escape war and poverty.
“A lasting solution will only come if we address the root causes, the reasons why we are facing this refugee crisis,” Juncker told the European Parliament today.
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“Now is not a time to take fright, it is a time for conservative action,” said Juncker today.
“As long as there is war in Syria and terror in Libya, the refugee crisis will not go away,” said Juncker, calling on people to “imagine for a second, if it were you”.
There is no price you would not pay, there is no wall you would not climb, no sea you would not go to sail, no border you would not cross if it is a war of barbarism and so-called Islamic State that you are fleeing.
He said we “have to accept” people fleeing the Islamic State on European terrotity.
“It is high time to act” on the refugee crisis, because there is no alternative. Juncker said there has been “too much finger-pointing” among members states in recent weeks.
Jango from Syria and his daughter Varia land with others migrants on the island of Lesbos, after crossing from Turkey to Greece, Associated Press
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Later, he added that Europe “cannot host all the misery of the world, but let us be honest and put things into perspective”.
He told those assembled that “it is a matter of humanity and human dignity”, and for Europe it is a matter for “historical fairness”.
He also commented on how emigration has affected the world, saying:
“The number of O’Neills and Murphys living in the US exceeds by far those living in Ireland.”
He added:
We Europeans should know and should never forget why giving refuge and the fundamental right to asylum is so important.
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Meanwhile, Amnesty International criticised European leaders’ response to the crisis, describing it as “incoherent and lacking in leadership, ambition and compassion”.
It launched its Agenda for Europe this morning, which sets out “urgently needed changes” in Europe’s approach to the crisis.
“The level of suffering facing refugees fleeing violence and human rights violations has reached a level unseen in Europe since the Second World War,” said Colm O’Gorman.
The response to the refugee crisis in Europe has been piecemeal and incoherent at a time when the need for clear-sighted leadership and radical reform of Europe’s collapsing asylum system has never been greater.
Amnesty is calling for a European-wide strategic approach “to ensure an increase in safe and legal routes for refugees fleeing persecution and conflict”.
The organisation called on European leaders to:
Significantly increase support for frontline EU member states so that they can provide humane reception conditions and speed up the processing of asylum applications.
Ensure access to EU territory for refugees arriving at external land borders.
Relieve the immediate pressure on external border countries through an emergency relocation scheme.
Revise EU legislation which limits the freedom of movement of successful asylum seekers within the EU.
Frontline member states must end push-backs and stop human rights violations, including ill-treatment and excessive or unnecessary use of force.
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I am all for helping GENUINE refugees but they all need to be vetted. In February ISIS said they would be sending over boatloads of ISIS fighters to Europe, in their thousands. The west laughed at that idea but look at us now in September. Yes there are SOME women and children but the majority of the migrants are young men travelling on their own. Some form of vetting needs to determine why all these young men are travelling on their own and if they are fleeing death and war, where is their family?
I dunno what vetting is really gonna determine as there is probably not any written back log on these people in this country and the obtaining of information is impossible. Took me ten weeks to get my own and I’m an Irish system. Prepare for a bureaucratic nightmare
It has already been stated that no vetting will occur. Liberals won’t allow it. Open borders immigration means that they believe Muslim fundamentalists have the same right to Ireland as we do
Catherine,
David Cameron is setting out a good plan by only taking in people from refugee camps. He is sending out a clear message to all those fit, healthy, young, men that they have to be controlled. That message will also get to those in Calais.
Genuine cases need asylum.
Photos of demanding, militant young men doesn’t gain sympathy, unlike photos of children washed up on a beach.
Reports on the internet state Alyan’s father was not on the vessel that capsized & only knew his family perished in the water later. If he was on it he escaped remarkably well, not a bruise or scratch in sight. It was ok to send his wife & children out in danger.
Who said no vetting will occur? Who is talking about open borders? Oh and shock horror not everyone that is non-White/Irish/Christian is an islamic fundamentalist. What planet do you people live on? This is a humanitarian crisis and Ireland like every other country should do its bit to help genuine refugees.
Hence the point I made above about vetting being pointless. There’s no viable way of doing it other than asking these people a few questions. Nothing to do with liberals or apologists for terrorism. Chill Duck, chill
This is extremely worrying, opening borders to floods of illegal undocumented immigrants…
The number of failed states in North Africa is high and shows no sign of slowing.. Can Europe really absorb tens of thousands of immigrants a year for the next 10 years?
This will bring a massive cultural and economic change to Europe, it will become a place we may not recognise in 20 years time..
So the EU have now taken control of our money, budgetary control and finally they want control of Ireland’s immigration control. We now have countries like Sweden pushing their open borders disaster on Ireland. Look up malmo immigration problems. Ireland really has to leave the EU and with like-minded countries go back to the EEC based on independent countries working together in trade while protecting their individual cultures. We have a grotesque union that is destroying our country. Time to leave.
The hourly RTE Radio news headline was like a Junker propaganda announcement – there was absolutely no reporting on any concerns. It was a disproportionally long segment and finished with 15 seconds of other news.
The media truly is controlled and manipulated to tell the people how to think and behave.
and yet more hand-wringing photos like those above.
why not pictures of thousands of young men rioting in the streets, intimidating locals, smashing shops and cars.
then again, that doesn’t suit the agenda, does it?
Other European countries are reporting it but not our special RTE, rioting hordes of aggressive young Senegalese men causing total chaos and destruction in small tourist towns in Spain, throwing rocks, breaking public amenities smashing shop and car windows and turning over waste skips onto the street in front of traffic. These events are quite regular and so far there has been outbursts of violence and destruction where ever migrants are congregating. If I was travelling illegally into other countries looking for aid and asylum I certainly wouldn’t be behaving like these people. This is an simply an invasion and must be controlled, those who destroyed their documents and those trying to circumvent the legal process should be either sent back where they came from or held till last in the camps while those who legitimately seek help through proper channels and can show who they are should be processed quickly and welcomed.
Where are you getting your info from? I notice a lot of conjecture but no facts with percentage/figures? Any footage that I’ve seen would be contrary to your assertions….
Time Richard for you to stop spinning open-border horseshit
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There’s just so much that doesn’t add up. Starting with the fact that the boy’s name is actually Alan Shenu. His father Abdullah claims he and his family were fleeing the fighting in his ‘home town’ Kobani.
i have an idea for dealing with isis, isil IS or whatever politicians and the media is calling them this week. perhaps the US, UK arabia, israel etc. could stop arming funding and training these nutjobs. right now the threat of terrorism is being used as a justification for invading countries and destabilising regions. it is simultaneously is been used to take away public liberties and silence people at home. problem reaction solution.
are there religious nutjobs? there surely is. however these morans are being armed to create a manufactured terror threat.
we are told that the US has been leading international air-strikes against them for over a year but somehow they are continuously gaining ground and the public is told their numbers are always going up.
this is more propaganda to try and convince the public that isis is a real threat. many people are starting to realise the absurdity of this group and ask questions. they have the best PR team in the world,they are over social media and the web. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heX4q-VZmS0
Because its not as simple as that. You destroy ISIS and you won’t have solved the problems in that area, you have not cured the problem that caused ISIS and there is still the conflict between Asad and the Syrian-Arab-Spring. The Americans though that they would just have to remove Sadam Hussein and they would solve the problem with Iraq and left a power vacuum which ISIS partially filled.
I don’t have a solution, I don’t think anyone has. That is why Europe and the USA don’t want to go to war in that area because there doesn’t seem to be a solution when you have an area that is so ideologically diverse.
YET when they took out Saddam we didn’t get a ridiculous influx of Refugees, they only came after the withdrawl and upon the Invitation of the European Union. Time to unleash the Dogs of War.
Juncker: overpaid unaccountable incompetent:EU is Borderpess ffs. Juncker leading figure in Merkels (CDU) EPP party of which Enda Kenny represents Irish contingent (FG). What do we pay these people megabucks for? They can’t even organize Border Control. An no I won’t have Islamification of Ireland stuffed down my neck by Juncker, Merkel, Joan Burton or Labour-SOD OFF.
Oh for Christ’s sake, what rot. “unleash the dogs of war “? easy to say from the comfort of your sofa, dick. let’s make more refugees, or are you just recommending blanket extermination? yeah, probably.
Who gives Junker the right to dictate to people. Europe is this Europe is that.Who gives him the right to define a continent, our continent.not only that there are several countries that do not agree with him.I note that the UK government is not accepting its “fair share”based on the higher number of poles that they have had to absorb over the past decade, I feel sure that we have more pro rata. I understand that Ireland has more foreign born residents than the UK.
Rashers: dogs of war were unleashed by US arming Syrian rebels to destabilize Syria backed by EU and IRL. idem Libya, spill over Tunisia. Don’t worry about refugees, a lot more to come yet. A borderless country has No Control-I’m with Orban/Hungary. U know nothing about mass Islamic takeover in a country I do. I have lived in such countries.
I agree with you, nations need to mobilise and kill the problem at the source, regardless of this crisis ISIS needs to be forcefully stopped, we saw this in ww2 and we all took a policy of appeasement and the rest is History.
I keep thinking of the elderly man who just spent 5 days on a hospital trolley. How will our already inadequate resources cope with a large influx of people?
The real answer is to give the Syrian refugees back their homeland and the sooner the better.
To many people have died in the struggle over Syria and it doesn’t belong to Assad or Isis.
The press reported this week that waiting list for social housing in Ireland has jumped to 130,000, from 90,000 in 2015.
Most are non-nationals.
Ireland will borrow 5 billion euro in 2015 to run the country, while paying 10 billion euro in interest on the bailout. Interest next year is 11 billion euro. And the year after that, and so on.
In a recent UK report, it found that between 1995 and 2011, immigrants cost the country 95 BILLION pounds more in health, education, housing and welfare costs than they contributed to the tax income.
Is it all worth it?
Statistics for the claim that most of our doctor are from abroad,please. In the UK where the society is much more multicultural only 11% of all medical staff and 26% of doctors are non-UK born.
So not most like Kian was claiming. Thank you for clearing that up, Matt. Most foreign born doctors are EU citizens. Still shocking statistics that cast a deservingly harsh light on our pathetic health service and education system.
The proportion of foreign-trained doctors rose from 13.4% of all registered doctors in 2000
to 33.4% by 2010. The largest increase was in foreign-trained doctors from outside the EU,
rising from 972 (7.4%) in 2000 to 4,740 (25.3%) of registered doctors in 2010. The biggest
source country in 2000 was Pakistan. By 2010, South Africa had become the biggest source
country. The number of foreign-trained doctors from other EU countries doubled from 780
in 2000 to 1,521 in 2010.
WE did not elect this Junker chap but we did elect Bruton and Kenny and could we perhaps persuade the two of them to visit Malmo without a gang of Swedish Government cover-up merchants surrounding her ? Or to take a trip to Kos or Lesbos? Surely she would want to check the reality of the situation before committing Ireland to the same ?
This invitation from Germany to millions of ‘refugees’ is straight out of the Common Purpose handbook and slots in nicely with UN Agenda 21. http://www.stopcp.com/cpmediacontrol.php
n so many words, the United Nations seeks to co-opt, via individual governments, and eventually, a “one-world government,” privately held land under the auspices of ensuring its “sustainability.” Worse still, the UN’s Agenda 21 has even laid out plans for “depopulation” or rather, “population control.” If it sounds like something out of George Orwell’s 1984, that is because Agenda 21′s tenets are eerily in line with the demented alternate reality Orwell himself had imagined while scribing the pages of his famed novel.
I was born and raised in Ireland. Being a citizen of a country (regardless of being born there) means you do not need to be vetted to enter. People are vetted when being granted visas to enter countries, when seeking certain jobs. I don’t see why you seem to disagree with it in circumstances where there is a viable threat?
The plan today is for the redistribution of ‘just’ 140,000 migrants but 10 times that figure will enter Europe this year. If we take 5k now as the government seems to be indicating then that would extend to 50k if Merkel gets the ‘fair distribution of burden’ she is looking for. Most of those will then look to bring over family as the vast majority are single men who have left their families behind to the tender mercies of ISIS and we couldn’t refuse that could we? So, 5k now turns quick into 100k or more. Death by a thousand cuts folks
Merkel has shown told the entire populations of Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan that if they arrive in Germany that they’ll probably be left stay, housed and fed.
Many in the EU, including Merkel want to abolish the welfare State. Have a more American style free markets, sink or swim model.
EU Commission President Jean Claude Juncker has today delivered his “State of the Union” speech – an annual address to the European Parliament which attempts to portray the unelected bureaucrat as a figure in the style of the U.S. President. It just gets worse.
the arrogance of Junker needs to be addressed, there’s more people in america of French, German, Dutch, Russian and English decent than there is of Irish decent. this guilt’ing of people into accepting EU policies is a disgrace, the whole “tolerance” agenda is the most oppressive belief ever pushed on people, Were now seeing them pull the WW2 card, these politician are a disgrace.
Its also important to note this is the same Junker who wants a European army, It would be very interesting to see whom funds this mans party. A real Corporate politician we have on our hands here.
Yes he, Junker could probably come up with a nice tax scam to fund it all, the cost of the migrant crises, divert a bunch of corporate profits to Luxembourg perhaps.
So, what happens next year when, as the UN have just said they expect 450,000 to make the crossing….is the EU to absorb up half a million unvetted refugees every year? and for how many years?
Juncker…”A swift, determined and comprehensive response to the refugee crisis, including adoption of proposals on an emergency relocation mechanism, on safe third countries of origin and on a permanent relocation scheme.”
Why permanent?…and what does this all mean for Ireland? How can we cope?
The EU hung us out to dry on bank debt….their debt to which we are paying billions every year.
This will break our country culturally and monetarily and will be used to destroy our welfare state system…we’ll end up a system as heartless as the American one.
How come Juncker singles out the Irish?..”“The number of O’Neills and Murphys living in the US exceeds by far those living in Ireland.” ….what does that mean!
They were migrants who went there and were vetted and grated legal status….what did he expect them to do …stop reproducing in gratitude?
Is this a signal that we are going to take a very huge number of refugees and migrants…much much more than 5,000.
Bingo. Ireland is one of the few countries in Western Europe with a very strong national identity. Its the prime target to be “enriched” with diversity now.
they fxcking hate proud, nationalistic countries that don’t accept their “tollerant” mindless slave that works their holes off never questions their policies. Ireland is still one of those countries, for now.
“Strong national identity” – riiigghhtt – what would that be then? Have the majority of Irish people, instead of ignoring or actively denigrating it, suddenly embraced the Irish language and its literature, traditional Irish music etc etc. No I don’t think so. We have a unique and ancient native culture but instead of embracing, celebrating and preserving it we’ve presided over it’s near complete destruction.
Ireland is an Anglo American capitalist, consumer clone – “Strong national identity” what a laughable load of sh*t.
What’s your point Matt?… if they are there illegally they should be deported, although I’m quite sure Juncker was not pointing out those as because they are not registered they don’t know who they are or what their names are….Juncker was mentioning just the ones who are marked in the census as they are Americans and legal.
Speak for yourself Miller. Most people know exactly what it means to have an Irish heritage and culture. Aside from the language, I know loads of people who embrace the music, history, literature and poetry.
The fact the language wasn’t wiped out because of concerted effort by Elizabethan bureaucrats in Ireland, mass emigration to the US and a terrible teaching system implemented by the Irish state. I’ve been learning Irish in my own time and have gotten more out of the last couple of months than I ever did in nearly two decades of school education.
And don’t forget Al, the migration of peoples from Europa countries worked out well for the indigenous peoples of the Americas. Their populations, religions, societies and laws are still the mainstay of the USA today.
Oh wait..Sorry..Just read a history book. Turns out that the mass influx of peoples in such a small space of time, wasn’t so great for the indigenous peoples after all.
how about they investigate and do something about the root cause of these migrants…………the nato and zionist instigated wars.
we already have a housing crisis here and a 2nd world health system, the open borders crowd would overload them. our DP centres are already beyond breaking point. nato and the people it claims to represent needs to be shamed into not initiating wars of aggression and causing tragedies like this.
in controlled amounts immigrants add to a nation’s culture and national identity, however the levels that politicians and bureaucrats wish to impose on european countries will utterly fragment societies and destroy national sovereignty and sense of identity. this is what leads to ghettos and fractures in society.
if all the migrants and asylum seekers were let in and allowed to compete in the labour force how do you suppose that would affect the situation for the average worker here. it would cause huge wage deflation and worse working conditions in the unskilled labour market. most of this country’s indigenous population are there.
be under no illusion there is an agenda behind what’s going on, many are starting to realise that and more people are coping on to it by the day.
really………….destroying libya opened the floodgates and allowed migrants access to the med which they did not have before. the rest of the wars created the migrants.
How many Irish people voted for Junker?
Who does he think he is, and whom gives him any right to dictate to the tax payer’s how their, hard worked for, money should be spent on those who have not contributed?
I voted No to Lisbon and Nice, as did the majority of Irish people. Then we were made Vote a second time as they didn’t like the first result…..Do you not remember that..? Europe is not Democratic.
Dude, afraid that’s not how it works. I voted no anyway, twice, but, if someone dictates in a democratic society, surely they should have a mandate to enable such fascist ranting.
Am I a racist if I say that Syrian families should get priority resettlement? Germany (thriving capitalism) can benefit from (wage busting) cheaper labour; single males with or without papers will better meet those needs.
Why is it that during famine and starvation in ethopia there was no rush by Germany and others to import black africans. Where were all the bed pledgers then? Something stinks here…..
Comparing 21st century Europe with 19th century America is assinine guilt tripping.
Of course refugees should be catered for in a country not of their choosing but the journal writes ,” The plans come after weeks of heightened interest over the crisis, which has seen people flee to Europe to escape war and poverty.”
If people escaping poverty are included Europe should be ready for hundred of millions of new arrivals and maybe we will find they are not escaping chaos but bringing it with them.
The London review of books has a good balanced take http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n18/slavoj-zizek/the-non-existence-of-norway
“It’s very difficult, but if all these refugees come to Europe or elsewhere, then Daesh has won the game,” said French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius.
And indeed it would. This is immigration jihad.
Worse still, Obama is considering bringing thousands of these “migrants” here, adding to the already growing army of ISIS recruits in America.
In February, the Islamic State warned us that they would send half a million Muslim migrants in a “psychological” attack against the West.
And back in May, I reported that the Islamic State was making a fortune smuggling Muslim “migrants” into Europe.
And back in July, I warned that hundreds of ISIS members planned on infiltrating Europe, together with masses of refugees from Libya, Syria, and Iraq.
It’s happening — the media are fictionalizing what is essentially the invasion of Europe.
France says taking all refugees would be victory for ISIS, Jerusalem Post, September 8, 2015
muslims europe wait
PARIS – France warned on Tuesday that it would be a mistake for Europe to take in all refugees persecuted by Islamic State militants in Syria and Iraq, and called for a plan of action to ensure the Middle East’s diversity remained despite the mounting crisis.
About 60 countries, including ministers from Iraq, Jordan, Turkey and Lebanon, met in Paris on Tuesday to cement measures aimed at easing the return of refugees, encouraging regional governments to bring minorities into the political fold and ensure no impunity for crimes against humanity.
“It’s very difficult, but if all these refugees come to Europe or elsewhere, then Daesh has won the game,” French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told RTL radio, referring to the Arabic acronym for Islamic State.
“The objective (of this conference) is that the Middle East remains the Middle East, that means a region of diversity where there are Christians, Yazidis, etc,” he said.
According to French diplomats, the conference should also see financial pledges that could be used to improve the situation of refugees in neighboring states, ranging from reconstruction of infrastructure to restoring basic services or training local police.
“There is a humanitarian urgency,” President Francois Hollande said at the opening of the conference.
“If we do not offer more help to the countries that welcome (refugees), if we do not give more support to the families that are in these refugee camps or are displaced in neighboring countries, then not only will there be tragedies … but there will be this exodus.”
Hollande said on Monday Paris would begin reconnaissance flights over Syria with a view to launching air strikes against Islamic State. France also plans to welcome some 24,000 Syrian refugees from camps in the Middle East over the next two years.
Europe’s problems began long ago. This crisis has only highlighted how inept the EU is and the lack of cooperation between the states. Germany and France want to distribute the refugees (France can’t even control the refugees at Calais), the Eastern block and Denmark don’t want them (Denmark are placing ads in newspapers telling them not to come), Italy is happy to send them across the border, Austria has requested the border to Hungary return to normal, Greece are crying out for help, Britain is the only one to take a somewhat sensible approach but their numbers are laughable and Ireland… Well after listening to the FG TD on Claire Byrne Live I’m convinced that the government is so far behind they think they’re taking in Bosnia refugees from the Yugoslavian civil war…
Neither Juncker nor any of the people he cares about will be at risk using public transport as a result of opening the border to undocumented illegals. In the space of a week, the Syrian passport has become the most forged document passport on the planet.
The difference between Juncker, Peter Sutherland and the modern left leadership is that they’ll agree on mass immigration but disagree on the reasons why.
It’ll just be a passionate argument over brandy in the drawing room.
I think Ireland is at a crossroad as far as Europe is concerned, on one hand we have this great trade partner, on the other we have an organisation that despises national identity and objection to policies. We should do the Irish thing and tell them to go Fxck themselves. Keep in mind TTIP is still on the cards and were not being informed about it.
Media is very one sided on this To be fair to RTE who would come on radio or TV and even critize this policy Any politician who did so would be labeled right wing raciest On the mainstream media there is no decenting voice
We need to fight back before we are overwhelmed by these people. This is a much bigger issue than water where are the tens of thousands of protesters for this much much more serious issue, this is about our identity that we will lose make no mistake. Stand and fight or turn and pray twords mecc! I know what I will be doing who’s going to beside me? ?
Well Dublin Says No support mass immigration and multiculturalism. So its nice to see water protesters showing how much they care about their country in the end.
This isn’t a fight that you can win with violence. Leaving the EU is the number one priority.
In response, a non hostile response, there’s an election next year, will the ordinary Irish folk who, here, and elsewhere, state their objection to the fourth invasion taking place now, tell the candidates on the door steps that enough is enough and we’d like to send them all home, or, in line with Dublin convention, back to Italy?
If we don’t, we cannot blame any one for the change in our, once, homogenous nation.
Right wing isn’t a dirty word, Matt. The journal has quite clearly changed to a far left perspective in recent years. You have no problem with that because being left wing suits your politics.
Providing balance in the media is important for both sides. Its not a propaganda site either, its a news aggregation site.
I haven’t seen one article on thejournal.ie about the negative effects of illegal economic migrants (or refugees are you refer to them). On the other hand on the site I showed you, there are several articles on politicians and bureaucrats who talk about the positive effects of mass immigration and multiculturalism.
Really Pat? Have you seen the reaction to many of the pro-illegal economic migrant articles? Most people appear to be extremely displeased with the agenda thejournal.ie is pursuing.
Again Pat as I said to Matt, being right wing is not a dirty word. Too far right or too far left both equally result in negative results. I would describe myself as a nationalist conservative.
If the Brussels bureaucrat, Jean Claude Juncker, is going to single-out Ireland in this patronising, bullying way, then the Irish people should set a course for leaving the European Union as soon as possible.
When Britain gets out, we should make our excuses and leave too. The EU is beginning to make the USSR look good, with the misery they are unleashing on innocent people with this weaponised migration from the 3rd world. They just want to smash national identities to create a superstate. Save Ireland. We need to get out before it’s too late and every town is like Rotherham, Malmo, Marseille, Brussels.
The government got their wish it won’t be water rates the people will be worried about next election it’s all these so called unregistered , unidentifiable Muslims been brought into Ireland. These people think they have a God given right just to march across different countries borders with no respect for any law. We can’t just turn up in America or Australia and decide I’m coming in its none of your business who I am or what I’m doing here so let me pass
muslims are not your average migrant, they won’t integrate, they’ll want to change your countries laws to suit them. keep them out, there nothing like paddy o’neill or paddy murphy.
Under different circumstances this would be funny
“Kuwaiti researcher Fahd Al-Shelaimi, Chairman of the Gulf Forum for Peace and Security, was recently asked what was preventing the Gulf states from accepting refugees fleeing the war in Syria. “The cost of living in Kuwait is high,” Al-Shelaimi responded. He further said: “At the end of the day, you cannot accept other people, who come from a different atmosphere.” Al-Shelaimi made the remarks on the France24 Arabic TV channel on March 17, 2015.”
Luxembourg , Does anyone ever sit back and think how a field in the middle of europe gets to run the show, ever wonder why no one ever invaded bar in 1939(1914 wasn’t a take over) when Hitler dared, ever wonder how they have to lowest tax and vats rates in europe yet never get any attention. But Ireland does a deal with apple and they go nuts
How naive – Wall St and City of London bankers run the show, the kind of banks like Goldman Sachs and the U.S. Federal Reserve run the whole show, they dictate foreign policy, not the politicians who do their bidding, money is the bottom line, these bankers control that, thus they control policy. Turn your attention to them, instead of chasing who they want you to.
There really are limits to the amount of migrants we can accept into Eurooe…Allowing some to work would really help to alleviate the financial burden they pose. Perhaps the cheap labour cost of some of those young ablebodied men could be put to use building a great big wall, to keep the rest of them out!
You can not compare America of 100 years ago to Europe today. America was the “new world” and everybody was from somewhere else. You cant move millions of muslims into small European countries. Especially then the culture is so different.
I think the crucial difference is that America 100 yrs ago was not a welfare state. You worked hard to provide for you and yours, or you genuinely just didn’t survive. Open borders and taxes being handed out in benefits is a system that cannot work.
Migrant Wave Inspires Others to Attempt Trek to Europe
Iraqis are joining Syrians in taking what to many seems like a ‘golden opportunity’
Stories and images of migrants pouring into Europe are inspiring thousands more, from Iraq to Nigeria, to rush out on their own risky journeys, posing a burgeoning problem for policy makers who are focused mainly on easing the plight of Syrian refugees.
Inspired by phone calls and Facebook posts from friends hiking through the Balkans, crossing into Germany or simply touching dry land in Greece, people from countries long plagued by war and instability say they are seizing a pivotal moment.
“This is a golden opportunity,” said Osama Ahmed, 27 years old, who lined up Sunday at Baghdad International Airport, heading for Greece via Turkey with five friends. “It’s totally nonsense to stay in Iraq when there is a chance to go.”
The government couldn’t set up a water authority without making a complete dog’s breakfast of it, do we really think that it can administer this policy effectively?
In a few years, there will be an inquiry. As usual, no one will be held accountable.
Syrian refugees are due to arrive in Australia by Christmas under the Abbott government’s emergency humanitarian intake, after passing stringent health and security tests and promising to support Australian values.
Senior government officials said the 12,000-strong refugee intake is expected to cost $700 million over four years.
Simon Coveney’s buddy Peter the Great Sutherland talking about the EROSION of Sovereignty in countries as a good thing ….https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UvURb98aqU and Irish News stations had this guy during last week ? what the hell is going on here ?
Journal can you get an interview with Peter Sutherland and ask him why he thinks the EROSION of Sovereignty in Ireland is a good thing ? Please arrange it if you can
Patient, your the kind of person who when hears that several killed in some European city makes excuses for the sc um terrorist, “spiky it’s because of the west, douuuuu”.
The irish govs response goes something like this, throw a couple of million blindly at it, wait and see what happens, seeing very little effect, throw another couple of million blindly at it, where will we get the money, we’ll raise taxes, see what happens, oh, don’t forget, give ourselves a payrise, throw another few million blindly at it……..and so on. Thats the way this shambolic mess of a gov is dealing with issues like IW and homelessness, and unfortunately this horrendously poor management is costing the taxpayer millions.
When a problem gets solved, bad politicians like to take all the credit, even though their input could have been minimal. But when the politicians fail to solve the problem, its everybody elses fault!
There’s a huge difference here all round, yes the irish did set of to America in search of a better life for themselves but they bloody well worked hard at anything they could get and got no free house no social welfare no help we bloody built the place .I’m just afraid they these poor refugees and I do feel sorry for them will just get all handed to them and im afraid that we are just geting a bit fed up with that , charity begins at home
At least some here have concerns with this refugee/migrant numbers too.. Listening to Irish media you would think we should be feeling guilty and accept thousands! I even heard Fergus Finlay the other day say anyone who doesn’t agree with his liberal agenda is ignorant scared or racist. Why are RTE and today fm and the press all singing from same hymn sheet?
Our Euro masters have spoken, and don’t expect our so called leaders Enda & Joan to unclamp their mouths from that gravy spurting titty willingly.
David McWilliams has helpfully suggested (probably while sipping coffee in Paris) that the remaining ‘ghost estates’ in lowly populated rural areas be handed over to incoming migrants.
Self contained Islamic ghettos
in every county of Ireland.
What could possibly go wrong?
Tired of hearing about the homeless Irish. Why am I supposed to feel sorry for people who because of debts or addiction have wound up on the street? These aren’t acts of nature but their own personal bad decisions which have caused this fate.
The refugees had made no such life mistake other than reside in the wrong place at the wrong time. Nothing that has happened for their displacement is their fault and they should be given aid and at a priority over the homeless Irish. People are people and I’d rather help people who have done no wrong than the reckless spenders and drug addicts because they happen to be Irish.
Drug addicts aside…….you want Irish people who struggled hard to put a roof over their families heads and lost their homes because of bad decisions partially by them but also by the ‘expert’ bankers who gave them the loans….and then the same bankers put the screws on them after the very same people were crucified to bail them out. Get a grip!
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