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YOUNG IRISH EMIGRANTS are moving abroad because of limited jobs, lack of opportunities, and to experience new horizons.
That is according to Time to Go, a qualitative research study exploring the experience and impact of emigration on ireland’s youth by Marie-Claire McAleer of the National Youth Council of Ireland.
The report, which can be read here, looks at life as a young Irish emigrant in the UK, Canada, and beyond, focusing on elements including likes and dislikes, jobs, challenges, accommodation and culture differences.
Findings
The report is the first qualitative study exploring the experience and impact of emigration on Ireland’s youth over the past two years.
It found that many young Irish emigrants are moving abroad to experience new horizons and access greater opportunities, as well as because of limited employment options and lack of opportunities at home.
Participants regarded the use of Skype, free web apps and other tech services as essential for keeping in touch with home in a cost effective way, and many said they spoke more frequently to their parents after emigrating than when they lived in Ireland.
Adjustment problems
But emigration isn’t all easy – the emigrants said they still encounter significant adjustment problems and often struggle with periods of intense homesickness, stress over finances, accommodation, and job searching.
But many said that their emigration was much harder for their parents than it was for them.
The vast majority said they intended to return home after a period of time, provided they could get a job.
Emigrants found the use of Irish networks and support systems invaluable, such as the GAA, the London Irish Centres,the Irish Canadian Immigration Centre or the local chamber of commerce.
A Red C poll on emigration for the report showed that 42 per cent of the 18 – 24 year olds surveyed had considered emigration an option, followed by 28 per cent of 25 -34 year olds.
Overall, 45 per cent of the Irish population has either considered emigration or had a close family member emigrate in the past two years, while one in 10 has experienced both.
In the last four years, 308,000 people have left Ireland, and 41 per cent (125,000) of those are in the 15 – 24 age cohort.
The report found that many young Irish emigrants perceive their experience as being easier than the generations who emigrated before them, because they are well educated and highly skilled.
Recommendations
McAleer, senior research and policy officer at NYCI said:
In the past 2 years over a quarter of our population has been affected by the emigration of a close family member, and half of our 18 – 24 years olds have said they would consider emigrating themselves, so it is vital that this issue is given the consideration it deserves, and that a dedicated Government policy response is developed to support our young emigrants and tackle the challenges they face.
Based on the findings, the report makes a number of police recommendations for government, including:
I was one of the few who decided to come home to Ireland and have been very lucky with work. I know not everyone is as lucky. The experience I had in Canada was great but there was always something missing and that was friends and family.
We should have a gathering of people who want to come home. They could gather here in a large gathering. We’ll call it “The People Who Want To Come Home”
Booked my flights to Australia yesterday,I always wanted to leave for a year travel around Australia but this is forced, I am going because I have no other choice. Worst thing is I don’t know when I will be able to come home and I notice a lot of my friends who are already gone, looking at the economy here and knowing my visa might be nearly up but I still can’t go home what next ? I will leave in a few months and I will have no idea when I will be able to come home. The direction our country is being taken at the moment, makes it
clear to me that once I leave it will be
long time before I am home.
FF and FG have failed my generation and they are sitting fat cats destroying our future and will not even allow us a vote, how is that fair when these old men are making such disastrous decisions that my generation will have to live with forever( IBRC, Oil, forests ,debt write down etc) Wish people wouldn’t listen to the spin of,we are making the tough decisions and there are no alternatives. Thats all lies.
For a start Julie, we did vote in 2011.
Secondly the government have not failed our generation, the bitterness and willingness to blame anything and anyone but yourself as exemplified by your poorly punctuated rant have.
Our generation are and were extremely lucky, we have had every chance to get an education that are parents could’ve only dreamed of.
It is not the governments fault that you could not get a job. Yes there is less jobs but if you availed of a good education and are willing to intern for free, you can easily find one.
There is no point moaning that the government did this and that to stop you from getting a job. Your choices have most likely impacted on you getting a job, whether it might have been not studying or a lack of motivation to intern and build up your skill base.
I hate when people my own age rant and moan and blame everyone else. We are incredibly lucky and privileged and hopefully you will see that when you emigrate.
Best of luck Julie. I hope that the economic environment improves in the future, so that you and people like you, that are forced to leave our shores, are able to come back to your family.
Conor, my education is just fine, after spending a year trying to get work, doing courses, improving my CV, contacting local entrepreneurs and calling into local business I am now leaving. This just after spending 4 years in college studying and getting very high marks in my finals.
You must not be too up to date on what is happening in the economy at the moment. We are crippled with debt and have many more austerity budgets to come, how come people can’t get the basics. If you continually take money from people’s pockets, they will have less disposable income to spend in the economy, because of this businesses are closing and people are being put out of work. There is no job growth in this country. Business are closing every day. Two in my own town last week.
You attacked me about this before, I am not to blame, the government have the power to make decisions and they made the wrong ones.
What about the family that live next door, who packed up there lives and left for Canada with their three small children. I guess that is there fault noting to do with his business being destroyed because the government taking every last cent people have.
What about the father who only sees his kids for two weeks every now and then because he had to go to Norway to get work, his fault?
Did these families work in construction?
Good man Conor. You are the type of pleb FF or FG need. Take off your blinkers and get a reality check. It was painful reading that utter dribble. Go make a strong cup of coffee and wake up
Conor, your grammar is far too poor to allow you to complain about punctuation.
Ignorance is bliss I guess Conor.
No both had their own business, and because of the decision of this government, which has led to many people losing all their disposal income, they found it difficult to get customers and their business closed.
Here is a fact for ya the lower end of society contribute 20% of total vat where as the top of society contribute 8% meaning that the lower paid workers who have been robbed by this government actually spend more in the local economy. So can you see that taking more money off these people will lead to more job losses and business closing. On vinb they said last night that 5 business are closing in Ireland every day.
As for my local entrepreneurs they have very successful business, not just in my area, in Dublin, Australia , America etc. they told me the only sector where there is hope of work is the IT sector, every other sector is flat, even at that graduates can’t get work because the jobs on offer want many years experience so they have to bring in people from outside Ireland.
Internships I know plenty who have done them and no work for them after, my cousin just finished one in accounting and once it was done that was it, back on the welfare, so he left for Boston this week.
Now put your head back in the sand.
Have to agree with Conor on this one!! The ‘Poor Me’ attitude to employment opportunities!
Your head is stuck up your ANUS far too long conor, time to see what’s on the outside …….
wish you the best julie you are 100 percent right we have criminals running this country the politicians have long gone under the bed we have an illusion thatwe live in a democracy ,i wish the people would wake up and see what is reall taken place in our country and stop watchin RTE you are being brainwashed
I live in dublin got a good educarion nd still cnt get a job? Employers wnt even reply sayin u didnt get the job.
Good luck julie wish I cud do it wanna leave this horrible kip.
Got told by my granda who was born in 1926 that all young people the best for them is to leave. And id say hes been through his fare share of strugglin
Good luck Julie.Go nEiri chun an bothar leat .
Julie, safe journey and good luck. Conor, hope you get knocked off your perch you blueshirt p***k
Actually Julie take your blinkers off, lower paid workers spend more percentage wise of their income on VAT because they have a lower income and save less, this does not mean that they spend more in the local economy at all. Your inference is totally incorrect.
Higher earners pay a higher proportion in tax. They pay for everything and generally get nothing back in return. Your woe is me attitude is exactly what’s wrong with this country. Stop blaming everyone else, I hope you get on well in OZ but wake up and smell the coffee.
Just because your local entrepreneurs say it’s so doesn’t mean it’s true.
I graduated from college last year and I’ve had 2 jobs since, starting the first one a week after my finals and this is similar to all of my peers in college and know for a fact that what you are saying is bullshit. They all work in a variety of different sectors, and no we didn’t study IT.
A defeatist attitude will get you nowhere in life.
I’ve three things to say to you Dave.
One I’m not a Fascist, Fascism was a horrible political system. Ireland is nowhere near a Fascist state.
Two I don’t support political parties like people support football teams like most of the hoi polloi who seem to comment on this website.
Three don’t call someone a pr–k just because they don’t drink the same coolade as you.
The wealthy pay for everything, what is the effective tax rate about 30%, what is the tax rate paid for by a frontline public sector worker. if they pay for everything why am I paying motor tax, property charges, water charges, carbon tax, income tax, USC, where are all my taxes going. Your understanding of things is very simplistic and ignorant.
As for the entrepreneurs, yes that is simply just their opinion, but I think their opinions are worth taking note of anyway.
Conor you told me all this before about how great you are that you got a job, not denying you are good at what you do, but you got lucky, some like me and Grainne above have not been lucky.
Emigration is the governments fault they are doing everything right if their aim is to have a high percentage of the population in poverty, business closing and more jobs being lost. If you can’t see that I suggest you look into the figures a bit more.
I take it you are the kind of person who thinks the government are doing well and that they had no choice. So sick of hearing the same waffle of we made the tough decision, we had no choice. If your still falling for the spin, educate yourself.
Regardless of the reason, you argue you take money off the wealthy through a higher tax rate, that they will all up and leave Ireland(a theory not backed up by any country that actually has a wealth tax) I take it taxing lower income who spend more will lead to business closing and job losses, no growth, that is what’s happening
Julie you offer no suggestion of a solution, you just continue to rant.
Higher income earners pay all the same taxes you do. Their effective tax rate is a lot closer to 50% than 30% percent. I’m not a high income earner but disincentivising wealth creation goes against every basic rule in economics.
I don’t have a defeatists attitude just a realistic one after a year of trying to find work and watching what direction the government is taking our country.
I have a great job lined up in oz, in recent positions I have had in here one during college and the other when I finished, I have moved up in both jobs to higher positions but only working part time. So my attitude, ability, work ethic and determination are all fine.
Thanks to the people who wished me luck, very nervous, sad to be leaving my family but can’t stay here and be a burden on them, this destruction by the bankers and politicians has not been good to them either. I don’t mind leaving, always planned to travel, my problem and anyone I talk to that has emigrated is when will I be able to come home , what happens when the visa runs out in oz do I come home and sign back on or will I be able to get a visa somewhere else.
Where do u think the money the government has comes from? Do you actually think that the government running at a constant loss is sustainable?
A wealth tax won’t balance the books because capital can be easily moved, reducing spending within the country and decreasing consumer confidence.
But Conor any other country with a wealth tax has not had a problem with wealth creation, so that is just something the government says all the time with their spin machine RTE.
The effective tax rate is closer to approx 32 % not 50%.
I am basing my assumption of go educate yourself from your comments.
You state the wealthy pay for everything, not true, that wealth creation will disappear with a wealth tax, not true. Emigration is our own fault, not true, you may have missed the last 5 years. Educate yourself.
Forget the wealthy way are corporation not even paying the full amount of corporation tax and getting away with it? Maybe them two things could be used to help generate jobs and investment in jobs. Along with a gambling tax, a write down in the banking debt of private investors we have had to pay, write down of people can’t pay their mortgage, reduction in energy cost through renewable energy for manufacturing, capping TDs and civil servants salaries and abolishing the ridiculous expenses, making the bank lend to business again( farmer in an area of cork went in to bank livestock were starving, asked for small overdraft they said no, he committed suicide a week later) small business I work for cant get overdraft facilities, not making a loss. People with money and work can’t get mortgages. I am no economist but there are different ways of closing the deficit, fairer across the board ways not by going after the easy target.
“A wealth tax will reduce spending and consumer confidence” proof that will not happen look at other countries with a wealth tax. Now look at places like Greece and Ireland, austerity has massively reduced what people are spending and their confidence that is what I have been trying to tell you austerity is doing what you falsely claim a wealth tax would. There are ways that if people move their wealth the tax will still apply. Yes a wealth tax is not the magic solution, every one knows that but it could be used to invest money that is so badly needed in job investment.
Sh*te trolls are tiresome
Julie I haven’t watched the RTE news in about ten years.
I’m educated and I know how to read around things, critically analyse etc. I studied Business and Finance in college hence why I know all these wealth tax holy grails are in fact populist drivel spouted by opposition politicians pandering to the masses.
There is no big conspiracy, our country is broke. You cannot tax yourself out of recession. Slash welfare, slash non frontline civil servants salaries, reduce taxes for all including high income earners and watch the jobs roll in.
Look at countries with a wealth tax we all learned the same thing in business, wealth taxes were bad for economy but actually look at the countries like Norway Sweden that have this tax it has not done any of the things you claim it will do, maybe you are wrong.
Haven’t we been cutting things for the last 3 years and it has not generated jobs the way you claim it will.
Nice chatting with you again Conor about the same things. You have your opinion I have mine, one of us is right one is wrong only time will tell. So far it is leaning more towards me being right.
Austerity being implemented all over the EU and the euro zone economy will shrink -1%, that means overall there has been no growth the economy has not picked up.
I do watch rte news, have to get both sides of the story and make your own conclusion based on that. For someone who has not watched rte news in a long time you sure do sound awfully similar to them and the garbage they spout.
Julie believe what you will, I’m totally against increasing taxes. Services have to be cut in tandem with cutting taxes.
Head back in the sand with you Conor. It’s getting boring explaining these very simple things like, wealth taxes don’t do what you claim, yes decrease taxes for lower paid, get them spending again what ever extra they have as you said because they don’t save it will go straight back into the economy,give the wealthy person a tax break and it is more money just sitting in their account. Bye now Conor, lets hope you are right ,I will have no problem coming home because we are on the road for loads of jobs, however I won’t hold my breath.
Julie, maybe you’re just unemployable!? There’s always that possibility! Like already mentioned, you’re like the person who says they’re forced to emigrate for better opportunities abroad, only to end up flippin’ burgers for the Aussies or Canadians! Lotta sentimental bullshit on here today like people going on about emigrating like it was getting the plane at Shannon for the States never to be seen again when in fact you’ll probably take a glorified working holiday down under and piss around for a few years before returning home and expecting someone to hand your, afore mentioned, unemployable ass a job!
Already have a great job lined up in oz, local entrepreneur is expanding his business into oz so that’s where I will be. Highly employable. Highly skilled, high marks, motivated, very hard worker.
Your theory of it being emigrants are the problem very wrong.
Cousin emigrated working in an accountancy firm in Boston, another family member quantity surveyor, in oz working in a great union job, has been grated the 4 year visa, I could keep going with many other highly qualified friends and family, but your just another troll like Conor, ye like to live with yer heads in the sand so blame me if it means ye don’t have to look at the actual reason we are all being FORCED to leave.
I’m not a troll, I just don’t understand why your cousin couldn’t get an accountancy job in Dublin? Loads of training contracts.
I think your woe is me and my kin attitude is extremely annoying. I also think you pick and choose figures and infer there is a correlation with nothing to back it up, which goes against what they teach you in college.
I think you look for attention telling a sad story, that doesn’t entirely add up. If you continue with your attitude and outlook to life you probably won’t amount to much and will be still here moaning in your thirties how life isn’t fair.
You don’t understand it because you are living in fantasy land and you don’t understand what is really happening to this country.
As for the rest and its all my fault I have to emigrate, I have a great job lined up in oz so that throws your theory of it being me not the economy out the window.
Nobody is ever FORCED to leave Julie! People always have a choice and its yours to leave! Your gripe that the Government are somehow consciously forcing you to leave is pure tripe!! And just because someone doesn’t agree with your point of view doesn’t make them a troll!! Personally I think you’re full of shit & not a word out of your mouth is the truth but it’s of little concern to me!! “A local entrepreneur expanding (all the way) in Australia…” BRILLIANT!! Lol!
Okay will you tell me my choices please?
I am full of it and what I am saying is not true, why would I lie, what would be the point.
What exactly do you think I am lying about?
Yes Conor is a troll, every time I mention emigration he attacks me saying it is my own fault.
Yes I am being forced to leave because there is no work here for me, again that is not the problem it is the mess they are making, it will be a long time before I can come back.
Yes he has his main offices in America, he is in Dublin and is starting work with Australian post.
I’m not a troll Julie, you call me that because I disagree with your sob story.
Your story doesn’t add up fact.
This “Entrepreneur” of no distinct industry doesn’t exist. If he is so impressed with you that he is sending you to set up his Australian outfit, why hasn’t he given you a job yet in Ireland?
Or in the States if his main offices are there.
You have told me before that you have a first class honours degree in “Business Management”, if this was actually true this would put you at the top of every interview stream for a grad programme. Especially since you say you’ve done internships etc.
This is also I suspect bullshit because it doesn’t make sense.
I also believe that you probably don’t have a degree in business because if you do, you’d understand that taxing capital as a means of creating funds for job creation does not make sense and goes against Economics 101.
So Conor instead of talking facts you would rather call me a liar.
Yes he has offered me a job but I won’t be heading any project.
He didn’t have a job for me in Ireland only it sector work in Ireland and I don’t have the qualifications.
You can call my personal situation a sob story I don’t think it is, I think it is just the reality of the situation I am in.
I shouldn’t have called you a troll name calling and personal insults are childish and I apologise if I offended you.
Yes I qualified in June and had my graduation in October. Yes you would think I would be a good choice internship done, great CV( entrepreneur got me in contact with his HR director and we worked on my CV and interview skills etc to help me get a job) but the fact of the matter is, is that there are people with my degree and a few years experience that can’t get work, so me with only a qualification and no good experience will not get the job over the person with experience, companies are struggling they can’t afford to take on people with no experience. There are very few jobs. It’s not like I am spoilt for choice when it comes to work. 330,000 people a large percent 42 % specifically said they left because they felt they were forced. How can you bury your head so deep in the sand.
Conor, sure there’s a few holes in Julie’s story but answer me this: are you one of these people who believe that emigration is a “lifestyle” choice and sure it’s only grand for the youngsters to see a bit of the world before coming back all skilled up and all?
Conor really, why do you feel you have to insult me, this is exactly what you did last time I left a comment. Why not just debate about jobs in Ireland and emigration. Why resort to personal attacks?
Tell me how many jobs have been created in Ireland since the jobs plans, no schemes or jobs bridge?
How come long term unemployed increased?
How come the figure of 14% unemployment has not fallen significantly if there are all these jobs that I am just too stupid to get?
Explain to me why you insist it is me that is the problem, when 42% of the 330,000 people who emigrated said they had no other option?
If you doubt my intelligence will you explain to me why all my qualified friends and relatives are all making plans for emigration? Are they all stupid?
What colleges to you are not worth the paper they are written on, I presumed it would all depend on the own persons ability, someone in UCD might get very low results where as someone in DIT might get great marks, DIT has the job over UCD ?
Tell me how many jobs have been created in the last year?
How many of them were in the IT sector?
You seem to be so convinced I am a liar, I presume it is because you know all about job creation and growth in Ireland, or is it just that you are slightly ignorant.
Censored, if there are holes in my story it might have something to do with being grilled by Conor and nuttshell.
I finished college, went looking for work, went for a few interviews, most were looking for experience, did an internship, kept looking for work. Finally just took a partime Job in a bar. That is how I met the entrepreneur. Spoke with him, he sorted me out when he heard I was going to oz. I finished in June I looked until march, April then I decided Australia was my best option. That’s it, my comment above was just to explain that it wasn’t the leaving that is the problem it is the slow non existent investment in jobs and growth and the shrinking of the euro zone economy makes it hard because I don’t know when I can come home. Then came along Conor just like last time I left a comment on here. I think he might be being a bit more polite than last time.
You met an entrepreneur while working a part-time job in a bar who offered you a career in Australia!?! Please tell me you didn’t have to hand over money first!?! If you are telling the truth then I reckon you’ve been scammed! If not, then you may have a bright future in fictional writing!
Ye really have a way of picking out certain things and twisting them. Yes he is a local in the bar I work in. We got talking, I gave him my email he said he would help me out, I sent him my cv, so that he could get his HR director to contact me. We worked on interviews and things. Then I told him still no luck finding work so I was off to oz so he told me about the project and that he would find me a position. That simple. Now back with the head in the sand. Ye can’t talk a bit of sense just trying to make me out to be a liar, pathetic.
@Censored, for some emigration is at it always has been a lifestyle choice, go on the piss in Oz for a year etc. For others who’s skillsets don’t match what the Irish market can deliver it’s not.
@Julie, I never called you stupid, I mentioned that you probably didn’t do a good leaving and probably got your first in some parochial IT. Not all colleges are equal in Ireland and employers know this. TCD ranks top in the rankings, followed by the NUIs and DIT. You claim that you have a first, and cannot get an interview so I’m going to presume that you went to an IT like Tralee, Letterkenny or Sligo which are at the bottom of the League Tables in Ireland, which is reflected in their graduates demand by employers. A first from these colleges is not equal to a 2.2 from UCD because the standard is a lot lower. Lectures lecturing to a room full of people with 500 points are going to be lecturing at a higher and more in depth standards than those lecturing to a room full of people at 300 points.
If all of your friends are in the same boat as you then i’m going to presume that ye all went to the same parochial IT. I haven’t denied that long term employment has decreased but as a recent graduate I know for a fact that the employment market for a graduate isn’t as pessimistic as you make it out to be.
You have said before that you do not want to go into further training because you have completed a 4 year business degree and think that that should be enough? Well it often isn’t especially if you went to a lowly ranked college and didn’t do great in the leaving. Skill up and the world will be your oyster. The government provides free Springboard courses to the unemployed so there really is no excuse not to take it up.
No one is holding you back but yourself.
Conor no many went to UCC some went to Galway others were in Sligo, all different colleges some have masters some have Certs some degrees etc .
No I don’t need to further my skills, I have a job in oz. my skills are just fine.
Ya Conor you do like to repeat yourself. Exact same stuff you said to me the last time.
You know you shouldn’t make assumptions about people.
So answer the rest of my questions,
How many jobs have been created in the last year and in what sectors?
Why are there 450,000 unemployed if there is so much work?
What is the future predictions for growth in jobs?
Why are 5 businesses closing a day in Ireland?
Why have 300,000 people emigrated ?
Youth unemployment in Ireland is at 31% that’s after a massive number have emigrated, why is the unemployment so high when according to you we should have no problem finding work ?
It’s very easy to throw insults.
Conor ,that’s waffle you’re talking about colleges being more attractive to employer’s.While the latter may be held true fro other occupations like law fro example, I’ve personally worked in engineering roles in 3 large multinationals with a so called ‘parochial’ IT diploma, You just strike me as a young know it all upstart , that is clueless about life .I’ve seen you’re type often and the edges don’t be long being knocked off that type of personality type.
I’m extremely offended by your ‘eiltism’. Yes there is jobs out there but the’re not ideal for people who need to survive.Experience and qualifications and to get a job can supplemented by the ability to talk horseshite.
Julie, I’m talking about you as a graduate not employment in general.
How many of the unemployed youth have degrees? How many of those that do have relevant degrees from recognised colleges?
So I’m taking the fact that you completely glossed over the fact about your own college is that you went to some parochial IT and your degree is exactly as I expected and not up to scratch.
You refuse to upskill in order to meet the demands of Ireland’s (free) labour market, upskilling is free btw. Then you blame the government for not “creating” jobs in ballycabbageandpotatoes. What do you want them to do? Create a massive government quango for you to work in?
You also advocate taxing capital in order to pay for these government job creation schemes, capital has already been taxed when it has been earned. Doubly taxing it will disincentivise the creation of it, reducing the rewards for people to take risks in order to potentially create employment. Taxing capital will also reduce the amount of capital that can be invested in the private sector. This will create a multiplier effect causing more businesses to close. Economics bloody 101.
Ireland does have an unemployment problem, but a lot of it is due to people’s refusal to reskill and retrain. Reskilling is free, why don’t you take advantage of it? What percentage of Ireland’s long term unemployed have returned to college to reskill (for free)?
@ Bren Dan, Julie did Business, I did Business. I graduated last year, Julie graduated last year. I think I know more about the job market for business graduates than you do.
@ Julie , “Easy to throw insults”, you’ve called me a troll numerous times!
Conor you focus in on what suits you. You seem to think that you have a job every business graduate should have work, it doesn’t work like that.
I called you a troll, I think you began insulting me from the first comment you wrote to me( punctuation) and continued to do so in nearly every comment you wrote to me after.
Your knowledge of what is really happening to the economy in Ireland is very slim and fantasy.
I accept that ,maybe a parochial IT degree in business isn’t regarded highly, in the Business sector (and i can’t speak for that industry) but on the Technical side they are pretty well equipped and I know that people with qualifications can get pretty good jobs.
I agree with your point in upskilling. I was recently talking to a norwegian guy who lost his job and got a job a week later. He told me the major problem with Ireland, is that language learning is not really encouraged here like it is in other countries and to survive we must diversify and open ourselves to being multi lingual. I personally am learning chinese and I can read russian.
@Conor. Reskilling is not free. Those who have been let down by the state system of education initially are hardly going to go down that route again. Private colleges are the only ones with up to date facilities. Im guessing you probably already have a job lined up when you finish you’re education, guessing you’ll never really have a real world struggle, unfortunately.
@Reskilling is completely free for the unemployed. FACT. I went to a state run college and the facilities are perfectly fine. I’ve no idea what you’re sh*teing on about.
@Julie, you have a highly blinkered, negative and biased view of Ireland. Have fun in Australia because they aren’t fond of the Irish moan. There are loads of opportunities for business graduates in Ireland you obviously just have not looked hard enough.
Conor its’s 7,400 € p.a to go to NUI Maynooth for Computer Science.Do you honestly think the Government are going to pay all that for everyone who wants to go back and reskill .
@Bren Dan, the government actually already offers unemployed people to go back for free to do degrees…
You don’t have to pay fees, even the reg fee and the government pays for you to get the back to education allowance.
The Springboard scheme is also free to graduates of other disciplines to upskill into more relevant industries.
You have to be 9 months on Social welfare before you can avail of the back to education programme and it’s means tested too.It’s not that cut and dried.
Well if it’s means tested surely you could pay for it yourself?
Conor i believe you said education was free for everyone , if its means tested well its obviously isnt free for everyone . Duhhh
Surveys show that 99% of Surveys are rubbish
Sure that will be no problem , it’s in the 5 point plan – Fine Gael are creating 100,000 new jobs. And according to every government TD’s “we are creating jobs”, “we have turned a corner”, “the banks are lending to small businesses” …. Oh sorry, I forgot to take my “spin” tablets this morning.
The 100,000 jobs are in Canada.
I bet they’re chuffed with that finding. Totally unexpected results.
Wow! It took a survey to find this out?!
Didnt Lisbon = Jobs ? . Did I miss sonething?
Yes you did miss something…
FF/FG/Labour all swore blind that Ireland would be the beneficiaries, if we voted YES.
You missed the fact that these partys do not have a clue on how to run the economy. Their economic incompetence and ignorance is the primary reason we have had over 300,000 emigrate in the last 5 years. The current shower planned 50,000 per year emigrating, into their program for government.
They (FF/FG/Labour) are traitors and economic terrorists in my opinion. That is what you missed. You believed their spin and lies.
We need FF/FG/Labour out of Government, in order to get the ship on course to a sustainable future. These 3 partys are economically illiterate and reports like this one, do nothing to change my opinion.
They will sit there and tell you that these emmigrants are not economic emmigrants. They will tell you that they are opting to leave due to ‘lifestyle choices’.
+1 billion… wake up people of Ireland!!!!
Cathal, I voted NO twice .I know a federal europe is not a good thing. I knew very well Lisbon did not equal jobs. i studied Bernays and I can recognise spin when I see it .The reality now is that we prob will not have another chance to vote against Europe because that shitty European constitution is self amending.
It’s a shame they have to go , unless of course they want to travel, but there is no doubt we will have lost a generation
Why would anyone want to come back here? Most of us left here want out! I’ll swap my mortgage and job with anybody willing!
Speak for yourself Niall. I love Ireland, it’s not perfect but no where is. Great country with great people, ran by clowns but there is far more to life than bad banks and sh1t governments.
The glass is half full brother!
Tru Dat
Another minister ! Another agency ! Another quango ! More money for the likes of the author to produce glossy reports with findings that anyone with half a brain already knows !! No thanks
Ive lived abroad for 9 years, I think generally people are happy to be getting the oppurtunity to work elsewhere and see differant parts of the world. When we do go home it can be quite depressing frankly, all the talk is about austerity measures and lack of work. I do feel sympathy for the many who for whatever reasons cannot go, but it doesnt mean that all of those that do go arent happy.
Agreed. I left in 1998, totally intending to move back home again after a couple of years, but once I realised how much better my opportunities were and how much better ‘elsewhere’ suited me, that changed. I always wonder where the statisticians find their subjects for these surveys and articles too – do they only approach members of Irish clubs and the likes? I don’t think I’m in the minority to say I am not a member of anything officially linked back home. That’s not to say I don’t feel Irish or want anything to do with the place. But home is where I have hung my hat, and if anyone were to ask me if I had a melancholic urge to return to the auld country once great prospects and stability were guaranteed, the answer would be a fairly resounding no.
I definitely do not want to come back to a country that is fundamentally corrupt at its core. Nepotism, cronyism, a two tier health system. Bent politicians and a country where the poor are being treated like criminals. No thank you.
Irish GNP is €160 bn which employs 1,848,000 in the economy.
€4.4 bn is spent on new cars every year and transferred abroad which would employ an additional 50820.
Daft Irish Car Tax System is biased to promote purchase of new cars to get the low road tax and penalises those who do not have new cars (pre-2008). Swift reversal of this madness would deliver a lot of Irish jobs.
Conservation and restoration beats austerity any day! Ireland should promote car life longevity NOT scrappage!
131 & 132 NOT Green Jersey!
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http://www.CarTaxPetition.net
I completely agree with what your saying, but the government is already responding to this by raising the co2 car tax rates and they will continue to do so untill they are back to previous levels and beyond. Motoring in Ireland is possibly the highest taxed activity. And if less people drove and bought less cars and fuel they would hike up the tax in other areas in order to continue to supress the economy.. simply put your trying to explain economics to a room full of 160 odd clowns …
If i could leave i would and shut the door behind me
I can think of several reasons why I would not return to Ireland, even if I had the promise of a job it would still take a lot for me to move back to Ireland. Besides family I would have no other desire to return home.
Frankly I’m curious how they have statistics to show how many people have left the country to work abroad, do they just draw a conclusion from people who are not working and are not drawing the dole? I didn’t declare that I was leaving the country so I’m curious how they know who has emigrated or not.
It’s a shame they have to leave home unless of course they want to travel, and it’s true we will have lost a generation, our government should hang their head in shame.they have done little or nothing to create jobs to keep these young people at home
Didn’t UCC say something very different only last month…
Something very different? Then we need another report to find out the truth. Set up another quango. Meet for 2 years. Claim generous expenses. Produce white paper. Present to Minister. Do nothing.
A lot of the irish are no good to work are missing there mammy that’s all that wrong . Lay off the drink and drugs ye clowns
A job in Ireland is like a fart in space.
Somebody promise me a job and I will move to Ireland in a heartbeat.
I am gone nearly 7 years and I don’t feel anything about going home. I miss the people a lot and the shorthand you have with people you grew up with but it’s more than the lack of jobs that keeps me away. The churches still run the schools and politics haven’t changed a fraction, same cronyism and backward unsympathetic policies. To me Ireland is in the dark ages in so many ways and now I’m a father I’m glad my son doesn’t have to grow up there.
Youre kids arent irish if theyre not raised here. Thats one reason i couldnt leave.
Tommy, can you send in your certificate of “true Irishness” please. It’s only fair that we have the right to check that you’re a real authentic Irish man.
Maybe we should focus on making the country a better place so that people don’t have to leave.
BULL SHIT!!
You a clown
Really upsetting to see how many people knock those who leave! I have lived in Australia for 2.5 years now with my fiancé as both the science and building industries in Ireland were going down the pan.
I had worked in numerous part time and contract roles but not always in my profession. The thoughts of being on the dole and having to queue in that office to sign on every month was just too depressing. Staying at home was going to be a waste of time professionally, financially and mentally.
We always wanted to travel but never intended staying here long term. We are getting married in Ireland next year and would love not to have to come back after it, but the sad reality is that neither of us would get decent jobs at home.
Not all emigrants do the “Irish thing” and drink in the same Irish bars with the same people every weekend! However, having some Irish friends when you are this far from home can really ease the homesickness.
If you have been fortunate enough to work in an industry that is still hiring in Ireland, well done and I hope it stays good for you, but please don’t come here, judge those who have emigrated and paint us all with the same brush.
And as for those, who haven’t been as fortunate, just couldn’t be arsed leaving their little nests and are happy to plod along with no ambition/drive, I feel sorry for ye!
I’m sick of reports. Anyone for the last choc ice?
Most of those who want to return can stay where they are especially the drunken louts in Oz, we’ve enough problems.
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