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Question: Are you in favour of an EU Army?

All candidates were against the introduction of an EU army.

In our audit of the Midlands North West European election candidates, we asked candidates to answer questions on nine of the most pressing issues facing Ireland and Europe in the coming years.

Are you in favour of an EU Army? 

Brendan Smith

No. Neither do I think it is a realistic prospect. Ireland is constitutionally prohibited from participating in EU common defence.

This Constitutional safeguard was inserted by the people as part of Nice II, so the scaremongering from the far-left and far-right has no basis whatsoever.

Fianna Fáil is fully committed to maintain neutrality as a core principle of our foreign policy, backed up by the triple lock mechanism.

Saoirse McHugh

Nope.

Maria Walsh

No. It shocks me that other candidates are spreading untruths about our defence forces in this campaign, they are scare mongering, toying with our neutrality, which offends me as a member of the Reserve Defence Forces. We joined the EU for peace, prosperity and opportunity. As candidates we have a responsibility to work for these objectives.

Peter Casey

We need to withdraw from Pesco and let the other interested countries work away. We need to take guns and weapons out of Irish politics, there’s enough violence on our streets and we need to protect brand Ireland.

Anne Rabbitte

Fianna Fáil is opposed to the creation of an EU-wide army as it would breach Ireland’s central principle of neutrality, which stretches back to the Second World War.

Members of our Defence Forces are trained to a very high standard and Ireland plays an important role in peacekeeping missions around the world.

Our active neutrality will guide any role Ireland plays in European Defence Agency programmes, underpinned, of course, by the triple lock mechanism.

Mairead McGuinness

No, I am against an EU army – I also don’t think it is likely or imminent. There is a debate within the EU about increasing security and defence cooperation given global instability, conflicts on the EU’s doorstep, greater risk of cyber-crime, and major terrorist attacks.

We should be part of this debate to ensure our traditions are respected. There’s a lot of scaremongering from some sitting Irish MEPs about an EU army.

Yes, some EU voices are in favour – but there is little appetite for this outside France and Germany. There are four other member states with traditions of neutrality (Austria, Finland, Malta and Sweden). Decisions on common defence have to be made unanimously by all EU countries, so it cannot be done over our head.

I am against an EU army but I am in favour of greater EU cooperation on security and defence, as long as our involvement respects our military neutrality. We are already involved in EU civilian and military missions relating to peace-keeping – and we want our Defence Forces to have the best equipment and training (which EU cooperation can help provide) so that they can carry out their tasks as safely and effectively as possible.

Fidelma Healy Eames

NO.

Matt Carthy

No, Sinn Féin is absolutely opposed to an EU army  - we want neutrality enshrined in the constitution. Those who want an EU army should vote for Fine Gael or Fianna Fáil whose groups in the European Parliament are cheerleaders for the creation of an EU army.

We often hear that the European Union’s greatest achievement is that it has been a successful ‘project of peace’.

Peace projects don’t need armies! I am totally opposed to an EU Army, to Pesco and to the creation of a European Defence Fund. Sinn Féin has strongly criticised the Irish government for being complicit in the relentless EU drive towards militarisation, against the wishes of the Irish people.

In April, MEPs voted to establish a European Defence Fund and finance it with €13 billion of taxpayers’ money – which advocates the further militarisation of the EU and Member States; promotes an arms race; and subsidises investments in defence and military research and development, in spite of the social crisis and environmental impact of these activities. This is money that should be spent on investment, infrastructure and on supporting family farmers who have not got a fair deal.

Cyril Brennan

Totally against it. I want to get Ireland out of Pesco because it commits us to increase spending on defence by five times. We should be investing in renewables to lessen climate change – not guns and bombs.

Michael O’Dowd

No. And I think Ireland’s membership of Pesco strains the triple-lock process to breaking point.

Patrick Greene 

No I am not in favour of an EU army for a multitude of reasons! It must be remembered that the Irish people have forgotten that we do not have an army, we have a defence force.

Armies are for attacking other nations; defence forces are for defending a nation. The Irish nation has a world-class reputation for being independent, objective and honest in our international dealings especially where military conflict is the issue.

Aligning ourselves with armies that have an imperialist history of atrocities is a backward step. Apart from our defence force being allowed to be used for aggressive attacks on weaker nations the costs incurred to our nation of death, injury and loss of treasure is not allowed in law, that is do no harm or injury to others.

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    Mute Hugh Fogerty
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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:38 AM

    Nothing but a money making scheme, how many accidents have been on this stretch of road? Soon these ‘safety’ cameras will be generating millions, at the expense of the motorist, on every motorway in Ireland.

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    Mute Edward Reid
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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:50 AM

    @Hugh Fogerty: not really. They work really well in the UK. 120kmph is more than enough for anyone to be doing on any road in Ireland. If you know you will end up with points and a fine you just won’t speed! Simple.

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    Mute Leadóg
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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:52 AM

    @Hugh Fogerty: If people stick to the limit, they won’t get fined. It’s that simple.

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    Mute Tommy Roche
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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:05 AM

    @Hugh Fogerty: Very easy way to throw a spanner in the works of this money making scheme.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:36 AM

    @Hugh Fogerty: you probably think taxation is theft too, yeah?

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    Mute Dave O'Shaughnessy
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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:40 AM

    @Hugh Fogerty: If you’re thick enough to get penalty points on this stretch of motorway, and it’s very clearly indicated that it’s an average-speed zone, then you deserve to be fined and get penalty points.

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    Mute James Kerins
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    Apr 25th 2022, 9:28 AM

    @Hugh Fogerty: you don’t have much faith in the intelligence levels of Irish motorists do you? Only way this will generate money is if people speed.

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    Mute Cathal Keeshan
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    Apr 25th 2022, 9:42 AM

    @Hugh Fogerty: why would you need to go any faster than the speed limit? Standard of driving in this country is appalling.

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    Mute kevinhunt101
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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:00 AM

    @Edward Reid: vast majority of motorways in Europe are 130km/h… 120 would be low compared

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    Mute Paul Furey
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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:33 AM

    @Hugh Fogerty: only the BMW and Mercedes drivers need worry.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:52 AM

    @Hugh Fogerty: Quite a lot actually it is a spot that, quite a lot of rain water stays on because it was built on a bog and has been a lot of accidents with aquaplaning.

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    Mute John
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    Apr 25th 2022, 11:04 AM

    @Paul Furey: You can add Audi to that list as well.

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    Mute Anthony Guinnessy
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    Apr 25th 2022, 11:40 AM

    @Brendan Nolan: quite a lot is an interesting quantum, not sure if I said not very much would that be as big a number? Without actual figures it’s all conjecture. I’ve never seen an accident on that stretch of road.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 12:54 PM

    @Brendan Nolan: so what you are saying is that stretch of road was badly engineered?

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    Mute Thomas Meaney
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    Apr 25th 2022, 1:09 PM

    @Saigionsive: taxation is theft when it’s not used for what it was intended.

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    Mute Hugh O'Keeffe
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    Apr 25th 2022, 5:03 PM

    @Hugh Fogerty: every day there are accidents on these roads. I don’t think speed is the problem though so this figure won’t change.

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    Mute Richard
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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:20 AM

    If compliance was below 70% on a road, would one not think to assess if the 120kph limit was still correct? Maybe that was a sign 130kph or higher would be suited.

    * fixed comment – give me edit!

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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:56 AM

    @Richard: I’m not sure. If you give more people end up taking more. They would push to 140/150 if the legal limit was 130. I think the majority of people stick to 120 as it is, only some people think they should be allowed to do as they wish whether or not it puts anyone else in danger or not. I’m all for each to their own but if you cause an accident just because your a macho man showing of or whatever the reason and it killed my family or kids it changes the situation. Slow down, enough families have suffered already.

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    Mute Roger Bond
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    Apr 25th 2022, 9:05 AM

    @Richard: We need to start reducing speed limits.
    Fuel consumption at 130 km/HR would be much higher than say 100km/HR..
    Electric cars are not suited to high speed as they have huge battery consumption above 100 km/ HR.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:02 AM

    @Roger Bond: that should be a person own personal choice and use of money to spend it burning fuel or reducing their electric range. 130km in most European countries as the norm on motorways

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    Mute Colm de Cleir
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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:50 PM

    @Richard: What’s the point? Driving at 130kph instead of 120 saves you about 24 seconds on a 10km journey. Are we really in that much of a hurry that it’s worth the increased danger and fuel consumption? If we say Limerick to Dublin is about 200km which is a long journey in Ireland, that’s just 8 mins knocked off the entire journey! And that’s assuming a direct motorway with no slow-downs or stops. Each increase above that gives you less and less saving on time.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:26 PM

    @Roger Bond: that’s why you should not buy toy cars.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:21 AM

    Another nanny state intervention. “if you get to the next camera too quickly you will be flagged on our server.” How about people just follow the safety rules? Seems that the government has taken over the church for “rule following” and being forced into submission.
    How about free will, trusting people to do the right thing and give them a ticket if they are caught speeding by a Garda officer?

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    Mute John Johnes
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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:51 AM

    @Seeking Truth: its more simple than this tbh.

    It was simply put in to make money.

    None of them gives a flying f… about people.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:09 AM

    @John Johnes: Seems to be a way to let people decide if they want to throw money away. The average speed zone will be well flagged on approach.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:26 AM

    @Seeking Truth: the issue with that is that not every person speeding is caught by a speed camera van, as there simply aren’t enough of them in place at each location. I think this new system will be a positive one in that it still gives people the option to speed, or not, while guaranteeing that they are caught if they do. Their choice, with consequences for the wrong one.

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    Mute Hugh Mc Donnell
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    Apr 25th 2022, 9:10 AM

    @Seeking Truth: so if you think this is a nanny state should we drop health and safety in the workplace and let the ordinary worker set the the standards or have none and more deaths. Should we not have regulations for electrical devices and import potential fire hazards from every country in a race to the bottom.

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    Mute Nick Caffrey
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    Apr 25th 2022, 9:19 AM

    @Seeking Truth: Because, left to their own ‘free will’, a lot of people behave badly.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:11 AM

    @Seeking Truth: we’ll they have being allowing people the choice till this morning, the result has been 6 deaths and 54 serious accidents on this particular stretch of road so if given some people haven’t kept to the speed limit they have opted to enforce the speed limit. I don’t understand the issue here, what is the issue with keeping to the 120 limit? Are you so important and or in such a rush that speed limits don’t apply to you?

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    Mute Anthony Guinnessy
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    Apr 25th 2022, 11:46 AM

    @Peter: is that in the past week? That’s quite a lot tbf.

    Do you have a source for those numbers? We’re they in dry conditions or other conditions?

    Personally I think the speed limit should be variable, higher in dry weather and low traffic volumes, lower in bad weather and or high traffic volumes. We have regional roads that used to be safe for 60mph with older less safe cars yet we are now told we have to drive 80kph on them now. Its not about safety it’s about revenue generation.

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    Mute pkunzip doom2.zip
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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:05 AM

    As cars are being made safer and faster we’re lowering limits, doesn’t make sense, speed limit should be raised to 140 on major motorways in the right hand lane anyway

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:30 AM

    @pkunzip doom2.zip: at 110 KPH versus 120 KPH I get an extra 10% more kilometers from my tank of diesel. That saves around 11.00 euro per fill.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:34 AM

    @pkunzip doom2.zip: if I set my speed limiter to 110 KPH versus 120 KPH I get an extra 10% distance. At current diesel prices that is a saving of €11.00 per fill.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:22 AM

    @Rudy de Groot: that’s great for you, well done. When I drive my leaf at 115km I get 250km from a €6.40 charge but when I want to overtake some dckhead in a leaf doing 115km and I’m in my Golf I don’t want to 3 points for driving safely, well within the car and drivers capabilities

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    Mute Anthony Guinnessy
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    Apr 25th 2022, 11:47 AM

    @Rudy de Groot: you’d get even more out of your tank if you drove at 80kph

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    Apr 25th 2022, 1:44 PM

    @Anthony Guinnessy: not everyone is concerned about their mileage as you seem to be, if you drive at 80km/h on a motorway you deserve a fine for dangerous driving

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:01 AM

    Can these camera be used to catch drivers that do not Indicate when overtaking and undertaking ??

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:03 AM

    @lorcmulv: the answer is in their name!

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    Mute John Johnes
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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:46 AM

    @lorcmulv: and the roundabouts. In a normal world – whoever does not use their indicators are being fined.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:20 AM

    If compliance was below 70% on a road, would one. It think you assess if the 120kph limit was still correct? Maybe that was a sign 130kph or higher would be suited.

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    Mute Leitrim303
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    Apr 25th 2022, 7:41 AM

    just as well my old van wont go over 120km

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    Mute Peter
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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:05 AM

    It’s about time these got rolled out, they need to be put on every stretch of motorway in the country along with variable speed limits. Both have been proven to work for reducing accidents and deaths and traffic flow. If people are driving as per the rules of the road then they have nothing to worry about. For those saying it’s a money making racket I would say they are the very people that are being targeted, not to make money from them but to change the way they drive so they are complying with the posted speed limits.

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    Mute Anthony Guinnessy
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    Apr 25th 2022, 11:51 AM

    @Peter: why then are most motorway speed limits higher in Europe? Ever heard of the auto bahn? “Measurements from the German state of Brandenburg in 2006 showed average speeds of 142 km/h (88 mph) on a 6-lane section of autobahn in free-flowing conditions.[3]”

    ^^ thats a proper road network and just as safe as ours.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:26 AM

    I find if I put my speed limiter to 110 KPH I get an extra 10% from my tank of diesel. Considering the cost of fuel it makes sense to reduce speed and save money (and be kinder to the environment too)

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    Apr 25th 2022, 11:48 AM

    @Rudy de Groot: I’d say you’ll find if you put your speed limiter to 80kph you’ll save even more. What’s your point?

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    Mute Nelius Byrne
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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:48 AM

    Have we invested anything in preventing drivers from travelling in the wrong direction on this motorway?

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    Mute FliepFlap
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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:51 AM

    Ireland catching up with the rest of Europe.

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    Mute Anthony Guinnessy
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    Apr 25th 2022, 11:52 AM

    @FliepFlap: Ireland falling further behind the rest of Europe. Safer cars, better roads should mean higher speed limits.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 12:03 PM

    Drove it this morning, main issue was drivers in the overtaking lane doing 120, makes it difficult when you come up behind a slow vehicle and cant pass for the queue of cars cruising in the overtaking lane.
    Then once past the second camera off they are like rockets…

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    Apr 25th 2022, 9:26 AM

    If there was a bit of dirt causing the number plate reader to record an 8 or 9 out of a 3 or perhaps a 7 out of a 1 there will be no actual photo of the car showing the make, model and colour of the vehicle so you could not dispute the alleged offence. Normally you are innocent until proven guilty. With this system you are guilty…full stop.

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    Mute Paul Furey
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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:37 AM

    Good grief, the amount of whinging here on this Monday morning. Don’t speed! I do a lot of motorway driving and get over 200km extra on a full tank by driving 95-100kmh on the motorways. It means an extra 10 to 15 mins on a drive from Dublin to Kilkenny but its worth it.

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    Mute Anthony Guinnessy
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    Apr 25th 2022, 11:56 AM

    @Paul Furey: no its not, an extra 16 minutes a day each way would be 24hrs extra a year (conservatively). That’s 3 working days you’re giving up per year. Over a lifetime you are losing 147 working days.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 12:40 PM

    @Anthony Guinnessy: what a waste of sums. Leave earlier.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 9:38 AM

    We know where they are hit cruise control at 118 kmph then away u go

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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:04 AM

    @James Johnson: all cars are 4-5km overstated so 124 and you’d be doing 120

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    Apr 25th 2022, 10:06 AM

    Be warned if passing these at night they shine a light across the motorway that’s absolutely blinding

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    Mute Mark G
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    Apr 25th 2022, 11:21 AM

    Years and years behind…

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    Apr 25th 2022, 2:11 PM

    It’s a step in the right direction, but it’s too little too late considering these have been around for years in other countries. Motorways are built for speed. How many deaths actually occur on them? Meanwhile the technology exists to measure your speed wherever you go! Most runners have watches that give all sorts of statistics about your run. Put one of these on every car that reports safe driving back to a central server. Compliant people get a discount on their car insurance. The discount is paid for by the reduction in claims this will no doubt bring about. If you frame it as a bonus for being safe rather than a fine for speeding you’ll get much better buy-in.

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    Apr 25th 2022, 1:09 PM

    What about teleportation.?

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    Apr 25th 2022, 8:37 PM

    Why must everyone else slow down just because of a minority of people who can’t drive properly?

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    Apr 25th 2022, 5:32 PM

    I’m sure they’ll be really useful on the M50.

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    Apr 26th 2022, 2:31 AM

    What happens if you drive too slow, surely the concertina effect is equally the same as too fast but slightly more dangerous e.g overtaking.

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