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Ferguson: Protests, violence, over news that police officer won't be charged over shooting of teen

There are peaceful protests against the verdict across the US and riots have broken out again in Ferguson.
  • Officer Darren Wilson won’t be charged over shooting of teen Michael Brown
  • Brown family ask for peaceful protests
  • Protests and violence break out after news emerges
  • Appeals for calm from President Obama
  • 29 people have been arrested so far

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA has appealed for calm after protests broke out following the news that a police officer won’t be charged over the shooting of a teen.

A grand jury decided not to press charges against a white officer, Darren Wilson, who shot dead the black teen, Michael Brown, in Missouri.

President Barack Obama and the family of late 18-year-old Michael Brown have now appealed in vain for calm amid riots after a prosecutor said a grand jury had found the policeman acted in self-defence.

Photos and videos on Twitter and Vine have been emerging that show a number of cars on fire, a fire near the City Hall, missiles being thrown and tear gas being used on protestors.

St Louis County police have been tweeting throughout the unrest, and said that there have been 29 arrests so far around Ferguson.

In a press conference, police also spoke out about the unrest:

The shooting of Brown back in August sparked weeks of sometimes violent protests and a nationwide debate about forceful police tactics and race relations in America.

St Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch said Officer Darren Wilson had fired 12 times after getting into an “altercation” with Brown, and that the jury had found no grounds to file charges.

As McCulloch rounded off his summary of the grand jury’s decision, Brown’s mother burst into tears and the crowd began to chant: “Hey, hey, ho, ho! These killer cops have got to go.”

Ferguson An injured man is escorted away from the streets where protesters gather AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

Members of an angry crowd outside the police station where Wilson had been threw bottles and stones. A police car was set alight and nearby stores looted.

Riot officers responded with tear gas, batons and flash grenades, and running battles broke out in the streets of the St Louis suburb, with armoured cars moving slowly through the area.

Looters smashed their way into a mobile phone store opposite the police headquarters and ransacked it. An AFP journalist was hurt when he was hit in the face by a hurled brick.

Pam Bailey, a retiree from St Louis in her 60s, said she had expected the decision. “I’ve lived long enough to know that African Americans are not considered human beings,” she said.

Protest marches began in several more US cities — including New York, Chicago and the capital Washington DC — but there were no immediate reports of unrest outside Missouri.

Outside the White House in Washington, a crowd waved signs urging the government to “Stop racist police terror.”

Inside the executive mansion, Obama made a rapidly-organized televised appearance to appeal for calm in the Midwestern town, echoing the sentiments of the dead teenager’s family.

“Michael Brown’s parents have lost more than anyone. We should be honouring their wishes,” Obama said.

“I also appeal to the law enforcement officials in Ferguson and the region to show care and restraint in managing peaceful protests that may occur.”

His call for calm fell on deaf ears in Ferguson, where police were pelted with bricks and bottles and responded with volleys of tear gas.

“It shows that our justice system is corrupt,” said a 21-year-old sales representative from Ferguson who gave his name as Josh. “There’s room for peaceful protests and there’s room for violent protests.”

McCulloch told reporters the evidence presented to the jury had shown Wilson had shot as a legitimate act of self-defence during a tussle that broke out as he was responding to a robbery.

He said the “altercation” had broken out as Wilson was sitting in his patrol car and Brown was at the window. Wilson testified to the jury that Brown leaned into the car and attacked him, grabbing his gun.

A picture taken after the incident and released by the prosecutor showed Wilson with a very slight bruise to his right cheek.

“During the altercation, two shots were fired by Officer Wilson while still inside the vehicle,” McCulloch said.

Twelve shots 

Ferguson AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

After these shots were fired, Wilson is said to have left the car to pursue Brown, who at some point turned on him. Ten shots were fired and the young man was killed, hit six times.

In August, some early witnesses had said that Brown had his hands up and was surrendering when he was killed. But McCulloch said the physical evidence and other witnesses contradicted this account.
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“Decisions on a matter as serious as charging an individual with a crime simply cannot be decided on anything less than a complete critical examination of all available evidence,” he said.

In a statement, the Brown family said: “We are profoundly disappointed that the killer of our child will not face the consequence of his actions.

“We respectfully ask that you please keep your protests peaceful,” the family added, calling for legal reform. “Answering violence with violence is not the appropriate reaction.”

Plea for non-violence 

After the grand jury announcement, Attorney General Eric Holder said that a separate federal civil rights investigation into the incident and Ferguson policing in general would continue.

Ferguson White House Protestors observe a moment of silence as they gather in front of the White House in Washington AP / Press Association Images AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images

Ferguson’s mainly African American community of 21,000 has been on edge for days, braced for further protests should the officer not be indicted.

The mostly black suburb has an overwhelmingly white police force and residents complain of years of racial prejudice and heavy handed police tactics.

In the days leading up to the decision, Missouri’s governor declared a state of emergency and called up the National Guard last week in readiness. The FBI has also deployed extra personnel.

- © AFP 2014 – with additional reporting Aoife Barry

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:55 AM

    Genuine protesters don’t immediately loot a mobile phone shop

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:18 AM

    Looters gonna loot

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    Mute Francie Coffey
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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:32 AM

    According to Obama, – “it’s an understandable reaction”
    This POTUS is not helping at all.
    A thug was shot by a cop, The cop was not charged, since the shooting was justified, – so all the other thugs and looters decide to go on a rampage, stealing or destroying other peoples property.
    Why has this become stereotypical behaviour of a certain minority…??
    - is it a sense of ‘entitlement’, – or is it genetic…??

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    Mute Seán Gallagher
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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:41 AM

    Francie,

    For one you’re massively understating the case. A thug was not shot. An unarmed man was. Whether or not the grand jury decided to excuse him im relatively sure everyone would have been of the opinion that the guy shouldn’t have ended up dead.

    Secondly, what are you implying? What minority do you think might be predisposed to acts of violent protest?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:00 AM

    Seán, – why don’t you take you tiny violin & play it on the streets of Ferguson, – I wonder how long you’d last…??

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:13 AM

    Sean. Francie is correct in his original statement “a thug was shot by a Cop”. Encase you forgot that self same thug robbed a convenience store only an hour previously. That same thug viciously attacked a Police Officer in the course of his duty and attempted to take his gun then proceeded to charge him outside of the patrol car. This was no 7st waif that wouldn’t say boo to a mouse. He was a very large, very aggressive criminal thug.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:23 AM

    Mick, he was suspected of robbing a convenience store. In a civilised society that means having your day in court, not being summarily executed by cops.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:33 AM

    He wasn’t executed. He was shot by a Police Officer defending himself. And that comes from a grand jury, which I may add was called for by Browns family.
    And with such overwhelming evidence against him (the eye witness statement and the video evidence) had he gone to trial do you honestly think their would be a not guilty verdict?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:04 AM

    They do when the police are allowed to execute their children in the street and get away with it.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:15 AM

    So. David you ate prepared to dismiss all the evidence presented to the Grand Jury in favor of what? Comments on Facebook?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:26 AM

    ‘According to Obama, – “it’s an understandable reaction” Obama is just playing to his tribe. No need to seek votes for re-election. His main concern now is not upsetting his celeb buddies like Jay-Z and Beyonce.
    The biggest bluffer in US presidential history bar none. He should be still a community organiser in Chicago.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 12:22 PM

    Government sponsored agent provocateurs do loot and cause riots.

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/08/ferguson-witness-government-planting-provocateurs-neighborhoods/

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    Nov 25th 2014, 12:28 PM

    @ Francie-

    Did you actually say ‘is it genetic?’?????

    In fairness, that is very, very offensive.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 1:38 PM

    The ho’s and the bro’s love a good looting riot

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:27 PM

    Anne De Croix.
    You have absolutely every right to be offended, by the truth.
    according to the FBI’s most recent homicide statistics, Blacks represent 13% of the population but commit 50% of the murders.
    In the U.S. in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.
    A 2012 study by the Department of Justice’s Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention revealed that in 2010 black youths committed six times more murders, three times more rapes, 10 times more robberies and three times more assaults than did their white counterparts.
    Even black civil rights advocates such as Van Jones, President Barack Obama’s former green jobs Czar, confirmed these findings. In his October 5, 2005 article, “Are Blacks a Criminal Race…??

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:48 PM

    A thug who previously had robbed a store and beat up the person who tried to stop him. A thug who was found with marijuana in his system. A thug who resisted arrest and attacked a cop and who was justifiably shot. False rage from people false flag from Sharpton and others tying to relive the 60′s many who are being imported from outside the community. The sad part is that it will be mostly neighborhood black owned shops that will be destroyed and legitimate grievances with neighborhood policing will go unaddressed and larger businesses will not locate to an unstable community. In the South they call it a lynch mob where brainless people acting on emotion in spite of the facts take the law into their own hands.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 4:16 PM

    He was a thug, he had just robbed a store and then assaulted a police officer, calling him a thug is being nice.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 4:18 PM

    One question, did white people take to the streets and riot and loot after the OJ Simpson trial ? I’ll leave it there.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 4:26 PM

    Neither. It’s the reaction of a people who have been forced into the margins of society and have learnt to fear and hate it. The battle of the bog side and London riots were born of the same oppression. This unfortunately is human nature; when you are made not feel apart of society you end up making your own anti society that ends up destroying itself and everything around it. We see it in the favelas in Brazil and every slum across geography and history.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 4:27 PM

    White rage against progress is what some people see.

    Anyway, I was born a white in South Africa and grew up a privileged Protestant in Belfast but nonetheless, despite my impeccable right wing credentials, I really, really don’t like racism.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ferguson-wasnt-black-rage-against-copsit-was-white-rage-against-progress/2014/08/29/3055e3f4-2d75-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html

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    Nov 25th 2014, 4:29 PM

    The kid was shot 8 times- unarmed, now stone dead.

    Is that really reasonable in your opinion?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 10:30 PM

    Absolutely brilliant article; couldn’t agree more.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:38 AM

    The only people in America who play the racial card are black, this is a complete joke !!! They called for a grand jury, they got it, then they said it was wrong. Sitting here state side watching the news live, shots fired, looting, cars and businesses burning, unbelievable!!! Thing is it’s a predominantly black community, who won’t have jobs to go to tomorrow ? That’s right members of the black community, guess they have achieved their grand ambition ? The kid attacked a police officer, assaulted him and tried to grab his gun, he got himself killed, no one else.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:30 AM

    Oh is there not still tension between the Irish amd British?
    America and any country that used people of colour (black/indian) for slavery will still have massive social divisions today.

    I mean it could be said about any other ethnicity being used as slaves but the use of black people and how they had been defined (as sub-human) is something that cant be put away as easily.
    And the fact is in parts of America race is still a factor.

    However I do think this case could be just as important if they omitted the race of the victim and police officer.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:41 AM

    There is no tension between the Irish and the British.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:05 AM

    I get on very well with my predominantly British colleagues and have had no trouble since I’ve been over here …

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:13 AM

    White slavery was also common.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:54 AM

    Saying “they” called for it and “they” didn’t like the result is a bit of a generalisation, no?

    Some elements protested, some rioted, some appealed for calm, some demanded an inquiry. And some didn’t like the result.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:39 AM

    Over 70 hours of evidence were heard by jurors before making their decision and the county prosecutor said “the most significant challenges of the investigation included non-stop rumours on social media that were based on little if any solid, accurate information”.

    I guess those now rioting already had their minds made up based on these rumours regardless of the actual evidence in the case.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:55 AM

    He also said that some witnesses changed the

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:57 AM

    *their accounts and that some witness statements contradicted the physical evidence. All this was known to the jury when they came to their decision.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:49 AM

    Of course you could say the same about the Ferguson PD, whose immediate response was to say “absolutely nothing to see here”, then release a video of an apparent robbery, then be forced to deny that they had meant to suggest that the shooter actually knew about it at the time. They hardly come out of this with any credit.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:51 AM

    Then again, if they spent their budget on dash cams, rather than armoured personnel carriers, CS gas canisters and full military body armour, we’d have been able to see what happened weeks ago, and it wouldn’t have looked like a huge whitewash.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:17 AM

    Emily. There was no “apparent robbery”. There was a robbery where he was positively identified by the store clerk he assaulted and by the CCTV. Btw the store that he robbed was subsequently burnt to the ground because of the evidence against Brown.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:33 AM

    “Explaining the jurors’ decision, state prosecutor Robert McCulloch said their job had been to separate fact from fiction, and that some witness statements had been contradicted by physical evidence.”

    In other words, those witnesses lied to get the result they wanted.
    The comments by Obama are also reprehensible. It is not for a politiacl leader of a country yet he has again.
    Just like he did with the Tryavon Martin case and the Henry Louis gates arrest.
    It was a cynical ploy to furnish votes – in the past two elections Obama got 93% of the black vote in America.

    That country is hurtling headlong into a race war. It is only a matter a timing.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 10:37 AM

    When the government of a country openly states that imprisoning, torturing, executing and detaining suspects for years upon years with no trial, no jury, no chance of even hearing the accusations against them never mind offering a defence, that policy and attitude will manifest all the way down to the police. Brutal leaders in brutal governments leads to brutal and disproportionate police

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    Nov 25th 2014, 10:56 AM

    Very worthwhile video for anyone interested in US law by a former US judge:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN9n6cVQp4I

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:01 AM

    Blacks don’t believe in justice. They want moddly coddling and such.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:05 AM

    The Grand jury allowed the police to execute a black teenager in the street.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 1:53 PM

    Jonboy, for a man who claims to only go on facts, you seem to have conveniently disregarded the facts in this case, as presented in evidence to the court.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:07 PM

    I have not disregarded any facts. I do not dispute the findings. But a fact being overlooked here is that agents of the US, whether it is the police, the CIA or presidents, are time and time again taking on the roles of prosecution, judge and jury all at the same time and that is WRONG and is in direct contradiction to the US constitution and the values of freedom and liberty which the US supposedly holds dear. Watch the video and then come back to me and defend the treasonous actions of your government

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:15 PM

    Sorry to disappoint you Jonboy but its not my government.
    Sorry to disappoint you again but there’s zero evidence that police brutality was a factor in this case.
    Btw, next time your life is in imminent danger from an assailant be sure to hold a full trial before taking action. Let me know how you get on…

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:46 PM

    Leaf you could never disappoint me because i expect nothing from you except fascist tripe and unconditional support for your hero: terrorist barrack obambush. i don’t care where you are from, i just hope you don’t reproduce. And if my life is ever in imminent danger from an assailant (provided that I’m a trained and professional police officer and competent to carry a gun) i’ll be sure to shoot 12 bullets and let you know how i got on

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:48 PM

    Classy Jonboy

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    Nov 25th 2014, 4:33 PM

    @Jay McGregor
    “Blacks don’t believe in justice. They want moddly coddling and such.”

    Are you completely off your nut or what? Seriously, that sort of comment is just ignorant.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 5:22 PM

    Jon when a police officer feels his life is in danger he has the right to be judge , jury and executioner . It’s call an act of self defence . Every police officer or soldier has a right o take a life to protect his own life or the lifes of others .

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    Nov 25th 2014, 5:43 PM

    Oh really Tommy? Who says he has the ‘right’? You do, ok maybe you’re right. So lets extrapolate that out.

    When a police officer feels his life is in danger he has the right to kill someone to protect himself and others.
    When a CIA agent feels that his neighbours life is in danger he has the right to kill someone to protect himself and others.
    When the government feels that anyones life is in danger they have the right to kill to protect themselves and others.

    Is that what you are saying? This is exactly the argument Bush and Blair used when they lied to the world that Saddam had WMDs and then killed the hundreds of thousands of innocent people including babies. It was self defence after all right? Because lives were in danger. BUT THEY WERE WRONG! They admitted they were wrong and countless hundreds of thousands of innocent people died as a result. Is that ok because they ‘thought’ they were acting in self defence???

    And what if an officer just happens to get it wrong? What happens if the officers life wasn’t actually in danger? What if just 1 completely innocent defenceless person gets killed as a result of this ‘law’ you defend because an officer made a mistake? I’ll tell you what happens. You have a system with no justice, no law, no right or wrong, just chaos and the law of the jungle.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 5:55 PM

    Jonboy, this may come as news to you but here at home you too have the right to kill someone in a legitimate act of self-defence, ie. to act as judge, jury and executioner if you have a genuine and reasonable belief that your life is under threat.

    Either way its pretty clear you aren’t really interested in the particulars of the Michael Brown case – you just want to use the thread to go on a general rant about US foreign policy etc. etc.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 5:58 PM

    And what about those soldiers in baghdad that opened fire killing a dozen helpless and innocent people? They were just having fun/hated iraqis/whatever reason in the world u wish to come up with. They get away with it because they just say it was ‘self defence’. So how do you stop rogue officers/soldiers/goverments when self defence is a size fits all get out clause? You cant!

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:06 PM

    Presuming you’re referring to the Haditha killings, its disgracful that none of those involved faced jail time for their actions.
    I think you’re on the wrong thread though.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:19 PM

    Wow Avina, first green thumb i ever gave you, although im sceptical of your sincerity.

    Yes youre right about those killings. But if you read my original post here you will see this is not a rant about US foreign policy. My rant is a direct response to a defender of killing for self defence. This is about US policy in general. The fact is that the ferguson situation is a direct result of the greater govt approach and the huge injustices in their system. They are inseperable and inextricably linked.

    And while we may have the same rights in ireland it just doesnt happen, or at least only once in a blue moon and only in extreme circumstances, and thats not because of our small population or racial issues. Why is it then? Because our government upholds human rights, law, order and justice (at least for the most part)

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:41 PM

    It doesn’t matter if the officers life was in danger or not . If he feels someone is about to make a attemp on his life then he has the right to use force to prevent that from happening . It’s call the rules of engagement .

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:42 PM

    The kid was shot 8 times.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:44 PM

    To be honest I don’t really give a shyte what you think about my sincerity – my conscience is clear.

    Yes, here at home in Ireland we only have a fraction of the self-defence/police killings that they have in the US, but that has more to do with their gun culture than anything else. I’m sure their gun culture also has an influence on their foreign policy decisions.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:39 PM

    Tommy – if he ‘feels’??? So now its ok to kill someone based on a feeling? Next youll be arguing that if he ‘feels’ horny he has the right to rape someone. I couldnt care less about what rules or rights your BS ‘we are above the law’ military or police force claims to bestow on you. Stick your rules of engagement where the sun dont shine and go back to playing your video games you half brain pawn

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:11 PM

    Jon what do you think a police officer should do if a speeding car was driving towards him . Do you think he should shoot the driver or do you think he should wait to see if the driver dicides to run him over or turns to avoid him . What you think a police officer should do if he see s someone about to throw something that believes to be a explosive device . Do you think he should take his life or do you think he should wait for something to land at his feet and hope it’s nothing more then a harmless stone . There s a billion scenarios that he could find himself in where he has to make a choice to take a life or not under intense pressure and in a matter of seconds .

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:46 AM

    Holder and Obama. Unreal. They are still looking for angle to get a prosecution under civil rights legislation. And it will fail just as it as with these two so many times before.
    They just can accept the Grand Jury verdict.
    The witness that had originally stated that Brown had his hands in the air changed their story while under oath to they were not there to see anything or that Brown had in fact charged at the Officer added to that the forensics report and the autopsy report and the Jury decided there was no case to answer.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:53 AM

    Mick I watched Obamas address live after the verdict, IMHO he stoked the fires tonight, listen or watch what he said, he actually played the “race card” unbelievable!!!

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:08 AM

    “There are Americans who are deeply disappointed, even angry, it’s an understandable reaction” . Obamas quote tonight, is this not a crazy response? Or am I just losing my mind ?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:19 AM

    I guess its an attempt to show empathy with the black community to try and diffuse the situation, but yes it does seem strange given the actual evidence in the case and it may have the reverse effect of actually galvanising the popular view on the streets that an injustice has been done.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:22 AM

    My thoughts exactly

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:52 AM

    Obama is an intelligent man. He knows how important the black vote is for his party, he wouldn’t have got in if it wasn’t for it. So he’s trying to stay on side here, knowing full well rioting and destroying a town is not an understandable reaction.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:25 AM

    Kevin he was elected to serve all the people not just one section.
    He is reverting to his default mode. He started his political career as a black civil rights activist in Chicago and because he refuses to believe his unpopularity is due to his disastrous policies, he is reverting to “they hate me cause I’s Black” and so seeking comfort with those that would support him no matter what.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 10:01 AM

    I fully agree with you, he’s supposed to be impartial but has shown that he plays up to the black community, like in the Trayvon Martin case. The guys an idiot and has idiotic policies but gets away with it by having celebrity friends and being a smooth talker.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:56 AM

    I’m as anti gun and left leaning as they come but the bottom line here is if the guy didn’t commit a crime and then chose to attack the armed policeman who stopped him he’d be alive today.

    I have sympathy for his family and loved ones but he robbed a shop then punched the cop and went for his gun, what did he expect would happen?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:06 AM

    No evidence he attacked a police officer. No injuries to the police officer and the no witness back ups the police officer story.

    But hey the black kid is dead so we can’t ask him.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:23 AM

    David. There were 60+ witnesses at the Grand Jury. Every single one of those witnesses that said that Brown was Running away, Kneeling Down, Had his hands in the air, each and everyone was forced to admit that they had lied in their original statements to Police. And all the evidence from forensics to eye witness statement and 3 separate autopsy reports that all coincided with the Officers statement (which never changed throughout) concluded that the Officer was acting in self defence.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:06 PM

    David, you’re just making things up as you go along. Try bringing yourself up to speed with the details of the court case.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:54 AM

    Because of their love for guns in America this threat of violence will be always be there when something goes wrong

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:01 AM

    I didn’t realise that burning cars and looting shops was all to do with loving guns/

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    Nov 25th 2014, 9:14 AM

    Don’t assume anything, you were not there.

    The facts are:

    The police officer was in a hostile area and was attacked, and he had bruises to show for it,

    He never pulled his weapon before this.

    Yes, he shot 12 rounds, not all of them hit. He feared for his life.

    It is sad that this young man was killed, but why did he attack a armed police officer?

    Spreading facts that do not exist are to blame for the violence.

    Don’t assume anything, you were not there.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:42 AM

    This has been becoming a regular thing (trigger-happy cops) in America over the past 2 years.
    R.I.P. to the boy.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:18 AM

    I’m going to assume from your comment that you haven’t read any details from the case. The police officer had genuine reasons to fear for his life.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:26 PM

    Not sure if you mean me, Jason. But I suggest you go away and do your own bit of research pertaining to my comment. I have 6 names/instances off the top of my head, where people were gunned down in public, 5 of whom weren’t armed. They’re all on cctv too.

    ‘Fearing for my safety’ has got all of them off.

    2 caucasians, 1 hespanic and 3 African Americans.

    There are another 4/5, not fatal, since 2012.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 10:31 AM

    No matter what the verdict of the jury these idiots were going to go rioting and looting anyway. The case is only an excuse

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:39 AM

    Hopefully they have the cop on not to wreck their own neighbourhoods. Look at the LA riots you don’t need a repeat of that.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:49 AM

    Did you read the article Glen?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:51 AM

    I did
    Do you not understand my comment. Where you too young to remember the LA riots?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:55 AM

    Did you read the part about them breaking into a mobile phone shop and wrecking, or the part about burning police cars?? You’re mundane comments are becoming even more mundane which I didn’t think was possible but alas I was wrong

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:59 AM

    You missed a simple point that I was making.
    I will try and be clearer just for you
    This is small in comparison to LA and I hope they have the cop on not to go that far.
    Is that more clearer for you Brandon I can’t dumb it down anymore so try your best lad.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:04 AM

    One shop and some police cars hasn’t a patch on the la riots

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:05 AM

    David
    That’s somewhat my point.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:18 AM

    Auto zone shop burned to the ground, beauty store as well, police cars on fire, McDonald’s & taco time looted, liquor store looted. It’s so much more than a mobile phone store now.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:44 AM

    Instead of relying on the journal to base your whole life around Glen, try reading some other articles or maybe switching on the TV. If you did, you would have discovered that major rioting began immediately after the verdict. There are fires burning all over St. Louis and the fire services can’t get to them because rioters are firing shots at them. Now, rather than trying to be a boring smart ass all the time, log out of the journal for a little while and broaden your spectrum of information gathering.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:08 AM

    I’m sorry Brandon can you repeat that
    I was catching up with world news on the laptop while putting a news paper in the my desk drawer beside the latest book in reading to be read on my break while all the time I should of been listening too you. I’m just so rude !! Anyway you were saying.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:14 AM

    I’ll try to repeat it for you right after I decipher your latest comment Glen although it could take me a while.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:27 AM

    Well then Brandon I know what to get you for Xmas
    Comments for dummies ..

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:33 AM

    Glen, maybe you should do some work instead?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 12:34 PM

    I think a book on basic English and grammar for yourself might just be a better purchase Glen. Keep on trying though kid, that comment of the week is just around the corner for you

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    Nov 25th 2014, 10:48 AM

    Simple solution. Lock down the affected areas. Let them burn their own areas to the ground. When in the morning they come crying about having nothing tell them “you destroyed it, you fix it”.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:06 AM

    Because that’s fair on all the law abiding citizens that own business’s and have nothing to do with it? The people that are looting and rioting aren’t the ones that have anything to lose.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:31 AM

    Kevin. It was those self same looters that pissed and moaned about having to travel several miles to do their shopping after they burnt the place down last time. Take the cost of repairs and rebuilding from their welfare. “You broke it you bought it”.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 12:25 PM

    Mick Jordan .. what if it is Government sponsored provocateurs that are responsible for all the burning?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 12:51 PM

    Frank. Do you think the locals would let strangers in to burn and loot their own town when they are doing it?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 1:09 PM

    Mick Jordan Provocateuring is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

    It goes back to Northern Ireland.

    I believe there was some evidence of it at the recent Irish Water protests.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 4:03 PM

    Proof Frank. Hard proof if you please, not supposition or your usual gif’s. If you are going to make statements like that then back them up with actual evidence.

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    Nov 26th 2014, 4:47 AM

    As I thought Frank. No proof forthcoming. As always when challenged to provide proof/evidence/hard fact, you can’t.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:15 AM

    While I have to say the kid brought it on himself, the fact of the matter is the police used excessive force. I’m glad I don’t live in a country where this is deemed normal police behaviour.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:15 AM

    You’re assaulted by a youth who attempts to grab your firearm to use it against you. I don’t think any armed police force around the world would have reacted any different.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:34 AM

    Which is a good reason for him not having a firearm, so thank god for our lot

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    Nov 25th 2014, 10:57 AM

    Read the article Jason. At the moment of killing him, the officers life was not in danger. Shoot the guy in the legs, incapacitate him.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:03 AM

    Except that didn’t happen. You are believing the police office when if you read the court documents his testimony makes no sense and changed in numerous ways.

    He executed a black teenager in the street for doing nothing at all.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:03 PM

    David, if you genuinely think that’s what happened, despite all the eyewitness testimony and physical evidence to the contrary, you’re a lost cause.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 2:38 PM

    TR909 Said “Shoot the guy in the legs, incapacitate him” he majority of people don’t understand real violence and I think that’s a good thing it means most of us have never experienced it. In a shooting situation you aim for the centre body mass for a couple of reasons: first: arms and legs are small fast moving targets They are hard to hit, hand guns are not accurate Second when you miss those bullets have to go somewhere, usually into bystanders, Thirdly: In spite of what you see on TV people don’t get knocked back when shot, in fact most people (unless the shot hits a vital organ) don’t even realise they have been shot till afterwards. So most training is to shoot centre body and keep shooting till your targets down. Also remember this cop had never drawn his weapon before and no amount of target training will prepare you for your first firing in anger. My thoughts are with the Brown family who have lost a son but they are also with the cop who has taken a life and will have to live with that, and thats not an easy thing.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 7:36 AM

    Was he in a direct provision centre?

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:33 AM

    America’s love affair with firearms never fails to deliver an endless supply of corpses. Right or wrong, an unarmed man dies, more will die because of it. It just rolls from one gross atrocity to another, everyone justifying their killing. America simply applies the same 16th century warped moral logic to the rest of the world with the same results, over and over again. With all this violent reaction across America it will surely take just one muppet in uniform to spark an even greater conflict.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 11:02 AM

    A prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich in the US. 95% of grand jurys indict. The prosecutor has no interest n inditing and bringing it to trial.

    It’s perfectly okay for the police to shoot black people in the US. They do it regularly and the chances of getting in serious trouble are very low.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 12:21 PM

    Ultimately I feel the grand jury made the right call. There isn’t enough evidence to support a prosecution. The African American community have many many legitimate grievances but I don’t think this case is one of them.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 8:22 AM

    Now everybody knows about Missouri Goddamm!.

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    Nov 25th 2014, 6:11 PM

    They need to get rid of Obama. He does nothing to help plus him and his wife are hardcore honky haters. There is evidence all over the place. Especially his wife!

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