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Niall Carson

Enda Kenny says people should keep paying their water charges

The Taoiseach said it would be a “seriously costly and seriously historic mistake” to get rid of the charges.

Updated 1.30pm 

TAOISEACH ENDA KENNY has said people should continue to pay their water bills, despite indications that the charges will be up for discussion as politicians work to form a government.

Speaking on RTÉ’s Prime Time last night, Agriculture and Defence Minister Simon Coveney had said Fine Gael would be “willing to talk about water”.

However, this afternoon Coveney seemed to backtrack, saying that scrapping water charges would be a “big mistake”.

Fianna Fáil has made clear that it will push for charges to be scrapped, management of water supply to be returned to local authorities, and for Irish Water to be downsized into a national oversight body modelled on the National Roads Authority.

Kenny told reporters today that Coveney was correct in that his party would be willing to listen to anyone who might have ideas on forming a stable government.

However, he said he believed it would be “a seriously costly and seriously historic mistake to move away from having a single national utility”. He said:

It’s a fundamental issue for Fine Gael here that you have a single national utility for water and that you have a fair and affordable contribution.

When asked whether people should continue to pay their bills, he said: “Yes, they should pay their bills”.

Last night, Coveney said water is clearly “a big issue for people”.

“We’re talking about trying to reflect what people want in Ireland. Some people agree with water charges, other people don’t,” he said.

“We need to take on board, within reason, what (other parties) are looking for.”

But speaking to RTÉ’s News at One this afternoon, Coveney said “to reverse and to abolish that system now would be a big mistake”.

We believe that a single utility and a fair charging system is the right approach to water in Ireland, that is the way the vast majority of countries in the world do it.

He said that people should continue to pay their water bills and that he will continue to do so.

That view was echoed by Fianna Fáil’s Dara Calleary who, on the same programme, said he would continue to pay water bills. But Calleary added that the vast majority of TDs in the 32nd Dáil now have a mandate to abolish water charges.

Reiterating his party’s stated position during the campaign, the Fianna Fáil TD said “we were very clear during the campaign that we would abolish Irish Water, that we would suspend water charges for five years, we were clear during the campaign also that we would not give refunds”.

‘Radical overhaul needed’

This afternoon, Green Party leader Eamon Ryan TD said that a radical overhaul of Irish water is needed, but it should be retained in a reduced form.

“Conservation, investment, and fairness should be at the heart of our water services,” he said. “Public confidence in Irish Water is very badly damaged, and the outgoing government needs to take responsibility for that.”

He added that “it is clear that the Government’s plan to fund water investment through charges for use will not work”.

We’re proposing the retention and overhaul of Irish Water – reducing the utilities role to overseeing and directing investment, like the National Roads Authority. The new Irish Water would be tasked with managing water infrastructure on a regional basis, based around river catchment areas, in conjunction with local authorities.

“Nobody should have to pay for every day, normal use, but we do need an incentive to conserve water,” added Ryan.

A nominal charge should apply to consistent waste of water, above that generous allowance. Once that conservation mechanism is there – funding for investment can be provided via joint EU/Central exchequer funding, through the EIB and Juncker’s Investment Plan.

- with reporting by Hugh O’Connell and Michelle Hennessy

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    Dec 5th 2015, 8:45 AM

    It’s a day for the high stool I think..

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    I just laid a high stool….now it’s a low stool!

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    Dec 5th 2015, 8:44 AM

    Fluichy ar lá

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    Dec 5th 2015, 9:01 AM

    Journal, what’s with the file photo? Can’t you people point your phone out of the window and take a picture of the actual storm effects?

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    Dec 5th 2015, 9:08 AM

    The Jpurnal is based I Dublin and the worst of the storm is happening initially in the west of the country and they don’t have a camera with a two hundred mile zoom lens.

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    Dec 5th 2015, 9:12 AM

    @DMcE talk about looking for something to complain about! Can you not picture a storm in your head or look out your own window?

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    Dec 5th 2015, 8:47 AM

    Dam the cliffs are closed.

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    Drove on m50 slow down people

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    Dec 5th 2015, 9:47 AM

    Today the council are out putting boiling tar into holes filled with water and throwing gravel on top.. its not going to stay .. why is this always done in the rain ???

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    Dec 5th 2015, 10:20 AM

    What idiot council is doing that?

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    Dec 5th 2015, 10:21 AM

    water conservation !

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    Dec 5th 2015, 10:53 AM

    Have to spend the budget before the end of the year. Could do a bit of planning and fill the potholes earlier in the year

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    Dec 5th 2015, 5:47 PM

    Don’t forget to turn the tap off when washing your teeth, its all about water conservation after all?.

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    Dec 5th 2015, 8:56 AM

    Ugghh have to go to work in that. More of a day for the high stool

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    Dec 5th 2015, 10:41 AM

    I don’t mean to poke holes but that headline picture looks alot like Toronto and their street cars in the background?

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    Dec 5th 2015, 8:53 AM

    It’s alright ye all can go back out tuesday we have a meeting in Dublin to see we can we batten down storm austerity which has been raging for years

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    Dec 5th 2015, 9:05 AM

    You’re some saucepan Derek… I really hope you get soaked today

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    Dec 5th 2015, 9:13 AM

    And Tuesday

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    Dec 5th 2015, 3:49 PM

    Cathal I wonder who pi$$ed on Derek’s cornflakes???

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    Dec 5th 2015, 9:14 AM

    Cathal rather be a saucepan than a colander and have all drained out of me without trying to put a stop to it

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    Empty vessels make most noise

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    And the more noise the better

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    Did last sat not today though don’t like the same medicine over and over again like to try and do something about it

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    Some one spitting their dodie out …awhhhhhh. Did ya git out of your homeless sleeping bag on the wrong side this morning.. jockd ?? ,yellow to the front , brown to the back. Derek

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    A tarzans mate whether it rains or not Jane I’ll be there

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    We’re not in Kanas anymore Toto !

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    Dec 5th 2015, 4:36 PM

    I was coming back home last night (well…. early morning… 3.00 am) with my Vespa…. I can tell I challenged several laws of physics driving my scooter around…. but was fun!

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    Dec 5th 2015, 6:35 PM

    Went for a run then shopping, dinner and pints, you’re all wimps

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    Dec 5th 2015, 5:42 PM

    Went t bring me dogs for walk ths mornin.the look on their faces.”No fkn way u gettn us out in that lad, p**ss off “

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    You can fly to Donegal?!

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    Dec 5th 2015, 4:47 PM

    Meanwhile the government argues for an exemption from carbon emissions targets at the Paris conference. Didn’t someone tell these storms that we’re exempt? #denial

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    Dec 6th 2015, 9:20 AM

    I was in Dublin yesterday & while it was raining up to 12 noon it cleared up good enough with some squally outbursts but nothing compared to what other counties got.. There was still a lot of dry intervals.. When i got back to cork last night it was bucketing again..

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    Dec 5th 2015, 10:47 PM

    I drove from Dublin to athlone earlier today,to say it was an unpleasant experience is an understatement

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    Dec 5th 2015, 7:03 PM

    Storm Desmond! Almost makes the bad weather sound kinda’ alright and that it’s even a bit of craic. Can’t wait to hear the future news about ‘Storm Jack Cruise’ and its ….Gaels of Laughter, Ha! .
    Weather you wouldn’t even leave a ladder out in, I think?

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