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Govt receives formal recommendation to lower voting age to 16

The Constitutional Convention has officially submitted its recommendation that a referendum be held on lowering the voting age.

THE GOVERNMENT has received a formal recommendation to lower the voting age to 16.

The recommendation from the Constitutional Convention is the first to have been made by the body since it began its official meetings in January.

The 100-member body – two-thirds of which is made up of ordinary members of the public – decided in January to recommend that the voting age be reduced to 16.

The terms of reference for the convention had asked it to consider whether the current age (18) should be lowered to 17.

It also asked the convention to consider whether the term of the Presidency should be shortened to five years, and be aligned with local and European elections – recommendations which were rejected by the convention.

The rules laid down by the Oireachtas in setting up the convention mean the government must respond to the recommendation within four months.

If the government approves the recommendation, and agrees to arrange a referendum to lower the voting age, it must also outline a timetable by which it intends to do so.

“This is a landmark day for the work of the Constitutional Convention,” said its chairman Tom Arnold.

“The establishment of the Constitutional Convention represented an exciting and innovative approach to constitutional reform in this country. Today, we see the first part of the process in action and this report reflects the Convention vote by a slender majority to recommend that the voting age be lowered to 16.”

Arnold said the convention was a “fresh approach” that allowed ordinary people to shape the running of the country.

The convention held a second set of hearings last month on whether to amend the constitutional reference to the role of women, and next month will consider amending the current document so as to allow full civil marriage for same-sex couples.

Read: Over 1,000 submissions to convention on same-sex marriage

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    Mute Pius Flynn
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:06 PM

    I hope she never sees the light of day again

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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:09 PM

    The sickening thing is , she will .

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    Mute alwaysrightokay
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 9:14 PM

    Will she even do time I wonder

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    Jan 22nd 2016, 9:19 PM

    I doubt it. It’ll be a Suspended sentence

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    Mute Johnneary
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 10:42 PM

    This is Ireland.
    She’ll most likely, get a fully furnished new house to add to her previous portfolio of 3.
    A new car.
    A raise in her benefits.
    New clothes.
    And hundreds of thousands of Euro in medical and counselling expenses.

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    Mute Nicola Long
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:08 PM

    This woman does not deserve to call herself a mother. She’s nothing but a disgusting human. Fair play to those kids for going through with this case and sorry to hear this was allowed to carry on for so long.

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    Mute Deborah Behan
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:50 PM

    How did she get bail? Vile human being, I hope she gets a proper sentence and the kids get the love and help they need.

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    Mute Greg O'Riordan
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:30 PM

    How could this continue over time without something being done? Neighbours aware, school aware of issues. What did social services do here? This is madness.

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    Mute John Hazelnut
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 10:30 PM

    Yes, Greg, I wonder what Social Services did here, and what the ISPCC did here, too.

    It seems to just have been allowed to continue for 5 years.

    It’s astounding, with Child Abuse supposedly being taken so seriously.

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    Mute Cupid Stunt
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:19 PM

    I can’t understand what makes someone do that to kids, any kids. I just hope that they get the love and attention that they deserve now as young adults.

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    Mute Alan O'connor
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:11 PM

    Her defense team? Who paid for that I wonder?

    Where is/are the father(s)?

    How is this tolerated in the 21st century?

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    Mute Ciaran Coye
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:33 PM

    She may not even know who the fathers are.

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    Mute Serena O'Hora
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:06 PM

    Disgusting! Poor children, God love them

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    Mute Tweeter
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:14 PM

    Why didn’t the neighbours report her?

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    Mute Sinead Laird
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:12 PM

    What a twisted bitch

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    Mute Al Ca
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:35 PM

    I heard some of the mothers defence evidence reported on the radio today in relation to the two boys having their hair pulled out by her…….

    “She said the boys were exaggerating, yes, she said, she had to hold them forcibly in a headlock and it took some power to force the neck of the Fairy washing liquid bottle past their clenched teeth as they struggled and won’t allow her to pour the washing up liquid in their mouths because they said a rude word but she didn’t pull out clumps of hair”

    That was her defence on that charge alone.
    She didn’t see anything wrong with it, that was her defence………What an evil woman.

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    Mute Aoife McCarrick
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:28 PM

    She is evil, I hope that she never gets out.

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    Mute Sinead
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 9:56 PM

    It wasn’t just her that failed the children, why were they left in her care for so long, why did it take so long to bring her to court?

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    Mute anthony campion
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 11:13 PM

    Why was there a delay of 5 years from when social services got involved until the kids were taken from this vile evil woman

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    Jan 22nd 2016, 11:03 PM

    The poor kids. I hope they can go on to lead normal happy lives.

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    Jan 22nd 2016, 10:59 PM

    This evil piece of sc#m should be fed on bread and water for the rest of her miserable life

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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:14 PM

    I hope she gets the help she needs, and for the children’s sake that she is able to establish a normal relationship with them in time.

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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:23 PM

    Joe, I would say that the relationship is way beyond repair.

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    Mute Colin Moran
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:26 PM

    ‘The help she needs’?!! Are you for real Joe?
    Why is every perpetrator of horrific crimes given the tag of ‘victim’? Some people are just evil, nasty, deplorable animals and should be disposed of.

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    Mute Lily
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:35 PM

    After witnessing first hand similar events above I can say from my own experience that forgiveness comes in time. May be a few years, may take decades, the child will still want to be loved / accepted by the parent. They may have a chance at a relationship of some sort depending on the child or no relationship at all depending on the child. The child will also feel a degree of guilt and responsibility even though the child is 100% innocent the guilt is still there.

    The child’s want/need to be loved and wanted is huge if they can get that of the fosters career they may never look for their mothers love, but if they are shipped from home to home and only used by the foster career for money (some foster careers not all) then I feel the child future will be hard.

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    Mute William Boyd
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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:41 PM

    Exactly Colin some people are beyond help, evil will always be evil unfortunately the human race churns out the odd one every now and then, and unfortunately that evil can spawn innocent children.

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    Jan 22nd 2016, 11:14 PM

    Well said

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    Jan 22nd 2016, 8:06 PM

    Poor kids

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