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In full: Enda Kenny’s State apology to the Magdalene women

“I, as Taoiseach, on behalf of the State, the government and our citizens deeply regret and apologise unreservedly to all those women for the hurt that was done to them…”

THE FOLLOWING is the full text of the address to Dáil Éireann made by Enda Kenny this evening.

A full audio clip of the Taoiseach’s address can be heard here, or at the end of the transcript below.

In his speech, Kenny said the government and the citizens of Ireland “deeply regret and apologise unreservedly to all those women for the hurt that was done to them”.

I begin today’s debate by thanking Dr Martin McAleese and his team for their excellent work on this report.

I thank equally all the women who met with them to assist in its compilation. I also thank the religious orders who cooperated fully with Dr. McAleese.

Together they have helped provide Ireland with a document of truth.

The Magdalene laundries have cast a long shadow over Irish life over our sense of who we are.

It’s just two weeks since we received this report: the first-ever detailed Report into the State’s involvement in the Magdalene Laundries.

It shines a bright and necessary light on a dark chapter of Ireland’s history.

On coming to office the Government was determined to investigate the facts of the State’s involvement.

The government was adamant that these ageing and elderly women would get the compassion and the recognition for which they have fought for so long deserved so deeply and had, until now, been so abjectly denied.

The reality is that for 90 years Ireland subjected these women and their experience to a profound and studied indifference.

I was determined because of this that this Government – this Dáil – would take the necessary time not just to commission the Report but to actually study it and having done so to reflect on its findings.

I believe that was the best way to formulate a plan and strategy that would help us make amends for the State’s role in the hurt of these extraordinary women.

I’m glad that so many of the women themselves agreed with that approach.

And I’m glad that this time of reflection gave me the chance to do the most important thing of all: to meet personally with the Magdalene Women. To sit down with them, face to face, to listen to their stories.

It was a humbling and inspiring experience.

Today, as their Taoiseach, I am privileged to welcome some of these women to this House many of whom have travelled long distances to be here.

I warmly welcome you every one of you to your national parliament, to Dail Eireann.

What we discuss today is your story. What we address today is how you took this country’s terrible ‘secret’ and made it your own. Burying it carrying it in your hearts here at home, or with you to England and to Canada America and Australia on behalf of Ireland and the Irish people.

But from this moment on you need carry it no more. Because today we take it back. Today we acknowledge the role of the State in your ordeal.

We now know that the State itself was directly involved in over a quarter of all admissions to the Magdalene Laundries.

Be it through the social services reformatories psychiatric institutions county homes the prison and probation service and industrial schools.

In fact we have decided to include all the Magdalene women in our response regardless of how they were admitted.

Dr McAleese set out to investigate five areas in particular;

1: The routes by which the women entered the laundries
2: Regulations of the workplace and State inspections
3: State funding of and financial assistance to the laundries
4: The routes by which the girls and women left the laundries
5: Death registrations, burials and exhumations

In all five areas there was found to be direct State involvement.

As I read this Report and as I listened to these women, it struck me that for generations Ireland had created a particular portrait of itself as a good living God-fearing nation.

Through this and other reports we know this flattering self-portrait to be fictitious.

It would be easy to explain away all that happened – all we did in those great moral and social salves of ‘the culture back then’ = the ‘order of the day’, ‘the terrible times that were in it’.

Yes, by any standards it was a cruel, pitiless Ireland distinctly lacking in a quality of mercy. That much is clear, both from the ages of the Report, and from the stories of the women I met.

As I sat with these women as they told their stories it was clear that while every woman’s story was different each of them shared a particular experience of a particular Ireland judgemental intolerant petty and prim.

In the laundries themselves some women spent weeks others months more of them years. But the thread that ran through their many stories was a palpable sense of suffocation not just physical in that they were incarcerated but psychological .spiritual social. Their stories were enriched by an astonishing vividness of recall of situation and circumstance.

Here are some of the things I read in the report and they said directly to me:

“The work was so hard, the regime was cruel.”
“I felt all alone, nobody wanted me.”
“They sent me because they thought I was going to a good school.”
“I seen these older people beside me, I used cry myself to sleep.”
“I was bold, I wasn’t going to school.”
“I was locked up I thought I would never get out.”
“We had to sew at night even when we were sick.”
“I heard a radio sometimes in the distance.”
“We were not allowed to talk to each other.”
“Your letters were checked.”
“I was so short I needed a stool to put washing in.”
“The noise was desperate.”
“I thought I would go mad from the silence.”
“The heat was unbelievable.”
“I broke a cup once and had to wear it hanging around my neck for three days.”
“I felt always tired always wet .always humiliated.”
“My father came for me after three months but I was too ashamed to go home.”
“I never saw my Mam again she died while I was in there.”

The Magdalene Women might have been told that they were washing away a wrong or a sin but we know now and to our shame they were only ever scrubbing away our nation’s shadow.

Today, just as the State accepts its direct involvement in the Magdalene Laundries society too has its responsibility.

I believe I speak for millions of Irish people all over the world when I say we put away these women because .for too many years we put away our conscience.

We swapped our personal scruples for a solid public apparatus that kept us in tune and in step with a sense of what was ‘proper behaviour’ or the ‘appropriate view’ according to a sort of moral code that was fostered at the time particularly in the 1930s, 40s and 50s.

We lived with the damaging idea that what was desirable and acceptable in the eyes of the Church and the State was the same and interchangeable.

Is it this mindset then this moral subservience that gave us the social mores the required and exclusive ‘values’ of the time that welcomed the compliant, obedient and lucky ‘us’ and banished the more problematic, spirited or unlucky ‘them’?

And to our nation’s shame it must be said that if these women had managed to scale the high walls of the laundries they’d have had their work cut out for them to negotiate the height and the depth of the barricades around society’s ‘proper’ heart. For we saw difference as something to be feared and hidden rather than embraced and celebrated.

But were these our ‘values’?

Because we can ask ourselves for a State – least of all a republic.
What is the ‘value’ of the tacit and unchallenged decree that saw society humiliate and degrade these girls and women?

What is the ‘value’ of the ignorance and arrogance that saw us publicly call them ‘Penitents’ for their ‘crime’ of being poor or abused or just plain unlucky enough to be already the inmate of a reformatory, or an industrial school or a psychiatric institution?

We can ask ourselves as the families we were then what was worthy what was good about that great euphemism of ‘putting away’ our daughters our sisters our aunties ?

Those ‘values’ those failures those wrongs characterised Magdalene Ireland.

Today we live in a very different Ireland with a very a different consciousness awareness – an Ireland where we have more compassion empathy insight heart.

We do because at last we are learning those terrible lessons. We do because at last we are giving up our secrets.

We do because in naming and addressing the wrong, as is happening here today, we are trying to make sure we quarantine such abject behaviour in our past and eradicate it from Ireland’s present and Ireland’s future.

In a society guided by the principles of compassion and social justice there never would have been any need for institutions such as the Magdalene Laundries.

The Report shows that the perception that the Magdalene Laundries were reserved for what were offensively and judgementally called “fallen women” is not based upon fact at all but upon prejudice. The women are and always were wholly blameless.

Therefore, I, as Taoiseach, on behalf of the State, the government and our citizens deeply regret and apologise unreservedly to all those women for the hurt that was done to them, and for any stigma they suffered, as a result of the time they spent in a Magdalene Laundry.

I hope that the publication of the McAleese Report and this apology makes some contribution to the healing process.

But in reflecting on this Report I have come to the view that these women deserve more than this formal apology, important though it is. I also want to put in place a process by which we can determine how best to help and support the women in their remaining years.

One of the many things I have learned during my recent meetings with these women is that their circumstances and current needs vary greatly from person to person.

That’s why the Government has today asked the President of the Law Reform Commission, Judge John Quirke, to undertake a three month review and to make recommendations as to the criteria that should be applied in assessing the help that the government can provide in the areas of payments and other supports, including medical cards, psychological and counselling services and other welfare needs.

The terms of reference for Judge Quirke will be published later today and I will also arrange for the representatives of the women to be fully briefed on this process. When Judge Quirke has reported, the government will establish a Fund to assist the women, based on his recommendations.

I am confident that this process will enable us to provide speedy, fair and meaningful help to the women in a compassionate and non adversial way. I am determined that the fund will be primarily used to help the women – as is their stated and strong desire – not for legal or administrative costs.

The McAleese Report also refers to women who recounted similar experiences in other residential laundries, such as the laundry offering services to the public operated in the Training Centre at Stanhope Street, Dublin.

The government has decided that these women should be included in both the apology I have extended today, and in the Fund.

I am also conscious that many of the women I met last week want to see a permanent memorial established to remind us all of this dark part of our history.

I agree that this should be done and intend to engage directly with the representative groups and of as many of the women as possible to agree on the creation of an appropriate memorial to be financed by the Government separately from the funds that are being set aside for the direct assistance for the women.

Let me conclude by again speaking directly to the women whose experiences in Magdalene Laundries have negatively affected their subsequent lives.

As a society, for many years we failed you.

We forgot you or, if we thought of you at all, we did so in untrue and offensive stereotypes.

This is a national shame, for which I again say, I am deeply sorry and offer my full and heartfelt apologies.

At the conclusion of my discussions with one group of the Magdalene Women one of those present sang ‘Whispering Hope’. A line from that song stays in my mind – “when the dark midnight is over, watch for the breaking of day”.

Let me hope that this day and this debate – excuse me – heralds a new dawn for all those who feared that the dark midnight might never end.


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    Mute Dáithí O Raghailaigh
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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:19 AM

    News reports last night were saying people were surprised to get a second ballad paper , did not know anything about the blasphemy law referendum, Well if people are that badly informed when casting a vote, not surprised Higgins has a huge lead.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:30 AM

    @Dáithí O Raghailaigh: we should have a minimum IQ requirement to vote!!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:40 AM

    @Dáithí O Raghailaigh: the blasphemy referendum was just a ball of smoke…the coverage / information about it was practically non existent and all-in-all whether it’s changed doesn’t make one iota of difference. As regards the presidental election the field of runners was of such a low calibre that it’s no surprise the incumbent keeps the reigns/ what would be of concern to fg&ff is that this was the lowest EVER turnout for a Presidential election that cost €15million. Also the fact that Peter Casey in spite of Leo & co saying NOT to vote for him looks like attaining 20%+ of the votes….1 in 5 of the people who actually did bother to vote.Not a good election for the ‘ establishment’ no matter what Leo’s spin machine says

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:49 AM

    @Frank Dubogovik:
    Sorry for pointing out the obvious flaw in your argument Frank, but ‘the establishment’ as you put it just won a landslide victory!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:58 AM

    @Dáithí O Raghailaigh: wasn’t an argument though, he was just highlighting some of the issues with this election.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:01 AM

    @Frank Dubogovik: Non existent Frank? I saw ads about it on TV and heard the topic being debated on radio and TV news. Also received information to my house. Where have you had your head for the last few weeks?!

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    Mute Nigel Mcatamney
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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:30 AM

    @Reg: Frank doesn’t watch TV or read newspapers or possess a radio. He gets all his hear say from the journal…..

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:41 AM

    @Frank Dubogovik: looks like Peter Casey rallied 4% of the people to his cause!!! That probably is the percentage of morons in Ireland.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:53 AM

    @Reg: , if there was a minimum IQ requirement to vote this current shower wouldn’t be allowed sweep the car park in Dail Eirann.
    Gift horse and all that !!!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:14 AM

    @Paddington C.:
    Where do you get your 4% figure?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:33 AM

    @Dáithí O Raghailaigh: SF distraction politics

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:35 AM

    @mattoid: Paddington is just a dumb bear.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:04 AM

    @Reg: that would have only increased Higgins win lol

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:29 AM

    @Reg: Driving, voting and reproducing all things that the window lickers can do that affect everyone

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    Mute Matthew O'Kane
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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:02 PM

    @Dáithí O Raghailaigh: higgins is no saint but casey supports his bank balance and isnt is a rebel for anything, hes just using hate as trump did to get ahead he’ll rob your taxes same as the establishment, casey lost put that trump wanna be back in his box if you are with casey you arent with humanity, maybe he can relaunch renua lol I didnt vote for casey but I did vote against him dont let anti democratic forces like casey or leo mislead you unless you are a divisive white/corporate supremacist then both should get your vote

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:56 PM

    @Rory: The squeezed middle think there is something to gain by attacking welfare recipients.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:38 AM

    Well done to Michael D.

    But Casey’s surge in popularity has to resonate with the Irish political class.

    We don’t want to be spoon fed waffle and empty promises, we want people to come out and give an honest account of reality, and then we can judge the credibility and application the politician is putting forward. Not lies.

    Don’t see how Casey’s ideas about Travelers was going to help, but he said it like it was for many people. Leo and co need to come out next General Election and give it to the public straight about the Health service, homelessness, and the myriad of other problems that can at minimum can be alleviated to a degree with the right attitude.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:48 AM

    @Hellenize Dublin: Not a chance of that happening unfortunately. Leo, Murphy and Harris are constantly on the airwaves stating that things are improving in their respective departments when clearly things are getting worse. To report such nonsense and keep a straight face is actually quite frightening when you think about it. They have no morals or integrity and to force feed such lies and nonsense down peoples necks is very shocking indeed.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:56 AM

    @Hellenize Dublin: That’s it. Next election we’ll have candidates mumbling incoherently like Casey. They’ll get in after a few comments about a minority in society, and like Casey will support Irexit, or some other suicidal notion. Hopefully people will see through the Trump playbook.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:03 AM

    @TheHeathen: it’ll be a sad day. Are people really that stupid to think people enter politics to help the ordinary joe soap.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:08 AM

    @Hellenize Dublin: a lot of people are missing huge issues with Casey’s surge. these are not right wing lunatics to counter the leftist lunatics. it is fairer centrist politics to counter the right leaning conservatism of ff/ff/lab. people don’t see fairness in systems that can be abused by anyone, individual or group, and they need people to agree with them. Higgins won by votes from sleepwalking over 50s and blinkered millennials (my own kids voted him “because he’s squiggledey” or some vacous reason) not being engaged in politics, and that will change once we get a political version of Casey.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:27 AM

    @Gulliver Foyle: ‘right leaning lab’, you might need to read their policies prior to making such comments rather than just following the PBP rhetoric, the other 2 are right of centre alright.

    Oh, and I’m a professional in his 30s who voted Higgins, so not sure how I match your stereotype of a Higgins voter

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:28 AM

    @Hellenize Dublin: The renua party got nowhere in elections at 0%. but i would say a far right party based on hatred to minorities would do well going on casey’s success.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:01 AM

    @Sean Conway: it’s not about hatred of minorities it’s about the truth ffs, wake up

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:19 AM

    @Gulliver Foyle: Well glad to see you got that wrong. Casey voted for mainly by over 60s.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:37 AM

    @Gulliver Foyle: migeldy higeldy

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:47 AM

    @Joanne Martin: Do you think that you would benefit if there was no welfare at all? it goes straight back in to the economy anyway. it wouldn’t go to the sqeezed middle. the wealthy just want to divide and rule

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:09 AM

    @Hellenize Dublin: So I guess you would have no issue with folks in the UK saying we are all filthy washed up drunk Paddy’s?, its ok because its the truth right?….you type of people have no idea the dangers of people who single out the weak for their own gain…..I know someone in Germany who done similar but I can’t think of his name for some reason can you?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:11 AM

    @Hellenize Dublin: So I guess you would have no issue with folks in the UK saying we are all filthy washed up drunk Paddy’s?, its ok because its the truth right?….you type of people have no idea the dangers of people who single out the weak for their own gain…..I know someone in Germany who done similar but I can’t think of his name for some reason can you?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:09 PM

    @Peter Hughes: ignore the part where I said I don’t see how Casey’s comments would help, that’s fine

    Stop putting words and deriving meanings in people’s statements that are not there

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:17 PM

    @TheHeathen: and you just follow the hype and media like the sheep you are Higgins came across as pompous arrogant and self entitled and if the campaign went on longer more people would have seen that

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:50 PM

    @Peter Hughes: why don’t travellers have to work for a living?
    People on the dole long term are sent through Tus or Seetec. Why are travellers exempt?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 1:07 PM

    @ Martin O Donnell: More irony, it’s everywhere today. The hype was Casey. The sheep were Casey’s followers. One comment about a minority, a political bogeyman, and away you went. ‘A man of the people’, ‘saying it like it is’. Such rubbish, such hype, such sheep. A member of the elite, a loon that supports leaving the EU, a mumbling populist, a man looking to get his deposit back. Since he wanted to bring up an inconsequential issue to the role, why didn’t he bring up a bigger issue in society? Health, housing, debt? Because that would shed some light in his golfing buddies and because he read the Trump playbook on how to fool sheeple, and he needed his deposit back. Probably has a tax bill in the US coming up.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 1:11 PM

    @Peter Hughes: what did he say that was so bad?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 1:17 PM

    @TheHeathen: are you for real Higgins acted arrogantly by not doing all the debates so u are quite happy to have someone who gets paid a huge salary but yet uses the 300k fund for his personal use u my friend are one of the 55 percent so a sheep by definition follow him just like ur masters told you

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    Oct 27th 2018, 1:23 PM

    @Hellenize Dublin: Hatefacts. The truth is hateful to those who hate the truth.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 3:55 PM

    @Hellenize Dublin: Not sure why folks are even talking about Casey, he got approx 20 percent, its nowhere taxi for him and his merry band of racist followers period.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 3:58 PM

    @Martin O Donnell: I hope you have evidence that he uses the 300k for personal use. No body has ever accused him of that. I hope he sues you for slander.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 4:24 PM

    @Hellenize Dublin: The second stupidest comment on the Journal. Making a comparison between singling out a group to the Nazi’s party..

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    Oct 27th 2018, 7:44 PM

    @Peter Hughes: racist how?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:39 AM

    Miggledy was always gonna be a sure thing. But we’ll done to Peter Casey. For a few minutes a politician told the truth. THATS what the people want. Honesty.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:44 AM

    @Kath Noonan: Peter Casey is not a politician.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:16 PM

    @Kath Noonan: Peter Casey may as well have said “If I get elected I’ll give everyone in Ireland €10,000″ unreal that there is less than 5% of the population who fall for such simplistic sound-bites, we have a pretty good educational system by OECD standards, some people just aren’t suited to it though it seems.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 1:08 PM

    @PaulineSmith: we’re not all lick arses ……looking for something we’ll never get off a politician

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    Oct 27th 2018, 1:50 PM

    @Mr Mystery: Yeah, licking windows more like.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 2:15 PM

    @Kath Noonan: ” for a few minutes”.. and that made him a ” hero” with some, and suitable Presidential material??? Oh, dear the mind boggles..

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    Oct 27th 2018, 4:41 PM

    @PaulineSmith: what’s worse is that 55 percent bought into the spin about Higgins unreal he never answered about dipping into the 300k for personal use even though he on a huge salary crazy that people go with the flow rather than look deeper into things

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:29 AM

    He’ll need to bring a load of Pavees to the Aras to prove he likes them so much

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:43 AM

    @The Bull McCabe: Paveee point Administrative expenses a few years back were 1,631,698 thats tax payers money, they are very comfortable without the Aras

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:46 AM

    @Dáithí O Raghailaigh: a great maybe there new wedding venue with all that space and all..

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:11 PM

    @The Bull McCabe: Taxpayers money given to people who won’t pay tax on their earnings. One for the irony fans.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:01 AM

    It is clear evidence that it is time for a Rural Political Party based on Law and Order . FFG /Sinn Fein play lip service to dealing with Rural Crime and the concerns of Rural People .

    A Rural Political Party is the only solution to this . The other Political parties have had more than enough time to get their finger out but they have done nada and are going to do nada .

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:12 AM

    @Pl O’neill: Identity Ireland and Renua suggest not

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:35 AM

    @Pl O’neill: Yes, have your rural Party but recognise most of the money you get is from City PAYE workers paying your subsidies (without which you wouldn’t add survive).

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:35 PM

    @Simon Peters: city PAYE made up of people from the country! PS I’m a Dub living in the country..

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:36 AM

    No doubt the FF, FG and labour shower will spin this as an overwhelming endorsement of themselves but the fact is, if the turnout was around 50%, and higgins got say 58% of that, it means less than 30% of the electorate bothered to come out to vote for higgins, hardly as popular as they’d like to fool you into thinking.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:39 AM

    @Adrian: of my seven cats, not one voted for Higgins,. He is clearly nowhere near as popular as people make out.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:45 AM

    @Adrian: reminds me of some time last year when pascal was on the radio trying to sell the results of a survey on the what public sector workers though of politicians, 56% bothered to reply, and about half said they trusted and valued the work of the politicians. So it was around 25% but to pascal, he was spinning the 56% as an overwhelming majority, discounting the crowd that didn’t reply!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:08 AM

    @Adrian: it’s perfectly reasonable not to count the people who didn’t bother to vote. If they want to be counted they know what they have to do.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:53 AM

    @Neal Ireland Hello.: and that also applies to michael d. To emphasize a point, say if only 100k people voted, and 90k of them voted for michael d, does that mean that michael d is overwhelmingly popular, as popular as the establishment want you to believe, no!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:29 AM

    @Adrian: and less than 10% of people voted for Casey. No matter what way you look at it, Michael D is 3 times more popular than the next candidate

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:42 AM

    Miggledy was always gonna be a sure thing. But look at what a moment of truth did for Peter Casey. THATS what the people want. Honesty in the politics.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:41 AM

    @Kath Noonan: Yeah just like hitler he was honest too all the same.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:46 AM

    @Kath Noonan: Thats what people of the same opinion as you want

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    Oct 27th 2018, 3:23 PM

    @Kath Noonan: too l

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:57 AM

    Unbelievable how set in yer ways ye are, afraid of change? And then you all say the president has no say at all, doesn’t matter who it is up there, but vote for this buck who already had his turn he should be relaxing with his feet up in his own house enjoy retirement as anyone else does at 70 but no at 77 greed set in… I want more, and the Irish followers bowed down to him,
    Good luck to ye.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:38 AM

    @Rosemarie F Martin: and yet you didn’t see how arrogant Higgins came across tunnel vision I think

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:25 PM

    @Mr Mystery: Set in our ways? I didn’t vote for Michael D. but I certainly wasn’t going to vote for a candidate whose rhetoric was more suited to 1930′s Europe, it’s Casey supporters who want to drag us back to the Dark Ages, thankfully there’s feck all of them.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 3:26 PM

    @Mr Mystery: if he’s all about greed and milking the system, explain to me why he’s handed back to the state every year for the past seven years (and will presumably continue to hand back), pensions worth around 100 grand a year? Pensions he would be perfectly entitled to claim.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 6:22 PM

    @Dermot Lane: Mr Mystery has disappeared!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 7:22 PM

    @Mr Mystery: You being a grandmother, you probably remember those times?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:25 AM

    Sense looks to have prevailed.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:17 AM

    Great result

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:20 AM

    @Tweety McTweeter: disastrous result for the country 45 percent of the people actually showing some sense unfortunately still a majority are like sheep and believe the media hype and can’t think for themselves

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:23 AM

    @Martin O Donnell: Dry your eyes Martin :)

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:38 AM

    @Tweety McTweeter: The only other possibility, which of course is completely ludicrous, so that other people are right and you’re wrong.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:53 AM

    @Martin O Donnell: @Dáithí O Raghailaigh: so Michael D with 55% of vote, then the bigots of this country voted for Peter C (because he says ‘what we’re all thinking’- heard that from 2 taxi drivers yesterday as well as every Trump supporter I’ve ever met) then the other 25% is split over 4 candidates most likely just their Geographical area of where they came from or those that they have known over the years- so basically your some of the country have sense comment is null and void. The country disagrees with you basically… resoundingly.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:12 AM

    @Tweety McTweeter: I’m pretty sure dublin taxi drivers don’t vote, or do anything with a paper trail.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:29 AM

    @Martin O Donnell: I think you need to read up on how democracy works

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:47 AM

    @Martin O Donnell: the one plus with Miggledy winning is it’s not yet ANOTHER massive pension WE have to pay.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:43 AM

    @Glenn O’hAilpín: not really the spin and the media got Higgins in Casey jumped from 1 percent …If this had being a much longer campaign the majority of people would have seen the spin for what it is Higgins came across as arrogant and entitled just not enough time for everyone to see that

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:29 AM

    @Martin O Donnell: or the people who see that Higgins is the best representative for the country got him in. Peter Casey jumped because he decided to spout shite that he knows people would buy and he would get some of his money back.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:34 PM

    @Martin O Donnell: today I learned that anybody who holds an opinion that’s different from Tweety is a sheep and unable to this k for themselves. Some logic there

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    Oct 27th 2018, 1:21 PM

    @Sam Harms: If Higgins is that good why didn’t he attend all the debates why did he lie about using the 300k for personal use get a grip man he is laughing all the way to the bank knowing that he has enough sheep to believe the spin

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:26 AM

    It’s one small step for Michael D, one giant leap for his bank balance!!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:16 AM

    He knocked them out of the Park.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:42 PM

    If MDH had been fair and announced his running in a timely manner there would have been more time to have better candidates. Once he did he was basically handed the Presidency by FF/FG/labour and the media and it was going to be an uphill battle for anyone without that Political Support. Delighted Casey got so many votes, not because of Travellers but because Leo said not too and hopefully its Trend and Leo is not elected again

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    Oct 27th 2018, 3:33 PM

    @Mr E: the parties or anyone interested had 7 years to prepare

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:35 AM

    Casey has been a poor candidate who transparently used negative tactics throughout his campaign. Yes, there are genuine concerns about elements of the Traveller community, but likewise settled citizens can be violent, criminal, dysfunctional, entitled, drug-addicted, bullying, abusive, irresponsible, offensive, etc. I’ve suffered directly from many members of a settled community in which I’ve lived in Dublin. It’s an issue that runs across all parts of this society.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:29 AM

    It will be interesting are the exit polls accurate saying Casey is 21%. When the votes are counted will it actually be quite a bit higher than that? I am not sure these polls are in any way accurate.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:47 AM

    @Accounting Pro: So you’re saying the people counting the votes can’t count? Think you’re getting mixed up with Casey voters there, the ones who all spent their money at the bookies backing him for a Number 1. Fools and their money!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 1:02 PM

    @Accounting Pro: Pauline, the “fools” as you call them are €1,250 better of if they had €10 e/w at 500/1. I wish I was that fool this morning

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:33 AM

    For the first time in history every pavee in Ireland voted. If there vote was taken off the 56%, what percentage would Michael D get?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:45 AM

    @John O Brien: There’s 40,000 of them? We have bigger issues, like the near million on waiting lists, 200billion debt, schools falling down, corruption, squeezed middle and hard working lower class unable to buy houses, homelessness, useless political class in the pockets of the elites… even the fines coming from Europe on our inaction about climate change should be higher on the agenda than some tiny minority.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:22 AM

    Congratulations Mr Higgins!! You certainly got my vote!!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:29 AM

    Surprised the Liadh and all the shinners done so bad… guess they don’t have the support they they have

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:24 PM

    @Mark Murphy: I guess they don`t have the support they have??
    Best thing you can do is to stick to your American politics along with all your tweets about your heroine killery Clinton.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 1:57 PM

    @Pixie McMullen: they thought they had. For what’s it’s worth I actually gave her my number 1 vote. I thought she was a very good candidate. My point was I was very surprised so didn’t poll higher given I Pressumed they had much more support out there. Anyhow you clearly got upset about my comment so maybe go have a walk in the fresh air and clear your head for a while , you sound stressed.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 12:14 PM

    Mary Lou imploding in RTÉ Radio 1. Stammering, pausing, confused, all over the place

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    Oct 27th 2018, 6:13 PM

    Very clear that Peter Casey, whatever you think of his comments, struck a chord with the rural communities in this country. Wonder will any of the politicians take note?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 6:24 PM

    @John Marshall: not at all!! They have to stomach to listen to backlash from the liberal majority who are unneffected by the issue he raised.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 10:31 AM

    SF getting a flogging in Donegal. Also in Cork. Did their TD’s even canvass? Question to be answered by May Lou McD

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    Oct 27th 2018, 2:11 PM

    SF candidate 3rd place in own constituency. Mary Lou and SF lead a disastrous campaign

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:36 AM

    Any exit poll for the referendum?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:52 AM

    @Leadóg:
    Yes, overwhelmingly carried.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 8:56 AM

    @Leadóg:
    They are saying 70-72% yes

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:02 AM

    @Patrick Nolan: aren’t they great

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    Oct 27th 2018, 3:55 PM

    Wonder how many votes Gemma O’Doherty got.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 7:31 PM

    Multiple puff pieces about travelers on boards today and no comments allowed on all of them ! Pravda would be proud.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 4:37 PM

    Depressing day on one hand for Ireland but bit more optimism around as anti establishment rhetoric starting to ring true now only if we could have a GE and get the sock monster out

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    Oct 27th 2018, 5:31 PM

    Looks like it’ll be full steam ahead with the Gravy Train for another seven years. As a nation we get the leadership we deserve. It’s not like the UK where they’ve no say in who their head of state is.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 2:38 PM

    How is Atheist Ireland a thing?
    It’s like having a club for people who don’t like football!

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    Oct 27th 2018, 3:12 PM

    @Niall Power: The GAA? Sorry, I’ll get my coat.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:27 AM

    How did the blasphemy vote go?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 2:25 PM

    @Paraic:

    people voted to get rid of it

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    Oct 27th 2018, 4:30 PM

    Who is voting for Sean Gallagher? And why?

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    Oct 27th 2018, 2:36 PM

    How slow can they go in counting? This should not take too long as MDH will win on first count easily.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 6:10 PM

    This presidential election has been a shocking waster of the Northern Bank money by Mary Lou

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    Oct 27th 2018, 5:35 PM

    Disaster for SF. Abandoned by their own “supporters”.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 4:58 PM

    Poor Liadh and SF had a disaster. Understandable when she showed that the SF clatter about the average industrial wage is nonsense. She also had a very poor understanding of the constitution. A very limited candidate overall.

    SF supporters were quick to abandon her – but then they always do less than the polls indicate in elections.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 5:01 PM

    Poor Liadh and SF had a disaster – understandable when she showed that the SF clatter about the average industrial wage is nonsense. She also had a very poor understanding of the constitution. A very limited candidate overall.

    SF supporters were quick to abandon her – but then they always do less than the polls indicate in elections.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 9:52 PM

    The People have spoken once more. O well have to except the democratic vote. ….fock it.

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    Oct 27th 2018, 11:27 PM

    Pathetic Moran

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