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'This effectively cripples us': Rank-and-file gardaí on what the short-term overtime ban will actually mean

Services are being pared back until next week – but how will the force be impacted?

ON TUESDAY EVENING, it emerged that an order had been sent to every station in Dublin by the Assistant Commissioner Pat Leahy banning all overtime for the month of December.

Members of An Garda Síochána were shocked, so too were the reporters covering the issue. It had seemed that there would be no overtime in what would be considered one, if not the busiest time of the year for our police force.

However, after much clarification and to-and-fro both by Garda management and the Taoiseach in the Dáil yesterday afternoon, it emerged that overtime in December would be paid as it would come from next year’s Garda budget.

Even so, what this means now is that all Garda overtime between now and Monday coming is cancelled.

In the grand scheme of things, members have accepted it. However, for four days, many Dublin gardaí now feel helpless.

TheJournal.ie contacted a number of members of the force and asked them if they could tell us what the overtime ban would mean to their daily routines.

Mayhem

One said:

“When we heard it down the station first, we actually thought it was a joke. Then it sank in and we were confused. Kind-of looking at each other saying ‘at Christmas?’.

I don’t want to go into specifics of what I wouldn’t be able to do but for the next week I’m clocking in to do paperwork and then I’m out. But there was mayhem here for a few hours anyway and I suspect there’ll be mayhem until Monday.

Another member added:

“Suppose somebody comes into my station and said ‘Right – Joe Bloggs around the corner is doing something with drugs’ – as in maybe he’s getting a kilo sent to his house to be cut on a certain day.

We couldn’t go in on someone’s word – we can’t do that. There’d be surveillance to be done and also asking other members familiar with that area to have a chat. That’s the kind of added work that gets a case over the line and that needs overtime. So to be out of it for over a month would be madness. But the four days is bad enough anyway.

Another garda told us that any planned arrests would not happen, there’d be no supervision in stations and, for some areas of Dublin, it means that there will be no anti-crime patrols in areas which see a lot of anti-social behaviour.

Other members said that until Monday there would no extra crime beats and no detentions for serious crime outside normal duty hours.

The message from one member summed up the feeling within gardaí:

No overtime effectively cripples us.

After criticism from rank-and-file organisation the GRA yesterday morning, the force issued a statement on the issue yesterday afternoon. All overtime would be covered from early next month as the 2018 budget money is to kick in then, it said:

“An Garda Síochána’s budget for 2018 starts on Monday 4 December and from that day overtime will then be available to regional, division and district officers for policing delivery within the overtime budget allocated to them. All officers will be reminded of the clear need for them to stay within allocated budgets.

Policing services will continue, including tackling organised crime (Op Hybrid in the DMR), Operation ‘Thor’ the nationwide anti-burglary initiative, as well as routine road safety initiatives.

Taoiseach Leo Varadkar, in response to a question from Fianna Fail’s Micheál Martin, also confirmed in the Dáil that any funding for overtime in December will be taken out of the 2018 budget as wages are not paid until the new year.

“I would have hoped Garda management would have been aware of that,” he said.

Speaking to RTÉ Radio One’s Morning Ireland yesterday, the President of the Garda Representative Association (GRA) Ciaran O’Neill said that overtime was being used to supplement the force because there were insufficient numbers of gardaí servicing the State.

“Overtime is the cheapest form of policing and it has been used in the past to fill the numbers,” O’Neill said.

With reporting by Christina Finn 

Read: Varadkar tells Dáil that cost of garda overtime will be covered by next year’s budget >

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    Mute Anthony Kielthy
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    Dec 1st 2015, 8:47 AM

    Oh gawd ! I thought she was full of something else !

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    Mute Neal Ireland Hello
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    Dec 1st 2015, 8:51 AM

    No we don’t. That’s what your doctor’s office is for.

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    Mute Stephen
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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:03 AM

    I think we should talk about ……. Jam!, when I was eating jam sangages last week for lunch the jam dripped onto my hand, It was sticky and very annoying . Why not start a debate about that!??
    Gimme a jasus break!!!!

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    Mute Joe Conlon
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    Dec 1st 2015, 11:05 AM

    @Stephen, It’s really depends on the brand of jam that you use and of course the flavour of jam, chivers strawberry jam is notorious for its dripping qualities, some people will think that I’m a jam racist after that!

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    Dec 1st 2015, 11:46 AM

    There’s a song about it..http://youtu.be/oFRbZJXjWIA

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    Mute Kal Ipers
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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:40 AM

    She suddenly feels a need to talk about it AFTER somebody else brought up the topic publically.

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    Mute Donna Moss
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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:11 AM

    why do we need talk about it? it’s a personal medical issue get it sorted and save us having to know about it.

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    Mute Vladimir Vasyectomy
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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:54 AM

    When a woman like Bláthnaid says, “we need to talk about it.” it usually means ‘shut up and listen…or else.’
    I don’t see the need to talk about it, – maybe she means ‘women need to be educated about it…??

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    Mute Eoin Fleming
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    Dec 1st 2015, 8:57 AM

    Kate Winslet said it was” part and parcel” of child birth so if that’s the case, why feel the need to talk about it?

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    Mute Cosmo Kramer
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    Dec 1st 2015, 8:57 AM

    As a taxi driver I can fully vouch for what she’s saying.. It’s actually unbelievable the amount of Women that will leave a stain in the seat when they get out..

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    Mute Rasputin
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    Dec 1st 2015, 2:33 PM

    Ah, that’s different though… And sure any woman would be the same around such a smooth talker….

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    Mute Sean Johnston
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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:54 AM

    Is this a piss take?

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Dec 1st 2015, 10:52 AM

    Definitely talking the piss.

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    Mute Sean Johnston
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    Dec 1st 2015, 11:11 AM

    Indeed. No justice in the world when a poor innocent dog gets his mouth duct taped shut and this bag of piss gets to open hers all too freely.

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    Mute Dermot Collins
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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:21 AM

    The New world intercontence champion

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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:41 AM

    Literally pissin myself here!

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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:55 AM

    Billy Connolly had been talking about incontinence for years
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCysEz4nFDc

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    Mute Chauncey Gardiner
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    Dec 1st 2015, 11:45 AM

    Really enjoyed the interview Blathnáid gave to Moncrieff yesterday. This wasn’t the only topic she talked about, she also talked about going to college for the first time at forty five, the pressures placed on a woman’s appearance in the media and life in general.
    She had keyhole surgery recently to sort out her incontinence problem and is enjoying a better quality of life. Seems like she had a difficult fifteen years with it, and if she chooses to talk about something that affected her personally good for her.

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    Mute Eamon Mac Gowan
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    Dec 1st 2015, 1:40 PM

    @Chauncey Gardiner,
    Yeah but she’s doing a nonsense degree, Women’s Studies.

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    Mute Chauncey Gardiner
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    Dec 1st 2015, 2:07 PM

    Gender Studies actually. Why worry about it, what Blanáid does or discusses has no consequence on your life.

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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:54 AM

    We need to talk about crop dusting

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    Dec 1st 2015, 10:20 AM

    Is that the less successful follow up to ”We need to talk about Kevin” ?

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    Dec 1st 2015, 10:16 AM

    Never tell a pregnant woman a secret so

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    Mute Cal Cryton
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    Dec 1st 2015, 11:15 AM

    Or how about not talking about it. Just put up with it, or treat it, or whatever the doctor recommends. But definitely, definitely, don’t talk about it. That would work better for all concerned.

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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:38 AM

    Echo island surround by water, makes ya think

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    Dec 1st 2015, 11:46 AM

    No we dont

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    Dec 1st 2015, 10:29 AM

    My mates in England were more interested in how on earth to pronounce her name

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    Dec 1st 2015, 1:02 PM

    Flatulence needs a discussion as well and smelly feet could do with a bit of understanding

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    Dec 1st 2015, 10:37 AM

    Ah she’s just talking shit

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    Dec 1st 2015, 9:53 AM

    Sorry, it’s gone outa me head.

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    Dec 1st 2015, 1:27 PM

    Does she file her taxes in her English name, married name, maiden name , Irish maiden name, Irish married name —- what is her name in English ?? If Irish people want English translated into Irish it should work both ways and her name should appear in English also.

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    Dec 1st 2015, 1:06 PM

    Thank god for c sections!

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    Dec 1st 2015, 2:08 PM

    PMSL

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    Dec 1st 2015, 5:39 PM

    Worse if it was peed others while laughing lol.

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    Dec 1st 2015, 5:41 PM

    Flaps

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    Dec 1st 2015, 7:29 PM

    Her name in english is flower coffey

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    Dec 1st 2015, 5:38 PM

    Awful thing but Billy Connolly had a great parody about it…

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