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A SYRIAN MIGRANT set off an explosion at a bar in southern Germany that killed himself and wounded a dozen others late on Sunday night – the third attack to hit Bavaria in a week.
The 27-year-old, who had spent a stint in a psychiatric facility, had intended to target a music festival in the city of Ansbach but was turned away because he did not have a ticket.
Regional interior minister Joachim Herrmann said:
Unfortunately, this is a terrible new attack which will surely increase people’s anxiety.
He added that investigators “have not ruled out” he had an Islamist motive.
Hermann said he was worried “the right to asylum would be undermined” by the events of the past week, which has seen attacks on a train and shopping mall in the southern German state.
Sunday’s explosion happened just outside a bar in Ansbach city centre, not far from where more than 2,000 people had gathered for the concert, at around 8pm Irish time.
Police have blocked off the area and emergency services were at the scene. Bomb experts were also sent to determine the cause of the blast.
Ansbach deputy police chief Roman Fertinger said there were “indications” pieces of metal had been added to the explosive device.
The perpetrator was killed in the explosion, police said in a statement, and a spokeswoman said 12 people were wounded, three of them seriously.
Herrmann said the attacker, who came to Germany two years ago but had his asylum claim rejected after a year, had tried to kill himself twice in the past and had spent time in a psychiatric clinic.
Europe has been on edge for months after a string of deadly attacks claimed by the Islamic State jihadist group, including bombings in Brussels and carnage at Bastille Day celebrations in the southern French city of Nice.
In Bavaria, which has been a gateway for thousands of Syrian refugees, nine died in a shooting rampage in Munich on Friday and several people were wounded in an axe attack on a train near Wuerzburg.
Obsessed with mass murder
Police released more details of Munich attacker David Ali Sonboly on Sunday, saying the 18-year-old was depressed and had spent two months in a psychiatric unit last year.
The teen was obsessed with mass killings and spent a year preparing for the gun attack that killed nine people, most of them foreigners.
At least 35 people were also wounded during Sonboly’s shooting spree, which began at a McDonald’s branch and ended with him turning his 9mm Glock pistol on himself.
Investigators have ruled out any link with the jihadists, though he appears to have planned the assault with chilling precision.
Police have also arrested a 16-year-old Afghan friend in connection with the attack.
Hundreds of people, many of them in tears, gathered outside the Munich shopping centre where the attack took place to pay tribute to the victims on Sunday.
Already steeped in grief and shock, Germans were further rattled by news that a Syrian refugee had killed 45-year-old Polish woman with a machete in the city of Reutlingen.
Police said that incident on Sunday, in which three others were injured, did not bear the hallmarks of a “terrorist attack”.
“When a man and woman have an argument, we assume that we are dealing with a crime of passion,” a local police spokeswoman told DPA.
Three people were also injured in the attack, which ended when the 21-year-old assailant was hit by a BMW.
NTV showed amateur video footage of the suspect running away from the scene before cutting to him lying on the ground, his face bloodied and his hands cuffed by police.
Ireland should definitely not take on any syrian refugees it doesnt matter whether you do a background check or not i wouldnt trust our crowd to check it right anyway – we are only asking for trouble
trojan horse part 2
I assume that doing a background check for somewhere like Syria must be nigh on impossible considering the state of the place. The same goes for the likes of Sudan, Chad, Libya and so on. Effectively any asylum seeker coming in from a large number of these countries can say what they like in the knowledge that they have very little chance of being found out if they have a criminal background.
very true – sadly they are the perfect weapon
i dont know i think the pentagon have a few weapons that might top displaced peoples
And no papers either….
I distinctly remember few guys warning about this and they were accused of scaremongering by immatures..don’t see them around now.
The more I read about these attacks , the more I think trump is on the ball
Trump probably organising them to sway voters
There’s no doubt about that Sean, but the problem has always been how to distinguish between genuine refugees who have a positive contribution to offer from lowlife who’s aim is to inflict harm.
That’s what worked for Hitler, people reducing complex issues to fear and loathing. trump will not do any better than anyone else. Its impossible to control suicidal loners. He will victimize entire groups on racial grounds. More people will die not less. His ideas are primitive and guaranteed to escalate the body count. He will solve nothing.
I thought some refugees had already arrived here, no?
Ha ha
Trump is speaking common sense , he is going to win the WH , crooked Hilary will be investigated and locked up
Timmay,
If Trumps ideas are primitive – will escalate the body count and solve nothing, what are the modern/ developed ideas that will resolve this crisis? Those of Merkel and her cronies?
If we have to take some for political reasons, we should be following the lead of Canada. Take only fully intact families directly from refugee camps in the Middle East, and subject to a background test and psyche test. No young single males.
its hard to tell the difference between a good egg and a bad egg they both look the same from the outside its whats inside that tells them apart unfortunately one bag egg can ruin an omlette
The problem is not Muslim’s , it’s the Koran , it’s filled with hate and evil
Clinton wants an open door policy in USA , what’s happening in Europe should be a red light warning to all Americans , Isis hates America more than Europe even tho Obama funded them , confusing !!
The Koran is also filled with many verses preaching love, tolerance and respect. Unfortunately that comes with a clause that it’s only mandatory to show these attributes towards other faithful Muslims and that apostates, non-believers and unfaithful Muslims are pretty much fair game for heinous crimes.
There is a very alarming percent of Muslims who abid by sharia law. And they are not a minority eitheir!
Exactly Jason , it’s not good for the gay community , we are OK as long as we pay a special tax to Muslim’s . I have nothing against that way of life but keep it in Islam states , don’t try and bring their evil brainwashed shit here , Islam and Christianity cannot live together , unfortunately one has to be destroyed and Islam is winning
Sean, would you drink glass of poisoned water knowing a couple of clean cells are in?
Well you could start by putting greater effort into fair solutions for Syria, Iran, Iraq, Palestine and give these people a chance to develop their lives. You could stop selling arms to despots. You could stop supporting Saudi Arabia and the US could seek a diplomatic solution with Israel that doesn’t begin and end with excessive security, endorse apartheid and accept that might is right.
I don’t know much about Merkal so attempting to polarize the argument is pointless. I do know that her government has successfully saved 100,000s of people from death and misery. it is all the more admirable that Germany did this sorting out problems created by UK, USA, Russia and others.
At the core of your hostility perhaps is greed and racism. You might want to be left alone in a hard security led peace to buy stuff and feel superior. This will never work. It never has.
jack i don’t know if you noticed but the world’s superpower (declining, but still the only real superpower) the USA, and the emerging superpower, China, and the worlds largest economic bloc, the EU, set the rules and run the world
That reminds me of the story of the fox and the scorpion , fox being Germany and scorpion being Islam
I think you mean the scorpion and the frog, Jack.
The German government saved 100,000s of people, but at what cost to their own? In the long run, how many good, decent Germans and other Europeans are going to be raped and murdered as a direct result of this? We don’t know yet, but it doesn’t look good. A government’s first duty is to its own people. Merkel has failed miserably in hers. She actively encouraged God knows how many dangerous young psychopaths to walk straight from the toilet that is the Muslim world into her country without thinking twice about the consequences for her people. Any idiot could have seen this coming. But she didn’t.
Trump is very much on the ball!!!
Timmay I am sick to the back teeth of Trump Nazi comparisons. The man is as mad as a hatter but he is NOT Hitler and/or a Nazi.
Stop making ludacris comparisons. It weakens your argument.
“Trump is literally Hitler !!!!111″
Trump is literally trump , Hitler is literally Hitler .. doh !! Last month I just witnessed a Muslim March in Germany chanting death to Jew’s and chanting adolf Hitler .. ironic isn’t it
Annette, myself and Peter have been warning for over a year only and were frequently charaterized as rascists. I’ve lived a long time in NL and seen these ghettos. Just go visit a-dam, r-dam, the hague (same f belgium/French cities). Here’s a clip of what goes on in NL-the guy keeps screaming “Allah is de baas van Nederland”…. https://youtu.be/dfx2LeUNhgo
I said Trump used the same classic time dishonoured Machiavellian methods as the Nazis, this is undeniable. In that way he is quite like the Nazis. He, like them, has no real solutions to anything. For him its all about gaining power. If he does actually achieve that he wont actually do anything. The unfortunate by product of this nonsense is that he creates respectability for human traits and instincts that divide and destroy people.
Think of the Brexit fallout when people were asked why they “still here”, the day after the result!. Brexit legitimized hatred fro some. Trump is a more extreme example. A narcissist, that is the beginning of him, no substance.
But we’ve had this over history time and time again. Ignorance doesn’t win out in the end. we are going through a bad patch now primarily because of the very same pointless unbounded greed that created Trump created a financial meltdown and because the Middle Eastern wars unleashed an extreme from of Islam.
The nazis had no real solution to anything? They had too many crazy solutions. Too many. Was not just about power. Adolf had clear objections which won him his support.
So i see you operate the body count exchange rate mechanism where several hundred Europeans mercilessly slaughtered are seemingly a lot more valuable than the 100,000s of people killed in Iran, Iraq and Syrian. The vast majority of whom were innocent civilians blown to pieces by western armaments. (Mainly US, UK, France).
The sadness of those European deaths and the frustration of the way they were carried out might be clouding your humanity. Or else you just don’t care and want to be left alone with your iPhone?
Western forces haven’t killed 100s of thousands of innocents in the ME.
The vast majority of those killed by coalition forces are combatants, not innocents.
The deaths of civilians in the ME is unacceptable but I wish there wasn’t as much hyperbole and misinformation going around about the facts of what is happening in the conflicts.
Who in gods name are you arguing with? Your latest comment has nothing to do with mine. Just looks like you came up with a point and through it into your thesaurus.
Ha ha , you’re comparing trump to a socialist party , Sanders has more in common with Hitler than trump
Day off work today jack?
All part of Soros and Sutherlands plan. The destruction of Europe to make way for the birth of a new ruling nation where the continents meet. Our leaders have absolutely no plan for our country, others are deciding our fate and it is not in our interest. Peaceful European countries will become like war ravaged Syria in time.
If you want to do something then flood your TD with letters telling them of your alarm to what is to become of our nation and continent decided by unelected shadow figures. Talk to your family and friends who will share your concerns. Liberate yourself from the fear of being called intolerant and racist. Be 100% intolerant to violent cults and brainwashing.
In on nights tariq or sorry I mean Liam , do you assume that anyone that gives their opinion on this are on the dole ?
That soros looks like he’s dodging the coffin a while now , can’t be much longer left in him
@Jack. His family will inherit his treason wealth.
Sure jack! A day in the pub commenting on the Journal more like.
Total number of deaths by US drones strikes over Obama’s two terms: 3800 approx. Total number of civilians killed by boko haram in 2014 alone: 6600 Get your head out of the sand.
I actually don’t drink Liam , see u know sweet f all about me , BTW idiot , it’s the left liberals who have time to organize protests and who expect everything for free , right wing or conservatives believe in contributing to the country . Liam you are a mixed up lad , u really need to see someone
Actually, their solution was to transport all European Jews to Madagascar but on losing the North African war, they lost this option. I’m not saying the fate of these poor people would have been any better, but there was a plan.
It would appear that after three attacks in almost as many days in Germany they don’t want to admit that they have a problem, the excuses are appearing almost before the ink is dry on the search warrants…
Angie doesn’t want to publicly admit she f***ed up by telling them to come. But it’s to late. The Barbarians are no longer at the Gate. She opened it and now they are inside.
despite the (now exploded) man being certainly rather unwell (two attempts to take his own life and a stint in a psych ward), the interior minister makes sure to name-check ‘islamism’ (or whatever term is being used at the moment to describe malcontent young men blowing themselves up)
Fluffer
Yes because Islamism and blowing yourself up have never really correlated.
These Islamic males flooding into Europe off ferries from the Mediterranean think Western women and easy sex objects like pornography actors on the internet. When they find out they are not then transform into ultra religious and rage against their host country.
Can’t wait for the next Donal O’Keefe article telling us we are racist. We said this would happen, but do the apologists care? Nope
If your concern was genuine you might have a point,but you just use these tragedies as a platform to espouse your hatred of Muslims.
How would you anything about me. I’ve made about 5 comments total. As usual the apologists want to turn it around and play the victim. Jog on
ugh people who apologise really grind my gears
Howya Tariq, I see you will have a busy day on the Journal, give us a few quotes from the Quran, I love them little ditties.
I’d say he is espousing his hatred of terrorists Tariq as opposed to Muslims? I mean if there was a raft of terrorist attacks committed by a bunch of people from isreal would you determine that he has a hatred of Jews and criticise him as quickly?
Or maybe Tariq its not hatred or fear of Muslims per se but the deadly dangerous ideology that is often taken to the extreme by a very large minority?.
No I like Muslim’s , but I just hate the Islam ideology , I think the Koran is a piece of shit and I think Muhammad was a paedophile and a mass murderer .
His name isn’t Tariq, it’s Liam Egan and he’s from Wexford. Google him for the craic. I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I did.
He’s an idiot .. ask him when there was an anti Isis rally held in Dublin by a Muslim cleric , less than 20 stranded .. why ?? Cos Sunni Muslim’s all support Isis and terrorist attacks on Europe
Hi Liam
Fluffer, sorry to hear that.
Tariq ibn ziyad is a wind up Ross he is as much a muslim as my budgie.
Nobody hates Muslims per se Tariq,so you can take off your cloak of victim hood. You are better off staying in your own countries however as you clearly despise us
Lizzie Birdsworth.. Why didn’t I think of that moniker,feckin brilliant
Liam “Mujaahid” Egan (Holy Warrior) Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Is tariq really that head banger Liam Egan?
No I’m not,and I’ve reported comments before for suggesting so.
A moshpit of headbangers calling someone else a headbanger now there is some irony for you.
(That site could also be slanderous – just saying
Told you it was hilarious.
Yeah we know. You’re Tariq from Bradford, who for some obscure reason spends an awful lot of his time speaking in favour of Islamic fundamentalists on an Irish news website. Sure loads of lads from Bradford do that. Why wouldn’t they.
Free speech padraig…..it’s a bitch!
Actually, no, James. There is free speech and there is slander. Two separate beasts -
Correct Padraig, but I asked a question, I did not make a slanderous statement. Let Tariq come out of the woodwork and Sue me if it’s slander….no….I thought not.
AH, Tariq. The peaceful muslim whose twitter (protected of course) shows a drawing of a man with multiple arrows on his back.
Looks like war is a main component of his mindset. Ah the peaful muslims.
@ can’t think of one, and Lizzie, I have a bad cold. But after reading you two’s comments I have destroyed my keyboard. Priceless. Well done. I will use the “Budgie” one Lizzie if you haven’t copyrighted it yet.
@tariq please be honest here , don’t use taqiyya , just tell the truth . What is your view on the gay community ?
Jack, tariq has been caught out here and has left the thread.
Slander? No, I don’t think so. For reasons only known to himself, he’s falsely claiming to be this person. We’ve simply said: ‘no you’re not, you’re that person’. Which indeed he is. Bit of a stretch to be calling that slander. If he doesn’t like it, let him stop telling silly fibs.
I fully support SSM Jack.
Goodyear,I’m at work,seems to be a lot of far-right dole scrounges here today!
OK so you’re saying you are not a real Muslim , as I thought !!
So tariq (Liam), you support ssm and in favor of sharia law….confused much.
Liam, there is in fact no such thing as a ‘far-right dole scrounger’. Every single last one of them is left-leaning. Think about it. The lefties think that everything should be free, dole scroungers want everything for free, ergo dole scroungers are left. Really Liam, this is very basic stuff.
Just googled you, & yes you are.
Common denominator.com You use these tragedies as a platform to excuse these actions. Your starting to sound like them “others”who cry “anti Semitic” as a wild card for ever and anything
You sir are a massive bell end
Slander of an anonymous troll account, yeah that will fly.
I see you cannot read again, Rowe makes sense as to why you post so many pictures and memes
The man in the picture is clearly a Christian crusader; a group ISIS have an obsession with reclaiming lands lost to them about 500 years ago in Europe.
What’s the craic today, Liamo? I told you last week to make a new profile, you silly goose.
I think you’ll find Identity Crisis Ireland and Britain First members and supporters are on the dole and are anti-immigrant so your theory holds no water.
Bigus the accusation that I am Liam Egan was first made by Dain Bramage a few months ago without any evidence. After he persisted in associating me with this individual I searched him online and found him to be a rather unsavoury character,as a result I reported Dain for continuing to level this accusation and The Journal deleted his comment accordingly. I have never commented nor held an account on Politics.ie.
Any one of us can accuse each other of being anyone at all without evidence,I suggest you and others either provide evidence you have or cease to make this connection immediately. I will not be responding to any more comments calling me Liam Egan or accusations of same from right now.
@KennyStillTaoiseach…….. Scary looking drawing showing arrows in back and blood oozing out . Anyone else make out the rest of this weird thing?
That sounds absolutely fine to me Liam, It’s been a pleasure corresponding with you.
‘Was turned away because he didn’t have a ticket’ ..!? If he had brains he’d be dangerous, or more dangerous in this case. surely buying a ticket in advance of the festival is the first step in how to be a terrorist?
Peculiar that he just happened to have a bomb handy in case of such an event?
He wasnt much of a bomb maker either if he only managed to kill himself
It mightn’t have been just himself if he’d detonated it in a tightly packed crowd inside the festival.
3 are critically injured.
#youaintnorefugeebruv
Did the bleeding hearts not think that acumen would not take the opportunity to mingle with real refugees. Open borders don’t work and endanger us all and our children. Shame on apologists. Shame.
Sc um = acumen
It’s Started
He was worried “the right to asylum would be undermined” by the events of the past week.
So detonating an explosive device with the aim to kill will somehow ease that worry.
The excuses are unbelievable.
I read that as being an opinion expressed by this Interior guy, Hermann, not the bomber. Which would make more sense.
It was the opinion of the state politician,when your red mist settles Rowe,try reading the article again,this time slower.
They should start burying them with pig corpses.
It would seem “mental health issues” is a very common demomiator among the migrants. It’s a good reason to keep them at a distance even if they are not “radicalised”. Allowing people who should be in an asylum into your country to wander the streets is foolhardy and reckless. Allowing Islamic migrants with mental health issues is doubly reckless and dangerous as Germany is finding out now on a daily basis.
I wonder if it was a white nationalist would it be blamed on mental health problems? Would his reasons for doing so be vague and unclear? Would they change his name so he would sound less white. Would the police and media work together to cover the incident? The hypocrosy and the pandering to these barbaric animals from the middle east from the media and some of the posters here, sickens me more than these animals
Marv do you als, then, wabt want to deport the tens of thousands of Irish people who suffer from mental health problems?
@Neal I know your postings, the above one is not one of your better ones. Like i did myself earlier, anyhow leave Marg alone:}
So let me guess – another lone crazy guy. Sure are a lot of those lately.
there always has
Another insane asylum seeker causing mayhem abroad, don’t they have any insane asylums where they come from?
The moment I saw #WelcomeRefugees there have been multiple terrorist attacks. Coincidence right? Such a shame we have so many “racists” telling the truth about the cancer that could potentially tear down Europe down into a third world country. Whatever happened to the phrase “Think of the children!”. We will have to put a stop to this liberal nonsensical surrendering to the the third world and Islam eventually. Better sooner than later if you ask me.
define ‘liberal’
Much like Americans with Communist, They have no idea what it means. Apparently we all love Muslims so much we want them all to live with us. Whereas I can’t abide by any adult following such a backwards set of beliefs. This goes for the Christians too. it’s 2016, Time to grow up and leave childish superstitions behind.
Germany is becoming a parody of itself and the excuses from the liberals are as astounding as they are disgraceful. Firstly they try to paint the Nice attacker as a “lone wolf” who had problems because his wife divorced him – then we find out he had been radicalised and had a support network who furnished him with knowledge and weapons. Then the train attack, where an Afghan refugee attacked 17 people with an axe – we must take pity on him they say as he had mental issues too. Then Munich where the liberal media including this site engage in a cover up – we are told he was a loner who took inspiration from Anders Breivik except for the fact he was a German Iranian Muslim who had help from a now arrested accomplice – a 16 year old Afghan teen. The liberals even tried to rewrite the definition of the Iranian race, trying to tell us he was a White neo nazi. Then the attack in Reutlingen where a Syrian Refugee hacked to death a pregnant woman and injured 2 others – again the man was mentally unstable we are told we must take pity. And finally the bomb last night – the liberal media ran with a gas explosion despite it not being confirmed by police and we’re left with egg on their faces again when it turned out to be a Suicide bomber. And you can see again there’s already the mentally u stable excuse being wheeled out again instead of calling out once and for all this twisted and sick ideology and this perilous situation Merkel has out Europe in.
Don’t get me started on what happened in Cologne and in Paris.
Empty rhetoric.
who do you mean by ‘liberals’?
It’s an imaginary group fantasists like Eamon make up in their head because they can’t provide an intelligent or adult synopsis of the situation,ergo,faceless bogeymen and conspiracies everywhere. It’s far easier than providing facts and doing research.
I think he means People who are pro equal rights for women and pro Gay marriage but will, for some bizarre reason, bend over backwards to accommodate and defend a religion that inherently denies both these things and currently inspires Jihadi Terrorism.
@Tariq, You say “adult synopsis”
Take a look at the link below……….. Rowe posted it yesterday. Not for the squeamish. Adult Synopsis.. good one, you must pass that on to Alan Kelly and the boys.
Liberals are soft crybabies usually referred to now as snowflakes
Oh the irony
And the lady and her daughters attacked in France a week or so ago at the resort they were staying at. They kept that one quiet too.
I notice Tariq did not reply…..
Tariq (Liam), you’re labeling others as fantasists when you’re the one who’s pretending to be a Muslim from Bradford? The hypocrisy meter just overheated.
Also, Tariq has a nice cover picture on his Twitter account of a Crusader dying with arrows in his back. Given ISIS’s obsession with recreating medieval conditions across the world, and regaining territory in Europe that they lost during Crusader times (southern Spain, Malta etc) I hope the security services are monitoring Tariq very, very closely.
Liam?
A blog called The Muslim Issue,PMSL! Holds about as much credibility as a note written on a napkin FFS
Hi Helen,I don’t have time for long replies at the moment as I’m at work contributing meaningfully to society.
So, Tariq. What in Islam holds any credibility? Since anyone that claims to speak for any sizeable amount of muslims is at risk of being sent to their creator…
Tariq,
Defending the indefensible as usual…http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/690185/Paris-attacks-Bataclan-victims-castrated-eyes-gouged-out-ISIS-jihadis-inquiry-hears
A quick google of ‘Bataclan torture cover up’ should get you a media outlet of your choice.
@Tariq or Liam, we all know you are going to change your name now, but your waffle , sorry dribble will always shine through when you are reincarnated, so to speak, Jesus I crack myself up on my own comments sometimes. I think I need to see a shrink. all in favor give me a red.
great post Eamonn
Heh..yes Helen. ‘Tariq’ has no time for this, he’s working tirelessly to make ‘Bradford’ a better place and can’t be on his phone every five minutes.
you keep repeating yourself fluffy.
A quick look at the real-world historical character that Tariq ibn Ziyat is named after should leave little doubt as to where his sympathies lie.
Indeed.
Bet the people of Germany will be delighted with Merkel now after letting in all those migrants. The beginning of the end for heron doubt.
Can’t see Merkel winning 4th term in Oct 2017 elections
maybe the country will be locked down by then and elections cancelled. doesn’t sound too far fetched these days
Can you imagine how many Ibrahim Halawa articles are backing up at the Journal? dont worry lads its bound to calm down soon, any day now for sures
Ah “Ibrahim” sad story that…. I was talking to his dad a few days ago over a few gragles, Gas crack the oulfella is, lucky I could speak English………..
Next.
” Gargles” must have had to many of them.
“Too” Maybe your English isn’t as good as you think?
Sorry Pauli , only awake now, on me holliers.
Asylum refused a year ago. THEN he’s given a place to live. Germany needs to review its asylum process I think.
This is the key point and the root of the problem. How many of the failed asylum seekers are actually physically deported.
And there we have Merkel wanting all of Europe to share the terrorists
Now you know why.
Headline says “thirteen killed”, but the body of article says the perpetrator died and twelve were wounded.
Does “The Journal” even bother with an editor? Or at the very least even read what you write?
Very sloppy, lazy journalism.
It said 12 dead, then 13 wounded, then 12 wounded.
Baker’s dozen?
Hang on are 12 dead or 12 wounded? Headline says dead, article says wounded.
Following the principle of “publish first, verify later” the article headline has now been changed to correlate with the article.
I didn’t want to mention this yesterday, my wife’s mate took 2 days to get into her house in Munich. The place has been in lock down. This is not in the news. Everybody terrified. She just wants to leave Germany and leave all possessions there! I will let you know details later when she talks to her again.
i often have difficulty getting in my front door when ive a few jars
The lefties don’t care how many are dead or wounded, It’s only important not to offend these people, anyway, it’s nothing to do with their religion/culture as the ones that are murdering were “mad” to start with, so as the lefties say, “oh, look over there”.
Ibrahims’ Dad wants a meeting to clarify remarks made by Frances Fitzgerald on Muslim radicalization!
That’s a good one, the M.B. asking “us” to explain ourselves.
If they’re not raping, slashing or stabbing they’re blowing themselves up. #RefugeesWelcome
Conri, are you implying that they’re perfectly sane?
As Robert says in his comment below, if it was anybody other than a Muslim, they would have to prove their insane, but the western governments use it to cover up the real reasons for the attacks, exactly the same as in Rowes comment where they covered up the torture of the victims in France.
One of Merkel’s “refugees”
people can be two things
He had “mental issues”…..he also had a talent for making bombs!! After cologne the German authority’s cant be trusted.. A constant white wash of these incidents…. Blaming lack of integration,lone wolf, brevik supporter or even the far right… And the donkeys that said “refugees welcome” with such moral superiority now are to blame. You were played and You were pawns for a much bigger picture.
Now what excuses has the apologists now ? He suffered from mental problems , his country was bombed ??? Here’s the real reason , he reads a sick twisted book called the Quran about a twisted paedophile Muhammad , because of Muslim’s long tradition of inbreeding , they are easy targets to be radicalized due to problems such as schizophrenia . Let’s face the truth before more innocents get slaughtered , Islam is the problem .. it’s a sick twisted evil ideology
Germany was practically flattened by the summer of 1945 with entire cities pulverised. There were very few Germans willing to strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up in America, Germany and the USSR after the war ended.
The excuse that their country was bombed doesn’t stand up.
Laos is regarded as the most bombed country in history. Where are all the Laotian suicide bombers? With or without mental health issues? The problem is the ideology that has nothing but contempt for Western freedoms.
There is absolutely nothing more damaging to society as a do-gooder. The Germans are now sadly suffering the consequences of having one as the leader of their country. Merkel should swing for this.
Can’t wait to read the biography of Angela Merkel detailing how she was a threat and a traitor to Western culture and society. Our values and well being is more important than these refugees. Deport them now. Reverse the process. We’re only how many months in and it’s already getting bad!
They need to start burying these Muslim lunatics with pig corpses. It worked in The Philippines.
Feed the conts to the pigs, even better.
Suppose no one thinks it is all somewhat a little strange. Even when interesting things surface such as
French officer claims interior ministry made her alter Nice attack report – http://goo.gl/UY6Dl8
What I don’t understand or more to the point find incredibly weird is who benefits from all this. No one is asking a single question and just following the party line. Germany is so random, in its randomness, it somewhat smells like something not so random, and has not followed a single trait, of stereotypical extremist, Islamist, history, not at all.
I also do not believe the thin straw argument for the deleting of the CCTV footage. Why would you not want the footage examined, pulled apart and investigated with every effort possible?
Nice attack: City refuses police call to delete CCTV images – http://goo.gl/ltejwR
There are two very clear reasons for allowing such a mass of people into Europe (bear in mind I don’t support them and I’ve included rebuttals below):
Social – Europe only 80 years ago was a hotbed of racism and hostility towards minorities, which escalated to the point where it was seen as a logical step to build mass execution facilities in Germany.
Economical – Europe is struggling to keep up with conflicting economical demands. On the one hand, we need highly trained and educated workers to keep the modern tech and manufacturing industries going. On the other hand we still need menial labour for basic tasks like farming, fishing, mineral extraction and construction which our workforce is becoming too educated to do.
The problem is neither of these work well. The social aspect is merely paranoia that slight controls now will lead to another holocaust in the coming years which is itself a ridiculous argument. The economic side also doesn’t work, as when you mix a wealthier ethnic group (native Europeans) with a poorer ethnic group (poorly educated migrants) you end up with American-style mass poverty and crime.
There are several holes in that narrative Jason.
You cannot use America as an example to back up the argument against immigration. One, America profited highly from immigration; actually, it is an immigration built country. However, it is the socioeconomic policy that caused the divisions along with politics. We cannot fully determine the impacts of better political and social integration methodologies as they did not follow a model of inclusive integration. Thus it ‘s hard to draw actual parallels.
We could also use the Australian model that has built one of the richest countries in the world based off the back of controlled immigration. So it becomes not so much immigration is bad; however, the how and to where becomes one of the criteria.
Using Germany and the war situation and the evils of men with a somewhat warped view of what race is, also holds little weight in that overall argument and to include it, is rather strange.
Also, just saying not sure how that fitted the narrative of my thread, but anyway.
Pádraig, you’re right that America was built on immigration but you need to think of what type of immigration. Most of the immigrants to America came from Europe, primarily Western and Central Europe to be precise. The largest ethnic groups there come from German, Irish, Italian, British and Polish origins. You’ll note that here in Europe the inter-EU migration of workers has also been remarkably successful. European ethnic groups simply ‘click’ as our cultures are not that far apart from one another compared to say German and Saudi culture.
America is actually a very good comparison point as it is a wealthy modern nation with a serious poverty issue and associated crime rates which is a strong forewarning for what will happen here if we keep going as we are. Honestly I could have easily picked Sweden as an example where a poor predominantly Muslim minority group has failed to integrate, failed to attain comparable employment to European immigrants in Sweden and thus commit a disproportionate level of crime.
You are just ignoring socioeconomic integration issues, Jason. And then pinning things on ‘culture’ there are many negates to that argument (examples) – And there it is again the Muuuuuusllllimmmm – Why not just say what you mean Jason, and say (You think) Muslims cannot make up an immigration sector (even though) that is also false. I have heard this wrongful argument for some 30+ years, and it always falls over.
Then again you don’t understand why Russia did not do anything wrong in the Crimea, either, so maybe your understanding of culture is somewhat misunderstood. Which is actually highly ironic with your foundational argument and you, in fact, should have supported the Crimean narrative. As it would add extra weight to your ideas on culture.
Also, how would you quantify that the Irish have been marginalised in nearly every country they emigrated to right the way through to modern times. In fact, every ethnic group has been marginalised to some extent, either pocket or widely, only to integrate and ‘enrich’ the cultures in later years. So it would seem small mindedness and bigotry has always been alive and well, only to be proven in the majority of cases, wrong.
Great points Jason but I think from merkels view it’s more economical ,as German men are not man enough to produce heirs , merkel knows the population will decline , who pays her pension , answer .. refugees . Sadly German liberals want to dilute the population and destroy the blond blue eyed German , these liberals are the ultimate enemy and traitor . This has seriously back fired , I know not all are radicals but they all want Sharia law which means they are incompatible ,they need to return to Syria , we need to restore Assad under strict conditions , pay for the rebuilding of Syria cos we are responsible for its destruction especially NATO , USA and Russia
Never go full Merkel!
let me guess, he was angry at his gay lover, depressed, bullied , don’t not sure they can come up with anymore excuses do you ?
Notice how that story pretty much died off in European media when the FBI announced that there was no evidence that he was a repressed homosexual?
The media here was happy to run with it when it could be blamed on American gun culture and homophobia, but when it became clear it was another Jihadi they dropped the story.
Thats what u get when u let the fox live with the chickens
Wrong headline is not so important as the fact that it is another attack by an infiltrator. Only strictly vetted refugees should be allowed the freedom to roam in a host country. Free for all / open door policies should be scrapped. If I could speak on behalf of all the victims in all these attacks, I like to invite all those on here promoting free, one world, no questions movement, to kindly Fu(k off to whatever utopia you imagine possible. This guy, and probably some buddies, was allowed by your ilk to skip ahead of some poor family that needed rescuing in Syria, adding to the tragedies in both countries.
It’s too late to close the door and has been for some time. There are probably thousands more like him in Germany now. We can expect to see this on the news every day from here on in, and at this stage there is f*kc all that anyone can do to stop it. The damage was done last summer when Merkel said ‘party at my house, everyone invited’ to the entire population of North Africa and the Middle East. The eastern states of the EU had enough cop-on at the time to question the wisdom of it and try to protect themselves, and were roundly condemned for doing so by the warm-and-fuzzy brigade. Who’s the fool now?
I thought the Snackbar was dead?
What amazes me most. Is even after so many Islamic terrorist attacks across Europe there are those on here willing to make excuses for and defend this psychopathic cult called Islam. They are excusing and defending the very thing that would destroy everything they consider freedom.
years ago when your kids went to a rock concert then the only thing you had to worry about was maybe crowds being too big, an odd drunken brawl or maybe having a bit too much to drink… next time my 17 year old asks me to go to a concert here in Europe I’ll be giving it a bit more thought… a sign of the times we live in… young people being killed and injured for no particular reason…
Seems like there’s nowhere safe and nobody’s safe the way the world is going now.
How many on here slagged off Hungary when they closed their borders. Who was right in the end. One of the few EU nations to see what was coming.
I certainly didn’t Mick the Slovaks , Poles And the Hungarians knew exactly what was likely to happen, unless Islam reforms itself it cannot fit into Western culture , in every European with a sizeable Muslim population there are constant problems, high unemployment / crime in France over 70% of prisoners are Muslim and similar in Belgium , Netherlands and the Nordic countries , Victor Orban understands the reality of the lack of assimilation just look at Molenbeek in Brussels a North African enclave in a major European capital and this is replicated throughout Europe if we do not call a halt to this open border nonsense we will have the same problems in a generation
The Hungarians have history with Islam, negative that is, the Huns suffered terribly under Ottoman rule. They were right to close their borders.
Victor Orban – https://youtu.be/EbINrdyAXlE
We know one of the groups in the Middle East that are causing so much death, don’t we Rowe. Dem Zionists are looking to be feeling much more wrath soon enough, maybe then we might start the road of recovery.
people out there read why what happen to Gaddafi, for months he was warning the UK of this, why is it the eu and us were always fighting over Turkey, was it cause of Qatar-Turkey pipeline which then goes into europe, so by allowing refugees in and welcoming them at any cost we (the big eu leaders/business) now will have allies in the middle east making it easier for a deal to made, and why the eu and usa have come up with TTIP, and with this terror treat in the eu will push up the sale of arms trade with the eu countries which will help their new usa friends as well. Whats worrying our little Island will there be a real a terror group or usa / eu made up use of Shannon airport for a reason for attack on our land so we will then support the eu army , that will join in with the usa to invade the middle east to get control of the gas and other resources. All this for greed of capitalism,
This is a post I mistakenly put in the Florida bombing topic and the usual Islamo-fascist supporters sneered and laughed at my error.
—”Muslim Brotherhood paid internet shils and Thumb Jihadis out early to-day. Objective being to downplay Islamic involvement so that terrorist attacks can proceed and increase without counteraction by ineffective Euro. Governments.
Police have found a video of him swearing allegiance to ISIS. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3706063/Explosion-reported-near-Nuremberg-Germany-one-killed-newspaper.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline
It’s the poor mental health patients I feel for
Angela Merkel should resign.
This is a mental health issue, not a terrorist attack
Anyone who tries to kill a mass of people is a terrorist regardless of mental issues
Is a sad day what i beed to post the definition of terrorism to an adult
Terrorism .
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce
All terrorists are mental just so you know..
Pretty pathetic attempt at deflection there Martin. He was a Syrian immigrant and a Muslim who strapped a bomb to himself and went to a large public gathering for the sole purpose of killing and wounding as many people as possible.
That is a terrorist.
@Martin .. idiot
Once it involves religion it’s a mental health issue no matter what flavour. Doesn’t mean it’s not a terrorist attack as well.
That is the ‘first’ definition the internet offers when terrorism searched, it is is not the only definition. Google Search is a result, not absolute knowledge.
Martin http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/25/muslims-disrupt-mourners-at-munich-memorial-with-shouts-
An economist has told the “Bild” newspaper that the retirement age in Germany may have to be raised to 73 years by the year 2041.
They told everyone that immigrants would pay for our pensions.
Now it looks like it will be us who will be paying for the immigrants.
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