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Government beaten as senators vote to ban upward only rent reviews

There was applause in the chamber, but not from Fine Gael or Labour senators.

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The Seanad chamber after the government was defeated today

THE GOVERNMENT HAS lost another vote in the Seanad on the issue of upward only rent reviews after the opposition called a walk through vote this afternoon.

Applause broke out in the chamber as the opposition parties, Fianna Fáil and Sinn Féin, and independent senators, including the Taoiseach’s nominees, ensured the passage of a bill proposed by independent senator Feargal Quinn to ban upward only rent reviews.

The first electronic vote on the committee and final stages of the legislation was passed by 23 votes to 22 thanks to the casting vote of the Seanad cathaoirleach Paddy Burke.

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But after the opposition called a walk through vote, Reform Alliance senator Paul Bradford arrived in the chamber to help the attempt to pass the bill by 23 votes to 22.

The same thing happened on a different stage of the same legislation last October when the government was defeated largely due to the absence of Labour senators John Kelly, John Whelan, Denis Landy and Jimmy Harte (who is currently seriously ill in hospital).

The same senators were absent again today as were two European election candidates, Labour’s Lorraine Higgins, who is running in Midlands North West, and Fine Gael’s Deirdre Clune, who is running in Ireland South.

In some cases the government senators may have been paired-off with opposition senators who were also absent. For example, Rónán Mullen, who is running as an independent in the European elections, was also absent today.

In addition, Harte’s absence in recent months has seen him paired with Fianna Fáil’s Labhrás Ó Murchú in votes.

Quinn’s bill now goes to the Dáil where the government’s huge majority is likely to ensure it does not progress much further. The coalition has previously stated that constitutional issues prevent it from addressing the issue of upward only rent reviews.

Nonetheless, Quinn declared himself “thrilled” on Twitter this afternoon:

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This was not the first time the government has been defeated in the current Seanad with the opposition and independent senators joining forces to defeat the coalition twice on its agenda for the day – the Order of Business – in June 2012.

There was also a near miss in August of last year when Burke had to use his casting vote to ensure that an opposition motion on organ transplant legislation was defeated.

[Screengrabs: Oireachtas TV and Twitter]

Previously: ‘The question is carried, isn’t it?’: The moment the government was defeated in the Seanad

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    Mute Kal Ipers
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:15 AM

    I’m Irish too and we don’t normally have parties on graves or monuments to the dead. Doesn’t particularly offend me if we did but it isn’t some Irish thing like he is making out

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    Mute Shane Murphy
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:23 AM

    @Kal Ipers: all the same it’s satisfying to see paddy chow down on some humble pie

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    Mute Kal Ipers
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:31 AM

    @Shane Murphy: Why?

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    Mute john Appleseed
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:44 AM

    @Kal Ipers: because the Irish hate to see each other do well. Rise above the parapet and we’re ready to knock them down.

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    Mute Martin Flood
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:33 AM

    @Kal Ipers: Because Shane begrudges successful people who have worked hard to become who they are.

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    Mute the phantom
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    Nov 14th 2017, 11:10 AM

    @john Appleseed: I don’t hate success. But I do despise C***s. If this guy was a down and out I suspect I would still feel the same way.

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    Mute Kal Ipers
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    Nov 14th 2017, 12:02 PM

    @the phantom: So what did he do to you or offend you so much?

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    Mute Mick Stafford
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    Nov 14th 2017, 1:04 PM

    @Kal Ipers: I think Paddy is fast becoming the Lewis Hamilton of the Tech World – really talented and very much at the top of his game but very hard to like!

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    Mute Father Hody Commody
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    Nov 14th 2017, 1:06 PM

    @the phantom: Bit you don’t explain why.

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    Mute Martin Byrne
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    Nov 15th 2017, 10:03 AM

    @Kal Ipers: I was just thinking the same, Karl.

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:21 AM

    The Conor McGregor of events management. Thinks they can do what they want as they have fawning rich people using them, and then claim it is something “Irish”.

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    Mute Brinster
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:28 AM

    @Gulliver Foyle:

    Actually felt a bit sorry for him until I read his “apology”.

    This was clearly being used as a political football – there were several other dinners held at the site over the last few yeas apparently, all with the blessing of the old administration.

    But that horse manure about our different approach to death….we celebrate it….what complete trash.

    Don’t recall much celebrating at any of the funerals I was at for those who took their own life.

    What is so difficult about just saying a simple sorry and moving on? Why do their egos not allow that?

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    Mute Matt Connolly
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:41 AM

    @Brinster: Because we now live in the age of spin. Where it’s ‘clever’ to apologise, but at the same time, not apologise.

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    Mute Richard Carroll
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    Nov 14th 2017, 12:28 PM

    @Gulliver Foyle: if Eva Longoria is one of these reach people you speak about then I’m open to be used a little…. or a lot…. Just putting it out there

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    Mute Tom Purcell
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:43 AM

    Being Irish has nothing to do with it, It is a simle matter of having respect for the dead – we don’t hold barbecues in Glasnevin

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    Mute Reuben Gray
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    Nov 14th 2017, 11:39 AM

    @Tom Purcell: No but we deposit busloads of tourists to wander around, probably many munching on some kind of snack.

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    Mute Jane
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:56 AM

    Apologies if you feel it’s necessary but don’t blame it on being Irish. It has absolutely nothing to do with it.

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    Mute Larry Doyle
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:31 AM

    Can’t imagine him being allowed to put on a big feed for his rich friends in the Garden Of Remembrance but then again maybe he is the type that likes to drink in graveyards……

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    Mute Zx5vZulB
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:54 AM

    @Larry Doyle: you have a poor imagination Larry. If you had read the article you would see they had a dinner in crypt of Christchurch cathedral. Hardly a stretch to imagine similar events in a graveyard, is it?

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    Mute Gulliver Foyle
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    Nov 14th 2017, 11:35 AM

    @Zx5vZulB: big difference between the tomb of strongbow and the resting place of recent presidents and, er, eusebio. I always thought it was the medieval setting when they did that nonsense in Christchurch, not realising it was to dine with dead bodies in a cultish manner, thinking they’re some sort of freemasons.

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    Mute Larry Doyle
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    Nov 14th 2017, 2:20 PM

    Thanks for the review of my imagination gar, it was very imaginative.

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    Mute Ciarán FitzGerald
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:59 AM

    Cosgrave took his money and operation and ran to Lisbon… I don’t like the false idolization of the man at all but I wouldn’t begrudge him the success.
    Paddy is Irish when it suits his apologies and it’s Cosgrave International when he got too big for his boots here… Cant have the cake and eat it too Paddy.

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    Mute Martin Flood
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:36 AM

    @Ciarán FitzGerald: As far as I recall, no Irish venue could produce the quality of service he required to hold his exhibit. It was out of necessity he moved the show to Portugal.

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    Mute Darach Malone
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:35 AM

    Causing problems wherever he goes…

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    Mute Quentin Moriarty
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    Nov 14th 2017, 7:46 PM

    @Darach Malone: like Sideshow Bob

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:16 AM

    This is a minor controversy which will soon be dead and buried.

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    Mute Rory J Leonard
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:04 AM

    @Fiona deFreyne:

    Yes, it needs encryption to avoid any further breach.

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    Mute Ian Walsh
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:26 AM

    Since when do the Irish celebrate death? Do we not celebrate the life of the the deceased? I don’t know any Irish person that celebrates death. Anyway, another non story about Paddy pout.

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    Mute Mark Dunne
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:00 AM

    He’s a self righteous Pain.

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    Mute Steve
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:13 AM

    Being forced to apologize for something that was completely legal. M

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    Mute Paddy
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:49 AM

    @Steve: he wasn’t forced to apologise he was criticised for being disrespectful! The guy was probably advised to apologise by his public relations officer!

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    Mute David Knight
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:47 AM

    Why is he apologising? It’s not like he owns the place. I assume he paid a pretty price to have the function there. Surely whoever looks after the place should be the one’s apologising!

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    Mute gerry fallon
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:46 AM

    He seems to have a thing about eating his din dins on consecrated ground.That seems right for his morbid personality.

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    Mute Patrick James Walsh
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    Nov 14th 2017, 11:56 AM

    Dear Paddy Cosgrave, I`m Irish , we don`t `celebrate death`, we celebrate the lives of our loved ones and heroes who have passed on, and we pay our respects and commemorate them in the appropriate manner just as the Portugese and every civilized nation do.
    Would it be appropriate to host a web event at The Garden of Remembrance, or Arbor Hill or Glasnevin cemetry for example. Would be be appropriate to host a web event at the cenotaph in London for example, or war graves in Belgium and France. Crass insensitive and insulting to the intelligence of the Portugese people.

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    Mute Living The Laws
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:18 AM

    thank fu<k we donlt have to listen to this gobsh!te here any more.

    to say the reason is rooted in Irish tradition is an insult to all Irish people everywhere. he should apologise to us now.

    and as for this "I love this country as a second home and would never seek to offend the great heroes of Portugal’s past.". disgraceful comment. portugal should never be permitted to forget what it founded off the backs of others. in the name of god. terrible history

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    Mute Paddy
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:53 AM

    Wouldn’t begrudge the guy success but his attitude stinks

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    Mute Fiona deFreyne
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:52 AM

    Social events are regularly held in the Pantheon in Paris where many of the great figures in French culture and history are buried. Of course the Pantheon is no longer a church.

    As long as the deceased occupants are invited to join in the festivities, I see no major issue. You rarely hear the dead complain.

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    Mute MyBrokenKnees
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:51 AM

    That lad is so far up his own arse it’s not even funny.

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    Mute Barra O Brien
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    Nov 14th 2017, 1:01 PM

    @MyBrokenKnees: He’s so far up there he can see his dinner

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    Mute Dave Sherman
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:46 AM

    Enda will be knocking back a half one and smiling.

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    Mute Red Ruskie
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    Nov 14th 2017, 1:51 PM

    Suits him to be Irish when he needs it!

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    Mute Jake
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    Nov 14th 2017, 11:25 AM

    Clown full stop.

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    Mute Paul Whitehead
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    Nov 14th 2017, 12:02 PM

    As I’m Irish, Im planning a huge party next week in glasnevin cemetery on my granny’s grave. Followed by a few cans in the pro-cathedral. The usual irish party. All welcome. Even Paddy.

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    Mute Joseph Dempsey
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:54 AM

    This Steve Jobs wannabe is quite the clown

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    Mute Marcia Craine
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:17 AM

    Shocking anger in some of the twitter responses.

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    Mute Isabel Oliveira
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:19 AM

    This has nothing to do with Paddy C. The legislation from the troika days allows the rental of these places for dinners . I think it should be revoked for this particular building but that’s another matter .

    Portuguese press and internal political wars have made a storm in a tea cup . The faux outrage will be , as usual , short lived .

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    Mute Brian O Reilly
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    Nov 14th 2017, 9:55 AM

    It depends,What was on the Menu ?

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    Mute Martin Flood
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    Nov 14th 2017, 10:38 AM

    @Brian O Reilly: Chips.

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    Mute Mick Johnson
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    Nov 14th 2017, 1:08 PM

    Bit Kevin Spacey-ish.

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    Mute Enda
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    Nov 14th 2017, 8:30 PM

    Dear Portugal
    Mr Cosgrove is a fool if he thinks you should believe him in what he says. Partying on the graves of hero’s. Disgraceful and disrespectful to the people of Portugal

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    Mute Shane Cormican
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    Nov 14th 2017, 1:57 PM

    WTF?

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