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NINETY-TWO-YEAR-OLD Johanna beams at the 20-year-old stepping into her room — not a visiting grandson, but rather a housemate at her retirement home.
Town planning student Jurrien is one of six who have chosen to live in the yellow-brick home in Deventer in the eastern Netherlands as part of a unique project that benefits everyone.
The university students pay no rent and in exchange spend at least 30 hours a month with some of the 160 elderly who live here, doing the things professional staff cannot always do — such as just hanging out.
“They go see the pensioners for a chat, they play games, go with them to the shopping centre, (and) do shopping for those who can’t,” says activity coordinator Arjen Meihuizen.
Gea Sijpkes, the head of the Humanitas retirement home, said: “It’s important not to isolate the elderly from the outside world.”
When you’re 96 years old with a knee problem, well, the knee isn’t going to get any better, the doctors can’t do much.
But what we can do is create an environment where you forget about the painful knee.
Preventing care ‘ghettoes’
While retirement homes in many European countries – including Ireland – lack enough rooms for an ageing population, budget cuts by the Dutch government have made it increasingly difficult to get a subsidised place, leaving some with more rooms than they can fill.
The sharing idea has resonated in a country where many people do volunteer work, and other retirement homes are coming up with their own variations on the theme.
So-called “intergenerational” projects are also springing up elsewhere in Europe, but usually not within retirement homes because of the shortage of rooms.
In some schemes, the elderly rent out a room in their own house or apartment, in others, housing projects are built specifically to house the young with the elderly.
In the French city Lyon, a project was set up for students to pay rent to live in a retirement home, but the rules are strict and, unlike in Deventer, friends are not allowed to visit.
In Britain, a commission chaired by a former minister recommended in September that new housing for the elderly and disabled should be incorporated into shopping developments, new apartment blocks and even universities to prevent the elderly from being cut off in “care ghettoes”.
“The old model saw care homes as isolated institutions where things were done to you rather than for you and were islands of misery,” said former care minister Paul Burstow.
Care homes that are cut off from their communities aren’t real homes.
Graffiti workshops
The students in Deventer prepare simple meals for some of the elderly in the evening and offer them activities according to their interests. Student Jordi, for instance, took a group into the garden and gave them cans of paint to spray on cardboard so they could learn about graffiti.
Jurrien gives weekly computer lessons to Anton Groot Koerkamp, 85.
“Now I can send emails, go on the internet, look up videos and go on Facebook,” he said proudly.
There is no obligation for the elderly to take part in activities with the students.
But many, like Jurrien’s neighbour Johanna, seem happy with the arrangement.
“I’m old, he’s young, but we get along well,” she said.
“We do small things, not much really, but it can help put them in a good mood,” said Jurrien.
Student rooms are too small
“Not only do I not pay any rent, but I also like working with the elderly,” said journalism student Denise, 22.
Given that student rooms are too small, too dirty and too expensive, this is a fantastic alternative.
“For €400 I’d get barely 10 square metres (100 square feet) and I’d have to share the kitchen and bathroom,” Jurrien said.
Here I have twice as much space and I have my own kitchen and bathroom.
The students can have friends over for drinks and even have a partner over for the night. There is no curfew or other restriction as long as the students are reasonable.
“One time I came back in the middle of the night and I woke my neighbour (Johanna), she wasn’t very happy,” said Jurrien.
So, being a good neighbour I went and apologised and promised not to do it again.
Then again, Jurrien said, smiling: “When she watches (Dutch television game show) ‘Lingo’, I can hear everything through the wall.”
I got an appointment but didn’t need it because I got booster in work but there is no way of cancelling the appointment only requesting a new one. This might have something to do with the percentage…
@Mary Ryan: exactly. Same here and for others in my dept. If every healthcare worker who gets their booster in work is being booked in at an alternative location, then that will account for a huge proportion of so-called “no shows”. Perhaps if they had a cancel option on the text, they could give the appointment to someone else. But it’s the HSE, so…
@Mary Ryan: did you actually ring the helpline?
@Anna Carr: most people dont have time to wait 45 mins on hold to tell somebody they can’t make an appointment/postpone it to be fair..so frustration will take hold at some stage where you’ll just sat feck it
@Pol Mlp: I understand. Maybe I was just lucky getting through after 10 minutes.
@Mary Ryan: v sad that HSE is spending millions on digitisation, delivering mega profits to external consultants and the level of service is still this bad. It’s the Childrens Hospital over and over. No accountability for the misuse of taxpayers funds. The buck stops with Minister Donnelly and the Taoiseach.
@Mary Ryan: I was given 2 options, reply Yes to reschedule or phone the Covid Helpline which I presume you would do to cancel. I’d say a lot of people are doing neither and just not turning up. If they get their booster elsewhere then this will be registered centrally eventually and they will be taken off the no show list I should imagine. They had all of the details of my first two vaccines when I was at the centre even though I received a different drug first time and at a different location so good setup.
@Anna Carr: yes Anna, you were lucky.
@Mary Ryan:
HSE systems again, when u got the booster it should have come up on their IT system that u got the boster, another one that is showing No Showing is u can’t get a booster vaccine till 6 months after getting Covid. U can inform them that u can’t get the booster due to their regulations with covid but u will be put down as a no show. They have no way of reccording people who can’t get the booster because of having had covid.
City West today had 24 hatches available for registering people for the booster only 4 hatches manned people waiting over 2 hours to get registered, numerous people leaving the que. No wonder such high rates, comments made by people completely detached for the reality on the ground
@Carl Corcoran: so you had to wait. If they were handing out €1000 at those hatches, I don’t think you would have a problem.
@Anna Carr: but they weren’t handing out €1000
@Anna Carr: Most people have work and childcare to worry about in addition to appeasing the governments “booster” programme. Such a flippant comment Anna.
@LaoisWeather: ur not appeasing anyone it’s ur choice if u feel ur been put out by having to get ur free booster don’t get it stay on work or collect ur kids instead easy solution
@LaoisWeather: saving lives and agonising deaths for those who were careful is not flippancy and that guy answered my comment perfectly. “but they weren’t handing out €1000″. Do people even hear themselves?
@Anna Carr: stoo.pid comment. Adds nothing to the debate. C.o.p on.
@Anna Carr: you should call yourself Wayne
@Neil Neart: it’s the very heart of the debate. You just don’t want to hear it.
@David Bishop: why? I’m not with you
@Carl Corcoran: you DO NOT have to register for the booster. You receive a text message.
@Carl Corcoran:
@Giovanni cans: I want my grand first
@Ann Basquille Smith: When you get to the vaccination centre you have to register at the desk before you can get the jab.
@Anna Carr: Seriously silly comment.
@Aidan Haughey: is it though? Really?
@Anna Carr: How many people do you want to tell it to you? Yes, it was silly.
@Nollaig Ó Ceallaigh: so says you. Who even are you?
@Carl Corcoran: Genuinely, thanks for the heads up, at least we know to allow hours for the process if necessary. Out of curiosity, was it a socially distanced queue, and indoors?
The HSE send you an appointment without verifying if it is convenient or if you want it at all.That was never going to be as successful as you making your own appointment as what happened for your first vaccines.
@Roger Bond: Honestly an inconvenient time is no excuse. You make the time and take the Jab. We are lucky to be in a country getting boosters never mind vaccination in general. Almost 65% of the world is currently unvaccinated so we should stop moaning and get on with it.
@Heather Knowles: Well said Heather Knowles. We simply have to get on with and the sooner the better.
@Heather Knowles: wonderful comment. Well said.
@Heather Knowles: do u have nothing else to do but pollute this comments section with puerile silli.ness ?
@Heather Knowles: In my case as a health care worker doing extra shifts. I much prefer to get my booster on my day off than just walk out and get someone to cover for me.
@Roger Bond: just reply Yes to the notification and they’ll give you a new date.
@Neil Neart: Such a mature comment. Darwinsm is alive and well it seems.
@Heather Knowles: yes but in the real world people have other appointments they can’t miss like weddings, funerals, hospital appointments, etc. you can’t just assume people will be able to make time to get the booster at the drop of a hat.
here we go again: blame blame blame.
it’s not us, it’s you.
@Neil Melly: what wud u have the hse throw a rope around people’s necks and drag them in for there boosters
@Sean Mccabe: I don’t think that’s his point. I’m no medical expert but it looks to me like the HSEs mantra is vaccinate, wanes in a few months, booster, wanes, booster, wanes booster so on so forth. you won’t get healthy individuals taking the booster as easily as the initial vaccine. I know alot of people now have the mindset, “if I get covid, I get it and I hope my body fights it”. People are just sick to the teeth of it all and mentally fatigued listening to the same thing day in day out with 20, nearly 21 months.
@Macca1986: it’s not the hse’s mantra it’s the world’s leading immunologists plans that people need boosters not only Ireland we r not on our own were not being singled out we need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and trust the experts when it comes to boosters.peoples choice to take them or not but can’t be moaning saying this and that if they refuse help that’s being offered on a plate to them.
@Macca1986: yes but what about other vulnerables they infect along the way? Hardly fair is it?
@Anna Carr: you booster the vulnerable.
@Anna Carr: you booster the very vulnerable
@Sean Mccabe: thats my point. everywhere is the same. I’m talking ireland as I live here and from here. my point still stands that alot won’t take the booster who are young, fit and healthy.
@Macca1986: there choice ultimately,history will show if they were rite
I can see why people who already have both doses could be frustrated and not show up for the booster but the current situation is what it is and people need to get on board or else another lockdown is unavoidable and nobody wants that
@Wiggit93: well said. 100% agree.
@Wiggit93: People not taking their booster need to lose their Covid cert per direct.
@Raymond Scott: Why should they. People did what they were asked they went got vaccinated. Now suddenly vaccination isn’t enough you think everyone should be forced into getting the booster. How many boosters should we be forced to get?
@Roy Dowling: As many as are necessary.
@Raymond Scott: So you’ve no idea?
@Roy Dowling: you sound like a petulant child. The government isn’t forcing you to do anything. It’s in people’s and societies interest to continue to follow the latest research. Nobody has a Covid crystal ball.
@Homes: so we’re not allowed ask questions? So say I chose not to get the booster can I still go to the cinema? Bring the wife for a meal in a restaurant? No I cant so yes the vaccine is being forced on people. Now I myself would no be eligible for a booster shot til April, and yes I’m still not decided if I want take vaccine every 6 months for the foreseeable future.
@Roy Dowling: you sound like an anti vaxxer. by the same logic an unvaccinated person is forced the vaccine… They cant bring the wife to a restaurant. Which makes no sense since when vaccinated after couple months one transmits the virus like unvaccinated person, check the Lancet. Viral load the same. So in way, that covid cert is useless from health perspective, all should be tested: vaccinated and non vaccinated. Hmm, in roundabout way, we agree ha ha
@Wiggit93: not to mention avoiding spending Christmas in ICU.
@Raymond Scott: So I’m vaccinated but I’m an anti vaxxer hmmmmm
@Roy Dowling: well, lets say you are not a hard core vaxxer
@Raymond Scott: No he fookin doesn’t. Seriously, stop with this BS. An anti-vaxxer is exactly that: anti-vaccination. Someone who’s had 2 jabs of the vax but isn’t too keen on never-ending booster shots isn’t an anti-vaxxer. FFS why are so many words so ídiotically overused these days…?
@Wiggit93: half of thread under this deleted by Journal… the great cleanse keeps giving…
Did the HSE flag certain people not wearing their masks at rugby internationals yet?
@David Van-Standen: Is your issue just with rugby or the lack of mask wearing. Because there was no mask wearing at the soccer either.
@David Van-Standen: did the HSE flag leo getting off an airplane the other day not wearing a mask and sitting looking at Riverdance not wearing his mask.
@Mark Wallace: Please try to keep up if you are going to join the discussion, my comment was in regard to a certain person in the HSE that’s always telling everyone else to wear their mask, being immortalised in a photo not doing so themselves at the rugby in an enclosed area.
Can’t we get 20 boosters to go, store them up in the freezer and self inject every 6 months for the next decade? That would save time…
Sure I could keep mine in the first-aid box with my iodine tablet. Seriously, I reckon the treatment will improve a lot as we go along & be longer lasting and easier to take. I’d say eventually there will be alternatives such as drops offered and a future dose spaced over a decade. But for now, we need to keep our immunity up. I’m too young right now but if/when I get the text I’ll be doing my utmost to get it.
A health expert on with Claire Byrne this morning was advocating for boosters for everyone every 2 months!
At some point people are going to question what they’re signing up for, particularly those who experienced side effects from the first jabs. There doesn’t seem to be any plan here anymore other than taking infinite boosters when beckoned.
And it all comes tumbling down, those people have obviously made a clear and conscious, end of, leave e them alone
There are walk in appointments in vaccination centres that HCWs can avail of, as the appointments offered to them are often across the city, mid week and midday. Many staff aren’t given leave for boosters as there is no cover. There was no option for me to cancel my scheduled appointment. is Paul aware of this
Got mine this morning
@Sean Ryan: good for you. Genuinely my vulnerable family and I thank you. Fair play.
@Sean Ryan: As did I. I’m waiting now for my sister who is 51 and vulnerable (Down’s syndrome) to get hers before I can relax. Infuriates me that she must wait while others who are offered can’t be rsade to get theirs.
@Paul Whitehead: That seems unfair in the cases of people who were booked into two different centres. They need to double-check for duplicate appointments being assigned and take out the ones who have indeed got a booster at one place.
And it all comes tumbling down, these people have obviously made a clear and conscious decision, end of, leave them alone
People are opting out. But they’ll be capitulate (as Pat Kenny says) when the same level of coercion (covid passes revoked) & vitriol applied to the ‘anti-vaxxers’ starts being thrown at them. A good chunk of those eligible are not even due their boosters until January. And considering there’s been c.215k cases just going back to August, how many of them have contracted the virus in the past 6 months making them ineligible? Is that or natural immunity being factored in by the HSE? No chance.
The game is up
People understandly fatigued with Govt lack of leadership and nphet cock ups followed by u turns (antigen) but got to get those booster shots in to arms everyone. Likely to be an annual injection for some, mix of flu jab with covid booster from now on.
@Declan: Yes we are all fatigued but same in France and Germany we’re I currently am
… Maybe you consider blaming Covid rather than Governments
I rang HSE live and asked how do the high risk who were approved for vaccines 2 days ago get the vaccine. He said unless their GP refers them into the system, they’ve no knowledge who is high risk and needs a booster. How long is that going to take for the hundreds of thousands with underlying conditions to get referred into the system?
@Caitlin Far: your GP should have automatically referred you in as most have for people with underlying conditions or who are immunocompromised . Call your GP if you’ve any concerns and he/she will register you immediately. You should be notified of an appointment within 24-48hrs.
@GrumpyAulFella: thanks. The GP told me the HSE are managing it for people with underlying conditions and they’ve no involvement. They said my underlying condition doesn’t qualify as immunocompromised because only hospital consultants can refer immunocompromised people. They said they’re not referring anyone and the only people getting referred are the immunocompromised ones referred by consultants. I have an underlying condition that’s significant but im not an immunocompromised transplant patient etc. GP sending same standard email to everyone.
That’s just awesome. Taking on board the comment about the inability to cancel, totally understandable but people just not bothering is inexcusable. Wasting vaccines that others would be happy to have.
My 78 year old mother still waiting for her booster.
This shows the effects of the booster rollout on hospitalisation rate:
https://i.imgur.com/4zAkGRR.jpg
Hospitalisation rates are falling (ratio of COVID-19 patients admitted per 1,000 infections).
The only other times hospitalisation rates fell, was when infections fell to low levels, testing capacity exceed the rate of low and falling infections. And when tests could not keep up with rising infections, the hospitalisation rate increased. There may also be an effect from the Alpha and Delta variant which tend to make more people severely sick.
But we’re now seeing the hospitalisation rate fall sharpy despite a large increase in infections, and even despite occasional backlogs in testing.
So the fall in hospitalisation rate since the end of September is best explained by increasing protection provided by the vaccine booster.
@David Jordan: informative as always. Let’s hope so. Seems like protection against serious illness should rise to 95% within two weeks of receiving the booster. Seems to be working well in Israel.
Care staff offered boosters in a pop up Centre in Wexford the other day on the same day as they were all doing compulsory in service training. If they didn’t attend the training they didn’t get paid… Sounds like lack of communication and tomfoolery to me
Are we going to need booster passports to go to pubs, cinemas etc now? People are just sick of this nonsense.
There are walk in appointments in vaccination centres that HCWs can avail of, as the appointments offered to them are often across the city, mid week and midday. Many staff aren’t given leave for boosters as there is no cover. There was no option for me to cancel my scheduled appointment. is Paul aware of this
25% – 50% what sort of percentage is that f f s.
@John Doyle: 25% is a quarter and 50% is a half.so if 200 people had an appointment and only 100 showed up that means 50% didn’t show up.not rocket science pal
@Sean Mccabe: is it not either or tho Sean? They have the figures of how many appointments were given and how many showed up. It’s not rocket science.
@John Doyle: no pal because its a live scenario it’s a broad range 25-50 % because its still ongoing.more accurate in it’s totality when it’s towards the end.
@Sean Mccabe: Give over will ya. If they have given 200,000 appointments and a 150,000 people showed up they can clearly state the 25% 0f people did not show up, If 100,000 show up they can clearly say 50% of people did not show up. You’re correct tho, it is a live ongoing situation. But up until the time he made that statement, it was an exact % of people who were no shows. He should have them figures available to him, with the salary he is on. Stop making excuses for the ridiculous broad range he gave off the top of his head, trying to look like he knows what’s going on and he is on top of things.
@John Doyle: 25% in some centres, 26% in others etcetcetc
@John Doyle: we agree there is wiggle room on those figures he’s probably trying to put a bit of a positive spin knowing the figure is 50% maybe higher who feckin knows
@John Doyle: Oh come on John, read the 1st paragraph again, he said some vaccination centres, so one centre might have a 25% no show and another at the other side of the city could be at 40% no show. It’s not too hard to understand.
@Sean Mccabe: There’s that. I know I stopped following him on Twitter when he started posting the percentage of adults fully vaccinated but passed it off as a percentage of our entire population. A positive spin is grand for a radio DJ. The CEO should be able to get exact figures – there are enough bluffing as it is.
I got an appointment but was unable to attend. I called the number in the text message to reschedule and after 3.5 minutes of press 1, press 2 etc I was told a new a new appointment would follow automatically and to just not show up for my current appointment. No way to actually cancel it. Did not get another appointment and everytime I call I go through the automated section and wait on hold for ages only to hear that the service is currently not available. Very frustrating.
I can see why people who have got both jabs would be frustrated and choose not to show up for their booster jabs but the situation is what it is and if people don’t get on board another lockdown will be unavoidable and nobody wants that
A lot of those no shows are folks who have contracted Covid between the time of receiving their 2nd jab and scheduled for the booster….you can’t receive the booster until your 6 months clear of covid…
I will have one when the side effects from the first one are gone.
@Concepta Farrell: so u have side effects but r willing to get another one ,what side effects did ya get
@Sean Mccabe: Looks like the Selina Kyle effect… here, kitty, kitty!
@Dave:
I had my booster at a mass vaccination Centre and there was 1000s there. Its great to see. However, they are turning away people in droves who don’t have an appointment or those who have not passed the 6 months since full vaccination. I was talking to a steward who said a fake WhatsApp is going around saying to present yourself with or without an appointment or without having passed 6 months and you will be done. Supposedly supply will be spoiled if they don’t get rid of it. People will honestly believe anything….
Also people who have had covid cannot have booster for 6 months
Not true – a lot of healthcare staff who got their initial vaccine doses moved to different hospitals around the country in July, i.e. being called for your booster dose at Wexford Hospital when you have been working in Letterkenny Hospital since July.
Kind of explains why most booster doses have been ‘walk-ins’ as opposed to by appointment
I would happily sit outside a centre hoping to pop in for a no-show spot. With a book and a brollie I would be content to wait!
Blame The HSE For Everything I’m Sure ther is A phone number You can Call
HCW who have or will be receiving their boosters at their place of work should just reply NEW if they receive a text from the HSE to go to a Vaccination clinic, by the time they go to give you a new appointment you will be registered on their system as already having had the booster shot. But there should be an option to cancel.
Am frantically waiting for a call for booster. Can’t get through to surgery. My husband got his with his surgery
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