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Andrew Matthews

Help-to-buy scheme has cost more than originally anticipated

Originally the scheme was estimated to cost the Exchequer €50m.

THE GOVERNMENT’S HELP-to-Buy Scheme for first-time buyers of new properties has cost more than previously anticipated.

The scheme, which was first introduced in last year’s budget, provides first-time buyers a grant of up to €20,000.

When introduced in Budget 2017, there were concerns about how much the scheme would cost in total.

The original estimate by the then Finance Minister Michael Noonan was that the plan would cost €50 million.

Answering a parliamentary question on the issue earlier this year, Noonan said the total estimated cost of claims to the Exchequer had cost €20.3 million. A total of €10.1 million represents retrospective claims which were made between period 19 July to 31 December 2016.

Given that the estimated cost for claims approved under the incentive for the first five months of 2017 came to €10.2 million, Noonan, at the time, estimated the cost of the plan to come in on budget.

However, there was speculation the grant would be scrapped in the last Budget due to Housing Minister Eoghan Murphy acknowledging that the controversial incentive was under review.

During the summer, there was a frenzied demand for the grant over fears the scheme was to be wound down in October.

However, the minister chose to continue with the grant scheme in Budget 2018.

As of November this year, the scheme has cost an additional €5.5 million.

The scheme has received over 11,000 applications to date.

Critics of the scheme said it is pushing up house prices rather than encouraging building.

Statistics in respect of the Help-to-Buy scheme, provided to TheJournal.ie by the Revenue Commissioners, show that as of November 11,367 applications were received from one or more applicants.

Over 4,487 claims have been made and 3,882 claims have been approved.

There are two stages involved in the Help-to-Buy process.

The initial application (Stage 1), where applicants provide proof of their mortgage, and Stage 2, the claims stage, where more details and documentary evidence of mortgage drawdown is needed.

However, it is possible that many of the initial applicants may never make a claim to Stage 2 for a variety of reasons.

These could include individuals who do not go on to obtain mortgage approval, who may decide to purchase a second-hand property, or who are not able to source the new home that they desire.

Fianna Fáil’s Housing spokesperson Barry Cowen has been critical of the scheme in the past, stating that the Help-to-Buy scheme has not worked as it was supposed to and stating that the government is not doing enough to assist social housing.

Last month, The Times Ireland Edition reported that the Housing Agency, which advises the government on policy, warned the Department of Housing that the introduction of the HTB scheme would be unwise as it was believed it would increase the asking price for properties.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:06 AM

    I would be against selling the land to pay for bad management practices and day to day running. I agree with public service broadcasting but Rte needs a complete overhaul and if they sell the land to pay for running costs in one year then it’s gone and they’ll be back with the begging bowl next year

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    Mute and the hit's just keep coming
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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:55 AM

    @The next small thing: tv 3/vergin are in an industrial estate and it doesn’t seem to cause any problems….sell Montrose and move it to one of the many vacant industrial parks around the country

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    Mute John Terry
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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:56 PM

    @and the hit’s just keep coming: You are missing his point.Sell it ,yes.But sell for the right reasons….not just to continue and be back to square one.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 1:59 PM

    @The next small thing: If Ryan comes back, they’ll need the money to pay him. His dole money will soon be running out and he will be applying for a job

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    Sep 13th 2023, 4:56 PM

    @The next small thing: The land would most likely end up being sold at less than book value as often happens with state assets, with massive consultancy fees to boot. And then the purchase or rental of a new premises which would require only the best of new fittings.
    The whole thing would more than likely be a loss spinner in the end, with tax payer getting shafted again. There is no accountability at all in state or semi state bodies.

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    Mute Colm Molloy
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    Sep 13th 2023, 8:03 PM

    @The next small thing:
    From a non begeudgery point of view this is bang on.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:16 AM

    Yes, and while they’re at it, stop trying to be an entertainment channel, stop buying programs that we can see elsewhere and get rid of the overpaid self-employed “stars”. Stick with news, current affairs, Irish sports and regional programs.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:41 AM

    @John Smith:
    The problem being some of those bought in programmes are the most popular.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:20 PM

    @P.J. Nolan: True, but I don’t think a public service broadcaster should be chasing ratings.
    The Cambridge dictionary definition of a public service broadcaster is “television and radio programmes that are broadcast to provide information, advice, or entertainment to the public without trying to make a profit”
    At least they got the last part right.

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    Mute John Brennan
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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:37 PM

    @John Smith: LOL.

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    Mute Donal McCarthy
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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:42 PM

    @John Smith: A lot of the stuff you are suggesting they stop doing is revenue positive.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:32 AM

    It should be shut down with immediate effect.

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    Mute Oisin CK
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    Sep 13th 2023, 1:23 PM

    @Dave Grant: absolutely not, public service broadcasting is essential in any democracy

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    Sep 13th 2023, 1:50 PM

    @Oisin CK: RTE are nothing more than a government mouth piece , nothing of public service in any way shape nor form.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:09 AM

    Move the lot to Galway or cork, they will probably drive everyday and claim milage even those without driving license. Place is a disaster, selling up won’t make a difference, just pushing the can down the road. Typical civil service response really.

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    Mute Chris O'Brien
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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:24 AM

    No. It’ll cost taxpayers more, not less.

    The land isn’t the thing causing the problems, but the people on the land.

    If they move, different land, same people. What then, sell that new land?

    I guess anything to avoid hiring honest, compent people though, yes?

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    Sep 13th 2023, 2:02 PM

    @Chris O’Brien: Alas, competent people get paid more than the low balling Irish people will ever offer.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:02 AM

    It should be put into liquidation and rebuilt after.

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    Mute Dominic Leleu
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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:39 AM

    No more unfair tax like the TV license. If they can’t make it, liquidate

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:36 AM

    Better still sell off RTE!

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:30 AM

    Sell and move to the Northside.m
    Build social housing on the land..

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    Sep 13th 2023, 1:03 PM

    @Peter McCormack: ah yeah….build a load of free gaffs in Donnybrook d4 and get maybe a couple of hundred back in rent a year.I’d rather it was turned into a park instead.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 1:20 PM

    @John Terry: John showing once again he hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about, how’s the council house you, your parents and your grand parents lived in?

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    Sep 13th 2023, 3:24 PM

    @Martin Mongan: Never lived in a council estate,and neither did any of my family.We are able to work and provide for our families without handouts.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 3:25 PM

    @Martin Mongan: And I’d say from your name you belong to a certain culture that gets everything for free.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 5:23 PM

    @Peter McCormack: what do you mean move RTE to the Northside? Like the ‘cheap’ areas like Sutton, Clontarf, Glasnevin or Howth? If you’re looking for cheaper areas, you’ve plenty to choose from on the Southside, like Dolphin’s Barn and Ballyfermot.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 8:14 PM

    @Lilly Lalogue: exactly lily,anyone that knows Dublin knows it’s an east west divide.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:12 PM

    bad idea.Would be sold to some TD’s buddy or relative for pennies and that same buddy would probably build the new studios for the same cost as the new children’s hospital.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 1:19 PM

    It should be taken from them . Rte should not get another penny of our money .
    They insisted on showing the British royal coronation even though it was covered on BBC Ch4 utv, They show ( at great expense) British soaps that are available elsewhere. RTE use the same guest pool for all programmes and most are affiliated with RTE .
    TH4 Should become the state broadcaster and not westbrit RYE

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    Sep 13th 2023, 3:28 PM

    @barry lyons: Go back to the Stone Age.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:20 PM

    RTÉ overstaffed, look at how many it takes to present a football match. Two commentators three pundits and a presenter to start with along with a technical team. That’s only the tip of the iceberg.
    Shut it down, sell the land and give cash to Virgin.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:46 AM

    Close the place down

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:57 AM

    Kinda like selling the spare tyre to buy petrol at the moment.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:17 AM

    I’m not so sure it makes sense. They will then have to relocate and the start up costs of relocating such an organization would be huge. They could possibly move to Troy studios in Limerick as it is empty but there is a huge amount of work to be done to make it broadcast ready. It doesn’t really make much sense moving just the admin section away because you don’t really gain anything to sell , a lot of admin is in the same building as studios.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:17 PM

    They should develop it themselves. A nice cross section of houses & apartments. Don’t sell them but rent them out & use the profits to fund themselves.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 3:48 PM

    @JohnMc: The first sensible comment.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:13 AM

    Not sure how much land it own but it almost 9 cares were sold to Cairn Homes for more than €100 million a few years ago. I guess they will sell off more.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:18 AM

    @Tom Dillon: €107 million to be precise.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 3:10 PM

    @Tony Peacock: Phew. Glad you cleared that up!

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:16 AM

    It cost over 50 million to build the lookout tower at Dublin aerport. At irish prices it would cost 200 million to relocate rté. It would be hard to get planning for a broadcasting mast these days.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 1:04 PM

    Not the answer. Slim down the organisation. Fund RTE 1 & RADIO 1 From the Exchequer as public service broadcasters, News , Documtries, Sport etc and home produced drama. Cut RTE 2 , 2FM etc adrift to sink or swim in the commercial market.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:46 AM

    If the government is trying to solve rte problems the shud sell the lot it has gone past saving

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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:01 PM

    Sell it and build social houses on it

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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:46 PM

    They can broadcast from TIMBUKTU for all I care as Long as Subscription is brought in.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 11:03 AM

    Is the Pope Catholic.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:40 PM

    They should move to Connemara. Worked for TG4

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    Sep 13th 2023, 3:28 PM

    @Martin Holmes: Then people like you would moan at the cost of transportation and the like.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 9:13 PM

    @John Terry: why would i moan about a suggestion i made? Got rejected by a women over west once did ya?

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    Mute Greg Dalton
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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:40 PM

    They need to employ better presenters, better producers, better programming!
    Why sell and move, which will probably cost us tax payers billions? Simply, get rid of the pen pushers and recruit private sector employees!
    I know of one person who was asked to slow down her work rate as she was making others look bad!

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    Sep 13th 2023, 1:03 PM

    Sell up, fill it with modular homes for people and move down the country to Mullingar.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 12:44 PM

    No way. Area is too nice for social housing.

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    Mute Susan O'Neill
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    Sep 13th 2023, 5:19 PM

    People RTE are paying a photographer 80k a year to take 16 photos a week of the set of Fair City…

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    Sep 13th 2023, 3:33 PM

    The money isn’t in what they produce …

    Just like McDonald’s aren’t in the burger business they are in the property business .. don’t sell it.. maximise the return on it!

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    Sep 13th 2023, 2:33 PM

    As long as they build homes for the Irish and nor turn into refugee camps. Also part of the deal is that they scrap the TV licence so we don’t have to look at the muppets such and company and scrap fair city pounces with the the stars nationwide primetime irelands fittest family this and rebuy back the national lottery and stop the money going to a canaindian pension fund. Also have pride and get back Aer Lingus as we have no national airline.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 5:21 PM

    It would be good perhaps to move to Cork or Galway perhaps? Spread the corruption.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 5:37 PM

    Close it down. Jun

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    Sep 14th 2023, 1:58 AM

    RTE should be shut down for good.

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    Mute Sean Sean
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    Sep 13th 2023, 5:07 PM

    Move it to Dundalk as close as possible to the border so it can represent the whole of Ireland.( I support public broadcasting and have just paid my licence fee)

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    Mute Richard Barrett
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    Sep 13th 2023, 8:14 PM

    No they should not. Montrose is the perfect and time-honoured place for national broadcasting studios. It is a handy location for interviewees, studio audiences and employees. Moving RTE to somewhere like Blanchardstown would be a disaster.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 6:12 PM

    Surely closing the current site and moving elsewhere would cost a bomb and the juicy price tag would balloon lovely increased wages for the usual suspects. It should shrink its current site (sell parts of) and focus on what it’s meant to do. And do some oul’ wage cuts in the process. Cap wages and have better budgeting and planning and external folks (auditors) making sure they keep within their means. A decent reduction in the license fee would be a kindness to the nation considering this recent farce! Just my opinion.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 10:48 PM

    Sell the kip

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    Sep 14th 2023, 3:17 AM

    Sell all the land and then pack up and feck off to the moon

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    Sep 13th 2023, 4:51 PM

    The grounds were already decimated several years ago when a sizeable chunk was sold off to developers.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 5:01 PM

    @Peter: For the quality they provide you could be forgiven for thinking the whole thing was running from the Cork site already.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 5:47 PM

    Sell the top talent it would raise many billions

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    Mute John Ledwidge
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    Sep 16th 2023, 2:18 PM

    Force feeding the people with RTÉ and RTÉ taxes….And threats of lawful but unfair and degrading individual public humiliation is not worthy of Ireland in 2023! It is contemptuous!

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    Sep 14th 2023, 11:39 AM

    A.I it.

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    Sep 13th 2023, 7:33 PM

    It’s like selling your good kidney when the other one is in bad Knick. Madness

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