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Harassment, no holidays and low pay: Readers share their hospitality work horror stories

Today we publish a number of accounts we received from exploited workers.

EARLIER THIS WEEK, TheJournal.ie ran an investigative piece which looked at the hospitality industry and the apparent abuses within it in the west of the country.

While the piece referred, mainly, to cases which occurred in the Mayo and Galway, we have received a large number of emails from people who are currently working in the sector nationwide.

Tales of widespread abuse which featured in this week’s piece were echoed in the emails we received by those working in the industry.

Here we publish some of the complaints of workers. Name changes have been marked with an asterisk.

Sinéad, 20, Chef

This epidemic is rife in the whole of Ireland. I’m currently 20 and I’ve been in the hospitality sector for about three years as a chef. I’ve never been employed in a place that doesn’t breach employee rights. The first hotel I worked in would pay you for 39 hours a week, so if you worked over that amount of time the rest would go into lieu. Sounds fine, but when you worked 12-hour days, two hours were taken off you for a ‘break’ you never got.

Then you decide to take some of those lieu hours for a holiday. The hotel in question would book you off for seven days. That’s seven days taken out of your holiday time but you would only be paid for a week’s work which was five days of eight-hours. However they deduct 56 hours in total.

Also being a woman chef in a predominantly male kitchen there were a few incidents with sexual harassment which were sorted very quickly, however this was not the first offence of the individual. Fast forward to my current employment. You work 13-hours a day and don’t get any breaks whatsoever but you are still being deducted an hour from your salary plus the condition of not being paid Sunday rates.

I barely get to eat food because it’s so busy. The holiday situation is ridiculous in our contract; you either take them or lose them.

A change needs to be made but a lot of people in this sector are too afraid to speak out in fear of losing their jobs or getting their hours cut to the point of the job not actually being worth the petrol it takes to get there.

Rachel, 19, Waiting Staff

I’ve worked in the hospitality sector for about three-and-a-half years now on and off. I’m a student so it was the easiest way to make money. I’ve found that wherever I go, I suffered abuses. I  worked in a café for those first two years and for the first year or so, we didn’t get breaks if it was busy.

We were understaffed so on busy days like Saturdays or Sundays, we’d work from 9-5 and not get a break. What was worse was that our pay would be deducted for the breaks that we didn’t get. Also if the till was ever under, we had to supplement it with our tips.

I’ve also worked for recruitment companies who send “cater waiters” to places that need extra staff for a particularly big event. Before Christmas, I worked a 12 hour shift in a well-known Dublin hotel and was given one 20 minute break in that period. I was deducted 30 mins pay for that break. The worst thing is that they feel they can do it to you because you don’t actually work for the company, you’re just there for a day or two at the most. It’s happened to me countless times but you put up with it because you need money.

Abuse is rife throughout the sector and I’m glad that someone is taking a stand on it.

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Amalia, 28, Waiting Staff*

Sometime in the past, I was living in Ireland on a student visa and I worked in a pub as a waiting staff for a couple of years. My student visa allowed me to work part-time during school term and full-time during school holidays.

The manager was a terrible person to work with. He shouted at you for no reason, would not provide payslips, weekly wages were always delayed and strangely enough, it was only the non-Irish staff wages that were usually delayed. They would put me to work alone on a busy day to serve all the tables, around 25/30 and yet complain why I could not be “faster”.

I was supposed to be on a €9.35 an hour, but checking some of my wages, they would pay me only the minimum at times. There was no previous agreement of any kind and when I asked the owner, he said it was probably for taxes and no payslips to prove it.
At the time, we would share tips among all the staff, but we had no control over/access to it and from time to time, management and barmen would take money from our tip box without telling anyone and we would only see some of this money maybe every six weeks or more.

I always had a good relationship with the owner and all the other staff, but I can’t forget how unfair they were to me and other non-EU workers.

Maciek, 32, Night Porter

I’m 32 years old and Polish and I work in hospitality for 10 years. During that time, I did Honours Degree in Ireland. In hospitality, I was working in various roles from reception through bar, restaurant and conference and banqueting. During that time, as you might suspect, I came across many situations that I could describe as bullying or slave work conditions. I’ll give you short brief from the ones I remember:

As a Night Receptionist I was enforced to sell alcohol after normal serving hours to, look out: Non-residents of the hotel (often drunk and aggressive), in the same place I was expected to be receptionist, porter, cleaner, cook and security. All of them at the same time! Working on my own in a hotel with over 100 bedrooms (up to 200 people in the house). For seven years working in the same place I got no pay rise.

I am unemployed at the moment because I got to the stage where I am on anti-depressive medication and I see no motivation to work since I am being treated as slave. I am seriously considering to stay on social welfare office for a very long time since my work (and I am very good at my work) is totally underappreciated. Not to mention that I am disrespected  for my work in almost every single hospitality employment I had, often being told that if I won’t obey,  I will lose hours.

Diarmuid, mid 20s, Other employment

I have just read your interesting article this morning on the above topic and felt I should share my experience and overall view as a previous employee of the hospitality industry in Ireland. I have a qualification in Hotel and Catering Management (BA Hons degree) from Galway Mayo Institute of Technology, along with an M.Sc in Tourism Management, which may help in the credibility of my experience and opinion.

To keep things as short as possible, I just want to explain my reason for not working in the hospitality industry today, despite having studied it for 4/5 years in college. When I graduated from GMIT with my honours degree, I started working as a Duty Manager in a hotel  and when I worked out my wage per hour (€17,000 pa) based on the number of hours I worked on average per week, I was being paid well below the minimum wage per-hour that the rest of my colleagues were being paid who had no qualifications at all. This certainly did not encourage me to look forward to a long and rewarding career in the industry, after studying hard for four years to get my degree, and push for an honours degree.

I feel the hospitality industry organisations and associations have not supported the industry’s employees in the same way as other industry employees have been supported and represented by their leader organisations. I believe an investigation into the ability of the industry to retain its employees once they have qualified from college would reveal very disappointing findings and that industry comparable leadership supports for its employees  would be very poor, hence the large number of people leaving the industry relatively soon after graduation from college.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 6:40 AM

    Good. More competition, more choice = better savings for those who have a mortgage and those who are seeking one

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    Dec 15th 2018, 12:23 PM

    @Nowa Huta: How about they open up the mortgage market so we can get mortgages from other EU countries (which offer rates around the 0.5% mark). Single market my a$$

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    Dec 15th 2018, 1:05 PM

    @Brian Henoll:
    What is stopping banks from other EU countries coming here?

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:05 AM

    There’s absolutely no reason why the post office should.go into high street banking while the high street owes us 60 billion. The credit union in my town tried to move into mainstreet banking (they literally moved to main street at the hight of the crises) and got caught for hundreds of thousands in loans while they were pretending to be bankers. The upshot is that you can’t get a small loan from them anymore. I repeat myself. The actual main street bankers owe us 60 billion. We need it back.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:34 AM

    @Louis Jacob:

    Many of those high street banks are struggling to stay afloat in an increasingly competitive environment, with their bloated cost base, and some with massive exposure still in UK market and uncertainties of Brexit, plus other disruptive challenges coming down the track, for example Cryptocurrency innovation.

    Our State still owns large chunks of equity in some HSBs which they’re hoping to sell off ASAP and recover some of that €60 bn you refer to.

    Expanding services offered by fine state-owned network of Post Offices, particularly mortgages, might offer only chance of recovery of some more over long-term.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:43 AM

    @Rory J Leonard: My local post office is stocked with O Driscolls and Mccarthys. Very few degrees there, maybe a few arts degrees. They should not be allowed near finances. Yera if you’re into that kind of thing you might be alright. Maybe the gardi could involed. The credit union in my town got involved in some dark forces.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:52 AM

    @Louis Jacob: I hate to harp on but if you need a grand in my town now you go to a money lender who charges you 36%. All the while the eejits who work in the credit union walk around town in designer clothes

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:08 AM

    @Louis Jacob: the credit Union is a different kettle of fish. That was, in part, a stitch up by McCreavy and co. The banking sector did not like that CU held up so much of cash floating around in a friendly society set up. (They hate, for example,that in Quebec banks are sidelined CUs, as people their won’t use banks for day to day stuff). So they began a process of dragging them into their banking world. This included changing products on offer, including mortgages and commercial loans. Also dragging them into credit bureau rules. Anything to put a partition between CU and their local base. The upshot was CU money and the now increased CU debt became part of their rotten system.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:20 AM

    @Greg Blake: So (and I’m really not being adversarial) what is the good in dragging the PO away from their base? People depend on them for a certain service. Aso sure as shot power corrupts.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 11:13 AM

    @Louis Jacob: power certainly corrupts, as we have seen in the banks

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    Dec 15th 2018, 2:45 PM

    @Louis Jacob: watch the price of a stamp jump to 1.50 to shore up losses when bust hits

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    Dec 15th 2018, 2:46 PM

    @Louis Jacob: watch the price of a stamp jump to 1.50 to shore up losses when bust hitsr

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    Dec 15th 2018, 5:22 PM

    @Quentin Moriarty: 1.50…not quite in the same league as the bank bail out.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:44 AM

    Can’t say I’ve any more faith in An Post management than I do in any other semi State.

    Irish borrowers won’t enjoy Continental interest rates until they have Continental style “Lose your house if you don’t pay your mortgage rules”

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:34 AM

    @Goban Saor: their screwing their staff pension rights their a filthy company a complete sham I’d have nothing to do with them sher their phone network is another complete scam if your unfortunate enough to sign up for that with hidden charges.

    Also I can send a parcel anywhere in Ireland with the local postal store up to a huge 30 kilos I think it is for €12 Euros and the post office would be about triple that probably even more.

    The postal store I’m on about actually have the tender for delivering the An Post mail through Ireland. It just goes to show how scammy they are the top boys must be milking it good ohh. How can the Postal Store make a profit on a 12 Euro parcel anywhere in Ireland and in An Post it would be triple the price or more work than one out?

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    Dec 15th 2018, 6:49 AM

    I’m gonna be honest here. My life has been destroyed ( and I mean destroyed) by creditors. It’s the the reason I can’t sleep. Remind me. What would be the benefit in this?

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:45 AM

    @Louis Jacob: Everybody is a slave when you owe money. The only thing you should borrow for is a home and no more than 15 year mortgage.

    Save for things you need. Don’t buy new cars unless you have it in cash or are genuinely loaded.

    Most people who have debt are in denial that they are broke. If you owe money folks you are broke.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:49 AM

    @Louis Jacob: don’t know what benefits are in it for you Louis, or for me, I won’t be signing into any mortgages in future. But, I think more choice can only help young couples going that way. Also if it helps to keep an post alive, that’s a good thing, with all this faceless banking taking hold.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 7:55 AM

    @Greg Blake: The post office is good as it is. Every time these guys try to move up they leave a vacute behind.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:00 AM

    @Louis Jacob: The post office is good as it is. Every time these guys try to move up they leave a vacume behind.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 11:24 PM

    @Niallers: you’re absolutely right, doesn’t matter what you earn, just spend less that what you earn and save some and you won’t have money worries. Most of the stuff people borrow for is stuff they should save up for instead – cars, furniture, tv’s, holidays, Christmas, we need to cop on and keep on to our hard-earned money instead of trying to keep up with the Jones.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:45 AM

    This reads as a very naive article. So An Post is seeking a partner with whom it will enter the mortgage market and sets out its requirements of such a partner…. yet, what does An Post bring to the partnership:

    1)Mortgage lending experience – Nil
    2)Suitably experienced staff – unlikely
    3)Suitable Business Premises – No
    4)Funding capability – weak. If you had a billion would you lend it to a start up mortgage lender with no experience?!

    So An Post itself is anything but an attractive mortgage lending partner.

    I would point out that there are several mortgage operators open for business. It’s not easy to get a mortgage, nor should it be. Central Bank rules also constrain lenders. Based on our boom bust experienced heightened regulation is for the better.

    An Post? No thank you!

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:54 AM

    @Niall: Correct. It would be a friends only service

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    Dec 15th 2018, 9:35 AM

    @Louis Jacob: One article in the Journal and you both have the business model sorted?

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    Dec 15th 2018, 10:57 AM

    @Niall: You must work for a bank and are afraid of the completion, maybe they might actually offer proper interest rates and you will lose customers hand over fist lol.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 9:31 AM

    A sure way to know a recession is coming is when everyone wants a slice of the ponzi scheme.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:08 AM

    You will witness the collapse of An Post who are now drunk on their profits and success .
    Crazy idea

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:22 AM

    @Quentin Moriarty: Amen. You can use the credit union as proof.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 9:32 AM

    @Louis Jacob: Or the banks as we have seen.

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    Dec 15th 2018, 8:22 AM

    They see opportunity to make money because we are at our peak again. It’ll be hard for them to get a steady foot on a sinking ship.

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