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Leah Farrell

NPHET modelling 'didn't account for AstraZeneca and Janssen vaccines being made available to all age groups'

NPHET has recommended that only vaccinated people should be allowed to dine indoors or enjoy any indoor activity.

LAST UPDATE | 30 Jun 2021

CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER Tony Holohan has confirmed to opposition parties that the modelling provided to government did not account for NIAC’s latest vaccine policy change which allows for both the AstraZeneca and Janssen vaccines to be made available for all age groups. 

The quicker roll out of vaccines would result in the modelling being less pessimistic, TDs were told. 

Politicians at the briefing said such an omission would make a “huge” difference to the scenarios presented to the government. 

In addition, it is understood that the Taoiseach categorically told Cabinet that the modelling reflected the changes from NIAC. 

Tourism Minister Catherine Martin is understood to have specifically put the question to the Taoiseach at Tuesday’s meeting, where she stressed how important it would be that the modelling reflected the changes.

The Taoiseach is understood to have reassured her and other Cabinet colleagues that the changes were included in the models.

Senior sources have now raised serious concerns about the Cabinet making a decision “based on wrong information”. 

At today’s meeting with Opposition TDs, it is understood they were told that National Public Health Emergency Team (NPHET) would have recommended indoor dining stay closed until the “end of September or beyond” if they did not put forward the vaccine pass proposal. 

TDs at the briefing said Holohan is still not in favour of antigen testing or PCR testing being used to gain entrance to indoor dining or indoor activities, despite other EU countries that operate such ‘corona passes’ accepting them.

The CMO “struggled” to explain the rationale as to why unvaccinated young people can work in a pub or restaurant but can’t dine or enjoy a pint indoors, according to sources. 

He is also understood to have accepted that NPHET’s modelling could be peer reviewed, however, no details were provided about how this might be done.

It was also put forward to TDs that NPHET believe such a pass system could be put in place for hospitality due to government already having completed work on the new Digital Green Cert for international travel. 

In relation to what was said at Cabinet, a government spokesperson said that “as a practice we do not comment on Cabinet discussions, nor are we allowed to.”

However, there was a comprehensive memo by the Taoiseach’s department and a copy of the CMO’s letter to the Health Minister was circulated to each member of Cabinet. The memo and the letter was the basis for the decision.

With blame being shifted between parties as to who should have mentioned or asked about whether the latest vaccine advice was included in the modelling, it is understood that Page five of the CMO’s letter itself states:

“The vaccination programme is included in the model according to the latest available estimates of vaccine supply and administration, and published estimates of vaccine effectiveness in preventing infection and severe disease.”

It’s also understood that NPHET made a full presentation to the full Covid sub-committee on Monday night, where eight cabinet members were present. The presentation took place after news had broken that NIAC advice had changed.

Dáil

Speaking in the Dáil today, the Taoiseach said other measures such as antigen testing and ventilation will be looked at by government in a bid to get indoor hospitality reopened. 

Speaking during Leaders’ Questions, Micheál Martin said the threshold set by NPHET for the hospitality sector is “a very high one”.

NPHET has recommended that only vaccinated people should be allowed to dine indoors or enjoy any indoor activity.

The  Taoiseach agreed with members of the Opposition today, telling the Dáil “we do have to look at other measures in terms of hospitality including testing and ventilation”.

Ireland is one of the only countries in Europe without indoor dining. In countries that do have a pass system in place for hospitality, vaccination is not the only entry requirement. 

A negative Covid test (such as an antigen test), proof of vaccination or past infection are the three measures used in such countries. 

Government has accepted a report that recommends its rollout in businesses, schools and by the public. 

Those in government circles have said that protection measures, such as antigen testing, work in other countries, saying “being prescriptive is these situations does not work in the real world”.

A second source said including antigen testing being one of the ways people can enter into a pub or restaurant would not go down well with Holohan, but that government can deviate from NPHET advice.

They pointed out that government is deviating from NPHET advice when it comes to international travel and it can do so again on antigen testing. 

Restaurants discussion

The Taoiseach, Tánaiste Leo Varadkar and Ministers Catherine Martin and Stephen Donnelly today met with members of the hospitality sector to discuss the proposals.

The Restaurants Association of Ireland said there was a “full and frank discussion” at the hospitality forum this afternoon.

“The anger and frustration of the sector at no plan and no date was communicated. A working group has now been established and will begin work on a plan to get restaurants, cafes and gastropubs open for indoor dining as soon as possible. 

“The Restaurants Association of Ireland will engage with the Working Group on a plan to get indoor dining reopened and to save the remainder of the summer for restaurants, cafes and gastropubs. 

“A fair and workable solution needs to be devised to ensure that there is a final plan announced for reopening restaurants, cafes and gastropubs on 19th July,” said the RAI.

A government spokesperson said ministers reiterated the urgency of the situation and their intention to use the next three weeks to develop a pathway forward.

They highlighted three things which would be done over this period, which include the acceleration of the vaccine programme, administering vaccines such as Janssen and AstraZeneca to all age groups that want it, as well as carefully scrutinising the progression of the Delta variant, here and elsewhere.

The spokesperson said an implementation plan would be ready by 19 July.

Unvaccinated population

Speaking in the Dáil today, the Taoiseach said Scotland’s First Minister Nicola Sturgeon warned him that the Delta variant will “rip through an unvaccinated population”.

Similar to Ireland, scientists have given stark warnings to Scotland in relation to the variant. 

However, yesterday, Scotland’s Health Secretary Humza Yousaf said no further restrictions are planned despite the surge in Covid cases.

Yousaf told the BBC he did not believe cases would reach 100,000 per week – a prediction modelled by scientists in a worst-case scenario. Scottish government scientists believe the 100,000 cases per week figure could be reached by mid-July.

The Taoiseach said today that the government would be monitoring what happens in other jurisdictions, such as Scotland.

He said his only aim is to “protect people not to divide them”. 

Martin added that he knows how difficult the  pandemic has been for young people, in particular, but said it was the “right thing” to do to pause and delay in light of NPHET’s advice.

The Taoiseach was criticised by Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald today, who said she had seen chaos within government over the last year, but yesterday “was a new peak”.

She accused him of marching the hospitality sector to the top of the hill, only to march them back down again. 

McDonald said zero consideration had been given to young people.

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    The Irish Proclamation basically says ”Ireland for the Irish”,,, the politicians of today would do well to remember that,,,

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    @Finian McG: you may interpret it that way if you want but a hundred years on that thinking just won’t wash…

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    @David Cotter: Well they died to get people OUT of Ireland,,,certianly NOT to bring a load of them in!!!

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    @Finian McG: yet hundreds of thousands of Irish went to England after that war because Ireland was a basket case…..what an embarrassment that was….

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    @Finian McG: They are long dead, what they thought is irrelevant! It’s now we live and folks would do well to remember that and try to get to grips with the now instead of trying to reflect the past!

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    @David Cotter: For them maybe, they are dead and gone, it’s therefore no longer an embarrassment as you mistakenly think but a practical necessity which generally considerably outweighs embarrassment tbf.

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    Some difference between the leaders of 1916,and the modern day politicians. Worlds apart

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    @Jb Walshe: Could you list the differences for the crowd? Doubt it ngl!

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    @Jb Walshe: The leaders of 16 knew they were involved in a fools errand.

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    Padraig Pearce and all the men and women who fought for our countries freedom would turn in their graves if the saw what’s happening today.

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    @John doe: that man along with de Valera made sure we were beaten with an iron fist, unfortunately we have FF still

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    And the state of the country now

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    @Fintan Pox: Class country. Pearse and co. world new so proud. We have made huge strides in the past 100yrs. But you have a moan to keep yourself happy.

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    @Fintan Pox: Easter Eggs and complaining on The Journal. You must have had a great day?

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    @Fintan Pox: compared to mass poverty, tenement houses, Magdalene laundries etc??

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    @Pat Hazzard: And the brits and loyalists were just victims and innocent too….I do love when people try to rewrite history, the RA were no angels, but given who they were fighting, both sides were as bad as each other, but the shinners living rent free in your head seems to forget that part

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    @Tom Newell: ‘who they were fighting’ they planted bombs, executed ‘off duty’ security forces, engaged in sectarian murder along the border farms, shot into churches, work vans, hotels. ‘Fighting’ catch yourself on. They were sectarian murdering thugs. Nothing more.

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    @Paul Kavanagh: all they’re worried about is when their next pat on the head from the EU or woke NGOs is coming.
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    “The 1916 proclamation was read out in full by Captain Paul Murphy, who learned it off by heart”. Well, why did he need to read it out, then?

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    @Max: maybe he was dyslexic…..

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    The patriots of 1916 would be very angry at the INEQUALITY shown by our politicans to the citizens of Ireland. After the next general election 11 people will be gifted a job as a Senator. Millions of Irish citizens DO NOT GET A VOTE with regards to choosing members of the Senate. And the politicans wonder why the people are angry. Enda Kenny picked a friend of his who was and still lives in AMERICA.

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    @rory Mcgovern: we had a vote to abolish the seanad , people voted against it

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    Considering there are irish people of all 360 degrees of whatever all over the planet and yet a few frightened little right wing manboys, think this island is overcrowded because of a few migrants

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    @Robert Halvey: not overcrowded if that’s the way you want to put it, just homelessness increasing regardless of were you’re from but sure let’s increase homelessness some more and sit wondering why.

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    The Seanad was supposed to have been reformed. It has NOT BEEN. AMAZING and SAD what the population accepts. Mickey d has spent too long in the Arus if he thinks that the values of 1916 proclamation still true today..He will be shocked next year when he has to start spending his own money.

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    @rory Mcgovern: I doubt it. The little faux-socialist, naval gazer will be on a fine fat pension. Can’t wait to see the back of him and his token wife.

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    Apr 1st 2024, 11:42 AM

    Flags and borders will be the last remnants of a bygone age. Money, wealth, power, all badly handled be the simple human mind. Still we don’t fix the problems that affect us on a daily basis or consider the vastness of the universe and how to access it… lads are
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    The men who fought for that would be rolling in their graves. We have had the country 108 years and are giving it away to non nationals and Muslims and Islam’s. Ridiculous and heart breaking

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