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A map from the Providence Resources website showing the various oil and gas prospects it is examining off Irish waters. Providence Resources

How much is the Barryroe oil find actually worth to us?

The Barryroe well, 50km south of Cork, is Ireland’s first commercially viable oil well. But what can Ireland get out of it?

WITH THE ECONOMY returning to recession this week, having shrank in two consecutive quarters, and with the continued disruptions to a deal on the Anglo promissory notes, the news last week that Ireland had struck oil may have seemed like a golden ticket.

Certainly, the suggestion that the well at Barryroe, south of Cork, can pump oil at a rate of around 4,000 barrels a day is a good indication that the well has decent resources – particularly when the explorer, Providence Resources, says the well could have a total capacity of one billion barrels.

The price on Friday afternoon of a barrel of crude oil in US markets stood at $107 – meaning the well could, if the price held steady, have a total trade value of $107 billion – that’s about €81 billion.

But how much of that would the Irish government expect to receive? And would the advent of oil drilling off Irish waters provide any real economic stimulus?

Successive Irish governments have adopted a relatively hands-off policy in trying to reap material benefits from any oil or gas taken from Irish waters. Under laws first introduced in 1987 and changed most recently in 2007, Ireland doesn’t take any stake in an oil venture – nor does it require any explorers to guarantee any supply to Ireland.

So, even though oil and gas would be recovered from Irish waters, there is no implicit guarantee that it could be used to offer supplies for Ireland – even though, in some cases, the rigs drilling for oil could be visible from the Irish mainland. There is, also, no guarantee that the oil being harvested from Ireland could be sold back to Ireland at a discounted rate.

Sliding tax rate

Instead, the government’s sole revenue is through corporation tax – where the State takes a 25 per cent cut of the profits made from the extraction of natural resources within its territory.

This rate can get higher in line with the company’s profits: once the profit is 1.5 times larger than the money spent on extracting it, the tax rate gets higher – up to a ceiling of 40 per cent, once the ratio hits 4.5:1.

Even still, this rate is among the lower rates of any country in the world – other territories with a better track record in securing oil levy a higher tax rate. Norway’s tax, for example, is 75 per cent. The UK’s is just above 50 per cent.

In exchange for this tax rate, the Irish government effectively signs over the ownership of the oil or gas – content to allow a private company do the hard work of extracting the materials, and simply taking a larger cut of the profits when the process is complete.

The difficulty in trying to ascertain where Ireland’s sliding tax scale would kick in for Barryroe, or anywhere else, is simply that no exploration operations have yet begun since the current tax regime came in. Extraction of gas at Kinsale took place under the previous tax regime in the 1970s.

William Hederman, a journalist who maintains the Irish Oil and Gas blog, fears the open-ended nature of the tax laws – which allow companies to deduct their exploration and development costs from their tax bill – could mean a smaller tax take than we might hope.

“That can include costs going back 25 years before a field goes into production,” he says. “It could include other unsuccessful wells drilled. They can write off the costs of other wells drilled in Irish waters.”

The taxman cometh

Not only that, but the fact that most companies drilling in Ireland have larger operations abroad – and are more likely to bring those staff to Ireland instead of hiring locals – means it’s possible that companies could claim tax refunds for cash spent abroad.

“The Irish taxman, I would suggest, is going to find it very difficult to establish just exactly what costs are related to the project,” he offers.

He points out that estimates offered by Eamon Ryan in 2008, about the Corrib gas project, suggested a net tax take to the State of around €1.7 billion – just under 18 per cent of the €9.5 billion that the field was worth at that time.

He also says a study compiled by private consultants for Shell in 2003, which gave a more realistic account of precisely how much gas was available in those waters, suggesting the project would pay just over €340 million.

While the market price of such gas perhaps doubled between those two dates, Hederman believes the net tax take from Corrib would be only about 7 per cent – and fears a similarly low cut could be taken in Barryroe.

An offer they can’t refuse

Industry figures, however, believe the comparatively generous tax regime is necessary in order to bring explorers to Ireland. David Horgan has previously told this site that the sliding scale of tax was ‘an intelligent one’ in the eyes of explorers.

The Irish Offshore Operators’ Association, the representative body for the oil and gas industry, suggests that one of the ways Ireland can encourage more investment in exploration is to ‘learn from our mistakes’.

“In the case of a major discovery, with licensing and permitting across many administrative lines, a mechanism should be established to coordinate and optimise the inputs of the various State agencies,” it says on its website, adding:

It is worth remembering that such a mechanism was put into effect during the successful and uncontroversial development of the Kinsale Head Gas Field in the 1970s.

It paints a clear example as to why Ireland, they say, needs to keep a lower tax rate – pointing out that the UK, which has a stronger history of oil exploration than Ireland does, attracted 350 bids for exploration licences in a recent licencing round. 144 were awarded.

In Ireland, in a similar round in 2009, only two bids for exploration licences were received. Only one was awarded.

Under the radar

Pat Shannon, a professor of geology at UCD, believes the apparent viability of Barryroe could mean that the “rest of the oil industry will now look at Ireland and see, ‘Oil’.

“Ireland has gone under the radar to an extent,” he says. “Any success we’ve had has been in terms of gas; the oil industry will certainly look at Ireland anew now, and with renewed interest.

“There are some other discoveries made over the years – some of these may start to be looked at.”

Hederman, however, fears that the Irish plan of seeking investment does not necessarily consider whether that investment is of any use.

Exploration may be less useful than considered, because many Irish operations would allow oil to be pumped to a tanker and then brought to a refinery outside of Ireland.

“Oil is now easier to carry than gas – you can just stick it on a tanker and move it. There maybe doesn’t need to be any onshore infrastructure at all,” Shannon suggests.

A fluid asset

The professor adds that oil technology is now so advanced that an oil rig can simply be moved from one place to another – with its staff moving wherever it goes.

This is a concern of Hederman’s – because the mobility of oil means that not only may it be brought abroad and not used to satisfy Ireland’s domestic needs, but it might also result in a total lack of employment.

“In the case of, say, Dalkey, while the project is very close to the shore in environmental terms, in economic terms it might as well be off the coast of Brazil.”

If there was a similarly located gas field in the area, he adds, “industry sources have told me that if it was a bit further out, they could pipe it to Wales instead of the east coast of Ireland. Our terms don’t improve our security of supply.”

While few would disagree with the general need for Ireland to offer the right terms and conditions to make it attractive for explorers to come here, the government’s main concerns must be trying to balance this with the broader national interest.

“I can see the State needs to offer terms that encourage companies to come,” Hederman ponders. “To what end, though? The terms and the way our legislation is drawn up… is very pro-business – it doesn’t really examine down the road, what are the benefits? Why is this going to be better for Ireland?

Currently, he argues, private companies “get to keep it all, and do what they want with it.”

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    Aug 18th 2018, 9:04 PM

    Congratulations to all involved, it is a wonderful opportunity.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 9:10 PM

    Hmm, that’s what they said about unpaid internships.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 9:44 PM

    @Phillip O’Brien: ya right great on you supporting a cult

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:04 PM

    @rowan hill: I have the right to my religion, yes.
    You might need to check exactly what a “cult” is before using it in ad hominem attacks.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:12 PM

    @Phillip O’Brien: Opportunity for what? To kowtow to a corrupt organisation and it’s mealy mouthed leader?

    The irony of women doing laundry/ironing for this is beyond comprehension.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:13 PM

    @Phillip O’Brien: you need to look up what ad hominem actually means.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:18 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: Apparently giving out about massively wealthy international organisations now qualifies as an “ad hominem” – what a world we live in.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:42 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: No I don’t, there was a statement made against me.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:58 PM

    @Phillip O’Brien: cult (noun) – 1. a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. Eh, yeah….

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    Aug 18th 2018, 11:05 PM

    @Phillip O’Brien: no, the comment referred to you as a supporter of the church but referred to the church as a cult.

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    Aug 19th 2018, 12:52 AM

    @Phillip O’Brien:
    Yes you do have a right to your religion Phillip. It’s just a pity your chosen religion (The Catholic Church) is the most unchristian organisation on the planet.

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    Aug 19th 2018, 1:00 AM

    @roderick: Need I say more – your comment is proof of what I’m saying.

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    Aug 19th 2018, 1:01 AM

    @Dave O Keeffe: I’d suggest you read the thread again.

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    Aug 19th 2018, 1:02 AM

    @James Joseph Superior Power: That’s certainly not been my experience.

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    Aug 19th 2018, 9:27 AM

    @Phillip O’Brien: But it is the experience of so many who went through rape and abuse or imprisonment in a laundry where their babies were sold or those who didn’t make it in Tuam. You are entitled to your religion but let’s not sugar coat those other experiences

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    Aug 19th 2018, 10:38 AM

    @Phillip O’Brien: Hi Phillip. I took the liberty of getting you a definition.

    cult
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    a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object.

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    Aug 19th 2018, 10:48 AM

    @David Quigley: Thank you. Your definition proves exactly that Roman Catholicism is not a cult.
    Many people here are implying that RC is a cult which worships/adores/venerates Pope Francis which is clearly false and an uneducated view.

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    Aug 19th 2018, 10:58 AM

    @Phillip O’Brien: Nah, more like a cult that worships/adores/venerates Jesus of Nazareth.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 11:12 PM

    Unpaid laundry work has a familiar ring to it

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    Mascot is a sheep….. says it all !

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    @Hello DAVE!: the flock with the frock.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 9:21 PM

    @Hello DAVE!: it’s all about blindly following….no questions asked, a sheep is the perfect moscot.

    That’s why they refer to followers as the flock.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:23 PM

    How do the 500,000 reconcile themselves with this? And wait till the Vatican shames and sorrows for the rest off the US, Ireland, the UK, Austrailia and then all the third world countries where these dark sick secrets are still hidden.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pennsylvania-child-abuse-pope-francis-vatican-priests-catholic-church-latest-a8495371.html

    Can any of the faithful answer and remember, it’s not a once off….have a look at the 500000 of you in the Phoenix park. The crowd is huge. Please note it’s a safe bet that at least that number of children have suffered from the RCC the last 1000 years.

    Please let me know.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:37 PM

    @Paul Furey: at least that, worldwide in the last 200 years its likely in the millions that have been abused,

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    Aug 19th 2018, 4:36 PM

    @Barry Somers: the earliest record of a paedophile priest dates from 400AD in the churches own writings. 1600 years of this.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 9:04 PM

    This is like a referendum with thejournal carefully balancing the articles.

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    Aug 18th 2018, 9:58 PM

    @Daveinson: Baa!

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:15 PM

    @Daveinson: would you rather they wrote articles defending child abuse? Millions abused worldwide, all covered up by the Vatican, what could you possibly put on the other side to balance that out?

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    Aug 18th 2018, 10:20 PM

    @Dave O Keeffe: An opinion piece from an Archbishop saying “yeah but it wasn’t ALL the priests!!!” should do nicely for balance on this terribly nuanced issue…

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    Aug 18th 2018, 11:28 PM

    @ihcalaM: it wouldn’t get past the Vatican because it would have to admit culpability.

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    @Dave O Keeffe: True. I forgot they were still in the ‘we’re really sorry about all that stuff and by the way we’re still shielding serial abusers’ phase.

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    @Dave O Keeffe: Is the Pope a Catholic??

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    @Peter Casey:
    He might be Catholic but he is no Christian

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    Aug 19th 2018, 2:22 AM

    Baptised a Catholic, but will not be part of a criminal organization. A religion that has always been a business. Granted the same could be said for all organised religions…. but the fallacy of the Catholic Church is beyond belief.

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    @Donal Desmond: Are You sure about that Sir? The Mother Church stopped Baptising human beings since well 1944 in english and 1777 in Latin. III. The Spirit of the Age http://ourladyisgod.com/

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    @Peadar117: I hope you stick around after the visit. You are great craic. Seriously, the sky fairy conspiracies are great.

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    Sheep outfit. Says it all, really. Waterford Whispers territory.

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    @Martin Meyler: I’m presuming you’re being sarcastic? You do actually get it?

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    Aug 19th 2018, 9:57 AM

    @Phillip O’Brien: well, duh…
    The church’s capacity for irony has never been great.
    And if you check the link, the clear aim is to lure in the kiddies. Which, you’d imagine at this stage, they might have copped on as to how that might be perceived.

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    They should all don sheep outfits.

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    How are we still so stupid as to still believe in this nonsense?

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    @Tony Doran: Slowly, but surely, we are overcoming it.

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    Ironing mammies?? Have we moved on at all? I’ve a feeling we’re not in 1979 anymore

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    Good to see the Church back in the laundry business.
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    Sheep thing is creepy…

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    Baa baa black sheep have you any wool, yes sir, yes sir, three bags full, one for the master, one for the slave and one for the little boy who lives down the lane…..Hmmmmmm.

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    The use of the Defence Forces to fill the gaps where insufficient volunteers were available is disgraceful.

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    The Defense Forces are not volunteers and have been ordered to fill the gaps where the church couldn’t provide. It’s a disgrace.

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