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What would happen if all the ice melted? Well, we'd be waving goodbye to most of Connacht

Not to mention, all of The Netherlands….

NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC HAS produced a new interactive map, detailing what the planet would look like if all land ice melted and drained into the sea.

The changes created by the consequent sea-level rise of 66 metres are dramatic: in Ireland, much of the West would be reclaimed by the Atlantic, with water covering around two thirds of Connacht.

In the UK, London would be subsumed by the Thames and the English Channel, while on continental Europe, The Netherlands would be a distant memory.

Further east, Venice would cease to exist, while the Mediterranean and Caspian Seas would swell, swamping countless towns and villages and creating radically different coastlines.

According to National Geographic:

There are more than five million cubic miles of ice on Earth, and some scientists say it would take more than 5,000 years to melt it all. If we continue adding carbon to the atmosphere, we’ll very likely create an ice-free planet, with an average temperature of perhaps 80 degrees Fahrenheit instead of the current 58.

The most dramatic continental changes would be in Asia: the magazine’s map shows land currently inhabited by 600 million Chinese would be flooded, along with all of Bangladesh (home to 160 million people) and much of coastal India.

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    Mute John Cotter
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    Dec 7th 2018, 2:52 PM

    Why should social housing be for life?

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    Mute John
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    Dec 7th 2018, 2:54 PM

    @John Cotter: agreed,social housing should be for a certain number of years to help you save for your own house and then that house is given to the next needy person to help them.

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    Mute Anthony
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:11 PM

    @John Cotter: I agree John. I was making a similar point on a different thread. We have become a welfare nation. I’m not saying this woman doesn’t deserve to be housed but there are so many people out there getting free houses with no intention of ever working or contributing. And why would they. Where’s the incentive.

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    Mute ParSim
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:27 PM

    @John Cotter: I know of a woman who recently moved in with her partner and her son is now living in the council house she reared him in. Her name is still on the tenancy.

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    Mute Linda Waters
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:35 PM

    @ParSim: so bloody what

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    Mute Linda Waters
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:37 PM

    @John Cotter: why shouldn’t it your comment’s are bull# making out people in social housing don’t work or pay rent, you’re nothing but a snob

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    Mute Linda Waters
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:39 PM

    @John: so basically you want the council to act like the shitty landlords of today and kick people out of their homes

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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:42 PM

    @John: and yet the majority of people in social housing work. Lots of people in ireland come from families of social housing. Your narrative doesn’t make sense or is even factual lol

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    Mute Sean Conway
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:45 PM

    @John Cotter: Why is buying a house so out of reach to ordinary people? everybody should have a home. not just the all ready rich.

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    Mute ParSim
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:51 PM

    @Linda Waters: So he hasn’t worked a day in his life and is paying minimal rent in a three bedroom house.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:52 PM

    @Linda Waters: Because
    1: They’re not allowed do so
    2: It’s not their house to gift to someone else
    3: There’s a housing waiting list full of families waiting for homes
    THAT’S WHY !!

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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:53 PM

    @John:

    You haven’t got a clue. Why do you think people are getting council housing? Because they can;t afford to get a mortgage for a house. Its alright for you you probably own your own house.

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    Mute Charliegrl80
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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:30 PM

    @An bhearna: it’s up to the council and not you to determine who’s entitled to a council house. You have no clue on the circumstances of someone’s tenancy other than the fact that someone made a comment on the usual old bull on here “I know someone brigade”. My brother lives in a beautiful council estate of 70 houses and out of these only 3 household do not work and one of these tenants are full time carers. No free houses and people pay rent according to their income as the council works on a differential rental system. When people get a council house the no longer qualify for HAP and pay according to the household income. If there are 6 working or in receipt of a welfare payment in the house then each person over 18 will pay rent.

    https://www.housingagency.ie/housing-information/what-is-social-housing/renting-from-my-local-authority.aspx

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:50 PM

    @Charliegrl80: yes but the system where by a person is granted a lease for life on the property because at one point they were in need of social housing is wrong.
    Look at how dun laoghaire rathdown calculate
    https://www.dlrcoco.ie/sites/default/files/atoms/files/rentscheme2017_14032017_pdf.pdf
    a person on 20000 would only be charged 2500 in rent for the year in an area where that’s nearly one months for people renting private. Also they can then on go on to get another job and still be charged at the same percent. The could be earning 40000 net and only be charge 6000 rent a year while someone who never qualified could be earning only 30000 and have to stay in private sector for their whole life.

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    Mute ParSim
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:11 PM

    @the druid: Curtain twitcher? She volunteered the information to me. Also told me herself and her partner couldn’t find a suitable house on the affordable housing list so paid €480,000 for one they thought was better suited to them.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:57 PM

    @Charliegrl80: I was born and bred in a Corporation house which was eventually purchased by my parents. All around them there are 2 and 3 generations of the same families sponging off the taxpayer who think they’re “entitled” to inherit a house that they don’t own. These people block genuine families who work hard but may never be able to afford their own home and who need assistance from the state. And before you tell me it’s “hearsay” I’ve spoken to 4 people in the last 6 months who are living in houses that they were never a tenant in and have decided to effectively squat there because “it was me Ma’s house” Join the queue like everyone else.

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    Mute Sean Conway
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    Dec 7th 2018, 7:28 PM

    @Linda Waters: Exactly. these people that only look downwards and not up. makes you wonder what we’re rearing.

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    Mute Margaret
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:00 PM

    I am happy for her. In Dundrum too. Prime area. What about Irish people who have been paying tax at top rate all their working lives, have no children, are never entitled to anything & are back living with their parents even though they are in their 30s & 40s?

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    Mute Porter Paddy
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:30 PM

    @Margaret: Sure we’re the biggest fools of the lot.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:33 PM

    @Porter Paddy: u said it!

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:05 PM

    @restinginmyaccpaddy: That’s the first thing I noticed why do non nationals get priority over Irish people, do we not have a duty to them the Irish people?

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    Dec 7th 2018, 7:52 PM

    @Annmoore:

    All 44 housing units were all handed to non nationals and none were given to Irish people. Good grief,

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    Dec 7th 2018, 2:49 PM

    While I do agree the government should be providing more social housing I have three children, born and reared in the dundrum area, unable to afford a home anywhere near where they grew up.

    So how does a dub, working in Dublin but unable to afford a home anywhere near the capital get a council house?

    A better solution is required!

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    Mute JC
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    Dec 7th 2018, 2:54 PM

    @Ro Molloy: Aye, I am a Dub, on a decent enough income and can’t afford a house anywhere in Dublin, let alone near where I grew up. It’s impossible to save for a deposit when rent is so high

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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:04 PM

    @Ro Molloy: 13 years on the waiting list. Imagine what you could achieve in 13 years in a good career, working hard. But no, hang around waiting for a house, its a joke.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:54 PM

    @JC:

    Move out of Dublin then.

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    Mute Dr. X (Official Continuity Faction)
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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:42 PM

    @Ro Molloy: The better solution would be. for more social housing

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:01 PM

    @Ro Molloy: with ur treanous government signing up to the UN migration pact in Morocco this weekend while other countries pulling out in their droves and a total irish media blackout on the signing you can for sure expect the situation get worse over the coming years.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:15 PM

    @Regina Farrell: Fool!! You need to learn what local authority income thresholds are to still qualify for social housing

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:06 PM

    @Regina Farrell: if you had read the article correctly with C she wasn’t hanging around waiting for a house she’s been paying rent for 14 years

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:26 PM

    @Ro Molloy:
    What do social housing schemes need to be in d4?

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    Mute David Daly
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:27 PM

    I’m delighted, a brand new house. In dundrum too! I’m glad the money I work hard for can buy at least 1 house. I can be safe in the knowledge someone doesn’t have to move back in with their parents like me. Joke of a place

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    Mute Sean Conway
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:57 PM

    @David Daly: On tv3 news they’re compaining about the maltreatment of protesters in france. they had no sympathy for IW protesters. such hypocrites.

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    Mute Patricia Kennedy
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:19 PM

    Most of us grew up in council houses, my parents bought the house some years later from the Council others didn’t but as long as you pay your rent the house is yours. There were no subsities and rent was based on earnings. My curiousity is quite simple where are the fathers of all these children, is there no family unit.? There is something very wrong here when you constantly see mothers with children getting homes. Are married couples not been housed at all.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:06 PM

    @Patricia Kennedy: Asked the same earlier in the week and the comment got censored.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:26 PM

    @Patricia Kennedy: the fathers move in when things quieten down,it’s called the back door system.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:13 PM

    @robbie: I agree if they can afford to buy the council house it’s time for them to move elsewhere and give the house to the next needy person

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    Mute Fergus Sheahan
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:02 PM

    How was this earned? And it i buy a house it will not be for life if i don’t pay my mortgage so why should a social house be for life? Am I a fool working and paying a mortgage?

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    Mute Dav Nagle
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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:44 PM

    @Fergus Sheahan: yes I’m saving hard to buy a house while these people are generating kids they can’t afford at the tax payers expense.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:13 PM

    @Dav Nagle: and never pay for painting,decorating or any maintenance…hmm maybe I shouldn’t have bought a house. Which I won’t own till I’m 70…

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:50 PM

    @Dav Nagle: perhaps those kids will pay the taxes that will support you in your old age while making significant contibutions to the country?

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    Mute Fergus Sheahan
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:54 PM

    @Dermattg: or perhaps they’ll follow their mothers example

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    Mute Margaret
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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:02 PM

    @Dermattg: maybe . . But I have paid enough into my own pension pot to pay for my pension. Should work stress allow me to get to that point.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 2:55 PM

    “I have security for life”.I have security for the next six months.

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    Mute Darren Byrne
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:39 PM

    @patrick o keeffe: Not only that but a house that will be excess to her needs in few years when the kids are gone but other families need it. They should be five year leases with a reassessment of needs at the end of it.

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    Mute Siobhán Ni Mhurchú
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:50 PM

    @Darren Byrne: that’s the way it should be ..

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:55 PM

    @Siobhán Ni Mhurchú: I have no issue with social as it is totally necessary but the way it has been implemented is just wrong. It’s why I believe councils push HAP so much because eventually people stop qualifying for it

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    Mute Anthony Whelan
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:08 PM

    Part of story a bit vague. She renting house for 14yrs on list for 13and a half? So is she living here longer or was it straight off the plane and straight to dunlaoghaire/rathdown co co to register on list?

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    Mute Sean Conway
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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:20 PM

    @Anthony Whelan: There is enough land around dublin to build houses for everyone. a compulsory purchase order on land in the dublin area is in our constitution. started by a yellow vest protest.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:48 PM

    @Anthony Whelan: You have to be resident and ‘economically active’ in Ireland for at least 3 years before you can claim Benefits. EU rules.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:02 PM

    @Sean Conway: correct. My sister bought a small council house for herself and her young son. Built 50 years, small, tidy home and they love it. What we need is proper statesmen/women who are in nobody’s pocket and the moral courage to take on the the advantaged and those who profit from others misfortunes. Someone who will risk their political neck and eschew even the party whip when the common good is at stake. Had hopes for young SFers but look very much like they have the same malaise as the rest.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:10 PM

    @ForeverFeel1ng: r u certain? I intend to verify this. I could b wrong but my understanding is all EU citizens treated in other EU countries as if that person’s country of birth, hence Irish people can access healthcare in other EU countries. Then again I am an Economist so what would I know.

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    Mute Margaret
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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:30 PM

    @Margaret: rubbish . . As I thought

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    Dec 7th 2018, 7:30 PM

    @Dermattg: Homelessness is big business for the wealthy.

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    Mute Anthony Whelan
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    Dec 7th 2018, 2:53 PM

    Seen as I’ve been renting since I left home over 20yrs ago will I be housed if my landlord wants his/her apartment back? Damm right I won’t, and why is that? Basically it’s because I work though earn enough (barely) not to be given rent aid and not enough to be given a mortgage. Country is a bloody joke

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    Mute Tony Nugent
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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:36 PM

    Why bother working??

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    Dec 7th 2018, 2:44 PM

    44 down 99,956 to go, keep up the good work Eoghan.

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    Mute PurpleRain
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:27 PM

    I’ve rented the last 10 years and it’s only in the back of my mind the landlord can kick me out. Must be nice to have that security for no work at all.

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    Mute Patrick Cat #2
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:50 PM

    @PurpleRain: Like many I am in the same boat but instead of the salty comments of the few on in here you have yourselves to blame fools. Keep voting the the same FF/FG and keep wondering why nothing is ever improving for the Joe soap down the road!!

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    Mute Katy Ekaterina
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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:38 PM

    This woman at list spent 13.5 years on the list. There was an article recently how 24 and 26 years old women got social houses. There is zero transparency is how social houses allocated. For instance DCC declared that they don’t prioritize people living in hotels for social housing anymore and at the same time giving to 24 years old while other families wait for 15 years and more! So go homeless and skip the list perfectly works as before.

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    Mute Conor Treacy
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:50 PM

    Why do they build social housing in exclusive parts of Dublin? Would it not be better/less expensive for the government to build social housing in less expensive parts of the country?

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    Mute thomas mitchell
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:04 PM

    Its great to sercurity for life,im paying a huge debt on a 4 bed semi and if i cant pay im turfed out, 20 years left on 380,000 mortgage ,paying it back is slowly killing me,but fair play you ,im the ghoul .

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    Mute Todd Umptious
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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:50 PM

    Reading some of these comments makes me sick. Especially since I’m Irish, in my thirties, worked just to try and pay rent the last ten years and back home now after unfair dismissal. Yet somehow it didn’t make me bitter like the rest of my countryfolk posting here in The same boat. Delighted for this human and her family. Nobody lives where they’re originally from, not even us Irish with direct celtic descent, we were rushed out of europe and took this land from the people who were here before us. Stop being so close minded, take a step back and see the bigger picture of the species. I don’t know if she’s born in Ireland or moved here but it shouldn’t matter, her life is here and this is her and her children’s home.

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    Mute Eamonn Kiely
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:54 PM

    @Todd Umptious: your in big trouble now. You said “human”

    I thought we were not allowed to say “human” anymore:)

    The PC brigade will be up in arms now. Quick run for cover.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:04 PM

    @Todd Umptious: well said!

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    Mute Johnny
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    Dec 7th 2018, 2:53 PM

    13 years on a housing list is madness

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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:00 PM

    Just be happy for the woman ffs. Us Irish are really bitter. Although lots of you won’t admit to it we are a bitter people. From an off the cuff remark to a friend or in the pub the bitterness is their. You know it I know it everyone knows it.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 4:22 PM

    @Alan foggorty: whines bitter old alan

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    Mute David Daly
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    Dec 7th 2018, 7:30 PM

    @Alan foggorty: yeah bitter because it’s absolutely unfair that this is happening, of course we all have sympathy for people who fall on hard times but how is it fair that this woman Has a 3 bed semi in dundrum and I have had to move my family out of my home in Dublin to the other side of the country just doing can afford to rent a house.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 2:45 PM

    Finally a good news story

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:14 PM

    Just once I’d love to see one of the ‘sure why would you work?’ people actually put their money where their mouth is and quite their job to live on the social. But they won’t, because deep down they know they’re better off working!

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    Mute Margaret
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:27 PM

    @Keith O’Reilly: u can not quit a job to go on the dole.

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    Mute Anthony Whelan
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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:21 PM

    @Keith O’Reilly: or maybe work makes them feel better in themselves. You know getting up and out everyday. Your not supposed to ”live on the social ” it’s there as a quick short term aid. So tell us what has you living on the social as you seem to think it’s a alternative for working

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:34 PM

    @Margaret: there are so many people in casual employment, zero hours etc that they can’t check anymore, people are being treated like dirt in the private sector and if they show up at the dole office the fact is they need help

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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:12 PM

    Security for life if you don’t breach your tenancy agreement

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    Mute ForeverFeel1ng
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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:52 PM

    Why do so many people here begrudge this woman an affordable home?? If you are working and providing for your family in difficult circumstances (as she is) why should you not get support.

    And don’t start replying on here about how you are struggling more, the criteria are universal, apply for a social house and get on the list if you’re all so needy.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:12 PM

    @ForeverFeel1ng: ehh because we do not qualify . . We work . . We take responsibility & don’t have children we can not provide for. . Where is/are the father/s?

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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:35 PM

    I wonder how many people commenting on her nationality would also be calling brexit voters little englanders?

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    Dec 7th 2018, 3:52 PM

    @Kenneth Finnerty: there is only 1 real reason why Brexit is happening.

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    Dec 7th 2018, 5:01 PM

    @Suzanne Bell: Should could be Irish and married someone from Eastern Europe? Either way. What does it matter?

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    Dec 7th 2018, 6:50 PM

    44! Woooo! Only 9000+ to go. At this rate our homelessness levels will reach pre-recession numbers by 2200!!#keeptherecoverygoing

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