Skip to content
Support Us

We need your help now

Support from readers like you keeps The Journal open.

You are visiting us because we have something you value. Independent, unbiased news that tells the truth. Advertising revenue goes some way to support our mission, but this year it has not been enough.

If you've seen value in our reporting, please contribute what you can, so we can continue to produce accurate and meaningful journalism. For everyone who needs it.

A childhood in dangerous Colombia inspires...

Juan Gabriel Vásquez grew up in a Bogotá rife with violence, and a drugs trade beginning to take off. His experiences inspired his IMPAC-winning novel.

1280px-Bogotá_de_noche Bogotá at night Wikimedia Commons Wikimedia Commons

IN THE SOUND of Things Falling, his IMPAC Award-winning novel, Juan Gabriel Vásquez brings us to a Bogotá where violence is an everyday occurrence, where an assassination raises barely an eyebrow, and where men turn to drug trafficking to help their family survive.

Vásquez (41), is a Colombian writer, translator and journalist who spent many years living in Europe before recently returning home to Bogotá. He initially discarded his first attempts at the novel after feeling “too removed” from it, but told TheJournal.ie how a personal epiphany led to him turning it into a multi-layered story about family, violence, and mystery, and draws on his personal experiences.

Winning the prize to write books

Winning the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award- which comes with a €100,000 prize, of which Vásquez will receive €75k and his translator, Canadian Anne McClean, €25k – is important to the author for many reasons, not least because of his fellow nominees.

“It’s a very distinguished shortlist,” he acknowledged. “It really is an honour to be there.  And the fact that books are nominated by libraries is very important to me.”

What does he plan to do with his share of the prize money? “Write books,” he said simply, before jokingly adding: “And not let my girls starve.”

The ‘girls’ are his twin daughters, who recently moved with him and his wife back to Bogotá. It’s an interesting decision, given that Vásquez said a number of years ago that he had no plans to move home.

That had much to do with the period explored in The Sound of Things Falling, which brings the reader to the Bogotá of the 1980s, when Colombian drug lord and cocaine trafficker Pablo Escobar was at the height of his powers.

Bringing history into fiction

Pablo_Escobar_graffitti Pablo Escobar graffiti Wikimedia Commons Wikimedia Commons

In The Sound of Things Falling, Vásquez takes Colombia’s recent history and uses it to show the impact that violence has on a person.

He tells the story of Antonio Yammara, a young law professor (Vásquez himself studied Law before moving to Paris to work as a novelist) who becomes fascinated by the older, curious Ricardo Laverde, and what happens after they are affected by the same cataclysmic event.

Yammara’s mission to find out more about Laverde, his dark secrets, and his fractured family necessitates a look at Colombia’s violent past, introducing the reader to a country where one man – drug kingpin Escobar – used his role to wield ultimate power over citizens and political figures alike.

Protagonist Yammara reflects on a childhood in Bogotá where violence was ever-present, and where Escobar’s Robin Hood reputation charmed many.

It was an era that Vásquez also lived through, and the book is his way of exploring its impact on his life and others.

Bringing the personal into the story

The key to the novel coming together was injecting this personal side into it. “This book started as a story of Ricardo Laverde and I worked at it for about a year and a half and just lost all enthusiasm for the stories, it felt removed, it felt like I was really writing in too much in the third person,” recalled Vásquez.

But one day he opened a magazine and found a photograph of a dead hippo, which made him remember “for the first time in many years”, the times of terrorism and the drug wars in Bogotá when he was growing up.

That dead hippo reminded him of Escobar’s reign, when the drug lord had his own zoo at his Hacienda Nápoles complex.

Vásquez realised that somebody from his generation “had to tell this story”; someone who had lived through it and “suffered the consequences”.

From that point on, the book became “the most difficult book I ever wrote and the easie[st] one” for him.

Because everything came from my own experience and my own memories, but at the same time they were really hidden and suppressed memories that I had to drag out.

Looking at this period through the eyes of an adult, he discovered how difficult it must have been to live through those years.

“I really understood many of the attitudes my parents had at the time,” said Vásquez.

I understood how much those years had an impact or left an imprint on us our relationship with fear, with the idea of unpredictable violence, I really hadn’t realised up to what point we lived with the intuition that something bad could happen at any moment of the day. I began to understand some of my own attitudes, my own paranoid feelings sometimes.

Vásquez wryly describes the process as “very cheap psychoanalysis”, but it’s clear that dredging through these memories helped him re-assess his own childhood.

This isn’t a ‘history book’

1280px-Centro_empresarial_St_bárbara_Bogotá Bogotá today Wikimedia Commons Wikimedia Commons

He realised that at some point, he had grown used to the public side of the drug trafficking, the blood-splattered crime scenes on TV, the dead bodies pictured in newspapers.

Approaching the topic the way he did, and exploring these issues through a personal story, makes Vásquez stand out in his field. He won’t necessarily say that himself (though McClean does), but he acknowledges that he doesn’t know other Colombian authors of his generation who have dealt with this particular subject this particular way.

“In that generation, many people are dealing with the impact of politics or social conflicts on the individual,” he said.

What Vásquez deals with is the “crossroads” between the public life and private life. He doesn’t see his book as a means of educating people about Colombian history, but readers will find themselves fascinated by the country.

“It’s a private exploration on the side of the writer which will eventually shed some light on dark places for serious readers.”

Returning to Bogotá

Bogotá is very hostile in many ways, “but no more so than any other eight million [population] big city in the world”, said Vásquez.

It’s a big, complicated city in a country that is still violent, but it’s not the same thing. There’s no terrorism, except for a couple of things in the 14 years we have lived through this century. It’s very energetic, its very it’s electric, it’s a very interesting place. And at the same time, very difficult.

He moved for family reasons, and said the move isn’t permanent. But it has had some unforeseen consequences for his writing – mainly, realising how easy it is to live next door to his subjects.

“I had never written about Colombia while living in Colombia,” said Vásquez, to whom realism is hugely important. “I had to write about Bogotá [by] calling my parents, calling my friends, asking them to go to such-and-such a corner and ‘tell me if you go to that corner could you see that park’.”

Now, being back in his home city is infusing his work with a new, exciting energy. He used to say that he was able to write about Colombia because he was removed from it. “But now I realise that if I’m reasonably comfortable with the idea of moving back, it’s because Colombia has become different, it’s because Colombia has become unfamiliar to me.”

After nearly two decades abroad, he has realised “I don’t fully belong there”, and it is this tension that allows him to go on writing about Colombia.

Things that are unpredictable, things that are surprising – these are what fire up his creative drive, and he is now finding them at home.

The influence of James Joyce

Revolutionary_Joyce_Better_Contrast Wikimedia Commons Wikimedia Commons

Next up for Vásquez is a book of short stories, which was first published in 2001 and is being translated into English.

“It’s really interesting to see that they hold up to scrutiny,” he said of his older work. “I had published two novels before but I have completely disowned them.” Will he be returning to these? It’s unlikely.

One thing he would love to translate is our own James Joyce’s Dubliners, which celebrates its centenary this year. He is particularly inspired by the book’s closing story The Dead, whose last paragraph provided “almost a blueprint” for the ending of one of his own short stories.

But it’s Ulysses that he really holds most love for – it was, along with 100 Years of Solitude, by Colombian writer Gabriel Garcia Marquez, one of two books that made him want to become a writer.

I read Ulysses when I was 20. It was perfect for me… I didn’t understand a single word, I think. But just realising those things could be done with language and with structure, it was really an epiphany.

First published 1.10pm

Read: €100k IMPAC award goes to author of Colombian thriller>

Readers like you are keeping these stories free for everyone...
A mix of advertising and supporting contributions helps keep paywalls away from valuable information like this article. Over 5,000 readers like you have already stepped up and support us with a monthly payment or a once-off donation.

Close
Comments
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Mike Reid
    Favourite Mike Reid
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:02 PM

    I thought there already was a book about the life of jesus…

    145
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Garry Fitzgerald
    Favourite Garry Fitzgerald
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:06 PM

    Mike
    Great comment. I believe there are thousand of books written about Julius Caesar. What is your point or do you just like seeing your name in print?

    24
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ryan oneill
    Favourite Ryan oneill
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:25 PM

    Garry, I think he is referring to the so called bible. But you missed that due to an insulting rant as per usual.

    And I didn’t know the pope was a ghost writer of fantasy fiction now. Those collection plates must be empty in a Sunday.

    121
    See 5 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute peepingass
    Favourite peepingass
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:48 PM

    Yes, Mike, but this new one is ‘infallible,’ it has even corrected the ‘ancient truth’ about the date of Christ’s birth! I wonder what more needs correction? I mean, can we rely on the teachings of the Fathers of the Church or Tradition? Or the many contributors to the Bible? No doubt some inspired expert will come up with a rational and convincing explanation of why the black is really white!

    19
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Emily Elephant
    Favourite Emily Elephant
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:33 PM

    Actually there are four, but they’re not quite consistent with each other. Three of them don’t have enough zombies or earthquakes.

    24
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damien Flinter
    Favourite Damien Flinter
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:40 PM

    I wonder has he updated the bit from the sermon on the mount where he said:-

    ‘Blessed are the accumulating sacred foetal cells, for they shalt hold precedence over the lives of women, who art but spare ribs in the first place.’?

    37
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kathleen Courtney
    Favourite Kathleen Courtney
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:47 PM

    Jesus was a zombie!

    19
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ciaran Dillon
    Favourite Ciaran Dillon
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 3:59 PM

    Just in time for Christmas. No doubt it’ll top the Fiction Best Seller list…

    12
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute David Kearney
    Favourite David Kearney
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:50 AM

    The Harry potter series was better. More believable anyway.

    138
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute peepingass
    Favourite peepingass
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:49 PM

    I suppose it’s a case of ‘whatever turns you on!’

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute John Dobermann
    Favourite John Dobermann
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:41 AM

    I hear its full of sex, drugs and rock and roll.

    125
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Martin Healy
    Favourite Martin Healy
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:55 AM

    Isn’t everything?

    31
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul Furey
    Favourite Paul Furey
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:04 PM

    Monsignor Georg Gaenswin !!! I just loved his “Rhapsody in Blue”

    18
    See 4 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Katie Does
    Favourite Katie Does
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:57 PM

    @Martin I know, isn’t it great!

    2
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Oh boy
    Favourite Oh boy
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:40 PM

    The rebranding of Jesus!

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damien Flinter
    Favourite Damien Flinter
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:43 PM

    Naw, John…thats the Vatican you’re thinking of.

    7
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Tom Newnewman
    Favourite Tom Newnewman
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 3:08 PM

    When you have read it let us know.

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul Murphy
    Favourite Paul Murphy
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:53 AM

    Nice to see he’s found a hobby as a fiction writer instead of concentrating on changing the church’s stance on modern issues. Although long may the drift out of modern culture by the church continue. Humankind is far better without religion.

    Also, If pope benedict had an enema they could bury him in a matchbox

    87
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute peepingass
    Favourite peepingass
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:50 PM

    Would you share it with him?

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul Murphy
    Favourite Paul Murphy
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:38 PM

    Share what?

    8
    See 1 more reply ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damien Flinter
    Favourite Damien Flinter
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:44 PM

    For it is written..’Love your enema’.

    29
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Abi Dennis
    Favourite Abi Dennis
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:26 PM

    i hear the main character dies in the end!

    83
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Leigh Power
    Favourite Leigh Power
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:36 PM

    Ah come on, at least use spoiler tags.

    51
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul Furey
    Favourite Paul Furey
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:51 PM

    Ehhhhh, he didnt exactly die…..in the end. maybe thats all revealed in book 3?

    32
    See 5 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Winston Teardrops
    Favourite Winston Teardrops
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:00 PM

    You will love this third book Abi. Not saying any more.

    15
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Emily Elephant
    Favourite Emily Elephant
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:35 PM

    He comes back to life again 2 days later, thus fulfilling the prophecy that he would come back to life 3 days later.

    14
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Abi Dennis
    Favourite Abi Dennis
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:42 PM

    so they rip off harry potter??

    29
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute reds
    Favourite reds
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 6:52 PM

    I hope he gets that b4stard Judas back, and in 3D too!!!

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Donna Walsh O'Brien
    Favourite Donna Walsh O'Brien
    Report
    Nov 24th 2012, 12:49 AM

    I heard he rose again!

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Brian Jnr
    Favourite Brian Jnr
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:50 AM

    Did ye ever here do much bullshit in all you life !

    62
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute William Grogan
    Favourite William Grogan
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:05 PM

    Yes, you should look at Scientology or Mormonism. :)

    76
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute peepingass
    Favourite peepingass
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:51 PM

    No, but we await your contribution.

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul Furey
    Favourite Paul Furey
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:01 PM

    A chap of this name appears in historical records. The rest is made up by the church from around 450AD when a flesh and blood man wanted to consolidate his position of power within the church and to ensure that the church would become more powerful and wealthy.

    Give us your money kings and princes, that’ll get you into heaven and you needn’t fear this wrath of god thing that we just made up.

    The church is still at it then with ths book – more revenue. However I’m sure the intentions are good.

    48
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute SkepticallySpeaking
    Favourite SkepticallySpeaking
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:41 PM

    Hi Paul,
    Geniunly intersted in checking out these historical records. Do you have a link or a lead I could look up?

    Also if there is anywhere to read up on the early history of the church, could be interesting.

    7
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul Furey
    Favourite Paul Furey
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:46 PM

    Consult the universal source of all wisdom – Google.

    19
    See 4 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul McCann
    Favourite Paul McCann
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:46 PM

    Check up on the ‘Historical Jesus.’ There is a lot of research which suggests there is no evidence he existed at all.

    22
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute SkepticallySpeaking
    Favourite SkepticallySpeaking
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:57 PM

    Cheers

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damien Flinter
    Favourite Damien Flinter
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:50 PM

    Actually, there is a good historical assessment of the evidence and cast by a Palestinian raised writer, Gordon Thomas. It was published in 1987.

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kevin Elliott
    Favourite Kevin Elliott
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 6:19 PM

    So just to be clear Paul your view on the early church is that in 450 they said “You know what our religion needs? An actual deity..lets use the random guy we’ve been worshipping anyway for the last few centuries”?.

    4
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Graham Finlay
    Favourite Graham Finlay
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:35 PM

    This would mean the gregorian calendar is a few years out so its more like 2016 A.D now instead of 2012, and that in turn would mean the mayan prediction for the worlds end was a few years ago not this year! Phew..thats fantastic news!!

    45
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute JustMe
    Favourite JustMe
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 8:46 PM

    I was taught that Jesus was born in September but the Catholic church changed the celebration day to coincide with a pagan festival to subsume it.

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute James Patrick Smith
    Favourite James Patrick Smith
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:28 PM

    Maybe the Pope should concentrate on selling off the Vatican’s assets and actually practice what this Jesus character is suppose to be about helping the sick poor and needy.

    This Organisation is rotten to the core teaching outdated malarkey.How anyone can support this shower beggars belief.I doubt Jesus would approve of the Catholic Corporation legacy of corruption and abuse.

    Science is the only show in town not irrational illogical fairytales.

    43
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damien Flinter
    Favourite Damien Flinter
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:05 PM

    If he came back a little later he’d have ascended into heaven on a pillar of smoke from his burning stake..after the Inquisition had shaken him down for opposing their imperial crusades.
    JC was originally tortured and executed for heresy against the Judean papacy of Caiaphas.
    They then deified the man to incorporate his persona into their box of priest-craft tricks for mass-hypnosis. Thats Mass hypnosis.

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Jonathan McDade
    Favourite Jonathan McDade
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:32 PM

    Jesus Trilogy? Ok! Let’s start with Episode IV

    Episode IV: A New Testament Hope
    Episode V: The Roman Empire Strikes Back
    Episode VI: Return of the Jesus

    42
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kevin Smyth
    Favourite Kevin Smyth
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 4:02 PM

    When are we getting the prequels?
    “Once upon a time, in the Middle East, lived One Man!” (Movie trailer voice)

    12
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Barry
    Favourite Barry
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:51 AM

    How exactly can they write about this men….if he even existed?

    They don’t know for a fact when he was actually born…no it wasn’t the 25th Dec, so how can they then claim he was born years earlier then they previously guessed?

    They also don’t know pretty much anything of his life between say 1 and 20/30 years of age.

    40
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Petr Tarasov
    Favourite Petr Tarasov
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:59 AM

    if he even existed?

    85
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute William Grogan
    Favourite William Grogan
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:04 PM

    Petr, there is no evidence Jesus existed. If there is bring it on.

    41
    See 10 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Chuck Eastwood
    Favourite Chuck Eastwood
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:09 PM

    Ok so lets saw some guy called Jesus did exist who went around pulling scams on people with his old water to wine switcharoo amongst other party tricks, how in the name of Moses did he not have his own marketing manager and publicist to write his own book. Maybe they just couldn’t arranged a date to meet. I thought you said the 22/12/0033 . No buddy I meant the 22/12/0030. I really must get my printing company to get the dates sorted out for these calendars. There a nice little earner

    24
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Donal Rafferty
    Favourite Donal Rafferty
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:15 PM

    Don’t think so Petr, I’ve watched documentaries that systematically disproved any evidence of his existence leaving nothing of proof that he ever existed as anything other than a fictional character on some paper

    36
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Barry O'Brien
    Favourite Barry O'Brien
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:31 PM

    The name Jesus is translation of ‘Joshua’ which was a very common name in Palestine two thousand years ago. In Hebrew it was ‘Yeshua’ and when translated to Greek it was Iesous. The Greek Iesous translated into Latin is Iesus which became Jesus.

    The word ‘Christ’ is actually not a name but a title. It is derived from the Greek word ‘Christos’ which meant ‘anointed’ and was a translation from Hebrew ‘Masiah’ which meant Messiah.

    Overall, there would be no historical record of ‘Jesus Christ’ because in Palestine two thousand years ago the name/title would not have existed.

    Whether there was a man who lived and influenced the Christian Gospel, I do not know. But what is in the Gospels certainly should not be taken as literal. There is no God so logically there can be no Son of God.

    55
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Chuck Eastwood
    Favourite Chuck Eastwood
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:32 PM

    Dam. Had to red thumb my own post due to poor grammar. Sorry baby Jesus or is it toddler Jesus

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute David Kearney
    Favourite David Kearney
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:58 PM

    The odd thing is that every major point in Jesus’ life has a striking similarity to many gods that came before him. Like Horus for example. All seems a bit stitched together to get the others involved.

    27
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Katie Does
    Favourite Katie Does
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:02 PM

    Apparantly it was a great time for prophets, the whole region was like a hugh Speaker’s Corner with every dog and divel expounding his favourite fiction all over the place. The depiction of it in Monty Python’s Life of Christ is probably more accurate than any put about by the church. He could have been any of them, lots of them were probably even called Joshua – it would have been near the top of the Nazareth Times baby names list.

    18
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Barry
    Favourite Barry
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:37 PM

    David Kearney, sssshhh don’t point out stuff like that it really upsets people when they are told they just copied other religions….and they did! :)

    19
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Stephen Gill
    Favourite Stephen Gill
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:39 PM

    If anyone is interested Prof Bart Ehrman of Stanford University is a leading scholar on the New Testament and has some interesting insights into early Christianity and the New Testament. He is a former evangelical Christian whose studies of the NT have led him casting doubt as to the existence of Jesus. Some of his talks are on Youtube he makes some interesting points on the gospels and how they have been misused by Christianity.

    14
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Tom Newnewman
    Favourite Tom Newnewman
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 3:05 PM

    Multiple quotes eg. “Love the Higher Mind (no human knows it all) of the universe, and love your neighbour as yourself”

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kevin Smyth
    Favourite Kevin Smyth
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 4:26 PM

    @ D. Kearney; I watched a film last night called ‘The Man From Earth’.
    Lead character mentions how he spread Buddhist teachings to people in the West (Israel) and they wanted him to be the ‘son of god’ so badly.

    Life of Brian: (Brian) “Go away!”
    (Followers) “How shall we go away?”
    (Brian, exasperated) “Just p**s off!!” :)

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Will Ahearne
    Favourite Will Ahearne
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:54 AM

    How can somebody, ok the Pope , write a trilogy about somebody who lived give or take 2000 years ago and say that the time frame is out by a few years , expect to take his as gospel!!!

    38
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute James Moran
    Favourite James Moran
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:13 PM

    I assume if I look for it in a book shop it will be under fiction!.

    36
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Garry Fitzgerald
    Favourite Garry Fitzgerald
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:59 PM

    Ryan
    My comments address the usual anti everything and incoherent lobby that appears daily on these pages. Whether it is politicians or business men or priests or doctors the only thing safe here is the Extreme Left who infest the place like wood worm in the legs of an old piano stool.
    Why shouldn’t a doctrinal scholar at the level of the Vicar of Rome commit his knowledge and research on the subject of Jesus Christ to paper without the vomit of criticism that emanates from people aforementioned.
    Those critics who declare themselves as anti religion or atheists should simply mind their own business and confine themselves to the study of their own preserve. Gestis censere!

    22
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damien Flinter
    Favourite Damien Flinter
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:54 PM

    Lets make adeal Garry.

    The vicar backs out of medical issues…and we lay off his flights of fancy.

    Fair?

    30
    See 4 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ryan oneill
    Favourite Ryan oneill
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:42 PM

    I suggest you take your own advice first there Garry before dishing your ideals on others who quite simply couldn’t give a flying priest frock what you, the pope or JC himself has to say! But I’ll say a prayer for you and light a candle in the hope that you may see the light and the error of your ways and may a fictional character in the sky grant you devine presence behind a set of pearly white gates forever in the knowing that you are free from satan’s lair where dirty aul peado priest will rot and burn. That do ya or would you like my fist born too?

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ciaran Dillon
    Favourite Ciaran Dillon
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 4:12 PM

    @ Garry. Biblical Scholars only have to read one book. We the rational people of Earth require much higher standards of those that wish to be known as scholars.

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kevin Smyth
    Favourite Kevin Smyth
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 4:17 PM

    Garry (two r’s) is here preaching ‘live and let live’. Seriously? The church has muscled its pious and pompous way into the lives of Irish people, but shame on us for speaking out. If the church could just quiet down and mind ‘it’s’ own business, I think you’ll find its opponents will reciprocate. Alas, this is not the way of this meddling organization. As more people become educated and knowledgeable, the church will shrivel. It’s happening already.

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Jerome Gelb
    Favourite Jerome Gelb
    Report
    Nov 23rd 2012, 5:55 AM

    You must be kidding! We’re about to have a Federal Royal Commission into Child Sexual Abuse here in Australia, demanded by a public clamouring for an end to the coverup, payoffs & political deals. Promoting the Catholic Church in any way, including via commercially touted Papal books, should be derided, until the Church has cleaned house, vowed to obey the law & aided in the prosecution of offenders. Police in Victoria have over 600 cases of child sexual abuse on their books that were never investigated, due to orders from above…….and not far enough above to be granted absolution either! Organised religion isn’t divine, it’s run by humans & is corrupt, greedy, deviant- ridden & psychopathic, as one would expect whenever secret rules, closed hearings & sagely whispers become the substitute for transparency, honesty, decency & justice!

    2
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Andrew Brennan
    Favourite Andrew Brennan
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:28 PM

    I wonder does the relationship between Joseph and Mary get a mention – the marital relationship that is?

    Poor Joseph, God must have been a hard act to follow. And when Joseph and Mary were getting their … ahem, marital mojo up and running did Joseph feel a bit put out when Mary screamed ‘Oh God, Oh God’ ?

    Needs to be asked … only saying.

    32
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damien Flinter
    Favourite Damien Flinter
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:08 PM

    That an interesting take on the original Big Bang theory there, Andrew.

    Puts a whole new meaning into the term ‘shooting-stars’.

    12
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Mjhint
    Favourite Mjhint
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 7:03 PM

    Andrew very logical questions. blunt & brutal but logical!

    2
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute John Duncan
    Favourite John Duncan
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:54 AM

    cashing in??

    28
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute James Patrick Smith
    Favourite James Patrick Smith
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:04 PM

    Christianity: The belief that some cosmic Jewish zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. Makes perfect sense.

    27
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damocles
    Favourite Damocles
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:42 PM

    Cool, loads of people who do not believe in Christianity moaning that someone who does believe in Christianity wrote a book around his beliefs.

    24
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ryan oneill
    Favourite Ryan oneill
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:46 PM

    And there’s always one who points that out! Peats for peats sake

    5
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damocles
    Favourite Damocles
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:50 PM

    “Pete’s”

    9
    See 2 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute peepingass
    Favourite peepingass
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:55 PM

    I suppose you gotta eat something!

    Could be a spiritual hunger.

    3
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Damien Flinter
    Favourite Damien Flinter
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:12 PM

    Pizza?

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute O'Reilly
    Favourite O'Reilly
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:13 PM

    There’s a killer twist at the end…

    17
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Frank2521
    Favourite Frank2521
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:39 PM

    Catholics need confession to allow them carry on behaving as they do. Ireland is typical of a catholic fundamentalist country ie it has one of the highest rates of incest in Europe, it has the highest rate of child sex abuse recorded by priests, and we have 1 in 5 suffer domestic violence. And people are proud to be Irish. It means that there are at least 30 politicians who have sex with their kids or beat their partners. Of course the catholic ethos is alive and well here – people confess and then carry on as before. .

    16
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute William Grogan
    Favourite William Grogan
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:57 PM

    May god forgive ye! :)

    7
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute peepingass
    Favourite peepingass
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:58 PM

    That seems to leave you as an example to the rest of us!

    God help us all so – us Protestant, Catholic, Jew and Presbyterians, HIndus, Moslems, etc., etc.

    What sort of an idiot equates Ireland with Catholic nowadays?

    15
    See 1 more reply ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Emily Elephant
    Favourite Emily Elephant
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:45 PM

    @peepingass

    Certain employees of Galway University Hospital, apparently.

    17
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute enda creaven
    Favourite enda creaven
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:35 PM

    This is a headline straight from ‘The Onion’….sadly, the story is not as funny. such guff

    14
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Sean Mac Gabhann
    Favourite Sean Mac Gabhann
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 3:10 PM

    There was sex, drugs and rock n’ roll in the bible…. jesus got laid in the toomb…… ill get my coat, taxi.

    11
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute tom
    Favourite tom
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:14 PM

    isn’t so hip and cool to slag off the church wow such insight …
    can I ask is there a lould pop noise when you pull your head out of your ass.

    11
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute William Grogan
    Favourite William Grogan
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:53 PM

    Tom, is there any comment above that you dislike BUT you agree causes you a problem with your belief? For instance, there’s no historical evidence Jesus existed.

    You have to accept, and learn to live with the fact, that to Non-Believers/Atheists/Freethinkers etc there is NO difference between a Harry Potter book and the bible and therefore we find it hilarious that grown adults can’t see this. I coped on when I was 13, how come you haven’t?

    16
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Ian Martin
    Favourite Ian Martin
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:58 PM

    @ Amy croffey: why are you allowing this thread become so abusive and offensive to people who believe in Jesus Christ? Or was it posted purposely for atheists to have a laugh at?

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Barry
    Favourite Barry
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:43 PM

    in fairness the story is news, people can comment on it if they wish. You don’t have to agree with everything said.

    People are also allowed to have a different view on a subject, for example I find anti-abortion people’s views very offensive on other storys but I don’t ask for thejournal.ie to delete them.

    15
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kevin Elliott
    Favourite Kevin Elliott
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:54 PM

    It’s news? How many other book launches has the Journal covered ? Any other biographies I can see get thrown in the Daily Edge. But it’s a good excuse to give the usual anti-theist commenters some fulfilment. And t works for the Journal in fairness. This “news” already has more comments than most of the actual important world events in the other stories

    10
    See 4 more replies ▾
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Mike Meyers
    Favourite Mike Meyers
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 3:00 PM

    That’s the sad part about religion. You can poke fun at politicians but I can’t poke fun at religion? Why should religion be exempt from Freethought and open discussion? No one is personally attacking you and it’s a shame…

    9
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kevin Smyth
    Favourite Kevin Smyth
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 4:53 PM

    “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.”

    ― Voltaire

    12
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Julian Dods
    Favourite Julian Dods
    Report
    Feb 28th 2013, 3:17 AM

    Kev Elliott – have you thought of swanning off and making fun of muslims lately? If not you are about as one sided and ignorant as the claims you place against christianity. Go, i dare you to go and spend as much effort being as offensive to them.. or are you cursed with a school bully mentality, only picking on those you know wont turn around and snot you? hypocrite..

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Kevin Elliott
    Favourite Kevin Elliott
    Report
    Feb 28th 2013, 6:42 AM

    Julian Dods – you are three months behind and a little confused. Maybe you should read my comment again

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute âš¡Wynnnerâš¡
    Favourite âš¡Wynnnerâš¡
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:33 PM

    Still won’t beat 50 Shades

    10
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute William Grogan
    Favourite William Grogan
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:48 PM

    Does all this adjusting of time mean I’m 2 years younger? :)

    8
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Oliver O'Neill
    Favourite Oliver O'Neill
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 2:29 PM

    I presume this is an autobiography and the pope is merely ghost writing?

    8
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute QhpFny3o
    Favourite QhpFny3o
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 12:35 PM

    Is this the one where Jesus sells out and goes on the XFactor? And people starting using him in advertisements?

    8
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Christine Astrospirit Klein
    Favourite Christine Astrospirit Klein
    Report
    Nov 23rd 2012, 10:37 AM

    Whhoohhoooo the catholic church starts loosing its power and bad bad things come out – quickly lets write a book to regain the control and write it how we need it!!!! If you look into history it is KNOWN that Jesus was not the long haired bark made sandals wearing angel walking the earth but a real “hippy” with NEW AGE ideas for his time like Hiippies for example and he NEVER had the intention to build a religion! He was an amazing guy and was very lonely as he was never taken serious and ridicouled – really nothing has changed today! So the bible is man made, church made and power made anyway – but that is not allowed to say of course! But people who are openminded and DARE to look over the borders for once will know that anyway!!! All power and fear of thinking for yourself by people panickly holding on to the catholic church, churches in general!!!
    I wait now for HOW many thumbs down I will get ;-)

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Eileen Fahy
    Favourite Eileen Fahy
    Report
    Nov 23rd 2012, 12:03 AM

    I suspect that the majority of comments concerning the existence/non-existence of Jesus Christ lack substantial evidence. It would be interesting to know how many of those offering opinions have actually spent years researching theological commentary to ascertain the whether their notions are justified. Until they have, it would be polite not to ‘assume’ that their somewhat immature perceptions are correct.

    6
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Chris Dunphy
    Favourite Chris Dunphy
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 1:59 PM

    Interesting that the Pope not only acknowledges errors in the Bible but chooses to correct them. As for Monsignor Georg Gaenswin, let me quote my son: “I’ll say this for the Pope – he had nice taste in men. His fella is kinda hawt.”

    5
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Paul
    Favourite Paul
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 5:31 PM

    I was living in Rome when Benny got his pointy hat and red prada shoes. It was kinda common knowledge about him and wotsisface :)

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute johan Bán
    Favourite johan Bán
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 10:16 PM

    lol jesus: What adults cling to once they find out santa clause is a mother gooserie. Fairy Tale. Lie.. meh

    4
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Gerry McDonnell
    Favourite Gerry McDonnell
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 11:40 PM

    Was the sheep taken out of the story because they were sexually abused? I reckon it’s another cover up!

    2
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Pat Mulcahy
    Favourite Pat Mulcahy
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 7:21 PM

    that’d be the same as Sherlock Holmes’ biography.

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute McNamees On TheGreen
    Favourite McNamees On TheGreen
    Report
    Nov 22nd 2012, 10:38 PM

    John Prine released Jesus the missing years already. !

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Gerry McCormack
    Favourite Gerry McCormack
    Report
    Jan 11th 2013, 1:49 PM

    Well I’m a father too. But only Bono thinks he’s God well actually Michael O’Leary does too. To believe this stuff is like believing in fairies or Santa clause. Bull. Thank God I’m an atheist

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Muiris O'Daltuin
    Favourite Muiris O'Daltuin
    Report
    Nov 23rd 2012, 1:09 PM

    This whiffs of desperation. Only celebs release paperback books in time for the Christmas rush, not Popes. Will he be doing signing in Easons?

    1
    Install the app to use these features.
    Mute Lesley Harpur O Connell
    Favourite Lesley Harpur O Connell
    Report
    Nov 23rd 2012, 8:18 AM

    Bit Like Irish History changed to suit by revisionists..

    1
Submit a report
Please help us understand how this comment violates our community guidelines.
Thank you for the feedback
Your feedback has been sent to our team for review.
JournalTv
News in 60 seconds