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The current setup of Ireland's European constituencies - a setup which cannot be maintained if Ireland is to lose one MEP.

How will constituencies change now that Ireland’s losing an MEP?

Ireland’s representation in the European Parliament will be one person fewer next year. So who’ll get cut?

THE DECISION by a key European Parliament committee to redesign the makeup of the parliament from next year’s elections means Ireland is almost certain to lose one of its 12 seats.

The arrival of Croatia within the EU means the parliament is stretched to its upper limit of 751 members, and seats need to be reapportioned from countries across the continent to make room for the 11 Croatian MEPs being elected in June 2014.

Aside from presenting political problems for the sitting MEPs – obviously, 12 into 11 won’t go – the news of the inevitable loss presents a handful of new problems for those responsible for designing Ireland’s constituencies.

A Constituency Commission was formed last year to take input from the public on how to reform the European constituencies, alongside the Dáil ones – but its terms of reference overlooked the difficulties of Croatia’s accession and assumed Ireland would get to keep its 12 seats.

The commission duly recommended no change to the current design – something which will need a major adjustment now that Ireland has gone from 12 to 11.

Although Ireland started out life in the European Parliament with 15 MEPs, the layout of our constituencies haven’t needed much revision whenever we’ve lost places to make room for new entrants – but this time the terms will be significantly different.

An unparalleled adjustment

The general guidelines for the size of Irish constituencies are laid out in electoral laws dating back to 1997, which establish the Constituency Commission in the first place. The same part of the Act governs how Dáil and European constituencies are set up – and, importantly, sets the same criteria for each.

This means that, just like the constituencies for elections to the Dáil, European constituencies have to elect between three and five seats.

This is a particularly crucial development: As it stands, having four constituencies with three MEPs happily satisfies these criteria. Reducing the overall number to 11, however, would mean having one constituency with only two MEPs – a system that simply won’t suffice.

The only option is to radically redraw the boundaries and split the country into three.

So how might that be done?

The role of regional assemblies

One of the government announcements that didn’t get much notice last year was the government’s announcement on the reforming of Ireland’s eight regional authorities and assemblies. These are fora comprised of councillors from local authorities, and one of their tasks is to oversee spending from the EU’s structural funds.

When Phil Hogan announced plans to reform local councils last year he also tabled plans to rationalise these assemblies, from eight to three – suggesting, perhaps, that the same structures could be replicated at European level.

Not so, however – a quick look at the proposals (which controversially ask Dublin to share an authority with three-quarters of Leinster) shows that the populations covered by each case are simply incompatible with European constituencies.

This is simply because the setup proposed by Hogan means almost half of the Irish population is under the jurisdiction of one authority (the Eastern-Midland one, which includes all of Leinster except Carlow, Kilkenny and Wexford), while less than a fifth is under the Connacht-Ulster one.

In order to appropriately reflect the balance of population you’d again need to create a two-seat constituency – which simply cannot be done under current law. So that idea goes out the window.

Which to keep, and which to scrap

The question therefore arises about how best to minimise the disruption of redrawing all the boundaries. It doesn’t serve any major purpose to disrupt the entire country’s knowledge of their constituency or MEP, and successive commissions have always opted against large changes simply for the sake of it.

So, let’s start by examining the constituencies as they currently stand.

Here we have the traditional county Dublin, all of Munster (minus Clare) making the South, the rest of Leinster (minus Longford and Westmeath) making up East, and the rest of the country – the ‘Border, Midlands and West’ (BMW) region – named as ‘North West‘. Each constituency currently has 3 MEPs.

If there must be three constituencies, they’ll need to be split either on a 5-3-3 or 4-4-3 basis.

So – what are the options?

Option A – the 5-3-3 model

This might perhaps be the most controversial of all – splitting up the Leinster territory among the three other constituencies, as if it were the spoils of war, while also diluting the singular power of Dublin.

The historical County Dublin would lose the three-seater it holds to itself, expanding to a five-seater but also incorporating Louth, Meath, Kildare, Wicklow, Carlow and Wexford.

The remainder of the country could be lobbed into two 3-seat halves – the south containing all of Munster with the addition of Kilkenny (something hurling fans already believe to be the case anyway…) and with the midland counties of Leinster being attached to Connacht and Ulster.

Going by Census 2011, this would give the five-seat constituency 46.3% of the Irish population (almost exactly 5 out of 11), with the north taking 26.5% and the south 27.2%.

This has pros and cons – one advantage being it dilutes the standalone power of Dublin, which some would argue is already adequately served as a capital city anyway.

A possible con is that the giant five-seat territory along the east could end up becoming Dublin-centric anyway – with the political parties fielding candidates from the capital with running mates from outside simply to mop up some extra votes.

Option B – Leave Dublin alone, and carve the rest

This provides the minimal disruption from the current situation – leaving Dublin as a standalone three-seater (with 27.7% of the population)  and chopping the country into slightly unequal halves.

This would see all of Munster joined with Carlow, Kilkenny and Wexford – turning the southern constituency into a four-seater (33.6%) – with the rest of the country another four-seater (38.6%).

This has the advantage of offering the least tumult in transition – keeping Dublin precisely as-is, and only marginally expanding the south – but it does mean that the two new constituencies become particularly unwieldy.

The North-West constituency, which already straddles all four provinces, would now stretch from Donegal to Wicklow, and Galway to Louth – a territory that has little in common in terms of social identity, and which would become a mammoth task for a single MEP to have to represent.

The large geography also means that the Irish sensibility of having a ‘local’ MEP is destroyed: a major constituency like this could find its MEPs concentrated in the Meath-Kildare area and in Galway.

Furthermore, this could arguably fail the legal demand of ensuring “reasonable equality of representation as between constituencies”, given the jump in populations between the two four-seaters.

Switching Laois into the south could address this but also create an ugly jaunt, while attaching Laois to a region it does not naturally identify with.

Option 3: Give Dublin four seats (and more territory), and split the difference

This option involves incremental changes to all three of the Dublin-north-south constituencies.

The ‘Greater Dublin area’ (the four Dublin councils, plus Meath, Kildare and Wicklow) are added to Louth to make a single four-seater (with 39.3% of the population).

The rest of the country is split along in a fairly straight line from Wexford to Clare – adding Wexford, Carlow and Kilkenny into Munster (4 seats, 33.6% ) and the rest with 3 (27.1%).

While this has the most cosmetic benefit – it splits the country into three largely manageable chunks – it has some serious population flaws. The southern region manages to escape with one MEP for every 385,000 people – while the northern half only gets one for every 414,000, and Dublin merely one for every 451,000.

The imbalance between the north and south could ideally have been solved by putting North Tipperary into the northern half, but this is not feasible given that the Dáil constituencies are now being merged, and the county councils themselves are being reunified from the next European election.

There are no easy solutions to the muddle – but thankfully the next Constituency Commission won’t have to be convened immediately: the plans to reapportion MEPs between member states must first be approved by the European Parliament as a whole, and then by the head of every EU government.

This could take a few months – giving prospective members time to meditate on the options.

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    Mute Nigel O'Neill
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:30 PM

    Its ok..SIPTU have a travel ‘slush’ fund from the HSE that they can aptly use here to pay this

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    Mute Darren Doheny
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    Mar 19th 2014, 2:06 PM

    Fantastic ruling!.. Finally moving forward away from ruthless unions that will not see common sense and sit down to negotiate reasonable outcomes!

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    Mute Michael Coughlan
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    Mar 19th 2014, 2:23 PM

    Delighted for SIPTU, the people running this turncoat of a union have been getting fat of the backs of the working class for to long and past governments only to happy to accommodate them for an easy life!!..Just wonder what sort of spin they going to put on this ruling!

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    Mute Kate Ellen Egan
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    Mar 19th 2014, 4:00 PM

    Great !!! Two faced millionaires !

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    Mute Shaun Sweeney
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:34 PM

    another nail in the coffin of workers rights

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    Mute Jeremy Usbourne
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:38 PM

    Empty rhetoric.

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    Mute The Doctor
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:38 PM

    Another clown who hasn’t got a clue…

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    Mute Shaun Sweeney
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    Mar 19th 2014, 2:28 PM

    so some one you dont agree with is automatically a clown,very mature

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    Mute The Doctor
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    Mar 19th 2014, 3:26 PM

    Nope, just the ones who buy into siptu lies.

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    Mute Shaun Sweeney
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    Mar 19th 2014, 5:13 PM

    i’m not buying into anybody’s lies i am simply expressing a personal opinion on the constant erosion of workers rights and entitlements.i believe i have a right to do so without being insulted by an ignorant coward such as yourself

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    Mute Marie McCormack
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    Mar 19th 2014, 5:15 PM

    True Shauna. They are just immature yet to realize the consequences. When they wake up with no workers’ rights one day (by the way, those rights where given to you bu unions) then they will start thinking with their heads.

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    Mute Giuseppe
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:44 PM

    Ryanair winning a legal action and getting cost ? That’s more rare then one of there staff smiling. Must be some surreal feelings going around Ryanair head office today….

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    Mute Kevin Higgins
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:24 PM

    This is absolutely sick. Do not want to live in a country like this

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    Mute Cian O Donoghue
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:29 PM

    Shur grab a plane and leave. .. oh… wait…

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    Mute Suzanne Chase
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:29 PM

    Well now that the strike has been called off/delayed, you can easily hop on a flight out of here if you so wish

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    Mute Richard Rodgers
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:31 PM

    Kevin
    You seem to have a difficulty with both the Rule of Law and it’s application within a Democratic State. Could I suggest that you consider relocating to another jurisdiction where you might appreciate what we have her in Ireland. I am of course prepared to provide you with a list of countries where such learning could be instructive and immediate.
    Try…..Russia North Korea Somalia Congo Cuba etc etc etc

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    Mute Coddler O Toole
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    Mar 19th 2014, 2:03 PM

    Our Minister for Justice and Garda Commissioner seem to have great difficulty with the rule of law and it’s application in a democratic state. Any travel suggestions for that pair Richie?

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    Mute Jason Davis
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    Mar 19th 2014, 2:38 PM

    Why? Because a strike was averted? A strike that would have been very costly to the exchequer and to our image over our national holiday. DAA and FR did the right thing and the court acted correctly.

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    Mute Joe The Man
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    Mar 19th 2014, 2:48 PM

    Bye!

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    Mute Liam Lawless
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    Mar 19th 2014, 4:54 PM

    Don’t see the problem here. The courts ruled against them. Maybe if they had a good legal team they would realise the action against was going to succeed.

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Mar 19th 2014, 8:04 PM

    There hasn’t been a trial yet.

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    Mute Brian
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    Mar 19th 2014, 3:14 PM

    Anyone who thinks this is a good thing is deluded. 3 years of talks went on with no resolution before there was a whisper of industrial strife. The working persons right to withdraw labour has been taken away by the courts and now the unions are penalised after they followed all procedures laid down. It’s a black day for anyone not at management level in the workforce. And before people jump on the “pampered semi state workers” bandwagon, joining this pension scheme, good or bad was a condition of employment so the workers had no choice and are still paying into it today. Iv been trawling the French papers, can’t seem to find the article where aerlingus and Ryanair are taking the air traffic controllers to court, strange!

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    Mute Wayne O'Fathaigh
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    Mar 19th 2014, 3:58 PM

    The value of your investment may go up or down, that is no justification or an enshrined legal reason for people to strike

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    Mute Test Tube Life
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    Mar 19th 2014, 4:12 PM

    So if you bought 100 shares in Ryanair and when you go to sell them you discover you only own 80 shares, then that’s ok is it?

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    Mute Wayne O'Fathaigh
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    Mar 19th 2014, 4:27 PM

    No but if I buy 100 shares at €70 per share and I go to sell them and they are worth €60 per share that is the risk.

    Come on you are better than that defined benefit schemes destroyed Detroit and it’s industries and if you can find someone that starts a job now and can get one.

    On the other side the union could get their way the pension scheme will pay out and the company will go busy before the end of the decade

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    Mute Chris Mcdonnell
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    Mar 19th 2014, 4:31 PM

    Take a jump Brian. These people sought to hold the country to ransom. They tries hurt thousands who’d had left the country and tried to get home to see their families.
    They tried to blackmail all the small business around the country who depend on tourist days like paddy’s
    Never mind the reputation if the country around the world on its most famous day.
    They could have picked a ordinary Tuesday to strike but no they wanted to damage the country as much as possible.
    No matter how valid their cause they should not try hurt ordinary people in searching for a result of their problem.
    Personally I’d disband unions as they only represent the top cats within that union and not one single care for the ordinary workers, their families or the general community they live in.

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    Mute Colm Phelan
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    Mar 19th 2014, 5:25 PM

    I shed a tear for all you that wanted to strike on paddies weekend
    If it was another weekend you would have some sympathy but right now you got what you deserved
    Also are you aware of the salary scales of your beloved union leaders
    It makes rehab look like lidl

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    Mute Not Victor Meldrew
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    Mar 19th 2014, 10:06 PM

    We’ll said Brian. 100%correct – Ryanair have been very quiet during this pension dispute – too busy rubbing their hands in glee at the potential demise of trade unionism in this country, whether people subscribe to trade unions or not many workers enjoy better working conditions and pay because of trade unions.
    No injunction sought against the French Air Traffic Controllers for the losses they incurred – !

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    Mute Not Victor Meldrew
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    Mar 19th 2014, 10:41 PM

    @chris. Put yourself in the airport workers shoes Chris, what would you do ? Just roll over and accept it without a whimper. These workers have spent over 3 years using all the industrial relations mechanisms possible to no avail, meanwhile for every €1 they are forced to put in they are looking at getting just over 10c back – fair exchange ? Don’t think anyone can honestly agree with that if they were in the same situation

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    Mute D
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    Mar 19th 2014, 1:23 PM

    I feel serious all out strikes on the way …

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Mar 19th 2014, 2:32 PM

    Lets take a look at this more closely: a stay on costs pending the trial means that there has to be a trial on the issue of whether SIPTU were entitled to strike, otherwise the costs won’t be payable?
    This is going to be a lot bigger than DAA Ryanair or Aer Lingus would like it to be, because fundamental principals are at stake. Of course, if there is no trial I expect no costs will be payable, because the applicants will have withdrawn their action.

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    Mute Not Victor Meldrew
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    Mar 19th 2014, 10:00 PM

    We’ll said Paul Roche, at last someone who has some real perspective and a grasp of the seriousness of this issue for all workers who are members of trade unions in this country.

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    Mute Paul Roche
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    Mar 19th 2014, 10:11 PM

    Thanks ehhh… whoever you are,
    But I have to say I’m not a fan of SIPTU (or many other unions) leadership.
    The constitutional principals are what I support, in the hope that the Unions will get it right eventually… Lets just say I see it as a door that should not be closed.

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    Mute Bill
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    Mar 19th 2014, 7:25 PM

    Notice all the anti worker comments written throughout the day by the work shy wasters

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    Mute Joe The Man
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    Mar 19th 2014, 2:47 PM

    It just gets better!

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    Mute Angela Roche Reville
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    Mar 19th 2014, 9:54 PM

    My husband is in the private sector and he lost his defined benefit pension after 15 years because it was no longer affordable. The company switched him to a “regular” plan. Did he threaten to strike? No, he just got on with his job. SIPTU can take a run and jump.

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    Mute Not Victor Meldrew
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    Mar 19th 2014, 10:44 PM

    What’s a regular plan . .?

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    Mute Giuseppe
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    Mar 20th 2014, 1:53 AM

    What’s that you say ? begrudgery ? If it happens to me it should happen to everyone else is it ?.
    I’d say ye should maybe tell everyone what happened to your husbands pension and try teach people not to let the same thing happen to them….

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    Mute Nigel O Keeffe
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    Mar 19th 2014, 5:45 PM

    Just curious..does anyone know if Ryanair/Aerlingus are taking legal proceedings in France? Wouldnt they have also lost money with the air traffic controllers strike.!

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    Mute Kian David Griffin
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    Mar 19th 2014, 6:46 PM

    Not on the same scale.

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    Mute Dermot O'Reilly
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    Mar 19th 2014, 11:35 PM

    SIPTU should also compensate Aer Lingus and Ryanair for losses incurred by their stupid and totally unnecessary strike!

    Government must legislate to ban unnecessary strikes!

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    Mute Leo Massey
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    Mar 19th 2014, 9:55 PM

    Is it now illegal to strike in this country?

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    Mute richardmccarthy
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    Mar 19th 2014, 11:58 PM

    It should be made illegal to attempt to cause massive disruption to peoples lives and damage the wider economy of the country just to further your own aims.

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    Mute Leo Massey
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    Mar 20th 2014, 12:05 AM

    Ok, but is it now illegal to strike in this country?

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    Mute CMac59
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    Mar 19th 2014, 8:00 PM

    The unions once served a good purpose. For quite a while that has not been the case.

    They and many employers need to be brought doew to size.

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