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The Irish pay gap has narrowed - but it still exists

Women are paid 14.4% less across all sectors.

IRISH WOMEN HAVE closed the pay gap in many managerial positions, but are still paid 14.4% less than men across the board.

Women working menial or supporting jobs face a much wider gap according to new figures from the Wage Indicator Foundation.

Among executives, senior officials, legislators, science and engineering professionals women on average earn 8-11% less than their male colleagues, according to the stats. In the building and related trades professions (excluding electricians), and even as stationary plant and machine operators they are faced with a gender pay gap of only 6%.

A national average, compiled with 2013 data by Eurostat, indicates a gender pay gap of 14.4%.

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The gender pay gap is defined as unequal pay for work of equal value which is performed with the same skills and qualifications.

In the European context, Ireland ranks better than the EU28 average of 16.3% but almost double that of Italy and Hungary and more than double that of Slovenia, Poland and Malta. It is highest in Estonia, Austria and Czech Republic.

The European Commission (EC) says that a number of factors contribute to the gender pay gap.

Namely that many management jobs are held almost exclusively by men, which skews entire sectors. The CEO pay gap is around 4%.

It adds that unpaid work in the home is taken up by women on a 3:1 ratio, meaning that many women reduce their hours to part-time. Added to that, women spend more time out of the labour market. These interruptions influence hourly pay and future earnings. The EC also says the labour market is segregated:

“This means that in some sectors and occupations, women tend to be overrepresented, while in others men are overrepresented. In some countries, occupations predominantly carried out by women, such as teaching or sales, offer lower wages than occupations predominantly carried out by men, even when the same level of experience and education is needed.”

The EC adds that the final reason for the wage gap is wage discrimination which, while illegal, still happens in some places.

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    Mute Welshhibby
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 6:15 AM

    Ah the mythical gender pay gay which has been debunked so many times but won’t die.

    If anyone has any evidence a man is being paid more than a woman for the same job and same experience based purely on gender please report it to the guards, it’s illegal.

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    Mute Teddington
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 6:49 AM

    This is 100% my stance! I’ve never in my life come across this situation and if anyone finds themselves in it they should certainly make a point of reporting the employer to the relevant authorities! Until someone can provide evidence I will treat this nonsense with the apathy it deserves.

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    Mute Stephen Duffy
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 7:00 AM

    Spot on. It is entirely mythical.

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    Mute Socrates Is Alive
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:05 AM

    I’ve seen it. I’ve been paid more than women who have been in the job years longer. And before you make excuses, it was because they didn’t have testicles…

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    Mute Boganity
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:07 AM

    Wait for it….every comment will be from a man

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    Mute Welshhibby
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:38 AM

    @socrates you should have reported it, it’s illegal.

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    Mute Scarr
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:41 AM

    Socrates – so why would that scenario occur?

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    Mute Drew TheChinaman :)
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:58 AM

    Me too… I was better at my job.

    I also pushed management to move away from tenure and more towards performance based pay.

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    Mute Socrates Is Alive
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:14 AM

    It occurred because the boss loved his little boys club. He even fired women for having an opposing view, whereas he’d have screaming rows win other blokes and then bring them for boozy lunches when he was done. All senior staff were men and all wanted to keep it that way it seems.

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    Mute cholly appleseed
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:49 AM

    I call bs. Why didn’t you report him so

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    Mute cholly appleseed
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:49 AM

    Socrates watching too much mad men again

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    Mute Old Gabby Johnson
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 12:21 PM

    Socrates also women give birth and once you train them in they take the guts of a year off.. so that means retraining someone else – it’s cheaper and more productive to go with a man.

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    Mute Socrates Is Alive
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 6:33 PM

    No BS, and the chain of command were all his mates so reporting it would have meant getting the chop myself. I notice you need to pretend I’m lying to further your belief that its a myth, but as Gabbys comment shows, many rule women out in case they have kids.

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    Mute Malachi
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 9:01 PM

    Socrates, you don’t report it through the chain of command, you report it to the authorities. It’s illegal, end of.

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    Mute Fiona Fitzgerald
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    Apr 24th 2016, 4:34 PM

    A man who will die younger and suffer more illnesses, despite not risking his life giving birth? Try to be a bit less biased.

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    Mute Marg murphy
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 7:37 AM

    This old canard again. Every couple of weeks we get an article suggesting female oppression because women don’t get paid the same as men. Once again….for the same job, for the same hours…they get paid the same. If they job share or work part time , they will earn less. And as long as more women choose to be air hostesses and more men choose to,be airline pilots then there will be a general pay gap too. But a female pilot and a male pilot get paid the same as do a female hostess and a a male one.

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    Mute Boganity
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:05 AM

    They’re called cabin crew, have been for at least the last 20 years. As for “choose to be a pilot”, Its not about “choice” it’s about coming up with the €100 plus to pay for your training.

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    Mute Scarr
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:35 AM

    Wow, a whole €100? Maybe we can do a whip-round?

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    Mute the phantom
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 9:05 AM

    How is it easier for men to pony up the money to be a pilot than a woman? I assume you meant €100k btw.

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    Mute Marg murphy
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:29 AM

    Cabin crew it is.

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    Mute cholly appleseed
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:32 AM

    Aerial lingua pilot cadet programme is free and equal. No 100k required

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    Mute Warthog
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:35 AM

    OMG more “Victimhood Culture” get over yourselves – take your head out of the bucket man up, sorry woman up and get on with life!

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    Mute Scarr
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 6:51 AM

    The myth that will not die. Confusing pay and earnings.

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    Mute Robert Cummins
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 6:54 AM

    Why is this ridiculous myth that has been debunked many times still allowed to be published as fact by the media? Women on average choose lower paying professions than men, worker fewer hours, take longer holidays and the big one, take years out of work to have kids. Discrimination has nothing to do with it and it would make no sense to. Capitalism is colour and gender blind. If a company could save money by exclusively hiring women then that is exactly what they would be doing

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    Mute Peter Buchanan
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 7:17 AM

    This is what happens when you take one year off every time you have a child….

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    Mute Boganity
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 7:56 AM

    Whow…how are things back there in the 1950′s Peter ?

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    Mute Karl Haycock
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:08 AM

    Why write an article on the paygap when it’s been proven to be non-existant? What’s next, an exposition on how the world is really flat?

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:27 AM

    You never read the article did you…I can you tell didn’t

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    Mute Karl Haycock
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 9:28 AM

    I did actually – but quite simply the paygap does not exist when you account for differences in occupations, positions, education, job tenure or hours worked per week. There is a reason why no credible economist touches this issue with a 10-foot barge pole, as it would be a waste of time.

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 9:40 AM

    true karl, Not one credible economist takes the gender pay gap seriously.

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    Mute Ronan P Butler
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 6:44 AM

    Cristina Hoff Sommers – a feminist economist

    Thomas Sowell – a much heralded economist

    Two people to Google or youtube that can explain exactly how the numbers should be looked at in these data sets versus how it is presented to us to perpetuate this feminist agenda myth. Sowell discredited systemic racial AND gender based pay discrimination as far back as the eighties. Anyone with an interest in this, and that should be all of us, should have a look at the work of these two. There are others, but these two are the most articulate.

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    Mute Marg murphy
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 9:50 AM

    Thanks for that. will make interesting reading .

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    Mute Gaucho Doyle
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 9:56 AM

    If you feel you are being discriminates against due to your gender and not because you do less work then it is illegal and you can make a claim under the
    Equal Status Act. First send an ES1 form to the company outlining your complaint and if you do not recieve a satisfactory response within a month you can fill out an ES2 form and make your complaint to the work place relations commision.

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    Mute Old Gabby Johnson
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 12:23 PM

    What about women getting a year off to have a baby? – hardly equal.

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    Mute Gaucho Doyle
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 12:55 PM

    Female privileges are excluded by the Equal Status Act because they are introduced through legislation and Acts of the oireachtas are exempt which means the government can discriminate against men, the young and the old all they want ie The Finance Act or the Social Welfare Act.

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    Mute Conor O'Neill
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 1:00 PM

    Women talk all day and gossip . Where as men do the work . Maybe they is a reason for a pay gap !

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    Mute Old Gabby Johnson
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 1:04 PM

    @conor also they wear skirts and tight fitting blouses which distract us men from doing our work.. which leads to a lack of productivity.

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    Mute Ms. Shannon Napier
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 10:46 AM

    It is ILLEGAL to be paid less due to things such as gender, sexuality, religion or so on. But by experience, or the amount of hours you work – part time or full time then it is acceptable. I don’t expect to get paid for 40 hours of work if I only worked 30. I don’t expect to get paid the same as someone who has been in the position longer and thus has asked for and received a raise.
    This is worse than the “gender quotas” crap.

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    Mute Patitas
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 7:26 AM

    The real pay gap is between public and private sector… Sick of subsidising bums with my taxes…. And I am excluding the Luas driver, as those belong to a different category all together…

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    Mute Scarr
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 7:45 AM

    Yeah, bloody doctors.

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    Mute Sue O'Brien
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 2:11 PM

    Women are payed 14.4% less across all sectors. The hint is in the headline. They didn’t take any actual figures into account. Women do generally get payed less, because we make different choices. It’s not a bad thing. This is just a ridiculous feminist agenda that won’t die and it’s disappointing to see the media constantly pandering to these whingers.

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    Mute Cathal Healy
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 2:31 PM

    It’s funny how they never mention the workplace death gap. That gap is only in or around 90%.

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    Mute Josephine Sweeney
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 6:27 AM

    That’s terrible, no wonder I’m broke each month before pay day

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    Mute Zx5vZulB
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 9:50 AM

    Women are priveleged to give birth to 100% of the world’s population, pretty amazing natrual advantage conferred on the fairer gender I would say.

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    Mute Boganity
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 7:54 AM

    I think I stumbled across an MRA meeting !

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    Mute Socrates Is Alive
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:06 AM

    You surely did. If they don’t like it, it can’t be real…

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    Mute Drew TheChinaman :)
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:21 AM

    Ahhh yes MRA… A desperate attempt by certain people to force the opposition to surrender to their point of view by forcing a black and white perspective (with us or against) and clouding the argument with guilt and emotion. (Do you not believe women are as worthy).

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:21 AM

    The article clearly state it’s about Managerial positions but the MRA’s are citing subordinate roles as examples…chalk and cheese

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:37 AM

    I recommend you educate yourself on this rather than believing Feminists myths.

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    Mute Scarr
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 8:39 AM

    Yes. Damn all those for not believing previosly debunked stats. Hilarious. :)

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    Apr 22nd 2016, 3:33 PM

    Many say the pay gap is a result of the maternity leave which women are given. The solution, give men the same amount of paternity leave. Remove the incentive for companies to pay women less while also allowing father’s to spend more time with their newborn children. Everyone wins.

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    Mute Socrates Is Alive
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 6:35 PM

    I fully support that idea and have tried to champion a shared parental leave that the parents split however they see fit, but it gets a lot of resistance from some men. With no real explanation either.

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    Mute Michael Sands
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    Apr 22nd 2016, 11:07 PM

    When they said gap, I thought Luas lol.

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