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To our commenter community: Making your space a more inviting place

Journal Media is rolling out new features to improve your comments experience.

HERE AT TheJournal.ie, we have always understood comments to be part of the lifeblood of our users’ experience.

Online news consumers expect meaningful engagement with the issues of the day. From our inception in 2010, we have encouraged our users to have a proactive relationship with the news agenda. Central to that is our comments section.

Our commenting community is at its best when its members add to the sum of the conversation with their personal experiences and insights.

We don’t expect users to agree on everything. We don’t expect all commenters’ interests to reflect the editorial choices made by our journalistic team. We don’t expect everyone who comes to Journal Media publications to have the same outlook on the world. It would be a very dull public platform if there was no debate, no feedback, no new information brought to the table.

We do, however, expect those with commenting privileges on our publications to subscribe to our standards in taste, decency and civility.

For our part, Journal Media is today rolling out a series of changes to the comments section to enhance your experience there.

New comments tools

These new features are designed to allow you more control over your comments section. Our iOS and Android app users will be able to use these tools as soon as they update to the latest version of their app.

The first important change you may notice is that we are putting more context in place around commenters themselves. Members who have been logged in as part of the comments community for six months or more will be given a time badge to indicate their longevity on site (these will read 6m, 1y, 2y, 3y and so on).

In this comment for example, you can see that Gillian has been in the community for four years, and the app user has chosen to favourite her comments so they appear more prominently in their feed (denoted by the megaphone symbol, next to the ’4y’ badge):

We are also empowering our users to see more of the content they like, and less of the content they don’t enjoy in the comments section:

If you want to reward good commenting behaviour, you will continue to be able to give individual comments an ‘upvote’. These upvotes will be one of several factors taken into consideration in the ordering of comments underneath a post.

We have also partnered with a Google Jigsaw start-up called Perspective on a ‘toxicity-rating’ project. This helps our system identify and downgrade comments which contain elements – foul language, generalised abuse – that have previously been flagged as a block to good debate.

The more activity from our commenting community on these tools, the more consistent and accurate the feedback to our system on what kind of content you value most on the comments section.

In the new-look comments section, you will also notice an arrow on the right of each individual comment. Clicking on this will lead to a dropdown menu. In here you can choose ‘favourite commenter’ to see that particular commenter’s contributions more often in your comments threads.

If you see commenting behaviour that you do not like, we want to better equip you to take action. TheJournal.ie users already frequently demonstrate that if they see something they don’t enjoy – either on the site itself or on our comments platform – they do not let it go unchallenged.

That is a welcome trait and we have been working on some new features to better focus your feedback in this area.

You will notice that the old ‘downvote’ thumb has disappeared. In its place are three options to diminish comments you feel flout our community guidelines.

Using the dropdown menu mentioned above, you will now be able to choose to either hide an individual comment so it disappears from your view.

You will be also able to mute a commenter entirely so that you will no longer see their contributions.

We have also given increased prominence to our ‘report comments’ tools by moving them into that same menu. You can flag a comment as defamatory or you can flag a comment as offensive – you will be asked to outline how you think the comment flouts our comments community guidelines so that our team can assess the situation.

This is what the new dropdown menu looks like:

Just the beginning

Journal Media sites - TheJournal.ie, The42, DailyEdge and Fora - attract 3,000+ comments on a daily basis. The community represents a wide range of opinions and outlooks and we think that diversity is vital to debate.

We also want people to feel included and respected. Today’s announced changes are just the beginning of ongoing development and research into making our comments platforms an inviting, entertaining and, sometimes, we hope, enlightening space.

We welcome all feedback to hello@thejournal.ie – it all helps towards our common goal of having more enjoyable and informed conversations.

Commenting guidelines

This is the point at which it is worth reminding you of the commenting standards to which Journal Media expects its users to observe.

  • Play the ball, not the player: Do not make personal remarks about the author of a story, about individuals mentioned in stories, or about other commenters. We encourage committed and passionate debate, but ad-hominem insults or insinuations are not part of this.
  • Be the voice of reason: If all commenters agreed with each other, a comments section would be a dull and unenlightening space. But there are ways to phrase dissent without resorting to foul language, incivility and SHOUTING. Even if you believe what another commenter is saying is unreasonable, express that in a reasonable fashion. Respect each other as human beings.
  • No hate speech: Do not make comments which are racist, sexist, homophobic, offensive on the grounds of religion, nationality or demographic group. This includes generalising about an entire group of people, based on the real or perceived action of individuals from that group. Do not make comments which are threatening or harassing or which could be perceived as such.
  • Do not post defamatory content: Users who are found to have posted defamatory content on any Journal Media comments section will have their commenting privileges withdrawn.
  • Stay on topic: Of course we want discussion to be as wide-ranging as possible, and we understand that conversations can take unexpected turns. But we’d like to make our comments areas a place for people to talk about the topic in front of them. Resorting to generalisations or dragging the comments off on a tangent that is not pertinent is boring and repetitive and kills insightful debate.
  • Don’t be a troll: Having a different viewpoint to other commenters or holding views that are not palatable to all-comers is not trolling if those views are sincerely held. However, don’t be provocative just for the sake of it. Equally, if you feel someone else is being deliberately provocative, don’t respond – it only encourages them. If you feel strongly that comments made by another user are deeply offensive as outlined in these guidelines, let us know by reporting the comment in the dropdown menu detailed at the top of this document.
  • Safeguard personal information: Don’t post sensitive personal information or the personal details of others in our comments section. Be privacy- and safety-mindful at all times.
  • This is not a marketplace: We welcome links in our comments sections which add context or extra information to the debate at hand. Do not use comments to promote commercial products or services.

These guidelines, and other information on our comments policy, are publicly available here.

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    Mute Colin Byrne
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    Jan 28th 2016, 12:44 PM

    Man, this guy just can’t help defending lost causes.

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    Mute Peter Kavanagh
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    Jan 28th 2016, 4:13 PM

    And the internet has just been won.

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    Mute Back Post Assassin
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    Jan 28th 2016, 4:30 PM

    I tip my hat to you sir!

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    Mute Shane Cormican
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    Jan 28th 2016, 4:48 PM

    Maximum reflect deserves quote of the year!!!!!

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    Mute Kieran Stafford
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    Jan 28th 2016, 7:58 PM

    Hahaha. Funniest comment in a long time no here

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    Mute Fizzy O'Terrapy
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    Jan 28th 2016, 8:21 PM

    That is pure brilliance right there ^

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    Mute Oran Joyce
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    Jan 28th 2016, 8:55 PM

    @Colin.
    Comment of the year.
    Chapeau.

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    Mute Jon Coll
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    Jan 28th 2016, 8:56 PM

    Funniest comment here in about a year

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    Mute Anonymous Man
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    Jan 28th 2016, 10:08 PM

    I love you.

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    Mute Berni Kelly Kindregan
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    Jan 28th 2016, 11:42 PM

    Best comment EVER !!!

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    Mute L-Plate
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    Jan 29th 2016, 12:01 AM

    I think they all have lovely comments

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    Mute The Pope
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    Jan 29th 2016, 1:37 AM

    Looks like the damage limitation RTE crowd contacted Strang in desperation because of the massive fallout of that awful interview, and it looks like Ray’s family and friends have been the only ones thumbing these comments down – sure who else could it have been? – anyway, did I tell you how Jenny this and Jenny that got this that and the udder the udder day…?

    - just shut the fu ck up Ray you insufferable bore about you and your ascetic and boring empty life!

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    Mute Shelly Levine
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    Jan 28th 2016, 12:44 PM

    The man (Strang) is a gentleman. But that doesn’t detract from the fact Darcy is a tit.

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    Mute Neal Ireland Hello
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    Jan 28th 2016, 1:43 PM

    I understand why these lawyers have to defend murderers and lowlifes as part of the advocacy system, but standing up for Ray D’Arcy is a step too far.

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    Mute Nigel O'Neill
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    Jan 28th 2016, 12:47 PM

    People moaning about not seeing the series and having it spoiled by this interview – Why did you watch the interview then!? Ridiculous

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    Mute Moderate Michael
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    Jan 28th 2016, 12:52 PM

    The person who made that point had already watched it.

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    Mute Moderate Michael
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    Jan 28th 2016, 12:45 PM

    Not everybody has Netflix nor the bandwidth to support it. The majority of people who watch talk shows are older, and are generally less familiar with the likes of online streaming. Lots of people, including myself, couldn’t be bothered watching a 10 hour documentary about a murder case. Sure, we have a passing interest from what they have heard of people taking about it, but they ain’t going to subscribe to Netflix to watch it. Talk shows don’t have time to delve into the minutia of every topic. I didn’t watch the interview, but my parents did, and they were satisfied and intrigued by the interview. This is just another classic case of Twitter knobs crying into their keyboard.

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    Mute TheBull
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    Jan 28th 2016, 1:26 PM

    A bit like you are doing now, huh?

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    Mute Constance Ní Ghairbh
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    Jan 28th 2016, 1:27 PM

    Sure isn’t that always the case with TheJorunal articles. People with too much time on their hands get offended and tweet about it and suddenly “everyone” is offended or my personal favorite “This happened and everyone went crazy”. Lazy journalism at it’s finest. Glad I’ve ad blocker so they don’t get a cent from me using the site.

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    Mute Alan b
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    Jan 28th 2016, 1:40 PM

    So you expect the journalists to work for free on your behalf?

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    Mute Constance Ní Ghairbh
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    Jan 28th 2016, 1:47 PM

    Not all Journalists, just the ones that scrape the bottom of the barrel. About a year or two ago I’d have considered this to be worth the odd few pense but when you lift articles from blogs and other news sites then well enough said.

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    Mute Alan b
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    Jan 28th 2016, 4:01 PM

    What’s pense?well what are you doing on here if you dislike it so much?

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    Mute Constance Ní Ghairbh
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    Jan 28th 2016, 4:19 PM

    Isn’t it obvious sweetheart?

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    Mute b
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    Jan 28th 2016, 8:36 PM

    You can usually get a week free when you sign up so why not subscribe and watch?

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    Mute John Sheahan
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    Jan 28th 2016, 1:15 PM

    This man can do no wrong.

    Darcy on the other hand…

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    Mute Stephen Ward
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    Jan 28th 2016, 2:10 PM

    Darcy should have conducted the interview on the basis that the viewers have already watched it. Why would you fly a lawyer over from the states just to give a synopsis of a documentary?

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    Mute Alan Farrell
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    Jan 28th 2016, 3:50 PM

    To boost viewers, and it worked too.

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    Mute Stephen Ward
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    Jan 28th 2016, 4:44 PM

    @ Alan they would have tuned in anway

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    Mute tighenberg
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    Jan 28th 2016, 4:39 PM

    D’Arcy had to start talking about his wife..kids mother in law wonder didn’t end up talking about child birth. Tit D’Arcy

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    Mute Derek Mc Donnell
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    Jan 28th 2016, 1:18 PM

    Ray should stick to fix it Friday and might find the truth about the case here .

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    Mute Dave Meagher
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    Jan 28th 2016, 5:41 PM

    Well at least he didn’t bring cycling or his “Rugby career” into it .

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    Mute captain ireland
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    Jan 28th 2016, 3:24 PM

    I haven’t seen it yet , I thought the interview was beneficial to me and Ray did a good job , why does everyone complain and be so negative in this country

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    Mute Owen McDermott
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    Jan 28th 2016, 8:28 PM

    Ray D’arse’y has delusions of grandeur methinks.

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    Mute Desmodromic
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    Jan 28th 2016, 1:35 PM

    I think that a lot of commentators who obviously dislike Ray Darcy are going too far in their criticism. In fact it is cyber abuse pure and simple. Like all radio personalities he has his positive and negative aspects. Personally I didn’t take to the previous radio presenter but that’s my opinion and of no consequence really – that’s life. Personally I think Ray Darcy is doing a good job, I hadn’t seen the subject of the interview so without Ray’s input I would not have grasped the detail.

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    Mute Conor Maher
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    Jan 28th 2016, 2:16 PM

    He is overpaid and extremely self righteous. I think a lot of people are like me and used to be a fan but as time has gone on his constant pontificating and such has really soured my opinion of him.

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    Mute Carlos Bandanas
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    Jan 28th 2016, 6:54 PM

    I think as he’s getting paid half million quid a year of taxpayers money then a bit of criticism for his obvious inadequacy is fair game..

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    Mute anthony campion
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    Jan 28th 2016, 11:44 PM

    Is that you Jenny?

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    Mute Tom Fennelly
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    Jan 29th 2016, 9:20 AM

    Desmodromic, you are correct. Cyber abuse it is, plain and simple, personal attacks from the keyboard warriors. I don’t watch Ray Darcy show, or any TV show on a Friday or Saturday night and last time I checked changing channels from a program I don’t like is fairly simple without resorting to personal attacks and name calling.

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    Jan 28th 2016, 2:40 PM

    Sure this lad is used to defending the indefensible.

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    Mute Elizabeth A. Meacham
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    Jan 28th 2016, 8:31 PM

    Dean seems to enjoy defending guilty men.

    Awful interview.

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    Jan 28th 2016, 11:33 PM

    We had super saturday night when we had Brendan O Connor Bring him back on Saturdays

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    Mute William Ryan
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    Jan 28th 2016, 2:17 PM

    As the saying goes this is a nonstory. If you don’t like it don’t watch it and stop bitching about it.

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    Mute Edward
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    Jan 28th 2016, 7:26 PM

    I would never watch ray Darcy, but I am paying his salary, so am I entitled to review the performance of my employee?

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    Jan 28th 2016, 3:11 PM

    ooo Who’s a bit of a Moderate Michael tonight!!

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    Jan 29th 2016, 12:21 AM

    Ray should know what ??? to ask his guests i.e. What information do viewers want to know.

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    Jan 29th 2016, 1:55 PM

    Colin Byrne….. Comment of the year

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