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'We don't want another deadzone': Outrage over backtrack on housing in new Limerick development

The council said two years ago that the development would include residential units, but new plans do not contain accommodation.


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THERE HAS BEEN criticism of plans for a massive new development in Limerick as it has emerged they do not include any housing, despite an indication from the council two years ago that residential units would be included.

The project was given the go-ahead in 2015, and at the time Limerick City and County Council opened the development to expressions of interest. The council also said in 2015 that the site would be a mix of office, retail, residential and educational units.

However, plans presented to council members in June did not include a provision for accommodation of any kind. ‘Project Opera’ is being undertaken by Limerick Twenty Thirty, a strategic development designated activity company (DAC) tasked with developing a number of key sites in Limerick.

The presentation given to councillors described the site as a “major opportunity for new business activity”. Plans include the construction of four new buildings and the use of four existing buildings for office, retail and cultural use.

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A planning application was submitted in June and the decision to grant it will be made by Limerick City and County Council, which still owns the site.

Local Solidarity councillor Cian Prendiville criticised the new plans and is encouraging residents of Limerick city to make submissions to the council, urging it to include housing on this site.

“It is very good to finally see some progress in terms of this vacant site, six years after the council bought it. However, there is a lot of disappointment with the lack of vision in the proposals,” he said.

The council is proposing to spend €150m building four multi-storey office blocks on this site, and redeveloping four existing buildings, again as offices, with not a single apartment on the site. This is in the middle of a housing crisis, with almost no affordable, quality apartments available in the city centre, and rents already going through the roof. While not everyone wants to live in the city centre, more and more young people in particular are looking for that option.

“The Opera site has the potential to be an amazing project, and a lively space to live, work and socialise in the city. However, we don’t want another deadzone after 6pm, and at weekends.”

Prendiville said the Georgian buildings in particular could be turned into apartments for young people and families who want to live in the city centre. He said he would like to see a mix of quality, affordable and social housing for people to rent or buy.

A video on the councillor’s Facebook page, outlining his objection to these plans, gained traction this week, with a number of Limerick residents expressing their disappointment on his page.

“Cities are for people. The more people who live in the city centre, the more vibrant it becomes after 5pm and the more attractive it becomes for business. The council in Limerick is in a unique position with access to land and money to help ease both the housing crisis and reverse the donut effect which has led to the hollowing out of the city centre,” one said. “The fact that the council are currently proposing to build on a massive site and not facilitate a single home beggars belief”.

“Building high quality social housing in the city centre would actually benefit the businesses in the city,as more people living in the centre means more people shopping, I think that’s a no-brainer really,” another commented.

One man said it was “ridiculous” to build such a large complex in the city centre without any provision for housing. And another said more city centre housing would “inevitably benefit city businesses too”.

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However, some people who reacted to Prendiville’s comments were in favour of the new business development.

“Social affordable housing in the middle of a new development that’s meant to attract new businesses and ventures to Limerick city? Fair enough if there’s apartments there, but don’t think they should be social housing units,” one man said.

“Nope, social housing will drive away any business from investing. Keep them separate it never works. Develop separate areas for both,” another commented.

In response to a query from TheJournal.ie, Limerick Twenty Thirty said it “conducted significant market research” and had “submitted proposed plans based on this – essentially delivering what the market wants”.

“Through that level of investment and resultant employment of up to 3,000 people at the site, we will create the market for residential properties, leading to significant investment in the development of a range of residential sites across Limerick”.

The Opera site scheme will take six years to deliver and Limerick Twenty Thirty said that, in parallel with that, it will be working with relevant stakeholders with regards to Limerick’s residential requirements.

“This will be delivered through a mix of private sector and local authority investment. With regard to the latter, Limerick CCC has received funding from the Local Infrastructure Housing Activation Fund to develop 400 houses in Mungret by 2021 and, together with plans for Greenpark, there’s potential for 3,400 homes at these two sites alone,” Limerick Twenty Thirty said.

“Additionally, there is ongoing work in relation to the revitalisation of Limerick city’s historic urban core to maximise the residential potential of Georgian Limerick.

“Ultimately, we are fully satisfied that the mix of commercial and residential investment in the offing is the right one and will ensure Limerick becomes one of the fastest growing and vibrant working and living cities in Europe over the next decade and more.”

Submissions to the council about the development of the Opera site can be made until 25 August.

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 10:33 PM

    Might as well just criminalise depression while you’re at it too.

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    Mute Boutros Boutros-Ghali
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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:12 PM

    @Jamie McCormack: You don’t think talking depressed people into committing suicide is wrong?

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:51 PM

    @Boutros Boutros-Ghali: Of course it is, I hadn’t made that connection though. Fair point.

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:55 PM

    @Jamie McCormack: You should try thinking, it’s great.

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    Jan 24th 2018, 12:14 AM

    @Boutros Boutros-Ghali: easy to do when your not suffering from depression!

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    Jan 24th 2018, 12:18 AM

    @Ashling Visser Bishop: All the more reason to criminalise those who would try to talk depressed people into committing suicide.

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    Jan 24th 2018, 6:57 AM

    @Jamie McCormack: There’s quite big difference between tragically succumbing to your own depression, and taking somebody else, somebosy who is likely also very vulnerable, with yoym

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 10:36 PM

    How on earth is making a suicide pact a criminal offence going to help stop people from doing it?? If they genuinely want to prevent people from committing suicide then they need to understand what’s driving people to it in the first place and then provide support. FFS what they gonna do follow you to the other side with a court summons?!

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 10:52 PM

    @Alison O’Connor: I agree, it’s a stupid approach. What is life without quality of life? Maybe they have terrible palliative care or something? Loneliness if a wife or husband dies, maybe? Or it might be poverty that drives some to it? Yes, I’m certain they could do more for their citizens if they listened to them. But who the heck is going to confide in their nurses if they’re considering what’s been turned into a criminal act?

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    Jan 24th 2018, 11:09 AM

    @Alison O’Connor: it’s cheaper than investing in mental health. Korea is an even lore neo liberal kip than Ireland is and culturaly they tend not to care about anyone not “economically viable”.

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 10:45 PM

    S Korean society is basically based on slave labour. There is so much pressure on young men in particular to study and become a “salary man”. They only have one day off a week and during the week it is from 6am to often 9pm. At the same time pretty young women are worshiped and envied by both men and women, at the same time women do not have military conscription. Not so pretty women take out loans for plastic surgery and then wait for a rich man to marry them. It is a pretty messed up place.

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 10:51 PM

    You seem to have everything understood about Korea ? Koreans have 2 days off…The pressure it high to study though, that’s clear, but they work from 9am to 6, sometimes later

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:07 PM

    @Séamus McCallion: ‘A pretty messed up place’ is a sweeping generalisation for a country of over 50 million. Korean society has its problems like most developed countries, a high suicide rate the one that grabs all the headlines, but it’s a wonderful country of wonderful hospital people. I lived there, and with Koreans, for almost a decade and know what I’m talking about. You clearly do not, however.

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:09 PM

    @davidMbyrne.com: ‘hospitable people’ even!

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:42 PM

    @Séamus McCallion: North korea is a lot better dispite all the media attacks.

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:48 PM

    He’s typing this from his mommy’s spare room. I live in Busan, I’m curious where he gets his made up thoughts on Korean society from. Maybe he was left broken hearted by a pretty Korean girl ?

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:53 PM

    Made up thoughts? No. I am friends with a Korean couple who tell it as it is.

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    Jan 24th 2018, 12:04 AM

    @Stephen Kennedy: The west through the eyes of north korea. Youtube.

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    Jan 24th 2018, 1:07 AM

    You should take a trip out of Ireland sometime to open your mind for yourself. It seems you don’t actually know anything about Korea.

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    Jan 24th 2018, 1:09 AM

    A Korean couple who left Korea and are in Ireland, talking negative about the place :o Sounds like me talking about Ireland after a few pints

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    Jan 24th 2018, 6:37 AM

    @davidMbyrne.com: good man Dave but left you forget everyone here knows everything better and our society is always correct

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    Jan 24th 2018, 11:11 AM

    @davidMbyrne.com: your experience of a section korean life doesn’t make u an expert..a little knowledge and all that.

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    Jan 24th 2018, 5:11 PM

    @Stephen Kennedy: Actually they live in Seoul right now. I agree there are many great things about Korea but for the average person life is very tough with no safety net whatsoever.

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 10:52 PM

    Sure it’s been an offense, here (actually wonder if it still is) that’s why we say such & such “committed” suicide, because was (or is) a offense.

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:50 PM

    @Censorship is modern day book burning:

    So you would say John/Mary “committed” suicide instead of “is” (or “are”) suicide?

    Is English your first language??

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    Jan 24th 2018, 12:19 AM

    @Joe Phillips: Is it yours?

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    Jan 24th 2018, 10:28 AM

    @Boutros Boutros-Ghali: evidently not

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    Jan 24th 2018, 1:40 AM

    I’m living in Seoul at the moment. Suicide is a big problem as they don’t support those who suffer with depression! There are no / very few groups or charities that help with depression or suicide. Also, they have little to no support for the elderly – hence the high rate in that age group. Ireland is so far ahead in their acceptance of the illness and in trying to help those in need.
    Suicide pacts are evil things and this may help the rate to fall but they really need to focus on the causes!!!!!

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    Jan 24th 2018, 2:06 AM

    Correct, but in Korea you can be operated on within the first visit of GP, in Ireland you wait 4 years. Old age is a big problem here tho..I do agree

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    Jan 24th 2018, 2:58 AM

    @Stephen Kennedy: Some aspects of life in South Korea are very good – I agree ! but it is such a superficial society! anything that may be seen as a weakness is bad! so sad

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    Jan 24th 2018, 4:08 AM

    Night out in Itaewon sorts that out

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    Jan 24th 2018, 5:36 AM

    @Stephen Kennedy: hahhah – that’s where I live :)

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:53 PM

    I’m dying to see how that’ll work out.

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 11:57 PM

    So why a picture of a shopping street in Seoul. You wouldn’t head an article on irish suicide with a tourist shot of Grafton Street…

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    Jan 24th 2018, 2:31 AM

    Punishable by death…..

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    Jan 23rd 2018, 10:43 PM

    I had heard that South Korea’s setting out to boost their life expectancy rates to better than North America’s. Well, there goes South Park!

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    Jan 24th 2018, 11:12 AM

    @Fiona Fitzgerald: all they have to do is wait. Longevity is in decline in the USA. 78 at the moment and dropping

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    Jan 24th 2018, 6:52 AM

    Anyone caught organizing these will get the death penalty

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    Jan 24th 2018, 9:16 AM

    punishment will be the death penalty

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    Jan 24th 2018, 12:04 PM

    Theres a reason we work 9-5 because because 9-6 might kill a niga .

    Dave chappelle

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