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ALL ACROSS THE country, people are remembering the events of 100 years ago as the Easter Rising kicked off the most tumultuous periods of recent Irish history.
We’ll kept you up to date on everything that happened across Dublin – where most of the official commemorations took place – and what you were doing in other areas of Ireland.
Good morning and happy Easter to you.
We’re here today to remember everything that happened in Dublin’s city centre 100 years ago, just before the Rising kicked off on Easter Monday.
It’s Sinéad O’Carroll with you for the day. Please get in touch and let us know how you’re celebrating the occasion.
The parade kicks off at 10am and it promises to be a pretty spectacular event with thousands of Defence Forces personnel involved and an unimaginable amount of preparation.
And they’re not done yet.
Our reporter Catherine Healy is out and about, catching some of the last-minute rehearsals.
If you’re still planning to get into the city, be aware that most of the roads are closed to traffic and everybody is being urged to take public transport (except for the Luas as the drivers went ahead with their strike action).
But, seriously, avoid bringing your own car. You’ll definitely regret it later.
The main Sunday Parade begins at 10am at Stephen’s Green, proceeds to the GPO and then ends at Bolton Street at around 3pm.
Here’s the route:
With the Flags for Schools initiative – where the Defence Forces delivered a tricolour to every primary school – children really got into the commemorations.
We’ve received countless videos and photos from teachers across the country, showing off their pupils projects.
The latest comes from St Joseph’s NS Tullamore. This pretty cool photo the culmination of serious organisation and a good drone camera.
And here’s the video:
From Catherine Healy who is still at the Royal College of Surgeons.
“This is where it all kicks in just a few minutes, outside the RCSI. Looking at the building today, it’s hard to imagine it housing an Irish Citizen Army garrison back in 1916. The ICA’s second in command, Michael Mallin, and Constance Markievicz were stationed here from the Tuesday of Easter Week until their surrender.
The RCSI is one of the few rebel-held buildings to have largely escaped significant damage during the violence. You can still see the bullet hole marks near its entrance from where I’m standing, though.
“I thought today was meant to be horrible but it’s really nice.”
“Give it time.”
“Oh yeah.”
Riveting weather chat amongst reporters here. What is the story though?
Met Eireann says that today will be “cool with a mix of bright or sunny spells and heavy showers of rain and hail, some of them prolonged in places, with a risk of thundery downpours”.
Windy in most areas, especially in Munster and much of Leinster, with fresh to strong southerly winds, veering southwesterly, but winds mostly moderate in the north and northwest. Maximum temperatures just 7 to 10 Celsius.
Passage East in Waterford has already seen some impressive hailstorms, according to reader Albert Cavallari.
And we are GO.
Here’s Siptu’s contribution on Liberty Hall.
The flags of five groups that took part in the Rising – the Irish Volunteers, the Irish Citizen Army, Cumann na mBan, Na Fianna and the Hibernian Rifles – in position and set as the parade begins.
There really isn’t that many people around yet though…
The gardaí are in great form, as usual, over on their Twitter account.
They’ll have representatives marching in the parade as well today.
The Sunday Independent has reproduced its report from 1916, with taglines of “Week of Horror” and “Thrilling Tales of Battle”.
Hearing the national anthem for the first time today – in the Stonebreakers’ Yard at Kilmainham Gaol.
There’s also a bit of a Mass happening there.
[Insert obvious joke]
People are starting to arrive in bigger numbers along the parade route.
Sky News is also covering today’s events:
“Ireland is commemorating the centenary of the Easter Rising against British rule with the largest public event in its history,” it says.
See the video here.
Taoiseach Enda Kenny’s first appearance was at the formal State ceremony in the Stonebreakers’ Yard where 15 the leaders of the Rising were executed between 3 and 12 May 1916.
Meanwhile, the flag carriers have arrived at Dublin Castle – the site of British rule in Ireland for so many years.
Morto for this person.
As always, the Irish abroad haven’t forgotten about the important days.
These lads are celebrating in Tongariro National Park, New Zealand.
Thanks to Brian O’Connor for sending in the photo. Have a good one!
Ah now, did we not tell ye about bringing in the cars?
The Defence Forces are on Snapchat and worth a follow for the day that’s in it.
Maybe we could all rate their drills like this?
More from our reporter Catherine Healy who is following the parade:
White lilies outside City Hall, a century after the building was seized by the Irish Citizen Army on the first day of the Rising. Dublin Castle next door was left alone but a policeman was shot dead at the castle’s Cork Hill gate, right behind us here, by Sean Connolly of the ICA. Connolly himself was later killed after being shot on the roof of City Hall.
Bertie has been spotted. And he’s not in the cheap seats.
That picture taken in front of one of the VIP stands on O’Connell Street.
TheJournal.ie has published a number of accounts from people whose first-hand experiences contributed to the rich patchwork of testimony that chronicles the events of 1916.
One from an unnamed nurse details how the hospital she worked in had no gas, electricity or sterilisation equipment.
“Tuesday was the first day that any wounded were brought. Nine of these were detained and the rest were treated and discharged. One of the badly wounded, Margaret Nolan who was a forewoman in Jacob’s factory died that day, as did also James Kelly – a schoolboy who was shot through the skull.
“Another schoolboy John (Seán) Healy aged 14, a member of the Fianna whose brain was hanging all over his forehead when he was brought in, died after two days. Another man, Patrick Harris, died also on Tuesday of laceration of the brain.
Our Rónán Duffy is set up now in the media centre at the GPO.
Lucky visitors will have the best view on the street when the parade proper reaches O’Connell Street.
RTÉ’s Áine Lawlor went to great lengths to get the story today – making this young lad take off his warm GAA jumper to show off his 1916 t-shirt.
What follows is the best two minutes of TV we’ve got today.
By far.
Other highlights from RTÉ’s chats with parade-goers included the kid who said that he’s learned the names of all the signatories AND how to spell them.
Not a mean feat, in fairness. That’s a lot of fadas.
Carrying the national flag is Lt Gearoid O’Briain, great-grandson of Cathal Brugha.
Here’s Cormac Fitzgerald‘s view from North Frederick Street. The crowds are really out now.
We’re under way now at the GPO and it’s all looking very impressive.
Scenes from O’Connell Street:
There’s the Taoiseach now inspecting the guard opposite the GPO.
Meanwhile, the President has arrived.
Huge pride being felt around the city right now.
People looking forward to the reading of the Proclamation and *really* looking forward to the fly-pass.
The inspections of the guards all went off without incident there.
Luckily everyone’s shoes were shined, ties straight and buttons sparkling.
Fr Seamus Madigan says a prayer for all those lost their lives and fought for Ireland in 1916. He has been the head chaplain to the army since last September.
He hopes for peace and reconciliation in the century that stretches before us.
Children have come forward with a piper band to lay daffodils.
Before the children came out, we heard some powerful words from Fr Madigan.
Some beautiful music from the Defence Force’s Number 1 Band and Band of 2 Brigade under the baton of Captain Feargal Carroll.
The Proclamation is being read by Captain Peter Kelleher now.
He is from Douglas in Cork and joined the army in May 1999. He has served overseas three times, two of which have been as an officer.
His grandfather and granduncle were both members of the 1 Southern Brigade old IRA in West Cork. Both served during the War of Independence. He gave his wife his grandfather’s War of Independence medal on their wedding day as a token of all he owns.
His granduncle was shot and wounded in a confrontation with the Black and Tans and died of sepsis from the bullet wound while evading capture.
Captain Kelleher is doing a very impressive job here of reading the Proclamation.
Goosebump moment as the entire crowd is silence.
This will certainly be a moment to remember for these kids.
Hopefully we’ll have a better quality video of the Proclamation reading soon, but this will give a sense of how moving it was.
Dublin really is looking incredible today.
We’ve had a minute silence, followed by more music from the army bands at the GPO.
Next up, the tricolour will be hoisted to full mast and we’ll have Amhrán na bhFiann and a fly-past.
Hard not to get VERY patriotic during that upbeat version of the national anthem while watching the fly-past.
Here’s a rough version in case you missed it (along with some spontaneous, unintentional commentary).
Our editor Susan Daly managed to capture this view of the fly-past which gives a better impression of the power of the moment.
The parade continues now as 3,000 troops make their way across the city. It’s expected to continue until 3pm.
Nothing quite like a rendition of Danny Boy to get the emotions stirring.
*cries*
A beautiful shot of Una O Callanáin at the Stonebreakers’ Yard in Kilmainham Gaol earlier today following the private wreath-laying ceremony for the 15 leaders of the 1916 Rising who were executed there.
She takes a closer look at the memorial wall where her grandfather Michael Mallin was killed.
Captain Peter Kelleher – who read the Proclamation – is a pretty popular fella right now.
Here’s that reading of the Proclamation, in full.
*waves tricolour*
It’s not all shiny shoes and music for our military…
We’ll have a collection of great shots from today for you soon but first this from Keith Gordon Photography – a shot of the original proclamation that is displayed in the main foyer of Leinster House.
Some important weather and apparel updates from Rónán Duffy.
Pride is the word of the day, for sure.
Also, everybody is DELIGHTED the rain held off.
Pats on the backs, all round.
A few things we missed out on earlier.
*applause emoji*
*heart swells*
Never gets old.
Some shots from outside of Dublin. This just in from Dingle.
There’s also a large crowd gathered for the event on the Falls Road in Belfast.
Proof in the comments section that even the most cynical were moved today.
Looks like a NASA launch room…
As the huge choral event gets underway in Dublin Castle, the Defence Forces personnel are rightly feeling proud of themselves.
Those ponchos though.
As the official events wind down, we’ve collected some of the best images of the day for you here.
And here are a couple of more favourites…
That’s it from us today.
We hope you enjoyed the commemorations – whether you were on the streets or cosied up in front of the telly.
We’ll be back tomorrow for more coverage of what’s happening around the country as the anniversary celebrations continue.
Happy Easter/chocolate eating.
Slán go foill.
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RIP to the 3,000 that died in 9/11, will always be a horrible day for their family.
Just as important to remember and pay respects to the 110,000 Iraqi civilians that died in the war that followed 9/11.
They don’t count they are not American
God bless America. !
100,000 killed in Iraq in Americas war “OF” terror mostly civilians
Went to war with falsified evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction nobody gives a S*it
agree totally.
The war in Afghanistan maybe? Iraq was linked but separate
Most of the Iraqi civilians that have been killed were killed by their own fellow religious and fellow countrymen. The US and others freed them from a brutal dictator and his psychopathic sons, if the Iraqis then decided to kill one another that’s hardly the west’s fault.
I still remember exactly where i was,what i was doing and who i was with when it happened,something ill never forget,R.I.P to all those who lost their lives in the towers,and to the selfless members of NYPD and FDNY who went in to save people probaly knowing they would never make it out.
I too remember exactly what I was doing that day! I was working in what was then NTL out in Eastpoint business park, & they had tv’s on in our office all the time, so we watched it all happen, it was like watching a movie, totally surreal. My dad tried to contact his relatives in NYC all that day, as a cousing worked in the twin towers, luckily not that day! However, a colleague of my dad in Dublin lost a daughter in the towers, and her sister escaped from the other tower! So sad :(
Our work was next to American Airlines offices in Eastpoint & they received bomb threats, which meant we were all evacuated! It was a very very surreal day which will always stick in my memory. I know a lot of lives have been lost since then, and continue to be because of it, but 9/11 is something I won’t forget.
My dad had just landed that day having returned from Boston. Knew he was on ground and safe but I’ll always remember working my summer job in my dads factory listening to 2fm on radio reports of small plane hitting wtc. I was thinking poor pilot but then it started to filter on radio something was really wrong. Went to my moms workplace turned on sky news to see a nother plane hit just before my eyes. I remember thinking oh no tomorrow there will be huge military response. As I watched the peolle jump put of the buildings I felt sick then as the towers fell I just knew there would be vengeance. Rightly do with the taliban. Iraq later on was wrong but UBL wanted a response he got one. But not whst he was expecting. He wanted Soviet style war but thr Americans forced a different style causing him and others to go underground. Afghanistan eould be passified if they kept eye on the ball instead of going after saddam.
Rest in peace all those thst died on 9/11. Two jet liners loaded with fuel can only imagine the horrific fire. No building could have survived a combination of sheer brute force and hot jet fuel
I was on my way to work in Eircom when I bumped into a friend who told me.. I thought it was a sick joke, until another friend confirmed it.
Was in telesales, every person we called that night asked us how we could even think about making sales calls that night, they were right..
I was at school, we had a tv in the class room and I will never forget watching it…. Our tutor, a priest, turned the tv off when the second plane hit.
In a new your minute, everything can change …. I think the entire world changed in the minutes of this terrible event….
U still cry watching documentaries on tv about it.
Innocent lives just gone….
Rip to all that didn’t make it home that day…. And respect to all Fire & Police departments whom sadly didnt make it out…. You are all the Hero’s of that tragic day ….
“In a New York minute everything can change.” Don Henly.
Very true,was sitting by Lough Derg with my busisness partner in outside a pub,just toasting a successful busisness deal and commiserating at the loss of the week before of one of my parents.
Went in to get another round of drinks to hear one of the staff say to another about a plane crashing into the first Tower.No TV set in the pub,dashing to the car to listen to it on 2FM.
Me trying to ring a friend who had an office at the time on Veezy st which runs parallel to the towers.
No answer,and was no answer until I rang him at home that evening. He had been in Boston on busisness,had seen the plane go in on the news,rang his office and told his secetary to get everyone out and to go home and like NOW! His office was half flattened by rubble and debris in the fall.
Hell of a day!!!
I’m the same I was feeding my baby watching the devastation on the news !
Ill never forget were i was that day the world got a little darker that day rip
I remember one year after I was in nyc what was more heart breaking then the holes in the ground and the surrounding buildings gouged was the missing posters stuck up. Some fresh some faded but so so many of them.
Sad day for so many families. That same day I spent some time with squad 4 nypd in the bronx who lost 14 men an entire unit.
Richard the world was a very dark place before this with American foreign policy…many many innocent people lost their lives in 9/11, including an old school mate Ruth Clifford and her young daughter…but in my humble opinion, and it’s only my opinion, the US has blood on their hands big time. RIP to each and every one of them.
It’s also the 40th Anniversary of the U.S. backed coup in Chile. Which removed the Democratically Elected President and Installed a Fascist Dictator.
Im with you 100% it just got that bit more darker because shame on us we only then started seeing the world as is because it happened to a western nation the world always had the nasty things going on but for me i was in second year in school bout 14 so it awakened my mind to the darkness in the world but also the good in people and on a bright note we always know on our darkest day people will shine trough remember the heros
Aran, “the US backed coup”, is a gross exaggeration. The right wing Chilean Army overthrew a left wing socialist that they believed was going to turn Chile into another Communist Cuba. The US involvement was trivial in comparison to this. Allende only got 30 odd percent off the votes so he had a lot of enemies in Chile.
My girlfriend is gone into labour.no joking9/11,bless them souls who lost their lives on that day.my hero is in the cuh and its struggling to not come out.
Don’t know if its a boy or a girl either..
The victims families are owed an explanation from the government that represents them, it’s the least the US Government could do.
With the news over a year ago that the prime witness in the 9/11 investigation completely made up his testimony under torture of planning the attacks on the towers with Bin Laden and all the other crucial evidence he gave then the official explanation is itself a conspiracy.
The families are owed more than a conspiracy theory as to what happened to their loved ones.
Its not about that you have 364 days a year to tell us this it one day a year we all think about the poor people who had to jump to there deaths the people who had no way out and the people who tried to help there fellow man and died aswell
Disgusting how you use 9/11 on 9/11 to continue to spout you’re anti-American/pro-Russia/pro-Assad/pro-Russian Television prop. and disguise it as you care about the 9/11 victims. Couldn’t you just have a little decency? #from NY #have a mother who worked right next to the trade center (Liberty Plaza). #know people who lost relatives. We’re the Arab-Americans across the river in Jersey City also paid off to celebrate??? What the conspiracy behind that? Should we launch an investigation? It’s beyond me why they even live in America if they hate it so much.
Museums hiding the existence of giants, 9/11 an inside job and all rebels fighting in Syria being foreign jihadists. Is there any crackpot theory you don’t believe in?
Today is about remembering those who lost their lives on this day and nothing else.
Well said sir
I intend no disrespect to the families of the 9/11 victims. I left the US the day before 9/11 having worked there for two years in New York. I am merely saying that the families are owed an explanation as to who killed their loved ones because anyone who believes the official explanation which is now itself classed as a conspiracy theory is bat sh*t crazy.
Re Jason.
Anymore? Global warming, there’s another one. That is a complete falacy. I do believe giants were real and giants of 9 to 12 feet are more than likely present today on the Solomon Islands.
RIP to all who were lost that day, hard to believe its 12 years,
Still no harm in people in asking questions about the huge wholes in the official theory. There are a number of victims families also involved in organisations that are looking for a new investigation in to what really happened that day.
Some individuals on here get very angry when people pose “crackpot” questions like… How two office fires managed to bring down a 47 story steel framed building in 8 seconds. And why it was not even mentioned in the 9/11 commission report and most Americans don’t even know it fell despite the existence of expert groups like architects and engineers for 9/11 truth. pilots for 9/11 truth etc.
Questioning official stories is a duty, particularly when there are so many holes in the admins version of the story.
Fantasy Island ended in 84′.
Even liberty hall wouldn’t collapse with two fires not straight down like that. Keep on living in your fantasy world Jazz where the laws of physics don’t exist.
Trouble is the laws of physics do exist and were aptly demonstrated on 9/11.But crackpots who know Jack shit about demolition work or the use of high explosives in demolition or how the towers were put together keep bleating on about how quick the fire destroyed them.
Liberty hall is built out of concrete and bricks outside an iron frame work
. WTC1 and 2 were basically two giant rectangle boxes standing up right with concrete floors and girder support,covered by a aluminium and glass skin.They were designed to flex in high winds and even shear off above the 50th floor if a nuke had hit Manhatten.
They were not designed to withstand a 100 ton flying bomb.2/3 of which was AV GAS. If you classify that as an office fire,I wouldn’t fancy working in your office!
Indeed always question authoithy but do some research first in how your pet theory might actually have to work in real life,then apply Mr Occams razor to it and it is usually the simplest explanation that is the truth.
Martin WTC7 had more damage than just a couple of office fires, there was also some considerable structural damage to the building and the fires burned all day before the building collapsed. The gave up trying to fight the fires as they didn’t have enough water supply and evacuated the area for fear of collapse.
For me the simplest explanation is that the same thing that caused the metal but not plastic trim on the cars to burn up around New York that day also caused the the metal in the building to burn up. Direct energy weapons as purposed by Nikola Tesla over 100 years ago
Yawwwwnnnn.
I see we have all the experts in metallurgy and structural design out in force tonight.
Cia ran, what happened to the cars to make them burn but not the trim or plastic just the metal?
Beg, check the burning of Mandarin Oriental Hotel to see what happens when skyscrapers burn according to laws of physics..
Can you people not just accept the fact that America was attacked by a group of radical Islamists.they trained and carried out their attacks with military precision.
America was fully justified in its reaction in the aftermath of being attacked.
This group has also killed in Madrid,Bali and Mumbai.but I’m sure you will find a conspiracy theory to blame that on the United States too.
Ciaran I never said the us government did it.
I am saying who ever did it used direct energy weapons.
Maybe your underestimating their weaponry.
The problem is that, as long as people are going to blindly accept such “facts”, the animals who commit such atrocities, not only will stay unpunished, but will continue to commit them..
The Tesla’s tower of wireless communication/energy pulls the charged particles down from space and spreads this out on a high voltage and frequency wave which then can power any device tuned to the frequency. He also called it a death ray while its not the same as the tec today its the basics of it
JP Morgan ruined Tesla financially and stole his visions of the future from us. That’s the one that’s hurts even unborn generations.
Some day I hope a proper independent investigation of 9/11 is done but it will be harder now that all the twist beams have been smelted.
I think you will find the answer in Area 51.
Your answers along with the other conspiracy theorists can be found at long last in Area 51.
I think someone
Mr tesla i think someone had been playing a little to much of command and conquer
Never played it but I did study electric
*electrical engineering and have an interest in physic more than the average person
Your not the only electrical engineer in the country,so you may step down of your pedestal.
You should play it.cracking game
Last game I can l played was Mario kart with the kids but they don’t play games anymore.
I am saying I am not commenting on a subject that I have no experience in and maybe you should look into science yourself if your so quick to know everything maybe you could build an Einstein refrigerator for yourself and save some money.
@Simon Jester “do some research first in how your pet theory.”
What theory are you on about???, you and yours are the only ones defending a conspiracy theory. I just want some realistic answers regarding the impossible collapse of building 7.
Unanswered questions about obvious false official claims. You are the one asking people to put on their tin foil hats an believe your ridiculous office fire theory. That all the massive support columns in the basement failed at exactly the same time due to standard office fires 20 floors above them( leaving them all cut at a 45 degree angle) see image:
http://media.portland.indymedia.org/images/2006/06/341239.jpg
You then say these fires caused a collapse that defy the laws of physics. How can you swallow that crap? time you did some research genius.
Says a lot about you when you felt it necessary to take the liberty hall scenario as a serious point.
Open your eyes man. Either your not that bright or your are commenting for someones agenda. either way your wrong.
Good job mr Telsas free energy device was never constructed.It would work in the 40.0 Mhz range,same range of human brain waves .So we would be all drooling cabbages controlled by an elite with free energy by now….
So which nuke reactors were they plugged into to power them?? No one commented on 400 feet giant towers with balls of copper on them around NYC pre 9/11 either??
Nor were Mr Telsa’s designs ,shall we say very “man portable and concealable” either.
NMartin ..READ first what I wrote properly,before you fly off the handle will you?First off you canme in with the office theory fire which is utter bullshit anyway.As you can hardly claim a plane crash into a building as a normal office fire..
Now Martin I’ll explain how the coloums failed.
WEIGHT going downwards will fall in a straight line.Increasing weight[IE floors and contents of WTC 1&2 being added will cause acceleration to the initial weight and SHEAR steel etc in a straight line.
Now GENIUS I suggest you go and try this for yourself.But then again as the super sleuth and conspircy know it all you dont need to do this as you live in a parallel universe where these laws dont apply.
So you are a demolitions expert then?? So tell us GENIUS how you bring down two towers without structurally weaking key points first off which requires knocking out internal key supports like lift shafts,satirways etc without anyone noticing that..How do you explain thsat one genius??
Get some reality into your life man!You are commenting on something that is explanable.
But you see some greater picture where the international organisation of Global Crud is involved which makes me belive you are;
a] an Idiot,[b] deluded[c] ignorant of physics,steel properties and the reality of explosive demolition work .[d] Paranoid,if you belive I’m posting for someone elses agenda.
Also ,If you belive you have cracked this…How long do you expect to live??I wouldnt be shooting my mouth off on the Net about it.After all if the society of International Crud can wipe out five buildings in NYC and cause global wars.
Do you think they wont think anything of”disappering”you too???
All the anti American sentiment on here is pointless…go back to ur rocks ye crawled from…think of the families that lost loved ones u ignorant keyboard warriors
You will find most of the families want an independent investigation also , the 911 commission was a total whitewash , so much does not add up about that day .
Another loony conspiracy theory nut!
Great retort there William , it all makes sense to you then I suppose
John, there’s a piece in this month’s Scientific American magazine about why some people fall for conspiracy theories. It’s a mild form of schizophrenia To quote:-
I never mentioned anything about a conspiracy William , what I’m getting at is the failure of anyone to in the vast US intelligence network to notice anything unusual prior to the attack and the failure of their defences on that terrible day . Nice try try though
By your reasoning then William , the 911 victims families calling for an independent investigation have schizophrenia , I don’t think so buddy . Now trot on
Not by my reasoning, by the Scientists writing for Scientific American. All families are not calling for an investigation that claims the CIA blew up the buildings or that all the Jews were told in advance to leave or a picture of a devil was seen in a cloud or there were no aircraft parts in the rubble of The Pentagon etc etc.
The problem with conspiracy theorists is that NO amount of rebuttal will change their minds. It’s exactly the same fault religious people have. No matter how many paradoxes & contradictions you throw at them it’s like water off a Duck’s back.
All conspiracy theorists in all their conspiracies behave in exactly the same way. I’ve been watching them for nearly 40 years. [Mind you you would think I could spot them a bit sooner in a thread.]
John, the intelligence service came VERY close to copping on about the WTC attack. In fact by a twist of fate, the ex-FBI man who had just been given the job of head of security in the WTC had warned about such an attack when he was with the FBI and his superiors did’t take him seriously. He was killed in the attack. If I remember correctly he was only one of two FBI men killed.
A mole who worked in an hotel in NY told his FBI handlers that there was a lot of suspicious activity by people staying in the hotel and that too was ignored.
Other FBI agents came across the fact that foreigners were learning to fly planes and one tutor stated that he was suspicious that they only wanted to learn to land the planes.
Now will this rebuttal of your point cause you to pause and realise that you are wrong here and maybe wrong when other posters in this thread have pointed out you were wrong on other points. No? Quelle suprise!
Wrong about what William all I said was the 911 commission was a whitewash which it was . I think maybe you have me confused with someone else nor did I say all of the victims families wanted a new investigation .
Personally I think that the words ‘Conspiracy Theorist’ are used about anyone that asks questions about the official version of anything. Six months ago if I said that the American government was spying on people it would be a ‘conspiracy theory’ but now with whistleblower Edward Snowden we know this to be true. Did you know that the existence of the mafia was once considered a ‘conspiracy theory’ (until Apalachin Meeting raid). There are many other examples – http://www.infowars.com/33-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true-what-every-person-should-know/
The old tin foil hat thing is wearing a bit thin these days Trevor , people don’t like to be out outside their comfort zone , it’s far easier for them to ridicule people and keep their heads firmly buried in the sand , but thankfully the times they are a changing .
Interesting read if you care to find out more about the official 911 report. It’s all facts, no tin foil hats or conspiracy theories. I like facts.
http://www.911truth.org/the-911-commission-report-a-571-page-lie/
Interesting read if you care to find out more about the official 911 report. It’s all facts, no tin foil hats or conspiracy theories. I like facts.”
—- problem is some facts were left out eg what the FBI said at the inquiry – which Bush held up for over a year
Emotional to say the least….gone but never forgotten.forever in our thoughts and memories.
I think twelve years of thoughts is enough. Think about one of these next: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_disasters_by_death_toll
Cuddle flip, if you think 12 years is enough then should we forget about the people that died in chernobyl, world war 1 and 2…should we forget the people that died in the holocaust or through genocide or The Birmingham pub bombings in Britain or the Omagh bombing in 1998 the list is endless of people that have died….and all for what…
People die everyday needlessly due to war, fighting, hatred and revenge, natural disasters etc etc….nobody should be asked to forget about loved ones no matter how long ago they passed….whether it is a year or two or more, every soul that has passed has a right to be remembered. The reason this particular date and act is remembered is because it affected the world and many cultures and countries…it affected people that were going about their every day lives and it affected people that thought they were fighting for a cause. It affect people who were trying to save others while doing their jobs and professions. All these people are someones children, mothers, son, fathers, uncle, aunts and so on.
Every person world wide should be remembered and never forgotten it just happens that this happened in our life time and most of us can recall our emotions and feelings around this heinous act.
Donna, just in case you think otherwise, 3 people were killed when Chernobyl blew up, about 25, mainly firefighters, who fought the fire without any radiation protection, died in the weeks that followed and an estimated 20 died from Thyroid cancer.
I wasn’t differentiating between how people die or the amount whether large or small.. I was saying that everyone should be remembered.
Death affects us all and we would be sad human beings if we didn’t feel anything or react to some degree when we see or hear about things like 9/11 or the Omagh Bombing,Genocide, Holocaust,murder, suicide etc…
Death is a horrible thing whether it is through illness,accidental,murder or suicide etc and it hurts the people it leaves behind.
My point was people HAVE A RIGHT TO BE REMEMBERED.
While the US 9/11 should be remembered etc .
It was on this same date 40 years ago that the USA backed a far more vicious attack on Chile – but the Chilean 9/11 is rarely membered. Kissinger said at the time that ” the future of Chile was far too important to be left to Chileans” . That’s what the US thinks of Democracy . From 3,000 – 5,000 killed outright – and 30,000 – 40,000 missing or jailed . All thanks to USA – and they have the nerve to BS about what happened to them . Compared to what they have done to Vietnam , Chile , Iraq , Afghanistan , Laos – it [ US 9/11 ] is a tiny event – but gets worldwide attention .
Why are there no commemorations re Hiroshima / Nagasaki, Vietnam , etc etc etc .
500,000 Iraqi children killed by US sanctions on Iraq –
–but Madeline Albright said this ” was a price they were willing to pay ” . An amazing statement since she or US did not pay for it – but half a million Iraqis did – and more during the Iraq invasion .
US hypocrisy knows no bounds .
ps -Here is an article on Chilean 9/11
People tend to forget. What happened on 9/11 was the first time maybe since ww2 that a major terroist attack occured In the western world. In other parts of the world particulary the middle east unfortunately there is striff there everyother day without western intervention. That’s the way it is. All I will say is remember those who died in 9/11. Its our neck of the woods really.
The Munich Massacre and the Troubles are but two examples I can think of out of my head, plus the 1991 bombing of the Twin Towers. There have been a lot of attacks in the Western World since WW2. Just nothing of the sheer scale of 9/11. Mind you nothing like it has ever happened before or since.
In the Middle East, the terrorists are killing each other, the attack on the WTC was by non Americans.
People always say, you know where you were when JFK died “it was before my time”. When Elvis died…..i was watching tv…..when the Twin Towers where hit. I was sitting at a desk dumbfounded. Jaw wide open. Not believing what i was watching. 12 years on i still cry for those people who lost their lives and for the people who lost relatives. RIP
God bless the hero’s of 9/11. The civilians who turned into hero’s from the streets of lower Manhattan to the skies on united 93. Never forgotten. This is not a day for political point scoring
Rotund as I said families should grieve and remember but it’s the continual communal reliving of traumatic events as happens with 9/11 every year that is unhealthy. Life has to go on, bereavement is part of life. Remembering the past, remembering the dead is different to this over the top reliving of 9/11 every year: the tv programs etc, the militarisation of it and the sentimentalisation of it are all unhealthy
Hiroshima/Nagasaki never forget
Pearl Harbor, never forget!
Rape of Nanking,Burma railroad,sack of Singapore,Bataan death march.NEVER forget.
At least now America is a tamed Rottweiler.
Anybody who believes the official 9/11 story is a complete bafoon
Perspective: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_(Ireland)
Oh dear.
we’ll never forget…
Get over it
Wonder if you had a friend or relative atomised would you be so quick to throw out such nonsense?
Yes I would. Grieve in private. This public raking up of communal grief is psychologically unhealthy. You have to move on.
The numbers killed on 9/11 fade into insignificance compared to civilians killed in the illegal “shock and awe” attack in Iraq. Per head of population, relatively more people died in the Northern Ireland conflict of the late sixties, seventies and eighties. The American response to 9/11 was disproportionate, was 9/11 a crime against humanity? Yes it was. Should the victims be remembered? Yes they should, but in s proportionate way. The crimes committed by the US by far outweigh the crimes committed against it.
Be sure to tell those families in the north and iraq to get over it too.
Islamists illegally cross over from Iran and Syria into Iraq, kill thousands and somehow the figure gets pinned on the US Army. My neighbor was in the US Army (his family have been marines ever since landing on these shores from Ireland in the 1700s) he was telling me all the people he was fighting were there nuts from Iran and Syria, NOT Iraqis.
Kevin I am talking about the initial shock and awe blanket bombing of Baghdad not the ongoing war that followed.
Blanket bombing of Bagdad…. Do you read indymedia much??
IF the USAF had carpet bombed Bagdad as you say. Bagdad would look like pics of post ww2 Berlin.IOW burnt out heaps of rubble.Carpet bombing is sooo passe dear.. You would use a nuke if you wanted to instantly create a rubble field where there was a city these days…But if you wanted to neutralise a cities defences and facilities and power,you would do exactly what the US did in the start of Iraqui freedom.Something that would be impossible to do with carpet bombing without destroying 75% of the city. Intrestingly ,there was more ordinance dropped on Bagdad than Berlin in the 2nd world war in a week,with 90% fewer civillian casualties than Berlin 60 years ago.
Some lessons are learnt the hard way.
Bit early for ninth of November memorials, surely?
Some good deals to be had all the same:
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I don’t think anyone will ever forget where they were that day… I just remember staring at the TV screen in shock, not able to believe it was real, and worrying frantically for my relatives in New York, even though they didn’t even live near or work in the Twin Towers! You just never know what’s going to happen next in life, what the next big accident/ disaster/ terrorist attack etc will be, and we should never forget the victims. I wish people would stop arguing about how exactly the towers would have collapsed, or calling out conspiracy theories… we should just remember the victims right now, and nothing more!
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