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WE’VE BEEN COUNTING for 72 hours but there are still six seats to be filled after the 2016 general election.
We’re expecting some more drama today with counting still underway in three constituencies across the country. Stick with us as we bring you news of who’s in and who’s out of the 32nd Dáil.
First off, here’s a quick recap:
It’s Sinéad O’Carroll here, by the way, to keep you updated throughout the morning.
We’ll have someone in the RDS shortly to report back about the number of paper cuts on counters’ fingers, the volume of energy drinks consumed and the very real possibility that junior minister Aodhán Ó Ríordáin could lose his seat.
If you’re still out there and reading, please get in touch in the comments section, by email (sinead@thejournal.ie) or on Twitter @sineadocarroll
It’s not quite Super Tuesday this side of the pond but we’re hoping to bring you some final news from Longford-Westmeath, Dublin Bay North and Dublin South Central today.
Let’s head back over to Dublin now to get an update on Dublin South Central.
This is the one that could drag as Fianna Fáiler Catherine Ardagh’s team has already brought up the c-word: COURT.
But for now, we’re waiting until noon for the returning officer to announce how many invalid votes were spotted in the 170 disputed ones.
Stay tuned for that in a few hours.
So let’s run through what’s happening in each of the three constituencies. First up, Longford-Westmeath.
We eventually got ex-Fianna Fáiler and now-Independent Alliance councillor Kevin ‘Boxer’ Moran elected on the 13th count last night.
BUT… (Obviously there’s a but in this election).
James Bannon, the Fine Gael TD has been granted a recount. If nothing changes, it looks like Fine Gael’s Peter Burke and Sinn Féin’s Paul Hogan will take the third and fourth seats.
That leaves Willie Penrose out in the cold which is terrible news for Labour.
And last but not least, the Group of Death in Dublin Bay North.
Lots of Power puns were available to reporters tweeting away from the RDS as Averil was eliminated after a long recheck. She was joined in the dark by AAA-PBP second-time candidate John Lyons.
The Haughey dynasty was revitalised with the election of Charlie’s son Seán on count 14 with 12,745 votes (483 over quota).
He joins Richard Bruton who was elected way back on Saturday.
So the state of play right now? Independents Finian McGrath and Tommy Broughan are fighting with Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell and Labour’s Aodhán Ó Ríordáin for the last three seats.
Transfers from John Lyons will probably be more friends to the indos and Mitchell, meaning AOR and Labour could be in serious trouble.
Nail-biting stuff really.
(Yes, I’m very fond of a Britney gif. Deal.)
Some lols going on below the line here….
We’ve heard a lot about the flirtin’, dancin’ and the courtin’ that will go on between political parties over the next few weeks as they try to cobble together a government, a ‘programme for parliament’ or whatever Micheál Martin was talking about last night.
Geography student Rob McDonnell writes for us today, saying if the parties backtrack on promises about who they would or would not do deals with, he’ll be really rather annoyed.
You can see the dilemma with how the seats are working out. Remember, the magic number – as they say – is 79 for a majority.
Time for a recap, right?
Nicky Ryan has one for you, set to suitably dramatic tunes.
This just came in from a Damian Moylan in Longford. He is disappointed with the likely outcome in Longford-Westmeath. He writes:
One problem we do have is Longford. It now looks like not one TD in Dail Eireann from Co. Longford which is really bad news for what already is a disadvantaged town and an unemployment blackspot.
It seems inevitable that Longford cannot elect a single TD beacuse Longford is part of the larger Longford-Westmeath area. The larger population areas outside Longford invariably means that candidates from Longford simply cannot compete.
If we value democracy it would seem necessary to create a Longford constituency so that we could elect candidate TD’s from the area.
Longford, already disadvantaged in so many ways needs a voice in Dáil Eireann.
Cianan Brennan has arrived at the RDS where John Lyons’s 8,476 votes are now being distributed among the final contenders.
(I’m going to run out of ‘nail-biting’ gifs, aren’t I?)
Last night’s Claire Byrne Live/Amárach Research poll asked the all important question – Micheál or Enda.
Most of you said neither.
Here’s Cianan Brennan‘s take on things in Dublin Bay North from the RDS.
Today, after nearly four days of non-stop counting, everyone seems wrung out. Shane Ross is here, and has more pep in his step than pretty much the rest of the huge room combined. But then he was elected on the second count in Dublin Rathdown three days ago.
The word about the place is that Labour’s Aodhán Ó Riordáin is in big trouble. He doesn’t have it in him to deny it. If truth be told he looks like a ghost, defeated and tired.
“I wouldn’t be confident to be honest with you,” he tells TheJournal.ie.
“It’s not looking good, we would have hoped for more transfers than we have gotten from Averil Power to be honest. When the tide goes out, it goes out you know? It’s a credit to the campaign that we’ve held on as long as we have.”
There’s something approaching solidarity now between those who remain – Independents Tommy Broughan and Finian McGrath, Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell and Labour’s Ó Riordáin. They’ve all been through the mill for four hard days. Mitchell calls to McGrath by name. He shares a word with Ó Riordáin, then gives us a minute as he wanders nervously about the hall.
The count is expected to happen before 1pm.
“I’m so nervous. It’s cruel, really cruel,” McGrath tells us.
“My stomach is in bits from too much of this,” he says, gesturing to his coffee. ”If I take the seat I’ll be absolutely over the moon to be honest with you.”
Mitchell is relatively upbeat. She’s in a good position and she knows it. She chats away in a tired, happy fashion with Sinn Féin MEP Lynn Boylan.
I think we’re going to do it, we’re confident. It looks that way. It’s been such a long campaign, I mean we were initially aiming for November and that’s when we peaked, and now it’s three months further along. But I think we’re going to do it, but who can say for certain?
Tommy Broughan is a little more inscrutable. “It’s hard to say how we’ll do – it’s all a little bit…” and he waves his hands up and down in the universal sign for “it’s all up in the air”.
Look who has arrived at the RDS…
Yes, that’s deputy Labour leader Alan Kelly up from Tipp to support his colleague.
No sign of Joan Burton yet.
And more from Cianan in the RDS where the reporters – many of whom have been holed up there for going on 76 hours now – just need something. ANYTHING.
“The entire media just descended on Kelly expecting something as he stared at his phone. He waited 40 seconds, then looked up and said “no folks, nothing to see here”. Cue collective breath exhalation.”
We managed to get a grainy snap though.
Oh dear.
A count is imminent in Dublin Bay North.
Repeat. A count is imminent in Dublin Bay North.
Looks like the bad news will be confirmed for Ó Riordáin.
WE HAVE WINNERS!!!
(AND A LOSER)
Aodhán Ó Ríordáin has lost his seat in Dublin Bay North. Losing out to Independents Tommy Broughan and Finian McGrath and Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell.
WE HAVE WINNERS!!!
(AND A LOSER)
Aodhán Ó Ríordáin has lost his seat in Dublin Bay North. Losing out to Independents Tommy Broughan and Finian McGrath and Sinn Féin’s Denise Mitchell.
So here’s what we’ve ended up with in Dublin Bay North.
That’s one Fine Gael (Bruton), one Fianna Fáil (Haughey), one Sinn Féin (Mitchell) and two independents (Broughan and McGrath).
Some snippets from the RDS and Dublin Bay North, which is seeing the most action of the past 76 hours right now.
In one corner, Sinn Féin supporters are belting out “Oró sé do bheatha bháile”.
In the other, an extremely disappointed Ó Ríordáin is giving an interview to RTÉ Radio One for the one o’clock news.
He has said:
[I am] very disappointed, it wasn’t to be, just want to thank all my supporters and everyone who voted for me.
Meanwhile, Finian McGrath is “absolutely delighted” and Denise Mitchell takes the opportunity to get another dig in with regard Irish Water:
The people have shown this Fine Gael government where to go, and they can take their water charges with them.
It’s emptied out pretty quickly in the RDS.
Here, have you forgotten about Dublin South Central?
They’re still not finished there either..
The decision AAA-PBP’s Bríd Smith refers to will be key to whether her election will be confirmed after a recheck.
The returning officer will announce how many of the 170 disputed votes will be declared invalid.
Ó Ríordáin has congratulated his fellow candidates and paid tribute to his team.
Meanwhile, in Longford, a second recount is still going on. It was granted at the request of James Bannon who has the party’s legal counsel Kevin O’Higgins with him in the count centre.
According to Shannonside FM:
This recount was requested last night by Fine Gael Deputy James Bannon who was apparently told last night that the result of the 13th count and the distribution of Kevin Boxer Moran’s surplus has resulted in him being two votes behind Willie Penrose.
The local station has said this could easily go into day five.
Yep, we can do that.
No matter what team you’re on – or if you’re even on a team, it’s never that pretty seeing someone lose.
These lads have more than a cúpla focail according to Irish language news site Tuairisc.ie
How the counters are feeling now…
We’re hearing from the RDS that we’ll have news on Dublin South Central very soon but I’m going to take this lull to hand you over to my colleague Christina Finn to take you through the next couple of hours.
Hopefully, we won’t be going into Day Five of the #ge16 count.
Christina Finn here to take you through the next few hours. Almost there now folks.
We’re waiting on the final adjudication on Dublin South Central where AAA-PBP’s Bríd Smith is locked in a legal quagmire with Fianna Fáil’s Catherine Ardagh.
Everyone seems to be waiting with bated breath at Dublin South Central.
You can’t blame them, it’s been a long four days. At this stage, everyone is feeling a little like this:
Meanwhile, our reporter Cianan Brennan was down at the Dublin Bay North count when it all came to an end (though some wondered if that would ever be the case).
After days of waiting around for a result, suddenly there was a flurry of activity and it was all done. He said the whole scene was bedlam.
There’s a whole lot of sitting going on down at the RDS at the moment.
I really wish they would just play this over the speakers down there. Give the people what they want. A solid tune.
You would want to be living under a rock if you haven’t heard all the discussions about who is going to join up and form the next government.
As it stand, we have Fine Gael at 49 seats and Fianna Fáil at 44. But, who knows what the outcome is going to be?
Rob O’Donnell writes for TheJournal.ie today that he has a serious problem with political parties saying one thing and doing another once the election is over and the votes are in.
By my judgement, representation and old-school cloak and dagger politics are incompatible. Yes, I am willing to accept that political parties naturally have an overwhelming preference to govern as the only stakeholder in a majority government, but the plurality of the current political landscape just doesn’t allow for it.
It is the responsibility of these parties to respect the mandate the electorate have given them and to do their absolute best to govern.
Do you agree with his point? Read more of his article here>
A very good question. Day five? Really? Sigh.
A spokesperson for the European Commission has told TheJournal.ie that it thought it was best to delay a report which criticises the level of public sector investment in Ireland until after the election.
Now, it doesn’t look like there will be an announcement in Dublin South Central for some time. I’m going to hand you over to our reporter Aoife Barry to take you through the next couple of hours.
Let’s hope they get a move on.
Aoife Barry here on the liveblog with you now – still waiting on results from two centres, Dublin South Central and Longford.
Things are dragging on a bit…
There’s not much happening, but everyone is talking about the Longford-Westmeath count, according to Google Trends:
Some other political news – Ivana Bacik has just announced she’s running for the Seanad:
Here’s the latest update from the Longford-Westmeath count:
Our own Cianan Brennan is down at the Dublin South Central count, and has been chatting to Bríd Smith.
She’s told him she has no idea when this process finishes, and when it does she thinks there’s a very good chance it’ll be taken the legal route
I’m tired, emotional, angry, hopeful, optimistic… it changes all the time, this has just gone on so long
“The adjudication officer made her decision on the 170 contentious votes that have ground this count to an utter halt,” reports Cianan. “But now the returning officer is going through every possible permutation of those votes. When he’ll finish, no-one knows.”
“But don’t be expecting it any time soon… this looks very much like dragging into a fifth day and possibly beyond.”
Just one vote in it between Willie Penrose and James Bannon…
Ciara Conway is packing up her office, and there’s something poignant about this tweet:
Putting it all into perspective…
Just to recap, the full recount was requested by Fine Gael TD James Bannon, and began at 10.30am today.
It’s a very tight count so far, and still thousands of votes yet to be recounted.
We have some movement in Dublin South Central – but it’s not happening in public:
A Soc Dems update for you – they got three seats in the election. Now they’ve circulated their document on political reform:
Another update from Cianan Brennan who’s at the Dublin South Central count:
Bríd Smith has won the seat.
We’ll have some more updates and video with you in a moment.
Before this year, Bríd Smith had unsuccessfully contested four general elections, starting in 1997.
She has waited 18 years, 8 months and 25 days for her first win – the longest of anyone in the new Dáil.
Bríd Smith said after her win:
Fianna Fáil said water charges are a red line issue, well they’d better bloody well follow through on that.
We will make sure they stick to that, me and Richard
She added:
Labour, we’re as big as you now, don’t forget it.
I promise to do my damnedest to represent you and if I don’t sure you can shoot me.
‘The workers, united, will never be defeated.’
It’s been a long time coming, both in terms of years running and now days counting, but Bríd Smith is now officially a TD.
Here’s the moment herself and hr supporters deservedly celebrated.
You might be wondering when the first sitting of the 32nd Dáil takes place.
Well, it will convene at 10.30am on Thursday 10 March, and there will be two things on the agenda:
But will the make-up of the government be agreed on by then? Unlikely.
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Journal, would love some more coverage of the TTIP. I feel if people truly understood the extent of it and the parties in favor we just MIGHT have a different Dail next time around.
Frack off.
hi Robert, hows thing in fg ?
I’m right of centre, there’s no party for me in Ireland mate.
lobsided is that what you mean? your a die hard fg’er
don’t bother with the denials
Or NAMA. No commenting allowed on that article funnily enough.
There are so many horrific articles in TTIP that there’d be a disconnect with the majority of citizens. I almost feel it myself.
Mainly because it beggars belief that there are groups of international highly organised elites who believe that their demands are justified and somehow not entirely insane.
A die hard? OK then……I was a PD supporter before they disappeared. FF and FG are not right of centre parties. They’re budget deficit, high tax and spend parties.
What about Renua Rob?
Not into the Church myself and am pro choice.
yea right, set up a committee
Agreed Iurach. Censorship on the important stuff like NAMA. Crazy stuff and nobody really questions why the documentary was aired AFTER the election and tgr Slab trial was the very DAY of the election. It’s really time for people to wake up out of their collective coma
@Mr Magoo, the BBC kept it a secret, they only announced the show was to air hours before hand, i assume this was to prevent legal interference with the show that would mean it couldnt be shown.
Go away
Not you – Cousins
How about NO, Rashers? How very left wing of you, wishing to close discussions with anyone who doesn’t share your woolly views.
Rashers isn’t left wing Robert, how very dare you!!
I distinctly recall you posting a LOT in the last year about how you would be voting FF Robert and how others should too..
FF?! I said I’d be voting FG Brendan. But I’ve no party loyalty, I voted FF/PD in previous elections for instance. Who’s best for the economy, that’s who I go for. But we actually have very poor choices here as we have no right of centre parties. We just variants around the same centre left theme of budget deficit spending, borrowing billions to maintain high spending and no reforms of the PS or the welfare system.
Honestly I could have sworn that was you, but it may have been someone else, if I’m wrong I apologise.
You only had to ask! :-D
Mr Magoo, come one now. The Slab Murphy trial date is not some grand conspiracy. The only thing sinister about it were his SF bodyguards ‘just following orders’ by photographing journalists and their cars as well as trying to keep them trapped in the car.
And I severely doubt the BBC wait till after the election to air that documentary. Ever think they don’t really give a f*ck about the Irish General election?
No worries, I’m sure we all look the same to you!
Is that what happened Peter? They were photographing journalists and trying to intimidate them?
Magoo it’s time to get over the victim complex. Slab Murphy is exactly where he belongs and hopefully Lowry will follow him soon. It would have been far more beneficial to the government if he had been sentenced a few days before or even a week before the election, the column inches it would have generated would have been far more damaging to SF than having him sentenced on the day of voting.
Did you ever once stop and think that maybe SF should shoulder some of the responsibility for the bad press they get?
Sorry I’m late. here you go. http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2015/march/tradoc_153263.pdf
Is it true that you can get 10 onion rings in Burger King for Two Euro?
luke I gave you a green thumb regardless of the onion rings in bk
Or you could just buy a jar of Krisp’n'dry for €1 and drink a quarter of it from the neck.
The last count puts Willie two votes ahead of his nearest rival, and in place for a seat. Why do you say he is the next to be eliminated? I know there is a recount this morning, but you are jumping the gun a bit!
Yep, shoddy analysis from Sinead. If Bannon gets eliminated, you’d imagine his 7000 transfers are more likely to elect Penrose than the Shinner.
Yes, Willie went from 19 behind to 2 ahead through the distribution of 71 surplus from Boxer. Willie might have more chance than Aodhan of getting in.
Peter, Penrose is in last place currently. Unfortunately his transfers will elect the 2 fg guys…even bannon despite him cheating and stealing leaflets.
Nope, Bannon is by 2 votes, that’s why he was the one granted the recount
??????
Willie Penrose is 2 ahead with a recount going ahead.
I think it’s funny seeing Alan Kelly arriving to support O’Riordain …when Alan Kelly was one of the ringleaders who caused Labour to become so transfer toxic in the first place.
For the health of the nation, let us hope that O’Riordain is consigned to the political abyss. The only problem is that he’ll go back to polluting young people’s minds in his role as a school principle.
Willie has all-but conceded himself, so it’s an interesting one. Not ruling him out totally yet.
“The Shinner”, you sound like a black and tan in 1920.
Ellis hard as it is to believe he was actually a good head teacher. It’s a pity he didn’t stick to it.
TTIP is not allowed to be mentioned here or anywhere else in the inm class
It’s been mentioned plenty of times on the Journal you clown.
how do fg meps want to vote on TTIP? Robert.
or is that confidential
I don’t know about the mep’s but Edna has said he is for it. All FG in Dublin bay north are for it. SD in Dublin bay north is against. No one else bothered their hole calling.
Anyone know where all the government trolls are gone ? did their paId employment end ?
I have been waiting for powerabbey to pop up to ?
Powerabbey
Jan 28th 2016, 1:44 PM # 92 4
Matt – you can be assured that Paudie Coffey will be returned to government.
Can i just say to powerabbey , the people of Waterford gave this scroat his marching orders along with Conway , Unfortunately a lot of those same people then gave their votes to FF , But one SF and one IA member were elected as well . and in addition can i just add HA HA HA
Matt did you just say “CAN I JUST SAAAAY!”
Jesus wept i bloody did didn’t i , That shrew has me brainwashed lol
@Matt Black,
No sign of Diarmuid either.
so what your saying is neither ff or fg can form a gov without each other?
another ge please
Why not all parties go into talks on reform first Ciaran? If we still need another GE after that so be it. Nothing lost.
Still going?
If only we had, I don’t know, some electronic voting machines or something…?
You’re famous Bogger!!! They just quoted you in the article. Quick everyone say something witty!!
dick!
Whatever you’re into Ciaran, you’re free now to follow your passions.
ff looking good for you now?
Let’s just say I’m interested to see where all this leads…..
micheal will be Taoiseach, are fg the new labour?
Alan Kelly there to support Aoghan O’Riordain? He wasn’t very supportive of his colleagues when he was celebrating like an arsehole despite being director of elections of Labour’s worst ever election.
Some Director of Elections, did more than anyone to turn voters against his party. His gung ho arrogant attitude turned people off and was a major contributor to citizens having a big dislike for the Govt, even Enda Kenny would be justified in blaming him for the collapse of Fine Gael and Fianna Fail should try to keep him at the forefront of the Labour party, he’s good for everyone except his own Party.
I’m glad O’Riordain is gone, he’d have turned Ireland into a giant Calais jungle.
Anyone who considers themselves left wing or progressive and then celebrates Aodhán Ó Ríordáin losing his seat to Seán Haughey needs to have a long hard look at themselves.
@Ignoreland,
O’Riordain was just a phony.
It feels wonderful to use the word “was” with this fellow.
Does anyone know what the rules around recount are? Can people just keep requesting and requesting recounts? At what point do they say enough is enough?
Hi Beano,
They can request rechecks and it’s up the discretion of the returning officer. They can turn down requests for full recounts.
Sinead
tell that to avreil power wife of fionann sheeeeeehan good friend of hughs
oh so their not good friends? just have a common goal in fg in common or do they aspire to the same job
@Ciaran scary isn’t it there really is no free press, what they don’t directly own ouright they infiltrate with their type. Hugh has been very obviius in his sympathied all along. We need some budding entrepeneur to set up a really fair unbiased paper but I supposr thats very difficult when you don’t play ball with the golden circle.
“really fair unbiased paper”
As opposed to fg’s Indo,a biased rag about to be shut down.
either my computer says no, or there is something very fishy about this article.
contributors 0, journal 1
There also seems to be a gagging order on the NAMA revelations, barley covered in irish media, comments disabled.
what do you mean? spotlight? peter robinson, frank cushinahan? nama? Michael nnoonhan, nah just poppy talk, exchequer funds my fg
funny the thumbs just keep disappearing
Congratulations to Brid Smith on success after a pretty gruelling process. Confusion to FF!
“Dail reform” is the newest act of Fianna Fail political grooming, equivalent to slipping of a box of chocolates to an obese person that had been trying to be good. The idea is the same as eating sweets: it looks good, it tastes good, but you have that nagging feeling at the back of your mind that you starting to self-hate again, and, tragically, rip the colourful box that the nice Mr Martin has waved under your face.
The settled truth of the matter is that the key assumptions underpinning the nature of Irish social policy will remain untouched by any of the reforms proposed by Michael Martin.
Assumption 1. Health inequality in profound and fully rooted into Irish society. The two tier nature of Irish health demands that, (a) people who pay a private insurance premium will continue to have an advantage conferred upon them, over the low classes, who don’t “pay” extra. (b) The Irish medical profession has grown fat on the two tier system. They have the power (freely given by successive governments) to run down the public system, exploit its funding for training, emergency services, cancer treatment, etc, but, then, get to drive down the road in their Merc or BMW to perform elective procedures at increasingly prolific “private” facilities we all know so well, from all those radio and TV adverts.
Assumption 2. Only those with no capacity to dodge tax can be fully taxed. Ordinary, sitting duck citizens pay between forty and fifty percent of their income in taxes to pay for an ever evolving and expanding public service. Access to decent education, transport, and health are vital elements of any competitive, modern society and economy. However, the assumption is that business and especially US multi nationals cannot and will not pay a fair contribution to such services, services that those businesses and corporations depend upon. The deference we adopt to the idea that the already low tax rate of business cannot even be fully applied, is akin to national prostitution.
Assumption 3. The Irish media will continue to act slavishly on behalf of the proponents and beneficiaries of the first two assumptions. The degree to which the media here attack and undermine anyone that questions the status quo is deeply disturbing. The role Denis O’Brien enjoys, controlling and directing the disgraceful INM group, acts as a cancer, corroding the fabric of Irish public discourse. RTE, too, has been reduced to a body that will willingly pounce like an attack dog on anyone that challenging assumption 1 or 2.
No amount of grooming of the opposition in Dail Eirean will change any of this. It will, however advance the charge of Michael Martin, who’s only ambition is to get back to the glory days of overarching control of Irish society on behalf of the architects and beneficiaries of this failed republic.
I’m not a tree hugger but to see the amount of cable ties left behind from campaign posters pretty much sums up the view our political parties have of society when it’s not lining their pockets… is it any wonder the electorate f*ckin despise them?
The amount if litter left behind is disgusting alright.
YAY!!! It looks like Liebour have now lost their speaking rights in the Dáil. No more listening to cannot understand normal things iMoan
Penrose is sticking in there like a limpit on a rock. Feel for the counters
So now basically all the people who I didn’t give any preferences to in Dublin bay north are the ones who got elected….. Marvellous!!
Live Blog? Dublin bay has finished over 30mins ago!!!
You poor guys seem to be either VERY sleep deprived or you are slowly losing your minds.
locked buddy!
What’s the latest about penrose?
Squeaky bum time I’m Labour HQ. They need at least one of these seats to get those speaking rights.
slapped bum time or a reddin arse
I’m only following this for the Gifs.
More Britney?
Over the past few day’s, Ive read a reassuring comment” thats democracy ” this is used by those who advocate the status quo, “culture of lies”. I think Donald Trump may have stumbled onto a really good idea, let’s punish corruption in politics. Let’s have a democracy of accountability and let’s loose the one that gives rewards for corruption….
Let’s not bring the blowhard and BS artist, Trump, into this discussion please.
Sinead, you talk about “last two seats” in Dublin Bay North, it’s a 5 seater, three left, no?
Argh, long 72 hours! Thanks Geoff, changed now.
no more small 3 seaters please. Longford constituency??? We have enough of parish pump politics thank you very much. I think the pr-stv system is an issue due to its geographic nature. While previously I have been against a list system, I think 50% list and 50% constituency is a good way to go. That way you can vote for your local TD, but also vote on policy, so if for example you are a Social Democrat, but there is no Social Democrat near you, you can still elect one via a list.
have your say