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FG ex-lord mayor plans court action if charges scrapped and refunds denied

Are we about to see another set of protests – this time of people demanding their money BACK?

A FORMER FINE Gael councillor and lord mayor of Dublin has said he’ll launch a legal action in the event that the incoming government scraps Irish Water, and refunds aren’t issued.

“I would go in and take a case against the State for the two-thirds of people who have paid or are paying their water charges,” Gerry Breen, who served as lord mayor between 2010 and 2011, said this afternoon.

Defending the process of charging for water, he insisted it was a “sensible” option, and said people should be treated equally no matter what happened to the contentious utility.

Speaking to Liveline, Breen said he estimated it would cost some €200 million to refund those who had already paid their bills, adding that he didn’t think it was “in the gift” of newly-elected TDs to decide refunds shouldn’t be issued.

16/6/2011. Bloomsday Gerry Breen pictured with Senator David Norris in 2011. Sasko Lazarov / Photocall Ireland Sasko Lazarov / Photocall Ireland / Photocall Ireland

The issue of Irish Water and water charges has been back in the spotlight in the last number of days, in the wake of heavy losses for Fine Gael and Labour in the general election.

The arithmetic of the new Dáil, following a boost for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin, the AAA-PBP and other left-wing politicians, means there are now a majority of TDs who want charges either scrapped or suspended.

Speaking this afternoon Taoiseach Enda Kenny said that despite indications the charges would be up for discussion as politicians worked to form a government, people should continue to pay their water bills.

It followed remarks from Fine Gael defence and agriculture minister Simon Coveney last night that the party would be “willing to talk about water”.

FF v FG 

Fianna Fáil, which is just a few seats behind the FG tally in terms of seats in the new Dáil, wants charges suspended. Reiterating his party’s stated position during the campaign, Fianna Fáil’s Dara Calleary said today they had made it clear in recent weeks that “we would not give refunds”.

Fianna Fáil has made clear that it will push for management of water supply to be returned to local authorities, and for Irish Water to be downsized into a national oversight body modelled on the National Roads Authority.

Kenny said today that his party would be willing to listen to anyone who might have ideas on forming a stable government. However, he said he believed it would be “a seriously costly and seriously historic mistake to move away from having a single national utility”.

“It’s a fundamental issue for Fine Gael here that you have a single national utility for water and that you have a fair and affordable contribution,” the Taoiseach added.

In a statement in January, Irish Water confirmed that 61% of customers had paid water charges – up from 55% at the end of the previous billing cycle.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:07 PM

    Best not to say how old you are. The government will probably find a way to demand more tax

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:24 PM

    @Marc Power: Agreed, They want us plebs to work until 70 while they swan off at 50 with numerous pensions and directorships.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:26 PM

    @Marc Power: In fairness Marc they do need to know how many extra trolleys to order for our hospitals…………..

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:50 PM

    @David Huston:
    Once again, since about 2011 a government minister cannot receive more than one pension related to the highest position they attained and not until they get to normal retirement age.
    Directorships are a matter for a company and not paid for the taxpayer.
    Maybe you didn’t know but it seems a lot of commenters throw out statements like yours, a flat out lie, in the hope it cons a few “plebs”

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    Jan 13th 2018, 7:09 PM

    @P.J. Nolan: Enda Kenny’s pension pot would have cost a private sector worker €5.2 million. Excessive by any standards.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/financial-services/public-sector-pensions-worth-millions-new-figures-show-1.3143604

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    Jan 14th 2018, 1:52 AM

    @Sean:
    Agreed, his pension is related to his salary and that salary was too high.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:14 PM

    might reach the 100-and get the cheque from the government.

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:18 PM

    @TheBluffmaster2: it would probably bounce frame it instead

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:24 PM

    @Jonathan Power: I’d frame it, Might be worth something in a thousand years all going well……

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    Jan 12th 2018, 7:33 PM

    @Jonathan Power: well I don’t think Michael D will be giving it to me anyway.

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    Jan 13th 2018, 7:12 PM

    While Nanny State says No Smoking! No Drinking! No Gambling! No Drugs! Just DIE as we can’t afford you to live beyond you’re TAXABLE Years.

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    Jan 13th 2018, 9:34 PM

    @B.J.Elmes: No Gambling? No Drinking? What State do you live in?

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    Jan 13th 2018, 7:40 PM

    healthy life years??? tbh there’s nothing healthy about society these days,,, you’ll have 120 year olds addicted to social media etc when the average human age reaches that, IF it does!!!

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