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Mattie McGrath suspended from Dáil over row with Ceann Comhairle

The Dáil votes 98 to 47 to boot out Mattie McGrath, after a dispute about which members can speak and when.

TIPPERARY SOUTH TD Mattie McGrath has been suspended from the Dáil this morning following a dispute with the Ceann Comhairle, Seán Barrett.

The dispute arose during the Order of Business this morning, when McGrath was told he could not speak on a certain point because Joe Higgins, the nominal leader of the Dáil’s technical group, had already commented on it.

The Ceann Comhairle insisted that Standing Orders meant only party leaders, or the heads of the technical groups, could make contributions – but McGrath continued to interrupt a vote, seeking clarification on why he was being blocked from speaking.

The Ceann Comhairle then ruled him out of order – and, as McGrath continued to complain and refused to resume his seat, asked him to leave the Chamber.

McGrath refused to do so, leading Barrett to call a vote which was passed by 98 votes to 47, with Fianna Fáil, Sinn Fein and the Technical Group voting against the ejection.

Independent TD McGrath attempted to clarify his stance after the vote, but was refused an opportunity to speak by the Ceann Comhairle who insisted he leave immediately.

McGrath becomes the third TD – after Richard Boyd-Barrett and Éamon Ó Cuív – to be ordered out of the chamber in the current Dáil term.

Listen to the exchanges between McGrath and the Ceann Comhairle >

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    Mute Brian Walsh
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    Nov 21st 2011, 10:03 AM

    I’m sorry but either this headline is misleading or we’re being mislead, the headline clearly says “drop in Irish medical costs” but goes on to mention going to places like Spain, Belgium, Germany, UK, Northern Ireland, Tunisia and Hungary. Not exactly shopping local is it?
    How can they seriously claim this is an example of a drop in IRISH medical costs, it isn’t, it’s an example of how Irish medical costs are still higher compared to going abroad. Need a hip replacement? Well it’ll cost you here but if you want to hop on a plane, fly around Europe and see the sights it’ll still be cheaper abroad… but believe it or not thats just an example of how cheap we are. Honest… no seriously.

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    Nov 21st 2011, 10:08 AM

    Hi Brian – the drop is in Irish prices since the last index on Irish prices, which was in Spring 2011.
    It’s not a drop in Irish prices compared to EU prices – apologies if that wasn’t clear,
    As for the figures at the end of the article, that is to illustrate the point that the costs differ between countries.
    Thanks
    Aoife

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    Mute Brian Walsh
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    Nov 21st 2011, 10:21 AM

    The article clearly says “The survey also shows there is a variation of up to 70 per cent in some treatments, with some people able to save up to 50 per cent by travelling abroad to countries like Spain, Belgium and Germany for treatment.” This would seem to suggest that Irish patients can save on their treatments by going abroad, for example it makes no distinction on Laser Eye Surgery between going to Dublin or Hungary, just that a major saving can be made.
    On knee replacements they make no distinctions between shopping around within Ireland or abroad “Patients requiring common but more invasive medical procedures, such as knee replacements, can make savings of 9 per cent or c.€1604 by traveling to Connaught from Leinster. A further 30 per cent saving can be achieved by engaging the services provided by Avantis Health and having the procedure in Spain.” To be fair I do know of people who have travelled abroad for treatment, and it was much cheaper than here. We are being ripped off here.

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    Nov 21st 2011, 10:26 AM

    Hi Brian
    yes the article says that as a lead on from the initial point that Irish costs are in general slightly lower than in the Spring time of this year. The points are separate but connected:
    - Costs have lowered in Ireland this year
    - It costs less for certain treatments in different areas of Ireland
    - It costs less for certain treatments in European countries compared to Ireland
    This would suggest that people can shop around both in Ireland and abroad.
    But this is separate to the point that the costs have lowered in Ireland.
    The figures are included as examples – unfortunately I do not have the space to include all of the details for all the treatments outlined in this article.
    Hope that is clearer for you
    Aoife

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    Mute Eoghan Ryan
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    Nov 21st 2011, 10:34 AM

    The “article” is a press release from a company that makes money from people purchasing healthcare abroad, so I’d take everything it says with a large pinch of salt.

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    Mute Eoghan Ryan
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    Nov 21st 2011, 9:25 AM

    Yet again a press release from a company is dressed up as news. This is a bit like McDonalds releasing a “study” showing people can save money in burgers by shopping around and using their outlets.

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    Mute jrbmc
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    Nov 21st 2011, 9:26 AM

    And you wonder why people cross the border!

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    Nov 21st 2011, 1:37 PM

    Just wondering how breast augmentation costs an average of €2.7k in Ireland when the average for the provinces and Dublin are all above 3k….figures don’t seem to add up.

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