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In pictures: The MH17 crash site

Just outside the town of Grabovo, the wreckage in which 298 people lost their lives lies. Here’s what it looks like.

THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY is scrambling to react to the downing of an Malaysian Airlines flight over Ukraine yesterday.

But amid the geopolitics is a human disaster, the loss of 298 lives.

Just outside of the tiny town of Grabovo, the wreckage is due to be inspected by investigators today.

Here is the view from that scene.

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Ukraine Plane Zurab Dzhavakhadze / Photas/Tass/Press Association Images Zurab Dzhavakhadze / Photas/Tass/Press Association Images / Photas/Tass/Press Association Images

Ukraine Plane Zurab Dzhavakhadze / Photas/Tass/Press Association Images Zurab Dzhavakhadze / Photas/Tass/Press Association Images / Photas/Tass/Press Association Images

Ukraine Plane A man walks amongst the debris at the crash site. Zurab Dzhavakhadze / Photas/Tass/Press Association Images Zurab Dzhavakhadze / Photas/Tass/Press Association Images / Photas/Tass/Press Association Images

Ukraine Plane People inspect the crash site of a passenger plane near the village of Grabovo. Dmitry Lovetsky Dmitry Lovetsky

At the Dutch embassy in Kiev, a vigil was held.

Ukraine Plane AP Photo / Sergei Chuzavkov AP Photo / Sergei Chuzavkov / Sergei Chuzavkov

Ukraine Plane AP Photo / Sergei Chuzavkov AP Photo / Sergei Chuzavkov / Sergei Chuzavkov

Ukraine Plane Flowers and candles brought to the Embassy of the Netherlands in Kiev to commemorate victims of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17. AP Photo / Sergei Chuzavkov AP Photo / Sergei Chuzavkov / Sergei Chuzavkov

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    Mute David Oppenshore
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    Apr 13th 2019, 10:11 PM

    Angela Kerins, the reason I no longer donate money to charity.

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    Mute Ken Butler
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    Apr 14th 2019, 9:45 AM

    @David Oppenshore: Well said sir. Money only going to pay CEO salary and outrageous expenses.

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    Mute Sega Yolo
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    Apr 13th 2019, 10:57 PM

    No charity, sporting or other such organisation should be given public money unless they first waive any ‘rights’ to protect themselves from public scrutiny of their finances. They can carry on freely without that money if they chose. Take it or leave it.

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    Mute Orla Cosgrave
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    Apr 13th 2019, 11:10 PM

    @Sega Yolo: totally agree

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    Mute Bren Oconnell
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    Apr 14th 2019, 12:02 AM

    @Sega Yolo: perfectly said.

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    Mute Ciarán Ó Fallúin
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    Apr 13th 2019, 10:14 PM

    Imagine that. Kerins took home a ludicrous salary whilst miserably mismanaging the running of a charity and somehow is managing to outdo herself and create a lasting damage on the public’s ability to hold future disasters to account…

    Just when you think you know the limits of someone’s toxicity to society, she goes and out does herself once more without even being in the room.

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    Mute Niall Power
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    Apr 13th 2019, 10:24 PM

    The Irish charity industry is destroyed by the greed of the few!
    Vote with your feet,
    Don’t give a penny to them!

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    Mute Orla Cosgrave
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    Apr 13th 2019, 11:09 PM

    @Niall Power: will never give a penny to any charity that pays their CEO and subordinates excessive salaries.

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    Mute Adrian
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    Apr 13th 2019, 10:23 PM

    The pac committee full of incompetent politicians is not fit for purpose. The questioning of the fai officials the other day was very weak, pure amateurish, they really didn’t know their brief, what questions to ask.

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    Mute Dave O'Keeffe
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    Apr 13th 2019, 10:36 PM

    @Adrian: they could have asked what day it was and still not received a straight answer.

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    Apr 13th 2019, 11:06 PM

    @Dave O’Keeffe: they’re not legal experts, they were afraid to ask the questions the other day because of the potential legal repercussions, hence the farce that it was. They need legal experts on those committees, they should be able to come to some arrangement without turning them into tribunals. A bunch of incompetent politicians protecting their own interests, paying themselves 15k fees while asking stupid questions like “how many bank accounts do you have?”, turns the whole process into a joke and achieves nothing.

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    Mute Anthony
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    Apr 13th 2019, 11:34 PM

    @Adrian: the questions were 100%. The problem was the FAI officials refused to answer. Nothing the pac can do about that.

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    Mute Marg FitzGerald
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    Apr 14th 2019, 4:03 PM

    @Adrian: They were told what they could ask “legally”. The law seems to protect the wealthy wrongdoers.

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    Mute Stephen Duffy
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    Apr 14th 2019, 3:31 AM

    People in high positions have to be held accountable in public. However I struggle with the idea of giving the likes of Ruth Coppinger and others the power to carry out public investigations and give them compellabilty. If that became the case I could see people’s good name and reputation coming second to political point scoring.

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    Mute Orla Cosgrave
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    Apr 14th 2019, 2:03 AM

    Totally irrelevant nothing to do with FAI. The FAI is not a charity – it is a business and why they kept quoting the Kerins case is s mystery to me.

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    Mute Chris Gaffney
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    Apr 14th 2019, 8:30 AM

    Looking at some of the motley members of various committees one would have to be dubious. Some are up to the task but many others fail miserably. Some are rude, arrogant, ill-informed and totally oblivious to their briefs. If they are that determined to cross the line then they should be open to full retribution in the courts. The verdict in the Angela Kearns case was spot on!!

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    Mute Darren Bates
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    Apr 14th 2019, 8:47 AM

    @Chris Gaffney: I don’t know about that, why should good TDs and Senators who ask the difficult questions be muzzled by a ruling like that? I do get that there are some clowns on these committees, and they say things for headlines and there 30 seconds on sixone so the voters back home can see them sticking up to the dubs, but the real nature of these committees should be open, honest and sometimes difficult conversations with people like Delaney.

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    Mute John Considine
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    Apr 14th 2019, 6:37 AM

    Lawmakers unhappy that the have to work within the law, my heart goes out to them.

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    Mute Quentin Moriarty
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    Apr 14th 2019, 10:23 AM

    Even if there was no Kerins ruling the public voted to reduce the powers of the committee so they are limited from the offset .

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    Mute DAVID EIRE
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    Apr 14th 2019, 12:27 PM

    Kerins is looking for and going to get a multi million damages award for her suffering at PAC ..this is the biggest joke of all.

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    Mute Elizabeth Hourihane
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    Apr 14th 2019, 9:02 AM

    Delaney puffed and bluffed and ran circles round the PAC the Kearins judgment rules thst the PAC cannor go outside its remit or in other words tits terms of reference. Once the PAC keep within its remit lile asking questions on the €1000 loan then it would not fall foul on the Supreme Courts judgement.

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    Mute Marg FitzGerald
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    Apr 14th 2019, 4:01 PM

    Who can afford to bring a case to the High Court or Supreme Court ?

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    Mute Maria Bingham
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    Apr 16th 2019, 2:28 PM

    The Courts and Judges are only there to interpret the Law and ensure it is upheld. They do no make law.

    If the PAC feel that the ‘Laws’ of our land are not sufficient, then it is up to them as legislators to change the ‘Laws’, so that their tongues are not tied when questioning individuals and agencies about their conduct. They have no one to blame but themselves for the situation the PAC finds themselves in.

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    Mute William Kelly
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    Apr 15th 2019, 1:25 AM

    1/ The Kerins issue is not case law yet, is awaiting determination on appeal, & is not relevant. Mr. D used the pending determination to ward off awkward questions, left them hanging out there, & thereby damaged his public standing.
    2/ The committee did not need to subject anyone, including Mr. Delaney, to interrogation on their income or expenses, & just stay on track about the application of public funds & FAI corporate management. The investigative journalists have put these questions out, the public are expecting the FAI to provide the answers.
    3/ Sport Ireland can with hold funding, insist on a forensic audit of the FAI accounts for the years when public funding was drawn down, & require appropriate governance structures, in accordance with the separate reviews already commissioned.

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