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Reid, left, and McCollum Connolly, pictured during their most recent court appearance Martin Mejia/AP/Press Association Images

'Peru 2' transferred to prison notorious for overcrowding

Michaella McCollum Connolly and Melissa Reid have been transferred from a low security facility, and could now be sharing a cell with as many as 38 other inmates.

MICHAELLA MCCOLLUM CONNOLLY and Melissa Reid – the young women from Ireland and Scotland who admitted trying to smuggle drugs out of Peru – have been transferred to a larger women’s prison from the minimum security facility where they were being held, according to Sky News.

They have been moved from the Virgin de Fatima prison to the much larger Santa Monica jail, which is notorious for overcrowding and unsanitary conditions. It’s reported they could be sharing a cell with as many as 38 other inmates.

Speaking to the Mail on Sunday yesterday, Reid’s father said the development was “really worrying”. He told the paper “They probably had it good in the other cell, but now it’s totally different for them”.

The two women pleaded guilty last month to attempting to smuggle just over 11 kilograms of cocaine out of Peru. Initially, they had denied guilt, claiming they were been coerced into smuggling by a shady international cartel after being kidnapped.

But they later changed their story stating they “knew they were going to transport drugs, and that they regret having participated in such an act”.

They last appeared in court two weeks ago to make a fuller confession of their guilt, after a prosecutor refused to accept their earlier plea. The women are hoping to receive reduced prison sentences if their pleas are accepted.

The pair were initially arrested on 6 August at the international airport in Lima, when 5.7 kilograms of cocaine were found in Connolly’s luggage and 5.8 kilograms in Reid’s. They were trying to board a plane for Spain, where they had been working on the island of Ibiza.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:36 PM

    Good article thanks

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:20 PM

    Cork is going to be watching the outcome of this very closely.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:03 PM

    Yes, this is a good article and I can’t help thinking that the arguments are beginning to sound like one side of a broken marriage. To those that say “Oh you’ll see, you can’t get on without me!” I say “you are deluded. Surely we’ll be happier apart!”

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    Mute Catherine Mill
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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:40 AM

    George. Scotland did not enter into any marriage willingly with the British monarchy. Like Eire , they were conquered in battle. Totally different energy signature.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:50 AM

    Hopefully and the rest of the country will be fully behind them

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:52 AM

    That was to Diggler

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    Sep 10th 2014, 10:36 AM

    That’s wrong Catherine, just google King James I & VI to find out how the union of England and Scotland occurred.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:26 PM

    They were diplo-annexed Catherine, England sabotaged their first attempt at a colony and as a result the prosperous Scotland at the time went bankrupt and signed the union. They had no oil in them days though and their wealth these days is distributed around the whole of the UK(mostly London). They would be better off independent and could look to solve their own problems like having one of the lowest life expectancies in the western world. Also for us having a healthy competition for investment will attract investors to do business over here.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:53 PM

    Scotland found oil and ended up poorer

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    Sep 10th 2014, 8:32 AM

    Lots of places find oil and end up worse, it’s pretty common.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:14 AM

    More common than not, in fact.

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    Sep 11th 2014, 12:07 AM

    We found gas, and now it’s not ours anymore – but the pipes are apparently being laid on our soil….

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:24 PM

    Let Scotland long a Provence be a nation once again.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:39 PM

    Salmond wants Scotland to keep the pound sterling even though it will be controlled by the Bank of England. He wants to retain the Queen as head of state. He wants to ditch Trident, but then has the hypocrisy to say that he wants Scotland to apply for Nato membership , thereby availing of the Nato nulear deterrent.
    All this Braveheart talk is ridiculous. Salmond is looking for half-assed independence while retaining some of the most obvious symbols of the Union such as Sterling and the Queen. Salmond is a charlatan snake oil salesman.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:57 PM

    Uganda, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Sierra Leone, Tanzania, Rwanda, Malawi, Botswana, and parts of Pakistan all use the pound unofficially. Various ex-colonies still have the Queen as head of state, including Australia and Canada. Canada is also a member of NATO. Are questioning the independence of those states as well, Scipio? Scotland has used the pound sterling since 1707, it’s just as much their currency as it is England’s. Why should they stop using it now?

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:23 PM

    I always find it funny how unionists claim to have a better understanding of what independence actually is than those who actually support it.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:39 PM

    Danny,
    Those countries do not use the pound sterling. The pound sterling is and always was a Bank of England issue, Scottish banks issued own pound notes backed by sterling.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:48 PM

    Steve, did you notice my use of the very important word ‘unofficially’?

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:21 PM

    Salmond is clever tho because if he asks to have no monarch etc then it makes it harder to get votes. The older generation love all that rubbish and it’s the old folk that vote in numbers

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:08 AM

    @Scipio Democratic Elections in Scotland can remove or keep whoever they like with no outside interference, Currency Monarchy and Nato membership will be decided by the Scottish people also as thats how democracy is supposed to work, silly scare mongering nobody on here under 5 years age

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:24 AM

    Originally, Salmond wanted a neutral Scotland along the Swedish model. Continued NATO membership is a compromise, along with a forecast 1.5% GDP spend on defence (less than the UK but three time’s that of Ireland).

    The pound sterling will likely be a halfway house for two reasons. Firstly, Scotland can return to the old Scottish pound and simply peg it to sterling. Secondly, Brussels will want the Scots in the eurozone eventually!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:37 AM

    Clearly Scipio you know nothing about the referendum debate. It is the Scottish people who will decide for themselves if they want independence, Salmond is not even liked by many of the Yes campaigners . The issues which determine Scotlands future runs much deeper than party politics.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:50 AM

    which country is Sterling in? Is that where the word sterling originated?

    Eire and Scotland were much more evolved before the Romans came and used the British to do their destruction for them for a reward of course.

    The Queen submits to the Pope and its all there in front of all of us – Pope hand over her hand in the City of London- a sovereign state of its own. The Queen needs permission to enter there. In fact she is powerless. its only people who give her power over them in pageantry style.

    All them ACTS – are mere acts- not real.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 10:05 AM

    Catherine, have you skipped your lithium dose this morning or something?

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:05 PM

    Seriously though the Scottish people would want to beware of these three going up, no doubt they have a governmental type PR stunt to pull or failing that a character assassination of the likable Alex Sammond before they go home across the border.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:08 PM

    *Salmond

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:12 PM

    Hahaha I like the way you couldnt even get the mans name right there Mr Phil. Well done.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:30 PM

    Okay Chris. Show me the depth of your knowledege and tell me what I have said that is wrong? As far as the rest of your point goes, I agree it is for the Scottish people to decide.

    Danny it”s not just as much ‘their currency’. Scotland is proposing to leave the Union not England and Wales. England and Wales as the succesor state will have full control over pound sterling, through the Bank of England. Scotland will be left currency with which they have no control over.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:54 PM

    Catherine, sorry but your talking rubbish.
    The Monarch is by law not allowed to be a Catholic.
    If you wonder why google Henry the 8th and you’ll get a pretty good idea why that came about.

    The Arch Bishop of Canterbury, head of the Church of England appoints a new Monarch on behalf of God, after the previous Monarch dies (very very occasionally abdicates).

    In fact outside the British Catholic church the pope has no power in Britain. There are still British laws on the books that preclude the catholic church from having a direct roll in British Government.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 1:11 PM

    Scipio, after over 300 years of using the pound sterling, they’re entitled to continue using it. Another commenter pointed out that they could also go back to the Scottish pound and peg it to the sterling. If you hadn’t already noticed, Scotland doesn’t have power over the pound sterling now either. You’re also forgetting all the other places around the world that use the pound sterling with no power over it.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 1:50 PM

    Scipio, the thing that is wrong with your assertions comes from your observations which say that ‘Scotlands independence will be half assed’. With independence comes sovereignty and the powers to create government without outside interference. At present the Scottish parliament is a devolved institution from Westminster with limited powers of control and fiscal responsibility. Scotland presently pays its revenue to the UK government and gets some of it back to distribute towards health and education. Scotland pays massively towards a UK defence system and in return it has to carry the burden of having the UK’s major nuclear submarine arsenal located close to expanding urban areas. Presently Scotland has very little control over contracts for oil exploration and in future under the UK they will have little control over fracking where licences are already being discussed in Westminster. Very few people living in Scotland voted for the Tory led government in Westminster and therefore they do not feel that they are getting treated fairly by the UK government. These are some of the reasons why Scots want the freedom to make decissions for themselves and I don’t honestly see anything half assed about that…do you !!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 5:57 PM

    Has anyone asked the English if they would like to see an independant scotland i believe you would be able to at least double the yes vote,let them at it ,cumbrians will be able to cross the border for the free everything that the jocks out of work flock to blackpool for now.and dont forget the beautiful northof scotland that vast loss making area that gets so much support as do the islands .Get on with it I wont miss anything .Raise the drawbridge jack I’m alright .

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    Sep 11th 2014, 10:21 PM

    Wasn’t the punt tied to the pound for decades? Why is this a bad thing for a new sovereign nation to tie itself to the currency it was already using until such times as it can join the euro?

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:54 PM

    If devo max was on the ballot,Cameron and his two flunkies would not be going to Scotland tomorrow because there would be no chance of a Yes vote.He has blown it and he’s going to go down in history as the man who lost the union.Flying the Saltire over Downing st shows that WM are now clutching at straws.Too late chaps.we WILL be a nation again.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:20 PM

    Hope so Stewie! I remember staying up all night to watch the devolution of powers vote and taxation vote; can’t wait for the referendum vote! Hope Scotland moves down the road to Independence. The Scots should be ruling the Scots and not a Government (unelected in Scotland) and ruled from another country. Scotland’s time has come.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:37 PM

    What a bunch of fools those Public School toffs will look like begging Scotland to remain their friends.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:43 AM

    Yes, and remember to create your own money etc and live long and prosper.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:23 PM

    I would love for the yes side to win but I think the scaremongering from the no side will ensure that the no vote will win it. There is some ridiculous doom and gloom scenarios being predicted by the no side at the moment, and no doubt Cameron will ask all his big business friends in the city of London to come out in the next week saying how the Scottish economy will suffer greatly if they became independent.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:20 PM

    The scaremongering has been going on for years now (remember this campaign is over 2 years old). In the same way you’re no-longer scared of the boogey-man or shadows in your bedroom – Scots are beginning to see them for what they are.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:56 PM

    We must remember that people vote with their hearts more often than their heads and there are many Bravehearts in Scotland

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:01 PM

    Most people are voting with their heads, there’s a lot of potential in an independent Scotland and the figures ares sound, but they can’t answer some of the key questions because Westminster won’t give Salmond answers unless there’s already been a Yes vote. It’s a deliberate move by Cameron

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:46 AM

    Danny. In reality Scotland needs nothing from Cameron or UK. Its all a matter of eliminating the old conditioning and entering and creating a new path through the old jungle.
    How did Cameron make his money ? Enough said.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 1:06 PM

    They need answers from Cameron, and little else. It’s the lack of definite answers that’s still turning people towards the No side

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:56 PM

    Is it correct to day that the UK does not have a constitution? (Only manga carta). So how would there be a constitutional crisis if Scotland leaves the union?

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:25 PM

    They call it an ‘unwritten constitution’.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:30 PM

    A make it up as you go along type of constitution.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:42 PM

    Pretty much!

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:59 PM

    And it was written with invisible ink.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 6:17 AM

    Manga mania!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:18 AM

    The “unwritten constitution” is built on tradition and parliamentary supremacy. But, that said, it’s becoming more written over time. Major domestic and European legislation has tied parliament’s free-wheeling independence. To be frank, they’re probably going to have a new, fully written constitution within my lifetime (that’s the best speed one can hope for from the English).

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:44 PM

    The Scottish want independence from the U.K.?
    Who are we to criticise them?

    At least it’s being resolved peacefully and democratically.

    When the oil runs out, they’ll be self-sustainable through wind power.
    Joining the Euro will only strengthen it.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:43 AM

    Aye, and they can eventually create a new currency called tourism and scotch whisky.

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    Sep 11th 2014, 12:18 AM

    Really Chris? Do you genuinely believe that is all there is to Scotland? That’s certainly true of parts of the Highlands, but most definitely untrue around and south of the M8 corridor.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:16 PM

    Free Scotland Free Palestine & Free Ireland

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:00 PM

    Free Hat!

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:54 PM

    Free England too!- English Republic NOW!!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:39 PM

    Free booze!

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:38 PM

    It’s about time all this imperial crap got the boot,all the sh!t imperialism has caused over the centuries..Scotland can be proud to stand alone

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:21 PM

    How is it better for Scotland to stay under the control of a foreign government
    Every country should be free to govern itself

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:06 PM

    I’d love to see them go independent just to see the union break up. Wales next and Cornwall too.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:54 PM

    There is some debate whether Cornwall is actually legally part of England!
    Celtic Cousins of the Bretons!
    Hopefully the Scots will start the ball rolling and before I die I will see England a free Nation, no longer wheighed down by the shackles of Monarchy and Historical Imperial Guilt!
    An England of equal opportunities-my dream! !
    A bloodless coup, a takeover by the people-will never happen though, too many mindless zombies flicking channels from Jeremy Kyle to the soaps and a raft of reality shows! – Loyal to the Queen but they don’t know why!! :-/

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:24 PM

    If Scotland was such a financial burden the UK would have set them afloat a long time ago. Of course the opposite is true, from the land settlements to the discovery of oil Scotland has had to play second fiddle to England and help to line it’s coffers. But this vote is as much about identity as it is about economics and history seems to be pleading it’s case for a Free Scotland.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:28 PM

    Also, I should say, I was a student at Newbattle Abbey College in Dalkeith. This college was a gateway into university and supported by both government and unions. The Tories closed it down in the late eighties because of its union connections. This is what a country like Scotland can do without and avoid in the future….I.e…..interference from Westminster!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 3:41 AM

    Think off all the people worldwide who died for their countries independence and all Scotland has to do is tick yes .they should .

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:23 PM

    Scottish independence will lead them to ruin just like this banana republic. Let them off if they want it. But there’ll be no going back.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:27 PM

    Spoken like a true loyalist………

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:06 PM

    This country isn’t in ruin, and it isn’t a banana republic. It’s in a fairly terrible state, but don’t exaggerate.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:40 PM

    Scotland is ignored by Westminster.their voice is not recognised under a conservative government.
    I hope they get their independence.
    Scots should decide their own fate and the future of their nation.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:08 PM

    I don’t think anyone has a clue on what will fully happen should the yes vote wins

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    Sep 10th 2014, 2:36 AM

    Pat you’re a dope! No other word for ye!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 10:53 AM

    Haha the desperation is dripping off your comment there loyalist Pat, the three stooges are scurrying up now to save their own jobs and reputation in case history remembers them as the incompetents who lost the “great” out of Britain. Scottish independence coupled with a dwindling unionist population and inevitable united Ireland on this island will be the final nail in the empire. A real Eton mess.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 11:02 AM

    What’d an United Ireland be like? What would we do with the British army, the NHS, Loyalist fleg waving knuckle-draggers, etc?

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:08 PM

    How is a united Ireland inevitable? Was the unionist vote not increased in the last election?

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:13 PM

    That is for sure. There are so many unanswered questions. Sure they don’t even know what currency they will use

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:30 PM

    How is a united Ireland not inevitable? Have you seen the fractious leaderless state of the unionist parties.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:24 PM

    ‘It is bound to have a destabilising effect on Northern? Ireland’, how so a vote will take place on Irish unity by lifetime of next assembly regardless?

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:40 AM

    How? In the six counties there will not be a majority vote for union with Ireland. Also, Ireland has to vote on the question. Don’t be so sure of a majoriry in Ireland either.

    If it was emotivie and based on history, especially before 1900 you might be inclined to say a vote on both sides of the border would go the way of a yes vote.

    Howerer, the debate in Scotland has largely bèen economy driven. If that was replicated over here, Ireland both
    North and South would vote no.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 1:20 AM

    In 2 months opinion polls in Scotland have gone from 37% against to 51% for.

    And lets not forget that the people of Dublin were lining O’Connell Street in 1916 to throw vegetables at Pearse and Connolly.

    It isn’t until these issues become live that people really start to think about the choice they are making. And often change there minds, history has show us that on innumerable occasions. When it comes to matters of nationhood things can change utterly, very quickly.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 2:59 AM

    Damien i said the vote will take place as the Deputy First Minister who has the authority has called for it to take place during the lifetime of the Next assembly before 2020 in the occupied part of Ireland the unreturned part. If it benefited the Island as a whole which it would and not needing to duplicate services, spending 30-40m a year on a silly protest over a flag that wont exist in few weeks and the annual sectarian clashes over the differences carefully fostered by the alien Government as outlined in our proclamation of the 32 county Republic . That said i will be debating with unionists on our future and hopefully the young non nationalist Scottish youth can convince them of Irish freedom also

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:46 AM

    It certainly will be interesting to see how the unionist Ulster Scots will take it if Scotland becomes independent. They are presently staying awfully quiet about the prospect.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:49 AM

    And what currency would NI use if they decided to go it alone.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:10 PM

    Because its none of our concern Chris, I dont give a damn if Scotland get independence or not. Good luck to them if they do.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 2:30 PM

    They would use Euro same as most of them do now crossing the border daily just give back the pound as Dublin did not so long ago, the Scottish unionists will be the same as the unionists in the 26 counties with political aspirations of us all being part of uk same as Nationalists/Internationalists/Republicans and others are waiting since 1169 for our freedom Chris

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:14 PM

    Good content in this article , having an independent Scotland will be a huge positive Ireland as we like competition and were well set up to meet anything thrown at us head on , also a break up of Britain our biggest trading partner would have a more balanced positive outcome for our relationship into the future,on a separate note next year is the 700 anniversary of The Battle of Faughart just north of Dundalk where Edward Bruce brother of Robert Bruce was killed , my point being we have had close relations with neighbour for a very long time here’s to a independant and prosperous Scotland

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    Sep 10th 2014, 11:12 AM

    I’d imagine we’ll create a kind of Celtic Trading cooperative with the Scots as we’re pretty much mirror images of each other and friendly competition and cooperation will be mutually beneficial.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:23 PM

    Paul Krugman writes eloquently in today’s Irish Times about the lunacy of Scotland seeking independence whilst simultaneously keeping the pound sterling.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:33 PM

    It is sheer lunacy. Krugman was right on the Euro and that was sheer lunacy as well. And it’s also sheer lunacy to believe Scotland can be an independent nation without expierencing years of serious economic pain, that disengagement from the Union will certainly bring.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:58 PM

    How was the euro sheer lunacy? It’s second only to the pound sterling

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    Sep 10th 2014, 8:52 AM

    How is it second to the pound sterling? It’s the currency of about 250 million people including the Germans….

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:21 PM

    You need to brush up on your economics, if you can’t see the fundamental problems of the Euro,(the Deutschmark in disguise). It’s been an unmitigated disaster, or maybe you have not noticed what’s going on in southern Europe.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 1:15 PM

    Diarmuid, it’s second in terms of exchange rate and power of the currency. The number of people it’s used by is irrelevant. The Euro is a strong currency, and only the pound sterling is stronger

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    Sep 10th 2014, 1:23 PM

    Italy was a mess before the Euro, and with a person like Berlusconi in power you’re really not going to have a great economy. Greece has always been a to-and-of sorts with periods of complete chaos because there’s so much squabbling. Spain and Portugal have only been free of fascist dictatorships since the 1970s and, like every country that has ever come out of an oppressive regime, are now coming out of a period of economic and political instability. Spain is still going through political instability with various separatist groups. The problems faced in Spain is similar to that of Ireland with serious over construction of poorly designed houses and apartments that led to a major market crash. Despite all that these countries are still far higher on economic rankings than almost all other countries in the world. If the EU were a country it’d be the most powerful economically and the richest, if not one of the most powerful and one of the richest. Your knowledge of history and economics has proven time and time again to be terrible, Scipio. How exactly do you think the Euro has been a disaster?

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    Sep 10th 2014, 1:26 PM

    @Danny But the euro is far stronger against Sterling than it was in years past. Back in 2000 it was about £1 to €1.70 whereas now it is £1 to €1.26. The denomination is not relevant – any currency could choose to change it’s numbers and many have such as the Turkish Lira – it doesn’t mean they are any stronger.

    (Rates from http://www.oanda.com/currency/historical-rates/ )

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    Sep 10th 2014, 3:38 PM

    The exchange rate and the strength of the currency is different. Also, they can do things to change the exchange rate, to inflate and deflate it, but they can’t actually control it

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:17 PM

    Scotland is better in the Union, but if they vote Yes then all the best to them.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:38 PM

    As a Unionist I believed over the last 2 years that this would never happen but I now believe that it will but the more I think about it the more I realise I shouldnt really care that much about it. The only people that should be apprehensive are the Scots as theres a lot of uncertainty hanging over the yes vote.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:33 PM

    The union was always a sham. A Franco/Germanic monarchy based in London claiming sovereignty over all of these islands, with a religious division thrown into the mix… was always doomed to failure.

    The North of Ireland, Catalonia, the Basque country..

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:33 PM

    The nervous ones are the bigots on shankill road.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 2:32 AM

    Shifty you are an ass as always!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 7:52 AM

    Be afraid shifty, be very afraid!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 11:55 AM

    Mick I dont believe i’ve ever spoken to you on here before so not sure how you drew up that conclusion.

    Be afraid of what Cathal? You boys must be deluded if you think Scottish independence will have any bearing on a united Ireland, theres no appetite here for a united Ireland and never will be. Let the Scottish have their time and stop thinking about your own ends for once. PS It would be funny if Scotland did get independence without even firing a shot, republicans here have been murdering people since 1921 and they are as far back as ever ;)

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    Sep 10th 2014, 11:59 AM

    Afraid of what Cathal, I clearly stated above that I dont care. It would actually annoy a lot of republicans here if they did get independence without firing a shot, maybe they could move to Scotland like they always tell us to lol

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    Sep 10th 2014, 12:00 PM

    Last reply was for Stephen not Cathal.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 4:27 PM

    Every comment you post shifty has a nervousness about it! You seem to keep stating that there will never be a United Ireland and then restating it again! We got your point the first time and don’t worry I bet you aren’t typing all these comments of self assurance with sweaty palms hee hee! Ulster says YES will be the cry someday soon! (-:

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:41 PM

    Scotland will vote to maintain the Union. The people of Scotland are not stupid. I have a bet of €1,000 at 1/2 with Paddy Power that I am confident of collecting soon.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 9:47 PM

    You, my friend, have more money than sense.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 10:09 PM

    That is an idiots bet.

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:37 PM

    Hate to say it but i reckon Banga’s gonna win 500 squid.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 2:37 AM

    Hope ya lose!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 8:28 AM

    A fool and his money are quickly parted!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 8:55 AM

    Not on your side but I strongly suspect you’ll collect.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 11:43 AM

    That’s a terrible bet

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:35 PM

    By the way Banga, you are a pure wind up merchant! I genuinely believed for ages that you were female based on that one comment last year… now I realise I don’t know any female who bets! Ok no more chivalrous behaviour towards you anymore : )

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    Sep 10th 2014, 8:56 AM

    Where is this “Southern Ireland” place referred to in the article? Cork? Kerry? Because I can’t imagine the writer could be referring to an area that includes Donegal….

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:49 AM

    The Tories always said they would cut binge drinking by 90% in the uk but this is a bit of an extreme way to do it

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    Sep 10th 2014, 9:32 AM

    This article was going well, with a few grammatical mistakes until they referred to us as “Southern Ireland”, Last time I checked my passport says “Eire/Ireland” and its legal name “The Republic of Ireland” I haven’t heard of a country called “Southern Ireland”, there is one called Northern Ireland and another called Ireland, if some people are ticked because legally Ireland is referred to the Republic then too bad, deal with it, we are not Southern Irish, we are by law Irish.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 11:12 PM

    Northern Ireland is as much a country as Southern Ireland pity the western and Eastern Irelanders with No country juan they need bring more settlers with different color or religion to divide conquer and rule misrule them

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    Sep 9th 2014, 11:33 PM

    Good article thanks!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 11:03 AM

    If Scots vote No Westminster should draw up legislation to remove the terms Scotland and Scottish from the English vernacular. It should be unlawful to fly the flag of St Andrew. Scotland should be renamed Northern Britain. Scotland should be kicked out of UEFA and the IRB. Come on Scotland. Grow a pair. Vote Yes.

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    Sep 10th 2014, 3:39 AM

    Mel says free Scotland

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    Sep 10th 2014, 11:16 AM

    No chance of Celtic and Rangers joining the premiership after independence. No BBC Scotland. No more Antiques road-show from some castle north of the border.

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    Sep 11th 2014, 10:27 PM

    At tinkertaylor who cares about BBC Scotland or football this is
    The creation of a new nation we are talking about!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 8:19 AM

    Isle of Man are voting to use the old punts next year !

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    Sep 10th 2014, 2:14 PM

    GO SCOTLAND! Be Celtic and FREE!!!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 2:13 PM

    Britain losing Scotland.And Northern Ireland.I wish it happened. I wish I could see the Queen’s face when she would say:’We are not amused’.ROTFL.

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    Sep 11th 2014, 12:25 AM

    I’d love to see her face when she has to apply for a visa to go to Balmoral for the summer….

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    Sep 10th 2014, 11:15 AM

    What happens to the union flag if that YES vote wins?

    What happens to the term “Great Britain” in the event of Scottish independence?

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    Sep 11th 2014, 10:30 PM

    Don’t care!

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    Sep 10th 2014, 6:49 PM

    Scotland if it votes Yes then we should consider much closer ties with it.
    Scotland the brave !

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    Sep 10th 2014, 10:13 PM

    Didn’t Obama sweep into office on the back of “Yes We Can, Yes We Can”? That seems out of sync with the No to independence campaign and their Obama poster.

    If Obama was Scottish, I’d say he’d be saying “Yes We Can” to independence.

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