It does it for me, like all over jeggings! :-P

Went to the beach during the good weather with a few friends, one of which is a Muslim, and she was wearing one, nobody cared and a good time was had by all. I think one person on the beach might have mused whether she was swimming fully clothed and then realised it’s none of his f-ing-business what someone wears swimming. First time I’d heard of or seen a “burkini” actually my Muslim friend, well, friend of a friend as I’d just met her, was saying that it’s actually a sign of liberalism in Muslims as, in a very strict and observant, country, or family, a woman wouldn’t even be on the beach or allowed to swim in public. This is all absurd really, a non-issue that people are taking issue with despite nobody really caring, if she was to wear a wetsuit, which a burkini basically is, with a swimming cap there’d be the same effect so assume that France will be banning female deep sea swimmers soon? Obviously not.

@marc I don’t consider it a non issue at all. You said it’s a sign of liberalism within the Muslim community well what’s that telling you. A woman wouldn’t be allowed go to the beach?? Get the flock out of here…this offends my every sensibility. The fact women are told where they can go by the men in the Muslim community makes me so angry. This oppression has to stop. The women want to wear it because they’ve been brainwashed into thinking their bodies are shameful

The burkini is a sign of “liberalism”. I’ve heard it all now. That’s some Orwellian doublespeak if I’ve ever heard it. It’s a funny one because I’m all for freedom of choice but it sounds like your friend (of a friend) has been completely indoctrinated to believe such nonsense. That’s the problem; where’s the line when someone chooses to be oppressed? At what point do you intervene? And in many cases it’s not a choice, even in western countries. A woman can be arrested or worse in Islamic countries for not covering up. For these reasons banning ridiculous oppressive clothing is the only thing you can do in this situation.

Thought you were deleting the app. Glad you didn’t!

I wish he did

They are literally stopping Muslim women from swimming as some sort of punishment for what terrorists did. Will this stop one single attack? No. Will this deepen divisions in the country? Yes. This is their religion and while it might look backward to us they don’t see it like that and will feel persecuted. I thought we were supposed to mature and more open and knowledgable? This just smacks of bullying. That’ll teach them.

sure beachmaster all the moroccan beaches are worried about is the lucrative tourist trade

A very uneducated comment

Just sayin’

@beachmaster possibly in an attempt to stop women going to the beach? According to Marc its a sign of liberalism in muslim community as most women wouldnt be allowed go to the beach!

Btw an Iranian woman won a gold medal in Taekwendo

Luke your ignorance in the topic of Islam is embarrassing. The women in MOST Islamic regions where these completely by choice.

She won bronze

Like Saudi Arabia James ?

She’ll probably be hung for coming home with a bronze.

Allah be praised

Why select an extreme country as an example for European Muslims?

@sam … lol

James, you said most Islamic country’s, I asked, like Saudi Arabia. You didn’t state European countries.

James many majority Muslim countries ban the likes of the Burqa and the full whack Hijab so I can’t see why us Europeans shouldn’t eradicate this symbol of female oppression entirely from our streets?.

Alhamdullillah….

@James you said a number of times that women in most Islamic countries wear a burka by choice. This is incorrect as it largely depends on the country’s adherence to Sharia law, in Saudi Arabia for example women must conform to strict laws, they can’t get a passport, drive, travel, or access higher education without the permission of a male guardian. They are not even allowed visit a male doctor without a male guardian present and must always cover their body.
The laws are similar in most Islamic countries with Sharia law, Pakistan, Afghanistan etc. they were more relaxed in places like Egypt and Turkey but even there Sharia law is beginning to be slowly introduced.

A Saudi Arabian sprinter, Kariman Abuljadayel, made history as the first woman from the kingdom to compete in 100 metres at the Olympics, however she ran wearing a burka like costume.
This was not by choice, in that had she chosen to run in a traditional female running costume, no matter how modest, she would likely have been imprisoned, at the least. The idea would have been unthinkable to her.
One wonders how she would have coped with urinating in front of an Olympic official to pass a drug test, had she been asked to do so.

James…. you are so ignorant. Most women who are Muslim are born into it, it’s not by choice…..same as many other religions. Although, if I was to start a religion tomorrow in which the penalty for leaving it was death and women were placed in along side camels for value……you’d be up in arms calling it a cult and looking to have it banned. Islam is backward and a poison to equality….. it should be banned, along with any religion that conflicts with our constitution.

Its quite clear what I am saying James.

I really don’t think it is Sam. Imagine if you actually had free hand at creating social policy. An extremist group commits a series of crimes, so you create a “solution” where you punish the non-extremist people who go to work, movies, and play sports just like everyone else.

Stephen I believe Europe would be better off beginning a process of de-Islamisation before it is too late. There are parts of major European cities that now look more like parts of the middle east.

It is not the first time I see direct references to “final solution” or “deportation”… That’s disgusting.

Sam you need to really study some sociology to see the greater effects of what you are proposing. Globalisation is mostly good and these incidents are a drop in the ocean.

“before its too late” -> islam-alarmism

Radicalised Muslim killed 86 people in Nice and you think the least they can is encourage the radicalization and marginalisation of more Muslims to go and potentially kill more people.!?! There is absolutely zero logic in this ban. Its exactly the type of thing that ISIS really want.
Besides, what is so offensive about a Burkini? Do they ban fair skinned children from wearing those long sleeved swimming tops?

Sam is indeed engaging in the dangerous proposition of Endlösung. But, we must not be too alarmed, for now, as the troglodytes have no traction either politically or even in private, you will come across more people in Ireland with three heads than those who share his views.

Well as long as nuns can’t wear their habits in public, or priests their collars – you know, in the interests of secularism and all…

It’s to stop the locals lynching any woman with one on.

Sam Hunt thinks ISIS wear Burkini’s…its getting ridiculously amusing around here

Well James I did say it was just a thought which you seem to strongly reject.
That’s fine…….. Then you say the following…..
“Woman is MOST Islamic countries wear the burka, by choice, to remove temptation from other men when they are married.”
Is this not exactly the point I was making??
You seem confused……

I’m the opposite David. I see a woman totally covered and I’ve got to see what’s underneath. Mrs Etherman has an awful problem with me at swanky balls, with ladies in evening dress. I’m up there like a ferret.

My point is that people think it’s an item being forced upon women by men. When in truth an the majority of the 1bn it’s worn by choice by woman out of respect.

1bn Muslim women wear the burka?!

Out of respect for who exactly?
I respect my mother, daughter, wife, sisters and all women I meet. I don’t expect them to turn into mobile fabric black post boxes to return that respect.
Now perhaps you if consider these women wear it out of a sense of fear and self preservation, it starts to make more sense.

Probably because they value their life David, no choice but to show respect to their male masters, anyone remember this horrific crime see link?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/10151287/Pakistan-Were-smiling-sisters-murdered-for-dancing-in-the-rain.html

Lol!!

You’ll find the burka helps to disguise the bruises inflicted by dominating husband’s who like to hit women.

You’re a misogynist James. If a woman gets raped do you say she deserved it because she was wearing “slutty” clothes. This victim blaming comes from the same mentality that FORCES women to cover up. Can you honestly say that every woman in these countries where it’s the law to cover up are glad to do so? Or that even if it’s not the law that a woman’s husband or father will not force her. And that doesn’t even account for the indoctrination angle. There’s a funny correlation between women raised at birth to be a muslim and those that wear head coverings. I wonder why that is. Tell the next attractive woman you see on the street she needs to cover up because she’s giving you impure thoughts and she how well that goes. What you’re engaged in is called cultural relativism and it’s nonsense. I’m sorry if I don’t buy into sexism but no amount of verbal gymnastics or bs apologetics on your part will sell me on it.

if i was to tell every woman who gave me impure thoughts to cover up the streets would be wall-to-wall veil

Like in many Islamic countries? The problem isn’t sexy women. It’s men being unable to control themselves, possibly because they think not covering up is provocative and thus justifies their actions. I don’t know. I do know there’s no such thing as “impure” thoughts though.

My point is my culture and identify is different to lots of people I work and interact with on a daily basis. I don’t like to refute them on the basis that I’m Irish.

@James Darcy,
Tell that to the relatives of the 84 innocent people who were slaughtered by ISIS in Nice on Bastille day.

Eamon is not ‘pure Irish’, he’s a Scot who doesn’t speak our native tongue.

Prouesse, stop nit picking, you know quite well what the chap means!

Prousse, read the last paragraph…..

Beach, ah I see, cheers for the clear up on that.

Lol Calm down, please.

@Chris
Yes understandable, correct thing to do? maybe not.
I just dont see the threat caused by this clothing, but then i’m not in France.
I understand the fear and the need by those in power to seem like their doing something but this doesnt create peace, only division. If this means muslims families cant go to the beach with their families how does this make france safer.

The ban doesn’t stop anyone from going to the beach.

It does stop people who want to wear a burkini. That’s the point of the ban.

Stephen, while I don’t agree with the burkini being banned, after 234 deaths so far in France after Islamic attacks, I can see why it was banned.

Now I do know that comparing 234 to the thousands of deaths lost to US and UK fook up in their country, backlashes like these, are going to happen.

This is not the fault of the innocent Muslims, this is the fault of evil backwards Muslims, who are stuck in the stone ages with their religion(same applies to other faiths too) and of the higher ups who failed at controlling the migrant crisis, leading to Europeans and Muslims themselves being killed, raped and what not.

prouesse, it doesn’t stop anyone.

If some mot won’t go to the beach because she’s not allowed to wear a burkini then that’s her problem. These chicks are not being stopped from visiting a beach.

A onesie?

A onesie is allowed at the discretion of the new French fashion police.

Onesies are a form of clothing that should never be worn outside the house, yet the Irish team wore them for the opening ceremony in Rio

Where on the stair..

Right there…..

Again, well informed commenters of the Journal are not willing to reply to a simple question.

No, you’re meant to say, ‘a little trend with clogs on’. Better luck next time.

@etherman….we’ll I declare, going clip clippity clop on the stair!

it would help if people could raise their concerns openly, but also if people who didnt share those particular concerns werent lambasted as ‘apologists’ or ‘islamists’

This repressive ban is dividing people which has been defined as a tactic from terrorists..

You are correct Prouesse.

Prouesse f. The f stands for fúcktard.

A brain damage is a little animal that keeps on making the same noise again and again. That’s all we know so far. And we don’t need more.

he’s very angry. generally.

I think he’s cranky because he got a load of sand in his burkini.

@Beachmaster

Indeed. FGM is a barbaric practice. It is common throughout Africa, where there are even “Christians” who do it, as was reported by the late Sue Lloyd Roberts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bObvzSHRKT8

“Islam does not separate Church and state as we do”

Probably the funniest comment I’ve seen on The Journal for months, thanks John.

Tariq, your favourite country in the world Saudi Arabia has indeed, state and religion as one.

Chris, on an article yesterday you were defending the Saudi regime and said you supported FGM, so I don’t think you’re in any position to point fingers.

terrible attempt at lying, even from your standards, but I’m not surprised really.

Cut him some slack Chris, he probably had one hand down his pants at the time of writing that.

Probably slacking off to a picture of his prophet lol.

Probably slacking off to a picture of his prophet lol.