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Judge's wigs have already become optional - but now the elaborate traditional robes are being replaced with a simpler, more modern equivalent. Andrey Burmakin via Shutterstock

Out with the old: Supreme Court to ditch traditional robes next week

Supreme Court judges believe the current robes, which date from pre-independence, are inappropriate for a modern republic.

THE SUPREME COURT is to break a decades-old tradition and scrap its traditional robes from next week – replacing them with simpler alternatives which judges say will both modernise the court and make it slightly cheaper to run.

The traditional coat and vest uniform, which is said to have cost almost €2,000 a year in upkeep and cleaning, will be replaced with a simpler more basic uniform costing less than half that amount.

A statement from the Courts Service said a “change was needed to an area neglected during the turbulent times of nation building, following independence.”

The changes came after the seven members of the Supreme Court, led by chief justice Susan Denham, asked the rules committee of the superior courts to prepare a chance in court rules, formally scrapping the older ones.

Those rules have now been approved by justice minister Alan Shatter and signed into law, meaning the new robes will get their first outing when the court returns to session next Tuesday.

The chief justice said this evening that the traditional outfit was “rooted in a previous, historical regime”.

“This move to a new, cost effective and dignified form of dress is not just attending to unfinished business from the foundation of the state – but is an assertion of the distinct Irish nature of our law and courts – of their independence, steeped in our own Constitution and traditions,” Denham said.

Shatter welcomed the news and said the changes marked “a dignified and cost effective new form of attire – wholly suitable to the modern Ireland in which the Supreme Court interprets our Constitution”.

The efforts of Denham and the other justices do not mark the first time that judges had hoped to change the robes: the first Chief Justice after independence, Hugh Kennedy, had also sought to change judicial attire but was unsuccessful.

The previous rules described the roles of court judges as “a black coat and vest of uniform make and material of the kind worn by Senior Counsel, a black Irish poplin gown of uniform make and material, white bands and a wig of the kind known as the small or bobbed wig.” The wig is no longer obligatory, however.

They will now be replaced with a simple black robe with two green bands on the sleeves, and a white tab at the neck.

Judicial robes in the UK – and therefore in much of the developed world – are thought to have begun wearing black after the death of Queen Mary II in 1694. The formal mourning period continued for years after the Queen’s death and led to black robes being considered the formal, everyday uniform.

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    Mute Kieran Timmons
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    Oct 19th 2012, 6:04 PM

    Hopefully their judgments enter the modern age as well

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    Mute Joseph Hughes
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    Oct 19th 2012, 6:40 PM

    Agreed wholeheartedly.

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    Mute Winston
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    Oct 19th 2012, 7:47 PM

    Can you give me a few examples or are you just throwing out a populist platitude?

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    Mute Dermot Purcell
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    Oct 19th 2012, 10:07 PM

    Kieran right on there brother are these they guys that operate without fear or favour.

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    Mute Dermot Purcell
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    Oct 19th 2012, 10:09 PM

    this one is for winston try court case no 4849p

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    Mute Oswald Cobblepot
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    Oct 19th 2012, 6:50 PM

    Great, in the same week a man convicted of a sexual offence get a suspended sentence providing he can pay off the victim the judiciary release a statement about modernising their robes and wigs. I’m thinking of banging my head repeatedly off a wall until this stops bothering me

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    Mute kingstown
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    Oct 19th 2012, 6:18 PM

    They can sit naked for all I care – it’s their salaries and the rip off fees of their peers in the opposing counsels.

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    Mute Winston
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    Oct 19th 2012, 7:51 PM

    Do you know what a Senior Counsel typically earns? Whether you care to admit to this fact or not ALL of the Judges serving in the Supreme Court have taken a pay reduction to take up their post… Who/where will their replacements come from?

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    Mute kingstown
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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:33 PM

    Clearly a lot of budding SCs on here tonight – couldn’t care less what suffering the judges have taken – they’re still earning too much money. In a week that we see a solicitor in the courts for robbing €1m from a deceased clients estate I think I don’t need to be lectured by the friends of the high living judiciary

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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:41 PM

    They are, I agree, earning a lot of money but that doesn’t take from the fact that they have accepted a reduced salary to serve the public. In relation to the defrauding solicitor you referred to, who has nothing to do with Supreme Court judges, it’s a testament to our judicial system that justice actually was served upon him…

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    Mute kingstown
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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:47 PM

    Fair points…

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    Mute Pat Allen
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    Oct 19th 2012, 7:52 PM

    Finally they starting moving into the 20th century. Now if we could only get their attitudes to sexual assault to move into the 21st that would be a real achievement.

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    Mute Winston
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    Oct 19th 2012, 7:55 PM

    Again, can you give any example of a sexual assault case being decided by the Supreme Court or are you simply rabble rousing ?

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    Mute Gerard
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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:01 PM

    You seem to have a focused interest in this particular thread winston. Are you a member of our esteemed judiciary perhaps?

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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:09 PM

    I should have been more exact that I meant judges attitude in general toward sexual assault is from another century not the supreme court specifically. But you knew that, didn’t you? I think if you check newspaper reports this week and over the last few months the decisions taken in certain cases have been despicable.
    I hope being pedantic gives you a warm feeling of smugness and superiority.
    By the way, how exactly was my comment rabble rousing? I neither sought to incite nor provoke anybody.

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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:22 PM

    @Pat, I’m not being pedantic. The coverage of the judiciary in the media over the last few years has been totally one-sided. For example, we had a referendum on judges pay that cost the state several million but only saved several thousand. A lot of people Gail to acknowledge that these people have made financial sacrifices to serve the public. They work within very strict confines of rules and procedures which are always the subject of appeal. Sure there are decisions that are unpopular and as a result they are vilified in the press. But how often have you read an article about what a great decision they gave ? How often have you heard any complimentary comments in the media about their performance? I think people shouldn’t make it a ‘them and us’ issue which is what your commits assist in achieving.

    @Ger, I’m the Chief Justice… See you in Coppers later. We’ll be wearing our robes…We’re giving them a serious send-off tonight!

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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:28 PM

    You were being pedantic but anyway I actually agree with most of what you said in that last reply.
    Except the sentences handed out for sexual assault are, very often, not sufficient for the seriousness of the crimes.
    Enjoy Coppers!

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    Mute Winston
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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:42 PM

    Shots on me!

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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:44 PM

    I’m on it like a car bonnet 

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    Oct 19th 2012, 6:14 PM

    Why robes at all ?

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    Oct 19th 2012, 7:35 PM

    if they wana portray modern Ireland its straight down to pennies!!

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    Oct 19th 2012, 8:57 PM

    Naked is a bit too progressive don’t you think ?

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    Mute Will Foley
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    Oct 20th 2012, 9:28 AM

    the judges must sentence within the confines of the law, they cannot put in more popular or ‘modern’ rulings just because. if we want a different outcome in the courts the laws need to change to enable the judiciary to prosecute and sentence differently. the separation of power exists to stop its abuse but also makes it difficult to stay current, this is not necessarily the judges fault (although not completely blameless either).

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    Mute Jesus O'Shea
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    Oct 19th 2012, 11:01 PM

    When are they going to judge the government and the bondholders ?

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    Mute Colin Lyons
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    Feb 27th 2013, 9:40 PM

    If the oireachtas gives the chief justice power and the oireachtas is the government of Ireland…well the government of Ireland is listed as a company and licensed in the the united states…

    So with respect to my sovereignty can I request to see the license to be validated and produced for legal purposes ?

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    Feb 27th 2013, 8:52 PM

    come toTralee, or even get the local news papers and compare the difference in fines between Irish and other nationality’s, does not pay to be Irish in court,,,, judges do make errors, but then they are lied to and have to believe what they here,,, and a robe does not make a difference, go to USA,, no robes and they still have courts,, we are following English , and to save a euro who cares what anyone wears in court once justice prevails, oh and enjoy coppers
    oh and jesus we don’t want them in court, they wont be fined only a few thousand and will cost tax payer millions to get the case together and pay for judges and so forth,, they have got off scot free, and one lad gone to europe and got extra money for moving and relocating his kids ha ha,, crime does pay wohoooo

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    Feb 27th 2013, 10:34 PM

    where do the judges get their authority from exactly itd like some alice in wonder land story how does a man put on a costume and turn into a judge with these special magical powers

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    Feb 27th 2013, 8:43 PM

    they are goverened by the Queen ….. BAR……..British Accreditation Registry and therefore should not have jurisdiction here http://www.henrymakow.com/hill.html

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