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Niall Carson

Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil to hold a one-day policy seminar next week

The Dáil will reconvene on 5 March to discuss the European Council meeting and the Coronavirus outbreak.

LAST UPDATE | 26 Feb 2020

FINE GAEL AND Fianna Fáil are to hold a one-day policy seminar next week in what is seen as an escalation in government formation talks. 

However, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar told the Fine Gael parliamentary party meeting this afternoon that his position on leading Fine Gael into opposition has not changed.

Varadkar spoke to Micheál Martin earlier today in advance of the parliamentary party meeting, where it is understood the Taoiseach said he does not believe there is currently sufficient basis for appointing a negotiating team or initiating discussions on a potential Programme for Government.

However, Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil have agreed to hold a one-day policy exchange next week on a number of common policy themes.

This is likely to include the matters discussed at yesterday’s meeting between the Taoiseach and Martin which include housing, climate change, health, cost-of-living, the economy, and taxation.

The two-party leaders also agreed to meet again following these discussions.

Martin said yesterday that he told Varadkar there is a “need to put a government together” to deal with the “urgent issues” people voted on. 

The Fianna Fáil leader said any government formed would have to be done so on “mutual respect” with all parties involved.

“I said to the Taoiseach we have a mandate to engage with his party and the Greens, and with independents, Soc Dems and others,” he said. “People want action that brings about real change and real progress.

We have an obligation to try to meet the public’s demand on those issues.

During yesterday’s meeting, Varadkar encouraged Fianna Fáil to continue engaging with other parties with a view to forming a government.

Fine Gael is set to meet the Green Party for discussions next week, said the party.

As talks progress, the Dáil is set to return next week.  

While the House will reconvene next week, there won’t be another vote held on who should be the next Taoiseach. 

The Dáil Business Committee met today and agreed that no vote should be held as government formation talks are not expected to have progressed significantly. 

Last week, Sinn Féin’s Mary Lou McDonald received the most votes to become the next Taoiseach. 

However, despite receiving 45 votes, both Fine Gael, Fianna Fáil, and other smaller parties, such as the Green Party voted against McDonald in greater numbers, with 84 voting against her and 29 abstentions. 

Fine Gael’s Leo Varadkar got 36 votes in favour of him continuing as Taoiseach, with 107 votes against and 16 abstentions.

There were 41 votes in favour of Fianna Fáil leader Micheál Martin becoming Taoiseach, with 97 against and 19 abstentions.

Green Party leader Eamon Ryan received 12 votes in favour of him as Taoiseach, with 115 votes against and 28 TDs abstaining. 

Back to work on 5 March 

Speaking at Leinster House today, Sinn Féin’s Pearse Doherty said that instead of another vote being taken, the Dáil will return and statements will be heard on the European Council meeting and the Coronavirus outbreak. 

The lead of the Sinn Féin negotiating team said the party had met with the Rural Independents group today, and will meet with the Social Democrats this afternoon. 

Doherty said the party has not approached Fianna Fáil again but might consider doing so in the future. 

There were combative words between Martin and McDonald during last week’s Dáil sitting when the Sinn Féin leader said Martin had a “narrow and bitter mind”.

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This followed on from comments where the Fianna Fáil leader raised concerns about links between Sinn Féin and the IRA. 

Discussions between Sinn Fein, the Green Party, Social Democrats as well as other Independent TDs are to continue in the coming days.

Doherty said the talks had advanced in recent days, with more discussions on specific policy in six key areas.

“Now we need to see what kind of common ground we can agree on,” he said. 

“We don’t want to see a second election. That would be a major failure in relation to politics and it would not be of our doing,” he said.

He added:

“As I said, we are willing to talk to all other political parties. We have a mandate as do other political parties and we respect and recognise that mandate.”

“We need to be saying we have had the initial conversations and had the discussions about the mood for change, now we need to see what common ground is there on these key issues. Obviously a minority government is one possibility but there are other possibilities.

“We have said over and over again since the general election campaign that we are open to discussing this with other parties.

“Some parties say they still won’t talk to us; that may change so we will have to see. We have to explore every option to see if a government for change,” said Doherty.

Despite talks with the Rural Independents today, Sinn Fein has ruled out any reforms of the penalty point system as well as the reformed drink-driving laws if government, which was suggested by the Rural Independents today.

“We’re not up for changing that,” Dohert said, adding that there needs to be an honesty and frankness in the government formation talks between parties. 

He again criticised political parties such as Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael for not getting around the table for talks, adding that the “play-acting” needed to stop.

“We need to inject urgency in this,” said Doherty, who added that there is disappointment there will not be a vote on 5 March, as it might withdraw momentum in the talks. 

While Doherty said he did not know when the Dáil would return again, he said there is work the Dáil can be getting on with while government formation talks continue. 

Last time around, it took 70 days and four Dáil votes to elect a Taoiseach. 

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    Mute Fionn Bohane
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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:33 PM

    After all that you’ve come to the conclusion that we sometimes have good weather in June. Lucky I’m in working reading this , if it was in my own spare time I’d be a little upset.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:56 PM

    Ridiculous nonsense. …we’re a small island in the north Atlantic with zero influence on our weather

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:16 PM

    It’s called June, you dopes.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:19 PM

    So it will snow in December so with that logic! I think you are the dope!

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    Mute Jason Twomey
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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:20 PM

    Wrong, Ciaran.

    It’s sunny every June in Ireland – it rarely ever snows in December. Try again.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:22 PM

    Exam Weather!! Exam weather!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:33 PM

    Jasyus some people will find an argument in anything..good luck lads.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:24 PM

    In fairness lads. There was a lot of work went into this article. At least acknowledge that much.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:27 PM

    Jesus, a long boring column about sunshine in June.

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    Mute Brinster
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    Jun 7th 2016, 10:32 AM

    This was cleared up by Danny Healy Rae.

    God decides the weather.

    And he send sunshine at the start of the Leaving Cert every year to punish us for teaching girls maths.

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    Jun 7th 2016, 1:23 PM

    Brilliant!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:21 PM

    What an absolute waste of journalism

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:37 PM

    Maybe stick do dealing with actual important issues for this sort of article. Leave this nonsense for that other section about “Irish Mammies”, “notions” and rubbish from Twitter.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:06 PM

    We asked a psychic cat what the best Irish name is. You won’t believe what it said…

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:10 PM

    That cat has notions

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:23 PM

    Holy moley , you know a talking cat? What did it say?

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    Mute Patrick Hurley
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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:27 PM

    Click here to find out.

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    Jun 7th 2016, 10:06 AM

    Hilarious video of Irish Mammy reacting to psychic cat.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:33 PM

    Eh don’t knock the author , some poor commenter sent in this as a fact check request !

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    Jun 7th 2016, 10:06 AM

    Yeah, and they chose to run with the stupid question.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:24 PM

    Ronan. .must read, yea right…but kudos to ur research!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:04 PM

    Weather wasn’t good for the Exams last year if anyone remembers we had a terrible Summer none of the Flowers grew well this year so far the Flowers are growing great so should have a good Summer

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:47 PM

    FACT HUNT

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    Jun 8th 2016, 1:34 AM

    I still remember myself and my mother splitting a bottle of wine while having salad in the garden the Sunday before my leaving cert and passing out in the sun. Woke up with the worst sun burn. Good times

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:55 PM

    What? A fact check about the weather? Don’t you know all the readers wanna do is comment on abortion, I hope ye are not trying to report on other issues!!!!

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:32 PM

    How in the name of God do you log in with a twitter account. I’ve been trying for days. It just won’t allow it.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 10:34 PM

    It keeps saying login error or log out of the app (no option to do this) and log back in. Over and over again.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:07 PM

    Patrick, not sure but there’s an option to log out of your Facebook account and then log in with your Twitter

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:12 PM

    Doesn’t work. I’ve tried that a few times. Tried uninstalling and reinstalling again. Tried the computer also. It just won’t work. I’m beginning to think I’m either mad or stupid or both.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:18 PM

    I’ve recommended they do a fact checking article on whether you’re doing it right or wrong. Let’s get to the bottom of this one.

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    Mute Patrick Hurley
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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:20 PM

    I’m definitely doing it wrong. Do an idiots guide to logging in with Twitter. That’d help.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:29 PM

    Do you have the twitter app on an iphone and do you use it?

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:33 PM

    Samsung Galaxy S5

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:35 PM

    Using it now. Only allows my Facebook though. It’s not a big deal but it has become an issue because it just won’t do it. Now I have to get it to work.

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    Mute Patrick Hurley
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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:37 PM

    Has anyone else experienced this? I see ye all with your Twitter eggs now and it grates.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:40 PM

    Patrick set ur twitter account with someone’s phone you known and have their permission to use.it should work then . it’s then separate from your phone.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:41 PM

    Number

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    Mute Patrick Hurley
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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:48 PM

    Thanks Sparky. I’ll try that. Seems kinda silly though. Maybe if that’s the case I’ll try to uninstall Facebook and messenger and try to log in with Twitter then. That might work so. Should be able to reinstall them afterwards again. There is nothing about this problem anywhere though.

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    Mute Patrick Hurley
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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:50 PM

    Oh I get what you are saying now. I just use their number but can still have the account on my phone. the penny drops.

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    Jun 6th 2016, 11:52 PM

    It is but it worked for me..the only problem is now I’ll have to argue with u on two accounts. Lol

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    Jun 7th 2016, 12:26 AM

    Its only one issue sparky. You might find me reasonable on others. Bloody complicated rigmarole for a stupid egg, though. Maybe they could explain the situation some bit in the accounts page. Another resentment added to the list.

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    Jun 7th 2016, 12:37 AM

    Just hope you got it sorted..I’m sure I will.

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    Jun 7th 2016, 12:59 AM

    Ah Patrick, don’t be jealous of our eggs now , although sparky’s is a nicer colour than my one !

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    Jun 7th 2016, 6:14 AM

    Jasus can I go back to bed, I thought the coffee was doing its job for a minute

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    Jun 7th 2016, 8:30 AM

    Total rubbish.
    By the way.
    Google “Hitler Weather”.

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