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President Barack Obama and Republican presidential candidate and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney participate in the second presidential debate Charles Dharapak/AP/Press Association Images

Obama claws back as race heads to wire: analysts

The second US presidential debate was close, but it went to Obama, analysts say.

BARACK OBAMA CLAWED his way back into the US presidential race with an aggressive performance in his second debate against Mitt Romney, as the election seemed set to go down to the wire.

With just one more debate to go, and the president performing noticeably better than he did in the opening face-off in Denver, Colorado, the race is essentially up for grabs just three weeks before election day on November 6.

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“I think the president had a much better night than he had in Denver,” John Pitney, professor of politics at Claremont McKenna College, told AFP.

“It was close, but I have to give the edge to Obama.”

Nearly all analysts said Romney mopped the floor with a dull and unfocused president two weeks ago, and Americans agreed; the challenger had been on the ropes after his controversial comments disparaging 47 percent of the electorate as government-dependent freeloaders, but he soared in post-debate polls.

But Obama, knowing he had to raise his game to have any hope of winning a second term, charged hard out of the gate in the 90-minute town-hall showdown, attacking Romney on his economic recovery plan and delivering a fiery retort to criticism of his handling of last month’s Libya attack.

Said Pitney:

It was a morale booster for the Democrats, and Republicans will find things to cheer too, but Obama needed the morale booster a lot more.  We’ll see if this moves the polls at all.

Several national surveys and polls in key political battlegrounds showed Romney wiping away his deficit in recent weeks, with some having him wresting the lead away from Obama.

But flash polls of debate watchers taken by three networks in the hour after Tuesday’s encounter at New York’s Hofstra University were unanimous in giving the president the advantage.

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A CBS News poll showed 37 percent of respondents felt Obama won the debate, compared to 30 percent for Romney.

Karlyn Bowman, a senior fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, said that while there was no clear winner, “Obama is back in the game.”

The subject matter bounced from the economy to taxes and from energy to China, but women’s issues loomed larger than in the first debate.

Support among women has been a mainstay for Obama, but it plunged in the aftermath of the first debate, according to several key polls.

Jennifer Lawless, head of the Women & Politics Institute at American University, said Obama would likely win women back after the debate, in which he offered them “the same fair deal as men.”

I wouldn’t be surprised that following what happened tonight… we don’t see the gender gap start to reemerge quite substantially.

The dispute over Libya, where US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans were killed last month during an assault on the US consulate in Benghazi, gave Obama a chance to rebuke Romney over his continued criticism of White House’s handling of the attack:

The suggestion that anybody on my team, whether it’s a secretary of state, our UN ambassador, anybody on my team, would play politics or mislead when we’ve lost four of our own, governor, is offensive.
That’s not what we do. That’s not what I do as president.

Pitney said Obama’s response on the Libya issue crackled with passion and presidential mettle.

“The problem for the president is, he had a good moment on Libya, but Libya is not a good issue for the president,” he said, referring to the conflicting accounts of the attack given by US officials in the days after it took place.

Linda Fowler, a professor of government at Dartmouth College, said there was no outright winner or loser at the Hofstra debate.

They each did things they had to do, and this has been a close race and it will continue to be a close race.
I think the Republicans will be disappointed that Romney didn’t put him away, and the Democrats will be reassured that the president is in full press now.

Political science professor Steffen Schmidt of Iowa State University said the two candidates “really went at each other on oil and gas and energy,” as well as tax policy.

But even as Obama called out Romney over his lack of specifics on how he would pay for his 20 percent tax cut, Schmidt said there was no stand-out winner.

“No independent undecided voters were probably moved to support either of them,” Schmidt said. “We need another debate to get this all straightened out.”

Obama and Romney meet for their third and final showdown on October 22, 15 days before the election.

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    Mute Anne De Croix
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    Feb 24th 2013, 7:47 AM

    Good luck and keep at it. Skibbereen ambulance was saved so don’t give up!

    : )

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    Feb 24th 2013, 7:58 AM

    If the government get their way, WRH will no longer be a specialist centre & Waterford & Clonmel patients will be sent to Cork which is already over-stretched & Wexford & Kilkenny patients to Dublin hospitals which are also over-stretched. Financially & Logically breaking up the South -East hospital group makes no sense. 500,000 people in The South-East are relying on WRH for specialist care. This issue is way more important than party politics.

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    Mute Joe Harbison
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    Feb 24th 2013, 9:41 AM

    Actually this isn’t true. If the HSE believed that 500,000 people were relying on WRH then there wouldn’t be a problem. The problem is that Clonmel typically refers to Cork and St Luke’s and Wexford to Dublin. Relations between the South-Eastern hospitals are fraught. The HSE plan has, until recently, to preserve WRH as a tertiary centre, but it can’t do that unless sufficient patients are referred from outside the Waterford area. The protests about the ‘downgrading’ have been loud from Waterford but absent from the areas you state ‘need’ Waterford hospital, like Kilkenny and South Tipp, but who currently don’t use it.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 1:58 PM

    Actually no Joe. A very large presence from the surrounding counties yesterday. This is part of a bigger conspiracy against Waterford, led by Hogan, Howlin and Co.

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    Mute Joe Harbison
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    Feb 24th 2013, 2:22 PM

    If its the case that there is such regional support why did St Luke’s, Wexford and Clonmel hospitals ask specifically not to be linked to Waterford in the new hospital groups. It looks like Kilkenny and Wexford will be linked to St Vincent’s and the Mater and Clonmel to CUH. My own view and most peoples view is that it would be most sensible to have a South East hospitals group, but the greatest opposition isn’t from the Government or the HSE or ‘Dublin’, it’s within the hospitals in your own region.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 3:16 PM

    Your right on where the basis for this change is coming for ok Joe, its most from a group of consultants in st Lukes, there is no point in me speculating on their motives but I honestly don’t feel them as clear cut as best care services for the region. They would be more aligned with the betterment of their own departments funding. Now we all want every hospital to be top of their game but without a regional focus to centers of excellence I don’t believe people will get the best care. There are buses running daily to WRH from wex, Kk, Carlow and tip, for cancer treatment, dialysis, scans .. These people having to travel to Dublin or cork for an identical treatment already in place in the region I think is insane.
    Putting aside the further distances and heavier traffic, St Vincents and CUH are in themselves fine hospitals, but they are stretched to capacity as it is, full trollies lo.g waiting lists and hiring embargos. It simply doesn’t make sense to me how a group of consultants would believe this to be a smart decision, The pressure that these centers are under would require them to rufuse or delay patients, or giving the feeding hospitals more ability to deal with the patients themselves?….

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    Feb 24th 2013, 8:12 AM

    It’s funny to see Ciara Conway desperately scrambling trying to save her seat. Herself, & Coffey & Deasy will find it very hard to get re-elected if this downgrade happens. 4 seats up for grab in Waterford constituency next time out. Could Waterford end up a FF/FG/Lab free zone????

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    Feb 24th 2013, 8:24 AM

    We’re already FF free. Good start.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 10:34 AM

    Coffey is a joke he jumped on this bandwagon.peacefull protests will get us nowhere come on they even had dancers at it yesterday.why arnt we picketing goverment buildings in the city on weekdays not this organised thing on saturdays going getting a permit of tge gardai to march.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 1:59 PM

    TFM. – look at the inane press releases from those three this week. A week when the future of the hospital is at stake. Says it all. Not one word about WRH.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 7:53 AM

    People who are ill are being forced to travel further and further for treatment. Is this helping in their recovery? I don’t think so! PLEASE somebody give the Dept of Health and the HSE a transfusion of Common Sense!

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    Feb 24th 2013, 9:14 AM

    It just doesn’t make any sense! I live in the North Kildare and they have taken our ambulance away on a Thursday between the hours of 7am – 7pm. Desicions and choices being made by Reilly & co. with absolutely no regard for human life. Glad to see so many people out marching, West Cork managed to retain their ambulances through sheer people power and a vigorous campaign!

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    Feb 24th 2013, 12:39 PM

    You forgot to plug the fb page Lorna :P

    http://www.facebook.com/StoptheNorthKildareAmbulanceCuts

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    Feb 24th 2013, 8:05 AM

    Local media put the crowd at 5,000-6,000.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 8:16 AM

    The South-East region has the highest unemployment rate in the country yet new companies here receive only half the support of the BMW regions. That is completely unfair & puts the region at a huge disadvantage. That needs to change.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 9:53 AM

    Just look at FG/LAb on the city council in Waterford council they got rid of the local binmen,they took the contract off the ESB workers in Waterford and gave it to airtricity in .Cork. They have put the water department into Bord Gais and their putting that up for sale.Their selling the forestry sector off to the private sector more Waterford workers sacked.They stopped the remedial work inn the council estates and sacked local builders and now they want to move half the departments from the city council to Dungarvan and take on their 6 million dept and your asked to pay property tax to pay for it.Not to forget the VEC gone to Wexford forcing the Waterford workers out of work.We dont need vandals in Waterford we have the pact sharing out the money and selling out our city and hospital.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 1:28 PM

    FG & FF support water charges and property tax. Be careful what you wish for.

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    Mute Eamonn Bolger
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    Feb 24th 2013, 2:00 PM

    Their representatives on Waterford City council are mere sheep John. And put the political party before this great City.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 10:20 AM

    Well done to everyone who attended, stand up and be strong
    Reilly hasn’t a clue trying to tell people how to run the health service he can’t run his own affairs
    Ur voice will be heard even after tis Tuesday do not give up
    Take to the streets every Saturday – what about a constant picket 24hrs a day on all government offices and TD offices – everybody does 3-4 hrs just a taught
    Well done everybody I would say there were close to 5000 people there
    But state media again playing it down 2000-3000

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    Feb 24th 2013, 9:07 AM

    The reason tertiary services in Waterford are under threat is that people from Kilkenny, Wexford, South Tipp and even some from Waterford prefer to be referred to Dublin or Cork Hospitals for complex management. The population of Waterford and environs is too small to support a tertiary hospital.
    The only way you can get Waterford to function as a Tertiary referral hospital is if you can change the referral patterns from St Luke’s, Wexford and Clonmel and convince the staff there that WRH can offer the same level of care as the large teaching hospitals. The problem is that it simply can’t offer the same services at the moment. So how do you implement the preservation of WRH? Remove the choice from people attending the other hospitals? Marching up and down the main street in Waterford isn’t going to help this. If you can persuade people to march in Kilkenny or Wexford it might.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 2:01 PM

    Joe. People from the areas mentioned WERE marching. Sweet Jesus.

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    Mute Joe Harbison
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    Feb 24th 2013, 5:36 PM

    Sweet Jesus or otherwise there have been no demonstrations on the streets of Kilkenny, Clonmel or Wexford to preserve WRH. I think the government is pretty clear that the people of Waterford are worried about losing (or more accurately being unable to support) specialist services, but the argument here is that there is a substantial demand for WRH to be the regional hub outside of Waterford and to show that you’ d need positive support from the other 3 general hospitals. You don’t have it

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    Feb 24th 2013, 6:30 PM

    According to you Joe……..according to you.

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    Feb 25th 2013, 12:11 AM

    Joe, imagine this was happening to any other city

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    Feb 24th 2013, 9:54 AM

    If you think this is bad, wait until HIQA sees that NCHD’s are working 80hr weeks…. There won’t be a hospital outside of the 4 main cities left open.

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    Mute Alan Murphy
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    Feb 24th 2013, 3:52 PM

    What are the 4 main cities?

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    Feb 24th 2013, 4:01 PM

    Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Galway.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 4:15 PM

    Currently Waterford is every bit a city as much as Galway (a lot longer than 1985). Sure lets downgrade Galway and limerick too. This stinks to high heaven at this stage, if you lived here it would be the only way you would realise the battering this city is getting from all angles.

    #theforgottencity

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    Feb 24th 2013, 4:25 PM

    Waterford isn’t a national tertiary referral centre, the problem is that LUH and GUH are referral centres with established services. Waterford doesn’t have them.
    My point wasn’t a dig at Waterford, it was a general dig at all hospitals – if HIQA states that hospitals are unsafe due to overworked doctors you can expect hospitals all over the place to be closed and downgraded, redirecting services to full referral centres, like SVUH, MUH, Beaumont, SJUH, GUH, CUH, LUH, GUH…

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    Feb 24th 2013, 8:04 PM

    Exactly. The vast majority of protestors would have been from Waterford. Bet you if did a straw poll up in Kilkenny city or Carlow yesterday most people wouldn’t have even known it was on or felt strongly enough to attend.There’s no strong feeling that this will greatly affect anyones lives outside of Waterford and immediate surrounds. Joe Harbinson is right. You can’t force the hospitals to refer to WRH just because it’s in the SE region.

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    Feb 24th 2013, 10:42 AM

    What’s up with the picture? Was someone trying to photoshop themselves tall and thin and the whole city got styled that way?

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