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OECD tax chief: 'Ireland is not a tax haven'
“Clearly Ireland does not fall at all in this category,” Pascal Saint Amans told an Oireachtas committee today.
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THE HEAD OF the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development’s (OECD) tax policy unit has said that Ireland is not a tax haven and that the country’s low corporation tax rate is not a problem.
Pascal Saint Amans, the director of the OCED’s centre for tax policy and administration, told an Oireachtas Committee today that Ireland does not meet any of the organisation’s critera to be defined as a tax haven – that there is no taxes, no transparency and no exchange of information.
“Clearly Ireland does not fall at all in this category,” he told the Oireachtas Finance sub-committee saying that “Ireland is not a tax haven”.
He said that the country was at the forefront of fighting tax evasion and said Ireland was “very far from the definition of the tax haven”.
The committee is examining global taxation structures in light of the OECD’s Base Erosion and Profit Shifting (BEPS) project. BEPS aims to close tax loopholes that allow multinational companies to avoid paying their fair share of tax.
A recent action plan has set out 15 actions to tackle evasion including preventing abuse of tax structures in different jurisdictions and greater sharing of information among countries.
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Ireland was at the centre of controversy earlier this year when US Senate committee claimed the country operated as a tax haven for multinationals like Apple.
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The government has continuously denied this as well as claims that Apple negotiated an effective two per cent tax rate with the Irish government.
Saint Amans said that Ireland’s corporation tax rate of 12.5 per cent – a bone of contention for some European countries is “not a problem in the international environment as is”.
He said that the issue of multinationals not paying enough tax was a result of discrepancies in tax systems.
“The gaps between tax sovereignties have resulted in lowering effective tax rates of companies,” he said expressing confidence that recently agreement of the G20 countries to exchange tax information would help to counter this.
Saint Amans said that the so-called double Irish arrangement, which allows companies to lower their corporate tax liability, was not a result of Irish legislation alone but “the result of the articulation of different pieces of both domestic legislation and international tax law”.
He said Ireland could not address and fix this practice on its own and that it would require international cooperation.
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I see Mallow is the only place in north Cork getting it. That’s still half hour drive from me. I will believe all this when I see it. Unfortunately companies have a habit of making big bold promises they never deliver on time or ever.
Eircom are all talk. I live 2 miles out from Mallow (my house is smack bang in the middle of the e-Fibre shaded area on eircom’s site). The best I could get out of Eircom was up to 1mbit/sec and in reality I was only getting a fraction of that along with incredibly slow ping times that made it unusable. Ended up going with 3 Mifi instead as it was the only option available to me.
Haha, haha, haha, haha, I’ve got to laugh. The greatest act of fiction since the bible. We’ve still got shit wireless broadband that breaks down on standard surfing and 2g phone.
This article is pure ‘marketing’ nonsense… free advertising for Eircom.
‘Jam tomorrow’ has long been the tactic of Eircom to try and keep customers on rubbish and expensive services way behind other countries’ provision.
And as for promises for rural areas…. you would really have to believe in fayries if you think Eircom or much any other networks could give a monkey’s about you.
Life in no motion, ask them for a separate router then. I have Horizon and it works fine. However when they installed it they placed it on the 20htz frequency. I asked them to place me on a different frequency (you could do this yourself with the old routers) and my speed doubled. There are many reasons for poor wireless speed. Have you tried connecting directly with an ethernet cable to check that you are getting the speed you are paying for? if you are getting the speed when directly connected then the problem lies with your wireless connection and there are various tweaks that can get things working again. Its all a pain in the backside though when you encounter these problems and UPC (like all providers) are not very helpful. They will check your speed from their end which is what you should be getting when directly connected but if the problem is the wireless connection then most providers don’t want to know as the problem could be caused by any number of factors. I feel your pain!
eircom will always rob you eventually, they know nothing else. upc offer you deals the longer you stay with them. much better service. nothings changed here. they can stick it on the moon for all i care.
I note they’re still using the phrase “up to 100mb”, a friend lives 1 mile outside a major town and applied for the fastest connection he could get, 24mb broadband. He was told however they’d only guarantee him 1mb, of course he’d have to still pay for the other 19mb too.
Until we have a guaranteed minimum download speed then I’ll take all these claims with a pinch of salt. If they truly believe them then they should have no trouble backing those claims up with minimum guarantees, until then. Heard it all before.
We have access to 100mb broadband. Had it installed and ended up with 55mb but it would drop the connection over 20 times a day. Eircom are brutal, ended up with 7mb that only drops 5 times a day. Waiting weeks for someone to call out
That unusual, did you give them a call? It can depend on the profile you are on and you could have been assigned the wrong one. eVision limits your top speed as it needs a more stable profile.
E-fibre hasn’t been perfect but it’s generally alright and slowly improving I think. The routers are bit cheapy which is annoying but they wouldn’t be the first to do that.
I’m having similar problems with them, my DSL signal cuts out nearly every hour. We had a technician come out to fix it and still the same, but when I ring eircom support, they don’t keep your history on file and I have to repeat the problem to a new uninterested person.. terrible service.
Same problem, DSL cuts all the time. Had a technician out, he changed the socket and the router. Problem started as soon as he drove out so called eircom and they said there was a problem at the junction box on the street and they would send someone out in a couple of days, until then they would turn our speed down to 7 so we would have consistant broadband. Brutal customer service. Had a nightmare getting it installed in the first place. The previous tenant had an outstanding bill so they said it would take a few days to install the broadband. 4 weeks later and 10 phone calls we finally got it in after been lead around in cirlcles by all the different customr service people.
Our DSL is constantly dropping too. We’ve rang Eircom numerous times and all we got was a new modem. No joy. It still drops 4 or 5 times a day. This must be a problem for them countrywide.
If you live in a urban and have fast broadband already you will get faster broadband, if you live in a area just outside a town or built up area your probably still fecked, somehow i think ill still be on my 0.7MB upload / 0.1MB download from eircom for quite some time yet…….
Michael, actually I think these new initiatives have a real chance of delivering fast broadband to most towns and villages. I still think there is going to be a problem outside of those towns and villages as the cost of fibre to the door is prohibitively expensive.
I’m from the countryside in Dublin. It would be nice to actually get any kind of broadband here. Currently Eircom says they will maybe do it when upgrading the lines in a few years, but they have been saying this since 2007 so I won’t hold my breath. They will give broadband to the newly built houses in my area but not to their long time customers.
I wouldn’t bet on Eircom providing any broadband, I live in a bit of a rural area in Dublin 15 too, and high speed internet ends about 200 metres away from our house, Eircom said, they could maybe provide us with 3 Mb/s but couldn’t guarantee it and wanted 60 €/month for this, so I’m using my mobile as router for my laptop
Ye for services provided by Netflix and YouTube! Rte should have been privatised years ago. Keep tg4 and use it for public service broadcasting and radio one. That’s all we need.
Wow! This is almost as good as Pat Rabbitte’s promise of broadband available to every home & school by 2014!! We all know Pat’s as good as his word – he wouldn’t just ‘say’ something to get votes in an election, now would he!
Was with Eircom for years and had nothing only unreliability. Would drop out about 3 or 4 times a day and customer service used to blame everything from congestion to weather.
Years ago I moved to BT which is now Vodafone and have had no problems since. I’m paying 35 Per month for over 7 years with unlimited usage. It’s now down to 32.50 per month because I’m a Vodafone mobile customer too. It 100 mb fibre and i’m generally getting 70-90. Eircom ring me every couple of months still to change back. I keep asking them can they compete with 35 per month and they still can’t. I see Eircom are advertising 24 per month offers and the at the end of the ad they say it’s only for the first 6 months of an 18 month contract. After that it goes to 45. Unreal that they still can’t compete.
Vodafone ha I’m having nothing but problems with them since they took over utv customers lines slow speeds same bull every time I ring. Could count on one hand the amount of problems I had with utv in 10 years now vodafone service is bullsxxt.
Load of shite, especially for small towns and rural areas across the nation. As for 1000Mbps, lol I’ll believe it when I see it but I’m calling bs on that. It was only 2 years ago Google announced 1000Mbps fibre and I doubt we’re going to get the same speeds this soon. The UK hasn’t even got 1Gbps (1000Mbps) speeds and I’m pretty sure their infrastructure is a lot better than what it is in this country.
UK = FTTC (Fibre To The Cabinet)…. The last few hundred metres are over copper and in some cases aluminium still. What is being proposed here is FTTH which is capable of a hell of a lot more long term than 1Gbps. If Eircom are investing in this type of infrastructure it is nothing but good news. Even an up front cost to the consumer of a couple of hundred euro would be well worth it in the long term. Fibre into the home is a huge future proofing measure.
BT and Huawei have successfully proved data rates for broadband of 3Tbps using traditional fibre. The future is fibre.
Ryan the UK infrastructure is not better than Ireland. They have the same problems we do especially in rural areas. There are few countries that do not have these problems except those where either the state has massively subsidised investment (e.g. Sweden) or where they have large urban conurbations (e.g. Sth Korea and Japan). Of course we could have done this in Ireland if we hadn’t sold off Eircom to asset strippers. The key is fibre connectivity to the door. This is expensive outside urban areas and not commercially attractive. However, with the backbone now beginning to be put in place there will be opportunities for commercial operators to move into areas of Ireland that currently do not have broadband and to improve services where there is broadband. A lot of this is driven by simple old fashioned economies of scale which may be offset by new technological developments.
True true. Fibre to the building or fibre to the home is totally different to the current fiber broadband offerings where the fiber stops in the cabinet and becomes copper once again. Looking forward to seeing the technology rolled out to all areas, will be amazing once its live!
I’m in Tralee and I get about 46 Mbps which is decent enough on a 50 Mbps line. It can be a bit odd sometimes but I’m happy enough with it. It’s eircom and I also a 4G signal on my Three phone. BUT it would be nice for there to be a pricing war which included phone, broadband and mobile for one rate. My mobile bill is €40 so that’s €90 a month.
Just getting my horizon box and new modem from UPC today, up to 200Mb from 120Mb and started with 50 2 years ago and all this in Sligo, couldn’t be happier.
maybe they should focus on getting rural Ireland more than .1mb per second in the near future. I understand their computer says we have an 8mb line, but that’s not what actually happens. It’s insulting to be charged the same amount for our connection as the 1000mb people are paying. we should be charged 10,000 times less in fact. We should be paying 1c every 4 months…
Before tgey go installing fast broadband for some areas maybe they should try and deliver national broadband coverage first???
Excuse the expression, but”it all sounds a bit irish to me”
What a pity someone out there can’t sort out the rural broadband issue, I live one mile from the main Killarney to Tralee road and have broadband “speed” of 0.8mb, dark ages doesn’t begin to cover it. Have tried everywhere but can’t get decent coverage. Would go satellite but they have cap on monthly usage.
This is great and all, but rural Ireland will be completely forgotten again. Living 10mins from Mullingar town and can’t even get a connection from eircom, never mind 100mb/s connections.
All we can get is 3 mobile broadband. Capped at 60Gbs per month and go 700mb over that and they charge you an extra 35 quid.
Which is why evision for all the slating some give it now will be very successful in the long term.
IPTV is a technology platform which is cheaper and more flexible than Satellite. BT is probably going to overwhelm Sky in the UK eventually and they already have roughly as much Sport as Sky. eVision is cheap and good enough for those who don’t want to spend to much on TV. It’s improving bit by bit and the addition of an on demand service was nice.
It’s still a long way from a top notch system as you can’t control it over the internet with an App if you forget to schedule a recording. You also can’t sling content over the internet from your box at home to devices like a phone or tablet a la Slingbox yet. But it’s ultimately going to be more capable of those kind of things as an IPTV box than a Skybox.
I feel as if I’ve read the same story and heard the same promises year on year for God knows how long. And to be honest, I think the outcome will be the same as it always is. Decent broadband available in a small number of central hubs, and the rest of the country are left to dangle with an (often crappy & overpriced) dongle or perhaps no coverage at all. As some have said in other comments, they’d be better pulling vast swathes of the country out of the last century rather than making empty announcements. It’s pathetic!
No they wouldn’t actually. It would costs nearly 10 grand a piece to connect rural houses with fibre and people aren’t willing to pay that. The costs of upgrading urban customers to new technology are minimal in comparison.
Working overtime in the Spin department there David I see.. I hope eircom are giving you a nice xmas bonus or are the making you work xmas day like they are forcing some of their workers in the support section..
Excellent news. The Australians attempting this have brought fibre to the node after their government decided this would save money and time but ultimately would reduce the speed with the last section being copper. Completely defeating the purpose. Just home something doesn’t alter this grest project
Two thoughts….
For what’s being offered, the general level of speed, service and usage limit with Eircom is grossly overpriced.
Many locations continue to wait for the last “round” of broadband/fibre/super-duper whatever to be installed/activated. This latest initiative will have some places – and generally it’ll be those places where employment and opportunity are limited – two steps behind.
Is it beyond the comprehension or ability of the Eircom brain cell to aspire to the highest level of service for the entire country, install it, connect everyone and then press on with upgrading ALL the network, not just those same old locales?
Sean let’s compare like with like. In South Korea you have an urbanised population living in apartment blocks. Ireland could not be more different. Simple economies of scale.
What about places on the fringes of these towns? We can only get 2mb where we live.
No doubt they’ll bring the fibre cables to the top of the road and call it a day!
Same crap from eircom as usual. There is a gigabit line into the village where my parents live for the last 2 years but it is restricted to 40MB for the whole village. 200 houses all linked to a gigabyte line that has a max speed of 40mb and eircom will claim that as a high speed “connected ” village.
Brian, in fairness to Eircom as a company they have been ripped off by their owners and haven’t been able to invest. Serious investment is now being made in their networks. They are literally rebuilding their networks. I expect significant improvements. No company makes this kind of investment unless they see Euros at the end of it.
Brian that is ferociously frustrating. Hopefully they will use it once they get their new backbone up and running. I cannot see the logic of making an investment and then refusing to realise it! Best of luck!
At the same time, only a few miles from the county town of the third biggest county in Ireland, Eircom cannot provide a reliable connection even at a meagre 1.5-2.0mb/s on their crappy infrastructure.
More hype and bollocks as far as I’m concerned.
We cannot even have a land line as there is an ongoing argument between Eircom and the council as to who should dig a 50m long trench to put the telephone line underground. 6 months ago Eircom dug a trench from the exchange box to the front wall and left it there.
Have contacted, Eircom, the council and the local politicians for votes with no luck in getting a result.
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