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Oliver Connolly: I’ve been subjected to a concentrated attack by certain TDs

Connolly was relieved of his duties as Garda Confidential Recipient by Justice Minister Alan Shatter in February and his made his first public comment on the matter today.

Updated 11pm

FORMER GARDA CONFIDENTIAL recipient Oliver Connolly, who was relieved of his duties in February, said earlier today that he has been “subjected to a concentrated attack by certain members of Dáil Éireann”.

In a four-page statement, he said that his silence thus far “runs counter to every fibre of my being”.

He also said that he finds “the posturing by some senior opposition political figures to be particularly disturbing”.

In his immediate response to the statement this afternoon, Taoiseach Enda Kenny said he noted the comments Connolly makes with regard to Justice Minister Alan Shatter’s work rate and authority and said he hoped he will cooperate with the Guerin inquiry.

Connolly’s statement in full:

In Respect of Recent Events Concerning the Office of An Garda Síochána Confidential Recipient

1. Political Advantage?

During the past number of weeks, I have been subject to a concentrated attack by certain members of Dáil Éireann. These individuals, in a naked political attempt to embarrass a Minister for Justice whom they oppose, have selectively extracted lines from an unverified transcript of a confidential conversation between a serving member of An Garda Síochána and myself, acting in my former role of Confidential Recipient.

Last week the attack shifted from selectively extracting lines of an alleged transcript to carelessly flouting hearsay regarding another confidential conversation between a female member of An Garda Síochána and myself as former Confidential Recipient. Again, all in an effort to discredit the Minister and to imply a conspiracy to frustrate efforts to report alleged acts of wrongdoing and/or misconduct in An Garda Síochána.

I find the posturing by some senior opposition political figures to be particularly disturbing. They, of all people, would be aware of the implications of Kennedy –v– Ireland, where under a previous Fianna Fáil administration, a journalist was found to have been illegally taped and her constitutional rights infringed. That case, for the first time in Irish law, enshrined the individual’s right of privacy within the un-enumerated rights of our constitution.

Even if they have no regard for Irish statutory protections afforded to the confidentiality of discussions by confidential reporters or informants with the Confidential Recipient, they might at least respect my personal expectation of a constitutional right of privacy attaching to any such discussions. I find myself allegedly taped by a serving member of An Garda Síochána without my consent and these opposition politicians, in a very misguided attempt to secure some perceived political advantage, are only too happy to provide the greatest exposure to an unlawful recording and, by their so doing, trample over my rights and, by extension, those of my family.

The publication of selective excerpts from alleged transcripts of statutorily confidential meetings, twisting excerpts for political gain, and hurling accusations without context are not characteristic of a functioning parliamentary democracy that respects the rule of law. How can our politicians expect to retain the respect of the people if, using the cloak of parliamentary privilege, they openly and intentionally violate or infringe the constitutional rights of individuals for political advantage?

2. The Irish Print and Broadcast Media

Some in the Irish media, in their quest for salacious and attention grabbing headlines,
have failed to provide ‘fair and balanced’ and ‘objective’ reporting on the matter and I have witnessed in many articles an incomplete and questionable account of the matters, indicative of the hunger of some in journalism for headlines not truth. Others within the Irish media have, indeed, provided such balance and objectivity and, to you, my family and I are deeply grateful; we thank you sincerely.

3. The Law Prevents my Commentary on Any Confidential Report or Discussions

For those who truly know me, you will be aware that my silence thus far runs counter to every fibre of my being. I would like nothing more than to present the objective facts surrounding these recent events. My honour, my good name, my professional competence and integrity, my privacy as an ordinary citizen have been impugned. Who among us would not wish to respond fully?

People have speculated about silence. It is a common belief that I have a choice and that I have chosen not to respond. That is not the case. Despite everything that has occurred, I have a duty not to disclose, acknowledge, or otherwise comment about any confidential reporter, confidential report, or any meeting arising out of a confidential report or, indeed, any meeting with a confidential informant where that informant may decide not to submit a report. The statutory instrument under which I was appointed precludes me. My activities while holding that office are subject to the An Garda Síochána (Confidential Reporting of Corruption or Malpractice) Regulations 2007 (SI 168 of 2007) made pursuant to the An Garda Síochána Act 2005. The Confidential Recipient is also subject, inter alia, to the provisions of the Official Secrets Act, 1963, as amended. It was and shall remain my understanding that all discussions held with a confidential reporter (or with a confidential informant) and myself, in my former role as confidential recipient, were held in confidence.

But, in a larger sense, the trust placed in me demands that I respect that confidentiality—though others have not and currently do not. What was said or not said during a confidential meeting must, from my perspective, remain confidential. I remain steadfast in respecting the obligations of the office I held. These obligations, I should note, survive my tenure in office.

However, without infringing the law or my conscience, I believe that I can say that I am satisfied that I discharged my former statutory duties both to ‘the principal whistleblower’ and also to the female member of An Garda Síochána who is the subject of last week’s speculation. I believe that they each reported to me in good faith and, crucially, it was also my belief that they had reported to me in confidence and that our discussions were subject to the strictest confidentiality. In respect of each of those Garda, I submitted their confidential reports pursuant to the An Garda Síochána (Confidential Reporting of Corruption or Malpractice) Regulations to the correct person required for receipt of that particular confidential report. I am satisfied that I did as much as my former office enabled me to do to pursue properly their concerns.

3. The End Does Not Justify ‘Any’ Means to Accomplish It

I believe that I reached an understanding of many of the concerns of the principal whistleblower and I also believe that I possess some understanding of the principal whistleblower’s frustrations. However, for the principal whistleblower to come to what was a statutorily confidential meeting for both parties and proceed to allegedly record our meeting without my notice and then actively seek to publish, in and/or outside Dáil Éireann, an alleged transcription of that recording of our discussion I consider as a very serious breach of confidence.

There is also a personal sense of betrayal in that the principal whistleblower felt it necessary to vindicate his rights by infringing my rights and, by extension, the privacy of my family. The ends do not always justify any means. One must not become so focused on a goal that it is pursued at all costs. We might accomplish our goal, but in doing so cause unnecessary and regrettable damage to the constitutional rights of others and to the rule of law itself; ironically, the very thing the principal whistleblower seeks to uphold.

4. Being Relieved of My Office

I have been asked to comment on the Minister for Justice’s decision to relieve me of my duties in office. The Minister and An Taoiseach have acted as they have in relieving me of my position. So be it. As I explained repeatedly to the Secretary-General of the Department of Justice when invited to repudiate the alleged transcript, I should not have been required to validate and I shall not validate, either by way of confirmation or repudiation, the contents of an alleged transcript unlawfully procured. Also, for the same reasons as I have outlined above, I am precluded from commenting on the contents of the alleged transcript because to so comment would require me to violate the confidentiality of the reporting process and of the office itself.

I have a particular understanding of the reforming zeal of which the Minister is possessed, indeed, much of it I share, and I also acutely understand the particular challenges he faces. The Minister is often misunderstood and strange as it may seem to some, despite recent events, I remain an enthusiastic supporter of the Minister in his programme of reform. However, I would remind the Minister and, indeed, An Taoiseach, as I am bound to do, I shall continue to preserve the confidentiality of the outgoing Office of Confidential Recipient even if, as it now appears, I am the only one to do so.

5. Seeking Justice and Truth

The recent events have brought to the forefront of Irish public discourse the potential need to reform the structure and good functioning of An Garda Síochána within the wider frame of good governance in this State. That assuredly is a good thing, which I welcome. Indeed, the only solace I find in the recent distress inflicted on myself and my family is the fact that we, as a people, have begun a frank and open discussion about improving the administration of justice in the State. Further, any hurt and damage that my family or I may have felt by recent events is of little consequence if this episode can actually contribute to a greater transparency and accountability in Irish policing, so enhancing the confidence of the Irish public in An Garda Síochána. Perhaps too it may contribute to a greater clarity
for the victims of crime and their families where it is found that there has been related Garda wrongdoing and/or misconduct in the policing of such crime.

I wish this particular Minister every success in the continuing ‘Reformation’ of the model and administration of Irish justice, and now that the ‘Troika’ has left our shores this might be the time to include Irish policing as a new priority within that Reformation.

Thank you.

Oliver J Connolly

Minister Alan Shatter

On the Justice Minister Shatter’s decision to relieve him of his duties, Connolly said that the Minister and Taoiseach Enda Kenny “have acted as they have in relieving me of my position. So be it”.

Of the “concentrated attack”, he alleged that these individuals:

have selectively extracted lines from an unverified transcript of a confidential conversation between a serving member of An Garda Síochána and myself, acting in my former role of Confidential Recipient.

Connolly has been at the centre of a controversy over comments he is alleged to have made to Garda whistleblower Maurice McCabe.

Parts of this conversation were read into the Dáil record in February by independent TD Mick Wallace and Fianna Fáil deputies including leader Micheál Martin.

Connolly is alleged to have told McCabe: “I’ll tell you something, Maurice, and this is just personal advice to you, if Shatter thinks you’re screwing him, you’re finished.”

Asked about the statement today, Kenny said: “I note his comments in regard to the workrate and the authority of the Minister for Justice. I also note his particular comment in respect of retaining the confidentuiality of his office.

“I would assume that should mean that if senior counsel Guerin, who is now commissioned by government to carry out a wholly independent analysis of all of this, that [if] he is looking for information that he doesn’t have at his disposal, that the former confidential recipient Oliver Connolly would be able to cooperate with him and I expect he’ll be able to do that respecting the confidentiality of his office.”

- additional reporting Hugh O’Connell

First published 12.48pm

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:47 AM

    Why didn’t they allow their members to vote if they didn’t have an official party policy, they criticise the party whip system but use it when it suits them

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:01 PM

    Don’t care what their policy is. Won’t vote for SF. Wouldn’t vote for them if they were the only party.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:45 PM

    Whip system abolition only works when the full house votes with conciounce not just Sinn Fein, they also have to respect their members equal vote.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 2:10 PM

    I remember Claire Daly on TV defending the right to life of the minx cat in relation to fur farming .

    and I agree with her on that ,

    but it twists my brain how she will defend the right to life of the minx cat while at the same time call for the right to life of the unborn to be abolished .

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    Mute Kevin Higgins
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    Mar 4th 2015, 3:02 PM

    Do you understand what a Fatal Foetal Abnormality is?

    If so do you respect the democratic wishes of 81% of the population?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:01 PM

    Kevin, the Democratic wishes of 81% of the population?

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    Mute Rochelle
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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:00 PM

    The minx cat is an independently alive creature while a fetus isn’t? Not really something to be twisting your brain about.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:09 PM

    Yes it is true that women should have sovereignty to their wombs , but what about the embryo having a father ?
    Would it not be fair to explore the area of freezing embryos or offering the father a chance to get a surrogate –
    Life is life after all !
    And yes I know that many fathers may not care but for those that do and for those who believe that life begins at conception etc. etc.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 12:32 PM

    Can you peeps look up “Fatal” in the dictionary please.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:40 AM

    Question surely is – do SF actually have a policy on anything ? Do any political parties actally have a POLICY on anthing or do they merely have temporary opinions that they feel might just get them elected?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:00 AM

    It wont be long before Panti is heading up Sinn Fein .

    My advice to Sinn Fein is to split in two .

    the communists on one side , and the nationalists on the other .

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:06 AM

    I see the FG/LAB trolls are up bright and early this morning,

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:22 AM

    Peter , why do you think that . I dont support any political party .

    FG , Lab , SF , FF all the same to me , all media conformist parties .

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:23 AM

    Peter grimes: Because someone is opposed to Sinn Fein doesn’t mean they are FG/Labour supporters nor does it make them trolls. Feel free to debate the topics rather than resorting to insult at the first opportunity.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:36 AM

    The lack of the usual shinnerbots commenting on this sf article suggests they are unable to carry a personal opinion on the subject of abortion. Far better to wait for guidance and moral clarity from the great bearded saviour of the universe. ‘St gerry of the blessed murph’ they cry. ‘Bring us the light of your populism to guide us through the dark night of our moral ambivalence’

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:37 AM

    With you lot, you can’t be serious you wouldn’t know your ar*e from your elbow. I haven’t seen much debate here yet, all I can see is smart ar*e comments. As a matter of fact I haven’t seen a decent comment on here that could lead to a debate. Kenny is delusional,to the point of madness. The srart of Hitler’s downfall came when he created the russian front, most of his troops froze to death, he hadn’t the foresight to take the harsh russian winter into consideration, and equip his troops accordingly. Kenny is taking the same path, I think his party would have survived the austerity war, reasonably intact, until he decided to create a second front on austerity, the water charge, he wasn’t prepared for the rise of the Irish people. A quote from Isoroku Yamamoto after the attack on Pearl Harbour sums it up. “I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve,

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:41 AM

    Sorry, what?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:04 PM

    Maybe it’s because we’re in work Charles, that we don’t have time to comment ad nauseum. You on the other hand and all the other endabots are no doubt civil servants and have plenty of time to comment in between scratching your arses.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:09 PM

    Here sniper on patrol, I look forward to you outlining your position when gerry has squared away your beliefs for you. Puppets and sheep.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:18 PM

    Sinn Fein do have policies, they’ll tell you right after you tell them what you’re really, really, really like to happen.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 1:48 PM

    actually , I should have said split in three .

    within Sinn Fein , there seems to be 3 different groups .

    communists , nationalists and judging from their EU Manifesto Europhiles ,

    dont you just hate the way europhiles try to get their feet into every political party so people in ireland will have no alternative than to kneel before the kaiser

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:25 PM

    Charles Rex: Sniper needs to check out his statement with P O Neill first

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:10 PM

    But, Brian, are you saying that PIR is P O’ Neill? Well, I’m astonished, particularly considering he’s one the many Shinnerbots who accuses the rest of us as having fake accounts/names – what a surprise!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:11 PM

    Excellent assessment Dave – you left out the loyalist element as well – if the I.R.A. were infiltrated by the british you can be damn sure Sinn Fein are as well !

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    Mar 5th 2015, 8:04 AM

    Peter, FGLAB FF and all others are as entitled to troll their opinions and to express them as you are to troll yours.
    Your snide trolling against them is boring

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:36 AM

    We may support it if it populist.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:45 AM

    Yeah they will be ruined if they ever get into power and have to make actual decisions. I have never seen such raw blatant populism. ‘We registered to pay water charges but now we see so many marching we won’t pay either’.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:58 AM

    Aye sinn fein norn Iron gibba jabba. Still better than Enda ( never worked a day in his life ) Kenny

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:01 AM

    Charles I could not have said it better myself.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:06 AM

    By Populist, do you mean bowing to the will of the people? Then we need more populist politicians.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:08 AM

    @Francis Devenney

    We the people demand Christmas every day!

    We SF promise to deliver Christmas every day!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:10 AM

    That’s because you are Charles

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:11 AM

    Yawn.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:11 AM

    Populist as in everything to GET elected and then realising whoops in a spot of bother here.

    That’s why labour are finished they took a stance they could not keep up and we’ll paying price. To be fair to fg they did not go into office to kick out ECB or lower taxes they were elected to short the mess out.

    It’s largely sorted to be fair.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:24 AM

    We had rakes of populist politicians (all parties) during Celtic Tiger era: buying property with easy credit was very popular. See where it got us.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:35 AM

    Populist parents allow their children watch tv all day and eat sweets for fear of being unpopular.

    Doesn’t bode well for SF making tough decisions on anything that might lose a voter.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:36 AM

    Huge crowd of FG/Lab Trolls on in response to a Hugh O’Connell “Special” Article this morning !!!

    By golly – Huge panic has set in since the last weekend disastrous Labour Party Conference tiny turnout ?

    Deckchairs spinning around the deck of The Titanic at this point !

    Well done Hugh – At least you are gathering these people in the one spot moaning , groaning and spilling their anguish .

    Can’t wait for The Upcoming General Election – Good times ahead .

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:38 AM

    Im looking forward to continued prosperity under FG for the foreseeable future. i wish them well in their second term

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:44 AM

    Fine Gael are toast Pat – the names of the H.S.B.C. 350 and the Ansbacher politicians are going to come into the public domain and when they do then Fine Gael are in big doo-doo !

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:01 PM

    oh that tumbleweed story – I’m sure everyone is terrified haha

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    Mar 4th 2015, 1:03 PM

    ….The answer my friend is blowing in the wind….

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    Mar 4th 2015, 6:07 PM

    First of all I’m not a SF member but have voted for them (and other parties) in the past. This constant charge of populism is pure silliness and detracts from any meaningful debate. Populism means that the support the masses against the interests of the elites. what is so bad about that? Is that really something to be ashamed of? All opposition parties could be called populist at any time because they strive to appeal to the middle ground voter and the fringes of the parties in governments. People would do well to address actual issues instead of these constant and childish accusations of populism.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 6:53 PM

    Dieu7 : you’re definition of populism is wrong. It means having absolutely no views or opinions of you’re own and doing whatever is most popular in each instance. Even when the popular action directly contradicts previous actions.
    If you stand for nothing you will allow anything.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:05 PM

    Populism is whatever spin the media put on a story to annoy the sheep that lap it up. Everything is a crisis or biggest scandal ever…until tomorrow’s headline.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:13 PM

    Keep Laughing Pat – that’s how they find you – Fingers only thinks he has gotten away with it !
    FG – the law and order party my rear !

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:47 AM

    The question really is what is Sinn Fein’s policy on anything apart from the North… they’re great at jumping on bandwagons, but never hear a whole load of sense from them in so far as wider policy is concerned.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:08 PM

    Here’s a mad idea John … Watch the Ard Fheis this weekend and find out .. Just a thought !

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:44 AM

    whatever is the populist stance thats the SF stance

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:44 AM

    They seem to have Fine Gael and Fianna Fail Labour disease on that front !

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:35 PM

    So Hermes you think introducing property tax and water charges was populist?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:14 PM

    Yes in Germany for their coffers – of course it was – the bundestag and the Troika have been writing the economic script in Ireland for some time now …That is why Ireland will be the first to leave the E.U. we are the empire breakers when they try to break us !
    Enda is only the window dressing and for that he will have a terrible price to pay !

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    Mar 5th 2015, 9:00 AM

    Hermes when you’re in a hole stop digging

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:40 AM

    Sinn Fein don’t have an obvious policy on abortion other than to: ‘hear no evil, see no evil and to speak no evil’.

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    Mute johngahan
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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:27 AM

    They need to run the numbers and figure out what position would be most popular with voters.

    Give them time; rest assured it will be a popular position when they calculate what it should be.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:00 PM

    Don’t all parties do that?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:32 PM

    No, some have positions on moral or economic policy issues as a fundamental value – rather than sourced from marketing focus group.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:08 AM

    The ‘Republican Movement’ was always essentially a one-issue (‘Brits Out’) organization comprising strange ideological bedfellows. At some point it decided arbitrarily that it was actually ‘left-wing’ (read ‘fuzzily populist’), but it has always looked foolish when attempting to venture beyond its simplistic take on ‘the national question’.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:39 AM

    Hugh, how much are FG paying you per week ?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:42 AM

    A lot of money invested privately in this Government – the rich need Enda more than Ireland does and Enda goes and impoverishes irish Families with Bundestag Budgets…….. !
    He reminds me of the Vichy Government in France under Germany in the 40s …. and all the loot pouring into Switzerland – Free the H.S.B.C 350 !
    Enda has known about the HSBC 350 since 2010 and so has the Irish media – that’s all you need to know actually .

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:43 AM

    That’s a stupid comment, Felicia.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:54 AM

    Explain why it is stupid. All Hugh spouts is anti Sinn Fein lies time after time. An impartial journalist should not be bias. So Hugh is either a dishonest, poor or compromised journalist. Take your pick Dermot

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:59 AM

    The article is fair, balanced and in no way is anti Sinn Fein. If anyone has an agenda here it’s you. I’d say you haven’t even read the article.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:03 AM

    Ha! That’s Sinn Feins answer to everything; “how much are you paid?”.

    Ironic seeing as their economics are so clueless!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:05 AM

    I suggest you read it again Dermot. All the sly digs in there. This is an article penned by an author with alternative motives

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:10 AM

    Don Juan, it was me that posed the question and I am not a member of Sinn Fein so I don’t see the revelance of your comment. Was it meant for another thread or something ???

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:14 AM

    Good answer Felicia!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:19 AM

    I’ve read it again and I can see anything that’s not an accurate statement of the party’s position. If the writer has a hidden agenda it’s not obvious to me from this piece. Can you quote me an example?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:22 AM

    @ Felicia – you’re right in what you say about the author and just ignore the blueshirt trolls on here – a lot of them are feeling sensitive about losing their place and getting their asses handed to them in the next election.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:23 AM

    Dermot, you should know by now that anything that makes Sinn Fein supporters feel a little bit uncomfortable is blatent propaganda written by FG and Labour trolls. Criticism of Dear Leader is not allowed!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:46 AM

    I’m still waiting for someone to point out the bias/anti SF agenda in this article, and yet by simply asking for this I’m a government troll?
    Not everyone who criticises or questions SF is a govt supporter. As a political party aiming to lead the country, and with big support in the opinion polls, SF supporters need to realise that they and their policies will be subject to close scrutiny from now on. Get used to it.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:58 AM

    Arguing with a Shinner is like arguing with a turnip. What you see is what you get – a turnip. Would you admit to having a conversation or debating with a turnip?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:01 PM

    Says the soggy tea bag!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:12 PM

    Mr Lyons – Discussing or debating with you is like talking to Goebbels about reforming and speaking other then a continuous load of FG porky pies!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:37 AM

    Their position is anything that will get votes, much like the other parties. All will debate and again leave it till after the GE

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:18 AM

    Adams mind must be melted thinking about what he should advise as leader of Sinn Fein on this matter! After all he has to think carefully if he should support the “pro life” side considering the IRAs history of murder and violence.
    He is also well acquainted with lies, rape, child abuse and incest in his immediate circle.
    Would he not find it very hypocritical to vote against allowing women to have a termination when she has been told that her baby has no chance of life outside the womb!!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:44 AM

    Two horses and a foot on each saddle…

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:29 AM

    They had no problem with the aborting of thousands of lives as a result of a fanatical hatred of the ‘others’.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:06 PM

    Defending your community against illegal occupation is no crime. #heroesIRA

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:12 PM

    if it was illegal you should go to the police :D

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:41 AM

    Their stance will be whatever is the popular with the people.

    Remember Adams said he was paying his water bill on his second home in Donegal, then suddenly when public opinion changed, he changed as well and suddenly wasn’t paying it

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:22 AM

    It depends on what public opinion is on the issue – like every other SF policy.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:01 AM

    A divisive issue? No way Sinn Fein are weighing in on that!

    A real example of Sinn Fein leadership, clarity and conciseness of policy and ability to make tough decisions for the good of the country.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:55 AM

    child protection is literally a very touchy subject for SF

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:08 PM

    Who said that? Was it (a) Kenneth, (b) realgael, (c) Gillhouley or (d) all of the above?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:18 PM

    They have to see which way the bandwagon is parked first.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:49 AM

    Shinners ask yourselves this -
    Who will lead you when Gerry Adams has passed away ?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:00 AM

    Or jailed…

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:03 AM

    Adams will hopefully be around for another while- but who ever is voted as Sinn Fein leader at the Ard Fheis will lead us- simples-

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:30 AM

    There will be no talk of replacing Dear Leader, he is leader for life!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:46 AM

    I might have to apply for the position – it being an open and democratic organisation with no links to MI5 – Denis Donaldson and all that !

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    Mar 4th 2015, 3:08 PM

    SF are total cowards and hypocrites on this issue. They don’t have a policy on it (even though abortion is not new) because they don’t want to lose all those soft FF voters who are currently supporting them, or they don’t want to make themselves less attractive to transfers from similar voters.

    Even if they have a policy on fatal foetal abnormalities after their Árd fhéis, this would just raise the question of what their stance is on abortion in cases of rape, when the mother’s health as distinct from her life is at risk etc. etc. etc. They need a clear policy once and for all.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:39 AM

    They are waiting for Paul Murphy to point the way is my guess – Murphy is more republican with his stand on Irish Water then many within Sinn Fein and that is a fact !
    I like Sinn Fein though – I know their grassroots and they are not men to be fooled for too long and not men to be double-crossed either !

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:03 AM

    SF are fooling a lot of the electorate with the populist policies.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:13 AM

    Maybe the electorate have had enough of FG unpopulist policies.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:47 AM

    Like Enda did in the last election Prionsias – that is why Independents must be to the fore – they have the internal mental capacity to think outside the groupthink mentality !

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:13 PM

    Proinsias – How are The Labour Party doing ?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:32 PM

    Eddie you know as much about the Labour Party as me, so ask yourself!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 1:21 PM

    Proinsias – what’s all the bashing and pro Government Parties mentality so ?

    Presumably , being a Foley , your background is Stickie / Workers Party / Democratic Left / Labour and all the other multiplicity of names and splits they had over the years !
    But they have truly destroyed The Labour Party , since they took them over , I’m sure you will agree ?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 1:58 PM

    Eddie, unlike many people I never subscribed to the lunacy of voting for a party just because my father or mother did! Regarding my parents my father is a died in the wool FF man and my mother came from a strong Labour supporting family.

    I make my mind up at election time based on the best mix of these and other wishes of mine:

    I am not swayed by fantasy economics, I want a pro employment party, I detest conservative Christian types, I like a reasonable mix of social and economic liberalism, I want a party that is pro business but looks after the weakest in society. I want a party to tackle lifelong welfare spongers, I want career criminals to be given harsh sentences, I want strict separation of church and state.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 2:54 PM

    Proinsias for Taoiseach!

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:03 PM

    Pronsious – I think your second paragraph has concisely summed up what most of Ireland want, but sadly unlikely to get. A new party who offered such principles, would in my view do very well.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 4:55 PM

    Sf policy on abortion is whatever policy is most likely to win votes.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 8:04 PM

    SF don’t mind people suffering especially children, they caused so much suffering to children they should hide in shame.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:06 PM

    Sinn Féin have a policy?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 5:12 PM

    They’ll support abortion, as long as it involves shooting the mother.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:47 AM

    What exactly is Sinn Fein’s position on abortion?
    Hugh the answer to that question, as you well know, will be defined this weekend at the party ard fheis.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 9:53 PM

    Whats SFs policy on any issue?? All depends on the day of the week and whether you live in the South or the North..

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:28 AM

    What’s the Journal’s policy on abortion? Still pretending not to have one?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:48 AM

    The fourth Estate should be impartial – unle3ss you believe in manipulation of the masses by crooked media of course !
    The planet is blue by the way !

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    Mar 4th 2015, 2:35 PM

    Yes it SHOULD be

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    Mar 4th 2015, 1:40 PM

    Depends which day of the week it is.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:00 PM

    I think I have heard it all.

    So, apparently, it is bad for Sinn Fein to choose a policy because it will give them votes.

    So what is the right course of action for SF. Choose a policy that the people majoritarily doesn’t want?

    How does that make any sense?

    Anyway, such comments come from those who think SF cannot do anything right, no matter what SF does. They happily go all out against ‘Shinner bots’ by behaving exactly like ‘Anti-shinner bots’ would.

    No brain, all bot.

    If I could vote in this country I’d vote SF, as long as they came up with a pro-choice policy. No policy and pro-foetus policy would not get my vote.

    But apparently if SF chooses to take on *ANY* option about abortion, that will only be with the purpose of gaining them votes. It could not be with the purpose of representing the people, no. That’s reserved to FG and FF.

    Give me a break.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 7:04 PM

    Seems that Journal readers are much more comfortable with a Labour-style policy, Al. That is, trade on a pro-choice stance until they actually get into government. Then when they could do something about it, go with their overlords in FG and claim that there is no mandate/ appetite/ bla bla.. I wonder what scares people more at this stage – the likelihood of abortion in certain cases becoming a reality in Ireland or the likelihood of SF being part of the government that will introduce it?

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:45 AM

    Lord of mercy.
    I see the packet of tea bags and dougal reg are up and at it must of got a call from fg HQ.
    Total muppets without a brain reg you do no that dougal was not a real person .

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    Mar 4th 2015, 9:40 PM

    Dissapear them

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    Mar 4th 2015, 12:05 PM

    Sinn Fein :’My new love’ :)

    If you’re taking your time on this important issue,Ger -then please – don’t take as long as the other populist parties on this . #oggieisprochoice

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:39 PM

    So this government shouts about cutting taxes while introducing steeper new taxes and charges and all they can talk about is Sinn Fein and Abortion???

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    Mar 5th 2015, 1:36 AM

    It is amusing to see posts here about it being pointless voting for parties as long as there is a whip. Yet if a policy is left open for the TD’s to decide then they are accused of the crime of being populist. Political parties have done nothing to legislate on this thorny subject precisely because it is so divisive among party members and activists. The best way forward is for all parties to back of the ideology and let a free vote take place. That way we will know how TD’s really think and feel on the matter. More importantly we will get to out the hypocrites who want to hide behind party policy and the whip, claiming to be one thing yet voting the other way.
    Sadly instead of having an open and honest debate, journalist like Hugh here will party politicise the issue and party trolls will milk it for for everything it is worth. No wonder so many people are disillusioned with politics.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:38 PM

    If the government taxed it then it might be another Irish spinner for them… lol.
    An Irish Water personnel at every pregnancy so they can charge 188 for when the water breaks lol.

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    Mar 5th 2015, 5:42 AM

    How screwed up is it that this is even a issue. Hard to believe that a modern day European country still does not allow women to control their own lives.
    Ruled by an archaic religious creed and doctrine.

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    Mar 4th 2015, 5:02 PM

    .

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    Mar 4th 2015, 11:13 PM

    Night, Tap xxx

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    Mar 4th 2015, 10:50 PM

    They should change there stance after all the stalling once and for all and support a women’s right over her body and be pro choice officially. Like all respectable socialists.

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