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Islamic State group militants in Iraq. (File Photo) Associated Press
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"Extremism is no longer an abstract problem. It’s here" - Is Islamic terrorism a threat in Ireland?
The Justice Department has said that it is aware of foreign fighters from Ireland who have died in the Middle East.
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TÁNAISTE FRANCES FITZGERALD has warned that people are becoming radicalised online and that not enough is known about the issue and how to stop it.
Fitzgerald gave a speech yesterday at a VOXPOL conference in DCU about people becoming radicalised on the internet.
VOXPOL is an international European research group dedicated to examining how violent extremist politics play out online.
“It is not acceptable that the preaching of hatred and incitement to violence should go unaddressed in this forum,” the minister said.
There is a strong realisation of the need for governments and the major tech companies and internet service providers to work together on this issue.
Fitzgerald also addressed the issue of ‘foreign terrorist fighters’ and people returning home from conflict zones radicalised and ready to carry out attacks on their home countries.
Frances Fitzgerald. Sam Boal / RollingNews.ie
Sam Boal / RollingNews.ie / RollingNews.ie
“It was perhaps sadly inevitable that some of these individuals would return home, radicalised, trained and motivated to commit violent attacks,” said Fitzgerald.
Extremism is no longer an abstract problem that happens somewhere else. It’s here.
Extremism
The Tánaiste’s comments were echoed by Fine Gael MEP Brian Hayes, who warned that the government must come up with a plan to stop the radicalisation of people in new communities in Ireland.
Speaking to TheJournal.ie, Hayes said Ireland needed to carry out an audit of what other European countries had done right or wrong with regards to protecting against the radicalisation of people in growing Islamic communities.
Hayes said that the monitoring of people who are suspected of being involved in terrorist activity is very important, and that Ireland needed to do more to integrate people who may arrive new to the country.
“I think we can do an awful lot more and we shouldn’t be complacent in any shape or form towards the prevalence of this problem,” he said.
It’s not said by me independently – it’s being said by communities from where some of these people are coming. They’ve asked us to be on our guard.
Hayes said that it was important that a strong relationship was formed by intelligence services with communities where extremists may be operating.
“If people are known within a community to have very radical views, or anti-Irish views, or views which are pro IS, it’s important that the intelligence services are aware of this and that the community themselves are bringing them to attention,” he said.
The Fine Gael MEP’s comments echo those of prominent Irish Muslim cleric Shaykh Dr Muhammad Umar Al-Qadri, who said last year that Muslim children are being taught “hatred of other communities” at unregulated weekend classes in Ireland.
Recent terrorist attacks in Paris and Brussels have brought into sharp focus the social divide in certain European countries between different religious and social communities.
A soldier patrols in front of Notre Dame cathedral, in Paris in December. AP / Press Association Images
AP / Press Association Images / Press Association Images
Hayes said that is important that these divides don’t manifest themselves in Ireland.
“Other countries have been appalling in terms of their responses,” said Hayes.
They have allowed areas to become ghettoised, we haven’t interacted properly with them.
Hayes said that an audit of what other countries had done in terms of handling new and growing communities was important for their integration.
“I would like if some audit could be established of what works and what doesn’t work,” he said.
In terms of foreign fighters travelling from Ireland, a recent EU briefing report on jihadist fighters returning to EU countries from conflict zone to carry out terrorist attacks in their home countries.
“Whereas the phenomenon is not new, its scale certainly is, explaining the wide perception that these individuals are a serious threat to the security of both individual Member States and the EU as a whole.” the document states.
A map contained in the document lists the number of suspected foreign fighters per million citizens in EU countries.
The map shows that Ireland has seven foreign jihadist fighters per one million of its population, putting the total number at 30.
In terms of numbers per population, this puts it ahead of the likes of Spain (three per million), Italy (one per million) and Romania (one per million).
France has the most foreign fighters with 1,700 (or 26 per million), followed by the UK with 760 (or 12 per million).
Ireland is still quite low down on the rate per population of foreign fighters.
In a statement to TheJournal.ie, the Department of Justice said that wasn’t “immune” from a terrorist threat but that an attack was not “considered likely”.
“The Garda authorities keep the level of threat from this source under constant review,” the department said.
There are a small number of people in Ireland whose activities are a cause for concern in terms of supporting terrorism and extremism. The Gardaí continue to monitor these individuals and, where evidence is available of criminality, they will face the full rigours of the law.
The department also said that gardaí were aware of people who travelled to conflict areas in the Middle East and who had died while fighting:
The Garda Authorities are aware that a small number of people have travelled from Ireland to conflict in the Middle East and a number of these individuals have lost their lives.
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And those less well off are less likely to vote. But when mobilised. can turn an election. That’s what we are seeing. And why do the less well off react to issues like immigration in such force? Because low paid workers are the ones who have to compete with immigrants, many of who will work for far less wages, and therefore they drive the supply of jobs and wages for those jobs downwards. Can you blame them for opposing immigration?
Mr that is so true. All politicians use the poor vote to get elected. and then turn their back on them. It’s happened forever and will continue for ever.
@Patrick Gough: Total and simple manipulation, Brexit and Trump used it to good effect, and Clinton lost as she didn’t address them in the first place.
@Mr Snuffleupagus: And ‘Don the Con’ is the very man to sort that out for those poor devils,that is of course, after he gets another few foreign workers to work in his vineyard for $10 an hour..Oh,and those pesky foreign workers will have to pay for a place to stay,too..Yikes! By the way…did the lads that flew into the twin towers come into the USA through that foreign visa that the Don is using ? Hmmmmm
Funny that no too many Americans seem to be that interested in flipping burgers,picking up laundry, dishwasher or picking strawberries or what industry are you exactly referring too where they have to compete
@Red Marauder: Any industry you choose.Large scale Immigration into Ireland is a very new phenomenon. Prior to that. there were plenty of people here willing to work in McDonalds, do laundry and pick strawberries. You have essentially made my point. It’s now been outsourced to immigrants as they’ll do it for half nothing.
I disagree, there is of course the minimum wage each worker is entitled too, not half, look at the Netherlands for example, which has on of the lowest employment rates of the European, yet nr1 issue is migration and right wing party is doing well in the polls, there are other things at play there, most migration is from EU citizens coming to Ireland, not from middle east or south America
@Mr Snuffleupagus: And look which parties let in the most migrants, doesn’t seem to reflect on them winning elections based on media spin and lies. The UK electorate have continued to be duped by the tories since 2010, when will they wake up and realise this.
I think they are still failing to see the worldwide shift, recessions have come before and people swung left or right. This time it’s more than that because people recognise that their is a general failure to deliver from established parties, the don’t trust any of them to raise standards or work in their interest, hence the protest vote, which could be in any direction so long as it gives the fingers.
Put very simply in Irish terms, if you are comfortably off, have a good life style, good housing and access to education and health for your children, there will be a tendency to have a smug and complacent satisfaction with FF and FG. These parties look after the haves and ensure the protection and advancement of privilege.
If life is difficult and austerity has bitten more severely in its impact on you, your family and your community, then you will be less likely to be so wholehearted in your support of FF and FG.
There are exceptions. For example, austerity, insecurity and harsh times will move some of the victims of austerity and socially discriminatory policies to the hard right, blaming immigration, for example, as the threat to their continuing survival.
@Micheal OLainn: To be honest Michael, if you feel like that why bother voting at all because things will never change to suit the majority of people in this country. Having a paid job is your sense of worth to society and doing something to help your community should be enough to satisfy most people.
For many of us iIt isn’t a fight against the system it is to try and improve our self worth in a selfish society. If you aspire to a certsin lifestyle then for most of us it is to work for it.
Hard to argue with the findings.
The problem of course for Democrats is that they eventually ran out of other people’s money to spend.
Hence their darling Hillary being banished to the political wilderness.
Which I’m quite OK with to be honest.
The vote of a wealthy person carries more influence than the vote of a poor person.
Governments respond to the lobbying and influence of the wealthy, not of the poor.
The wealthy use money, the media and other methods of control and influence over public opinion to put into power the Government they know will be most protective of their wealth and privileged.
Does anyone seriously think that, as a citizen, they have as an individual even a tiny fraction of the influence and direction of Denis O’Brien?
One of the things about living in a democracy is that the vote of a poor person is worth the exact same as the vote of a wealthy person.
There’s no doubt that wealth buys influence and smooths the road towards standing for election, but that’s a different issue.
@Avina Laaf: but you overlook the why of voting and who is voted for. Each bpvotr counts equally but what influences the what and the why of voting for particulate candidates and the vested interests that they represent cannot be ignored.
The second dimension is that par works well when there is real politucal chiice but poorly when the range of views expressed by candidates is limited.
It is important to look under the surface and not to be beguiled by simplistic understandings.
@Micheal OLainn: Well if you buy newspapers owed by Denis O’Brien or Rupert Murdock you get what you pay for…..pure rubbish and propaganda, so stop buying them.
It’s not just income inequality. It’s also that a large portion of the country felt POLITICALLY and/or CULTURALLY unequal… Suffocating and being overpowered by the leftist establishment government, bullsh*t MSM, narcissistic moralising academia and SJWs, and perceived existential threats such as globalised capitalism, Jihadism, multi-culturalism and so on.
People wanted a major shift culturally. Trump was seen as a “change candidate” in more ways than economic.
Paul lad, tell your (bah humbug) boss to go stuff a Christmas pudding in their Gob and then go home to your family. Whatever news there is today can be read tomorrow. Have a Happy Chrimbo !!
@Graham McKibbin: He probably is at home. The vast majority of today’s article so far are not time relevant. They are written a few days ago most likely. This is normal at Xmas in media too. Skelton staff, prewritten articles.
This is a typical tabloid statement from a sheep that follows what the political consensus say to justify their battered egos after having the muck beaten out of than by an electorate that are just fed up of corrupt imbeciles at the helm of the titanic who’s manifest is only to find icebergs instead of finding a destination where everyone wants to go.
All politics is local .. and there’s nothing more local than people’s wallets.
To win voter support taxes must comply with principles of taxation (in a word fairness):-
- No 2-Tier Taxes .. LPT (owners taxed but not state housed), Car Tax (pre 2008 v post 2008), Water (Urban v rural)
- No Regressive Taxes .. LPT, Car Tax, Water, VAT on first time buyers .. fails to allow for inability to pay.
- No Taxes on “Life Essentials” , Food (incl water), air, shelter, clothing, sanitation, health, personal transport, ed …
- Comply with Canons of Taxation .. must allow for inability to pay..
Else we are all moving quickly to political and social unrest .. more Brexits, Trumps, Le Pens …
@Neuville-Kepler62F: Thats an interesting observation, but we should also realise in Ireland that services need to be paid for especialy when workers are relying of their income.
Talking to an elderly friend this week living alone in the UK and paying £1,100 per year council tax. I think that there would be riots in the streets of Ireland if the government here imposed council tax.
@Chris Kirk: Nail on the head why Brexit happened …. UK political class utterly vindictive, even imposed a bedroom tax (spare) on family homes. No pensioner (or family) should be taxed on their Family Home. It is a Life essential (shelter).
Progressive, appropriate, moderate and fair taxes are acceptable to fund public services.
Taxes which fail the 4 Frameworks of Good Taxation Policy should be abolished. Broadening the tax base is not acceptable when they fail basic canons of taxation rules .. such as “ability to pay”!
Italy abolished its hated LPT on family homes in Dec 2015.
Sweden abolished its hated inheritance tax . TD knocks on the door on the death of a relative demanding tax.
France abolished its annual Motor tax in 2001. Personal transport (car) is a basic need in modern world.
Economic inequality is not noticed by the elite because 99% of the increases in income go to them. And then they are shocked when we dont vote as they command.
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