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Pat Kenny: 'My voice couldn't even be heard in case an Irish person was nearby'

The veteran broadcaster has spoken of the challenges he faced while reporting on abortion in the United Kingdom.

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PAT KENNY WAS so conscious of the possibility of meeting an Irish person while reporting at an abortion clinic in the United Kingdom he had to slip in and out unnoticed.

In an interview with TheJournal.ie, the veteran broadcaster spoke of the challenges involved in putting together a series on the topic of terminations for his Newstalk programme, The Pat Kenny Show.

Kenny and his team travelled to an abortion facility in Manchester to speak with staff who work there.

“We were aware of the possibility that we might meet an Irish person on the day,” he said, “So I had to make sure I arrived and I didn’t meet anyone except the staff, that there would be no possibility of even my voice being heard in the clinic.”

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The last thing you want to do is impinge on someone’s decision on way or the other, for good or for ill. The fact that Pat Kenny is in building could do something to change someone’s mind in either direction.

Despite his more than 40-year career in current affairs, and having covered the issue last time it dominated headlines during the X case, Kenny says the outcome of any referendum on abortion is “impossible” to predict.

“It will depend on what is put on the table,” he said.

“The hard cases that people have talked about, in particular fatal foetal abnormalities, I think that will be persuasive for a lot of people.”

Anything broader than foetal abnormalities may be complicated.

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Kenny said there will be arguments and counterarguments for anything more broad than that. For example, the argument against including cases of rape is that in Dublin a procedure to remove tissue in the uterus, known as a D&C, is already performed, or the morning after pill is administered.

He added that while the same-sex marriage referendum was a good news story “about people being happy together”, the abortion debate isn’t a positive one.

In this case it’s all about bad news, whether it’s a woman who is faced with the reality of carrying a baby with a fatal foetal abnormality or someone who is in a crisis pregnancy, be it rape or be it another reason, one way or the other that is kind of bad news.

We’ll have more from the interview with Pat Kenny in the coming days.

Read: Belfast court rules abortion should be available in cases of rape and fatal foetal abnormality >

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 6:49 AM

    Mattress amnesty- they’re taking the Mick.

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    Mute Michael Kavanagh
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    Jul 23rd 2018, 8:42 AM

    @John Jones:
    He’ll be OK. His compadres will spring him.

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 8:29 AM

    Would make more sense if it was a collection service for those who have no way of transporting bulky items like mattresses .

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    Mute Dean Anderson
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    Jul 23rd 2018, 8:14 AM

    only clean mattresses. ..the problem is it’s old &dirty mattresses people want to get rid of

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    Mute Ivan Connolly
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    Jul 23rd 2018, 7:03 AM

    This kind of innovative thinking makes me proud to be Irish. I couldn’t even imagine a better way to blow €200,000. Unless of course we spent it providing everyone with a little of the same drugs Naughton is taking. The whole thing might make a bit more sense then to everyone else who might have thought it was a brain fart of an idea that should never have made it past the underpants naughton should be wearing on his head.

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    Mute Gavin R
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    Jul 23rd 2018, 6:20 AM

    Mattress amnesty I’m really confused.

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    Mute Michael Kavanagh
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    Jul 23rd 2018, 6:50 AM

    Mick is turning himself in – for crimes against advertising.

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 6:30 AM

    Any locations in Cork?

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 9:18 AM

    I forked out €90 for 3 single mattresses at my local amenity centre, no wonder there being illegally dumped on a regular basis

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    Mute Eoin Scanlon
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    Jul 23rd 2018, 9:21 AM

    @Noel Martin: you think they’re cheap for the council to get rid of? They’d half fill a skip. Not an excuse to illegally dump.

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    Mute Gus Sheridan
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    Jul 23rd 2018, 9:38 AM

    @Noel Martin: the more people are charged the more they will dump, when will this get through to the thick FG mind?

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    Mute Gavin R
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    Jul 23rd 2018, 9:43 AM

    @Noel Martin: I can see a mattress levy been introduced on all new mattresses, there putting it on everything else.

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 8:04 AM

    Oh give it a rest and put this issue to bed

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 11:50 PM

    @Shoot Thepiano: very true. Important to sleep on it when making decisions like this

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 9:45 AM

    I’m sure the people who manage to find a way to transport mattresses to dump them in remote rural locations can find a way to transport them to an amenity centre.

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 4:24 PM

    In Australia they have a kerb collection once a year where you can put out what you normally can’t get rid off and the council picks it up works quiet well

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 12:52 PM

    Mattresses being dumped illegally are done so for a reason. Accepting only clean dry mattresses won’t solve dumping. All mattresses no matter what condition should be accepted.

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 8:57 AM

    Reactionary decision, should’ve slept on it.

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 11:21 AM

    They are probably collecting the mattress for their homeless hubs!

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 9:41 AM

    I don’t get it. One can break down a mattress in about 15 minutes with a stanley blade and cutters. Once the springs are cut apart, the mattress doesn’t take up much space.

    Standard mattress of course, one of those memory foam ones would be a very different story.

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 11:27 AM

    Where, apart from Tuam, are the Galway collections? I could do N.Tipp too…

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 11:30 AM

    @Jane Alford: bummer. It was on Saturday. Journal on the spot as usual…

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 3:30 PM

    Why do it during the Summer? They should wait until Spring comes.

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 12:43 PM

    What sort of people dump mattresses? A joke. What about a dog crap amnesty while they are at it.

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    Mar 6th 2023, 1:40 PM

    the going rate is 50 euro to remove a mattress , this is the reason they are dumped and cause litter problems across the country they should have a markup to recycle , http://www.mattressmonkey.ie

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    Jul 23rd 2018, 3:50 PM

    I hear they would make good flower beds lol

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