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Pope says the world is at war - but religion is not the cause

Pope Francis said all religions want peace, “it’s the others who want war”.

POPE FRANCIS HAS said the world was at war, but argued that religion was not the cause, as he arrived in Poland a day after jihadists murdered a Catholic priest in France.

In his first speech after touching down in the city of Krakow, the pontiff said the way to “overcome fear” was to welcome people fleeing conflict and hardship.

Opening doors to migrants demands “great wisdom and compassion” he said, chastising a rightwing government that has refused to share the burden during Europe’s worst refugee crisis since World War II.

“We must not be afraid to say the truth, the world is at war because it has lost peace,” the pontiff told journalists on the flight out from Rome.

When I speak of war I speak of wars over interests, money, resources, not religion. All religions want peace, it’s the others who want war.

The brutal killing of the elderly priest during mass in France on Tuesday, in an attack claimed by the Islamic State group, has cast a shadow over Francis’s trip to headline World Youth Day, a gathering of young Catholics from across the globe.

“This holy priest who died in the moment of offering prayers for the church is one (victim). But how many Christians, innocents, children?” Francis said.

Polish stance softening? 

“The word we hear a lot is insecurity, but the real word is war. The world has been in a fragmented war for some time. There was the one in 14, one in 39-45 and now this,” he said referring to World War I and II.

A string of terror attacks targeting civilians in Europe appears to have dampened turnout for the World Youth Day festival, a week-long faith extravaganza dubbed “the Catholic Woodstock”.

Flag-waving crowds of youngsters nonetheless turned out in force to cheer on the pope as he sped to the Wawel Royal Castle in his open-top popemobile, defying security fears.

Around 200,000 pilgrims attended the opening mass on Tuesday, according to Krakow police, while organisers had expected around half a million.

Refugees

The French priest’s murder has also complicated Francis’s aim to champion migrants, while emboldening Polish Prime Minister Beata Szydlo and her right-wing government who have refused to take in refugees for security reasons.

But Polish President Andrzej Duda appeared to signal a softening of Warsaw’s stance following closed-door talks with Francis.

“If someone wants to come here, especially if they are a refugee, fleeing war to save their life, we will of course accept them,” he told reporters.

Poland is on high security alert, deploying over 40,000 personnel for the visit. Authorities also charged an Iraqi man on Monday with possessing trace amounts of explosive material.

“World Youth Day is a great celebration and we hope the attack in France will not ruin it,” said Marcin Przeciszewski, head of Catholic Information Agency KAI, as worshippers gathered Tuesday to pray for the fallen French priest.

“The best answer to violence is love, peace and prayer,” said French pilgrim Pierre Darme.

- © AFP 2016.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 10:08 AM

    I don’t understand why we’re restricting access to these drugs for medical research. We’re fine with allowing researchers to work with highly addictive opiates as we know of the medicinal benefits of them. Why not open the doors to researchers so long as they have a legitimate reason for their research?

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 10:39 AM

    @Jason Culligan: Because LSD does a lot to your perception of reality. Governments loose control of their carefully built narrative if the population is using LSD. I can’t see any other reason why.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 11:32 AM

    Jason, I’m all for letting people access natural medicine but LSD is different. The mental health institutions in the UK are still full of the casualties from the 60s and 70s LSD epidemic. Many of them were one-off users. Mushrooms are slightly different in as much the amount consumed can easily be regulated by the user. With acid in those days it was take the tab and see what happens and many people were damaged for life. It was a kind of Russian Roulette. I think we all know why governments are happy to let Pharma keep churning out the opioids.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 1:31 PM

    @Patrick J. O’Rourke: No they’re not. Talk about fear mongering.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 1:39 PM

    @Mal: Well said. The mind is opened by LSD and this helps people think for themselves. The US government would sh*t themselves at the thought of larger numbers of their population thinking for themselves. Effectively what they are doing by banning LSD & other psychedelics, is taking away everyone’s sovereign right to explore their own consciousness.
    If everyone in the world drank the potent psychedelic Amazonian medicine, Ayahuasca, we would live in a more peaceful and compassionate world.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 2:44 PM

    @Paddy Ryan: Excuse me, as I went through the 60s/70s I can tell you that three of my classmates/friends from school in England are still in institutions from LSD damage. In my time at one grammar school the head count was over 20 for the whole school being treated with severe problems from LSD. At one point Graylingwell Hospital in Chichester was on overload from LSD casualties. LSD was available everywhere then. I was lucky not to end up the same. It either opened your mind or blew it. It’s a subject I know well so don’t talk about fear-mongering.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 3:14 PM

    @Patrick J. O’Rourke: There is nothing worse than a bad trip. You can’t stop it once it starts.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 8:23 PM

    @Pheilum Shannon: I don’t think people getting PTSD and schizophrenia from a psychoactive substance makes a more peaceful world. If you need drugs to open your mind then you didn’t have much of a mind in the first place.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 9:40 AM

    People should do DMT

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:32 PM

    @Hello there friend: I’ve heard of people getting PTSD from smoking that. On the other hand, I’ve also heard good reports.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 1:43 PM

    @Bairéid Rísteard: DMT changed my life for the better. I was in a very dark place for many years, and then smoked DMT a few times. Whatever it did to me, it really showed me the beauty of life and helped me get out of that dark place.

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    Apr 24th 2017, 6:17 PM

    @Pheilum Shannon: it did the same for me though I wasn’t in a dark place at the time, I was just curious. It opened my eyes to the universe and has made me see the big picture. Amazing experience and one that will stay in your essence forever. If I had anxiety I’d definitely give it a go.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 10:21 AM

    If you look at all the tribes that are left in the jungles etc. They run round all day in the buff flinging spears and darts painting each other up and getting high as kites on their own made beer and potions and spark plugs. They always look in great form and live till they are at least 3 hundred years old. And we can’t get a tiny drop of LSD when the shit hits the fan in our life.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 10:33 AM

    Socialism doesn’t work.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:46 PM

    @Games Greatest: They also have the shortest life expectancies, highest rates of miscarriage and a broken leg can be enough to end their lives. A tribal lifestyle isn’t exactly bliss.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 1:33 PM

    @Jack Cassady: seems to in scandanavia. I would argue that if you have a strong man leader then you live in a dictatorship, not in a socialist society, ie: ussr, dknr, cuba, venezuela, etc. Life in Norway, Sweden and Finland seems just fine for its citizens

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 9:23 AM

    Nothing beats organic natural remedies.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 9:35 AM

    @Paul Culligan: but LSD is synthetic magic mushrooms would be a natural remedy

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 11:07 AM

    @Jamie: I never mentioned LSD.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 11:22 AM

    @Paul Culligan: Cancer beats organic natural remedies. That’s why we use chemo, radiation etc…

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:15 PM

    @Paul Culligan: Ah yes, nothing like a cup of chai tea with a spoonful of organic honey, to bring your tuberculosis back under control.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:23 PM

    @Paraic McDonagh: I find my morning cup of hot water, grated ginger and squeeze of lemon keeps my smallpox quiet

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:42 PM

    @Matty kinevan: Stupid remark. Cannabis kills various strains of Cancer. We only use Chemo and Radiation because natural products havn’t been tried first.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:50 PM

    @Paraic McDonagh: actually ‘green’ tea and citris fruits are the ones for TB. The curing of TB with or without natural remedies is a slow one, but no sugar and high protein foods also help immensely.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:51 PM

    @David: you see!! Told ya’.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 1:05 PM

    @Paul Culligan: I knew I was going wrong somewhere. Pity all the 100s and thousands of people who died a century ago didn’t know about the citrus tea without sugar trick.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 1:09 PM

    @Paul Culligan: Paul, any links to peer-reviewed, blind-trial data backing that up? Would be genuinely interested to read.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 1:24 PM

    @Paul Culligan: Various strains? There are over 200 “strains” Stop spreading dangerous misinformation. We have a name for effective alternative medicine, we call it medicine.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 10:53 PM

    @Paraic McDonagh: i can only speak for Ireland there. A century ago, citrus fruits and sugar were only available to the English gentry. They were too costly for the minions.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 11:23 PM

    @Matty kinevan: and there are approx 700 strains of cannabis. If further research was done, it could be possible to match the strain to the complaint. Dangerous misinformation? Lmao!

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    Apr 24th 2017, 3:13 AM

    @Paul Culligan: I meant over 200 strains of cancer, as per your previous comment. Match the strain to the complaint? What are you talking man. The various cannabis strains don’t have all different magical ingredients in them to be tailored to specific illnesses. The strains mainly entail different smells, tastes, yields, disease/bug/mould/stress resistance and flowering times. The active compounds in all the strains are basically the same, there’d just be variation in the proportions of the active compounds, thc cbd etc… You don’t know what you’re talking about horse. Pseudo science bs

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    Apr 24th 2017, 8:34 AM

    @Matty kinevan: So basically what your argument is, is that all of the people that purport to Cannabis curing their Cancer…are basically…..liars?

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    Apr 24th 2017, 11:07 AM

    @Paul Culligan: Some are, yes. I’m an empiricist so I base my opinions on evidence. Not doubting that weed can have some medical benefits, but it is not a magical cancer cure as you are claiming it to be. But hey maybe me and the entire field of oncology are wrong

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    Apr 24th 2017, 2:05 PM

    @Matty kinevan: I’m a bit of an empiricist too, based on the first hand testimony of the ‘magically cured’. You’re still advocating that they’re they’re telling untruths. Shameful.

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    Apr 24th 2017, 2:17 PM

    @Paul Culligan: First hand testimony is largely useless information. Do you believe all the people who say they were cured at lourdes? Or that a psychic healed their sore arse? Next you’ll be telling me how great homeopathy is.

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    Apr 24th 2017, 3:01 PM

    @Matty kinevan: ‘first hand info is useless’, Lol. Never heard as much bullshit in my life, tell that to the professionals. Calling the ‘cured’ liars….absolutely disgraceful. BMBL……and for that reason, I’m out.

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    Apr 24th 2017, 3:30 PM

    @Paul Culligan: If you’re quoting someone, you’re supposed to use the words they actually used. No talking to people like you. If your kids get very sick, bring them to the doctor if you want to save their lives okay? Good luck

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 11:10 AM

    LSD is grand if you’re in a good mental place, if you’re not, and I know this from experience, you have some horrible trips! Wouldn’t go next or near the stuff again personally. But wouldn’t tell anyone else not to, as long as they’re aware of the possible effects.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 11:34 AM

    @David: the trip depends on the person. Nasty person bad trip. Nice person nice trip. Speaking from experience. Seen lots of people having bad trips due to their negative life affecting the sub conscience thus .. bad trip. Never had a bad experience after countless trips acid mushrooms etc.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 11:51 AM

    @Games Greatest: that’s a load of shite!

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:05 PM

    @David: You see. That’s why you had bad trips. Your nasty attitude. Negativity spewing out of you.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:16 PM

    @Games Greatest: if you think my retorts to an idiotic Internet troll like you 40 accounts, are a true reflection of me as a person, you’re sadly mistaken.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:30 PM

    @David: oh stop FFS i seen you say that to countless people. It’s boring you child. Just look at each of your replys. Toxic. That’s why you had trips. Also you would of been surrounded with other toxic people. Hence the bad experience. Now go cheer up take a nice walk you horrid child.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:44 PM

    @Games Greatest: horrid child? Now who’s nasty? Go away and get a friend you pathetic waste of oxygen.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 12:05 PM

    Micro dosing is not the same as full on tripping

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 3:08 PM

    Turn on, Tune in, Drop out.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 11:54 AM

    Steve Jobs said it was one of his most significant experiences. As did the guy who invented either Betamax or VHS technology forget which but he said the whole thing came to him while tripping on this stuff. Don’t ask me. Any good idea I ever had was when sober and it was generally dependent on staying that way. But MDMA was originally developed and used as a marriage aid back in the Fifties. Not sure about LSD. Knew an oul hippie said he did a lot of it in the Seventies and he was still making his way back.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 1:55 PM

    @John O’Driscoll: the guys who helped crack the DNA code were off their boxes on LSD.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 3:19 PM

    @John O’Driscoll: and look at Jobs now. He’s pushing daisies. Mmm.. drugs are bad.

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    Apr 23rd 2017, 4:17 PM

    @EdmundOrlando: According to statistical based reports alcohol and heroin are the most damaging to the user and society..LSD is bottom.

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